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From [email protected] Sun Apr  5 01:28:08 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif From: Rich Thomson <[email protected]> Subject: RFD:  comp.windows.x.intrinsics Followup-To: news.groups Organization: UUNET Communications Services Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 18:09:20 GMT  [Please note that followups are directed to news.groups]  There is an increasing amount of traffic in the newsgroup comp.windows.x. It is becoming increasingly harder to filter information according to one's interests.  Many proposals have gone by before about splitting comp.windows.x.  This proposal does not address a generic splitting of comp.windows.x into several groups, but does propose the creation of a new group to handle questions and threads relating to the Xt toolkit, also known as the Intrinsics.  Proposed name:		comp.windows.x.intrinsics Proposed status:	unmoderated  Commentary is directed to news.groups.  After the sufficient period of time, this RFD will be replaced with a call for votes on the creation of the new group, provided no significant objections are offered during the discussion period.  						-- Rich --  	Repeal the personal income tax; vote Libertarian in 1992. Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson UUCP: ...!uunet!dsd.es.com!rthomson			Rich Thomson Internet: [email protected]	IRC: _Rich_		PEXt Programmer  From [email protected] Thu May  7 07:26:50 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2307 news.groups:50443 comp.windows.x:52877 comp.windows.x.motif:9527 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson <[email protected]> Subject: CFV:  comp.windows.x.intrinsics Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: ES Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 06:16:08 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 39  The call for discussion period has ended without significant objection. This is the first formal CALL FOR VOTES for creation of the newsgroup:  	 comp.windows.x.intrinsics		Unmoderated  The voting period will end on June 6th, 1992.  This call for votes and a mass vote acknowledgement will occur on May 18th and 25th.  To cast a YES vote for comp.windows.x.intrinsics:      Send a message with the word YES in the subject line (preferred)     or the body of the message to [email protected] (Rich Thomson) 	 To cast a NO vote for comp.windows.x.intrinsics:      Send a message with the word NO in the subject line (preferred)     or the body of the message to [email protected] (Rich Thomson) 	 =-=-=-=- DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  Posted votes will not be counted. -=-=-=-=  Proposed Charter:      The new group will not be moderated.      This newsgroup will be for discussion of the Xt Intrinsics, often     referred to as the "X Toolkit".  The Intrinsics is an object-     oriented system for creating user interface components in the X     Window System.  This includes, but is not limited to:      o	questions about the Intrinsics      o	questions about writing custom widgets      Currently there is a newsgroup for discussion of the Motif widget     set, a set of user-interface components built on top of the Xt     Intrinsics.  However, there is no specific place for discussing     the Athena widget set, the first widget set developed on top of     Xt.  It is expected that some questions will be of relevance to both     comp.windows.x.intrinsics and comp.windows.x.motif.  From [email protected] Sat May 23 13:06:11 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2378 news.groups:51590 comp.windows.x:53639 comp.windows.x.motif:9779 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson <[email protected]> Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.windows.x.intrinsics Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 16:58:33 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 155  This is the second formal CALL FOR VOTES and the first formal VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT for the creation of the newsgroup:  	 comp.windows.x.intrinsics		Unmoderated  The voting period will end on June 6th, 1992.  This call for votes and a mass vote acknowledgement will occur on May 18th and 25th.  To cast a YES vote for comp.windows.x.intrinsics:      Send a message with the word YES in the subject line (preferred)     or the body of the message to [email protected] (Rich Thomson) 	 To cast a NO vote for comp.windows.x.intrinsics:      Send a message with the word NO in the subject line (preferred)     or the body of the message to [email protected] (Rich Thomson) 	 =-=-=-=- DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  Posted votes will not be counted. -=-=-=-=  Proposed Charter:      The new group will not be moderated.      This newsgroup will be for discussion of the Xt Intrinsics, often     referred to as the "X Toolkit".  The Intrinsics is an object-     oriented system for creating user interface components in the X     Window System.  This includes, but is not limited to:      o	questions about the Intrinsics      o	questions about writing custom widgets      Currently there is a newsgroup for discussion of the Motif widget     set, a set of user-interface components built on top of the Xt     Intrinsics.  However, there is no specific place for discussing     the Athena widget set, the first widget set developed on top of     Xt.  It is expected that some questions will be of relevance to both     comp.windows.x.intrinsics and comp.windows.x.motif.  =-=-=-=- DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  Posted votes will not be counted. -=-=-=-=  Votes have been received from the following addresses:  [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] belanger%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] chrisp%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] cruse%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] jim%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] matwood%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] oler%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] swanson%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] visual.com!dbl%[email protected] westhawk!thp [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]  From [email protected] Wed Jun  3 09:54:22 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2397 news.groups:52039 comp.windows.x:53999 comp.windows.x.motif:9903 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson <[email protected]> Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.windows.x.intrinsics Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1992 19:33:08 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 221  This is the third and final formal CALL FOR VOTES and the second formal VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT for the creation of the newsgroup:  	 comp.windows.x.intrinsics		Unmoderated  The voting period will end on June 6th, 1992.  To cast a YES vote for comp.windows.x.intrinsics:      Send a message with the word YES in the subject line (preferred)     or the body of the message to [email protected] (Rich Thomson) 	 To cast a NO vote for comp.windows.x.intrinsics:      Send a message with the word NO in the subject line (preferred)     or the body of the message to [email protected] (Rich Thomson) 	 =-=-=-=- DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  Posted votes will not be counted. -=-=-=-=  Proposed Charter:      The new group will not be moderated.      This newsgroup will be for discussion of the Xt Intrinsics, often     referred to as the "X Toolkit".  The Intrinsics is an object-     oriented system for creating user interface components in the X     Window System.  This includes, but is not limited to:      o	questions about the Intrinsics      o	questions about writing custom widgets      Currently there is a newsgroup for discussion of the Motif widget     set, a set of user-interface components built on top of the Xt     Intrinsics.  However, there is no specific place for discussing     the Athena widget set, the first widget set developed on top of     Xt.  It is expected that some questions will be of relevance to both     comp.windows.x.intrinsics and comp.windows.x.motif.  =-=-=-=- DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  Posted votes will not be counted. -=-=-=-=  Votes have been received from the following addresses:  "David W. Schuler" <[email protected]> "Jonathan Creighton" <[email protected]> Adrian Howard <[email protected]> Andy Malis <[email protected]> Arne Asplem [email protected]> Bisogna pur ispirarsi a qualche modello! <[email protected]> Blair Zajac <[email protected]> Brett B. Doehr <[email protected]> Bruce Kilgore <[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris Handy [CONTRACTOR]) Danny Vanderryn <[email protected]> David Partain <[email protected]> David Raz <[email protected]> Francois Yergeau <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gerhard Eckel) Herman Verkade <[email protected]> Hulley W J <[email protected]> Ik Su Yoo <[email protected]> Izar Tarandach <[email protected]> James Hsieh [email protected]> Jamie Gritton <[email protected]> Jim Fournier <[email protected]> Jim Mattson <[email protected]> Jim Muth [email protected]> Johannes Sixt <[email protected]> John G Dobnick <[email protected]> John Morton <[email protected]> [email protected] Kate Blane <[email protected]> Markus Stumpf <[email protected]> [email protected] (Matt Cohen) Matthew Newman <[email protected]> Mehul Sanghvi <[email protected]> Mike Arras <[email protected]> Paul Weipeng Yan <[email protected]> Peter Ware <[email protected]> Rainer Klute <[email protected]> Robert Belanger [email protected]> Roland Kaltefleiter <[email protected]> Roy S. Rapoport <[email protected]> Rupen D. Sheth <[email protected]> [email protected] Sinclair Budd <[email protected]> Steve Cole <[email protected]> Steve Cole <[email protected]> [email protected] Ted Lemon <[email protected]> Ted Lemon <[email protected]> Tim Hagman (lbs) <[email protected]> Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]> Tony Wilson <[email protected]> Torbj|rn B{ckstr|m <[email protected]> Vic Ryan <[email protected]> [email protected] (Amy Chan x2941) [email protected] (Amy Chan x2941) [email protected] (Allen Hom) [email protected] (Alec Yin) [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt) [email protected] [email protected] (Thierry Besancon) [email protected] (Ruth White) [email protected] (H. David Bonnett) [email protected] (Grant Totten) [email protected] (Chris Richardson) [email protected] [email protected] (Tang Chee Kin) chrisp%[email protected] (Chris Pointon) [email protected] (Bob Craycroft x629) [email protected] (Cristy) [email protected] (Roger Reynolds) david d `zoo' zuhn <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Flanagan) [email protected] [email protected] (Dave Sill) [email protected] [email protected] (Donald H. Locker) [email protected] (David Mischel) [email protected] (George Drapeau) [email protected] (Ed Brill) [email protected] [email protected] (Clifford D. Morrison) [email protected] [email protected] (Eirikur Hjartarson) [email protected] (Tom Ekberg) [email protected] (David Van Beveren) eyckmans%[email protected] [email protected] (Joe Giampapa) [email protected] (David Boyle) [email protected] (Greg Hilton) [email protected] (Stephan Heilmayr) [email protected] (Martin Janzen) [email protected] [email protected] (Joe Hartley) [email protected] (J M Lake) [email protected] (Joe Coco) [email protected] (Joe Wang) [email protected] (John McCracken) [email protected] (John M. Blasik) [email protected] (John Gallant) [email protected] (Jordan Hayes) [email protected] (Jeff Francis) [email protected] (Kaleb Keithley) [email protected] (Kate Blane 9/4/90) [email protected] [email protected] (ASTS Ken Sall) [email protected] (luis fernandes) [email protected] (luis fernandes) [email protected] (Chris Larsen 8993) [email protected] (Larry W. Virden) [email protected] [email protected] (Marc Albert) [email protected] (Mark Levison) [email protected] (Resident.Alien) [email protected] (Mark Osbourne) [email protected] matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] (Todd Earles) [email protected] (Mark Polhamus) [email protected] (Alan Epstein) [email protected] (Mike Moore) mmartin%[email protected] [email protected] (Michael Moore) [email protected] (Steve Pietrowicz) [email protected] (Steve Pietrowicz) [email protected] (Skip Montanaro) nestler!rwu (Ruediger Wurth) [email protected] (Gustaf Neumann) [email protected] (Nuno Manuel Correia) [email protected] [email protected] (Ray Shea) [email protected] (Vinod Reddy) [email protected] (Jan-Olav Eide) oler%[email protected] (Ole Robert Hestvik) [email protected] [email protected] (Pat J. Pinchera) [email protected] (Prashanth Prakash) [email protected] [email protected] (Raphael Manfredi) [email protected] (S.Ramakrishnan) [email protected] [email protected] (Rich Hilliard) [email protected] [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] [email protected] (S Ramakrishnan) [email protected] (Ron Lipsius) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Siegurd Weber) [email protected] (Scott Barman) [email protected] (Scott Carpenter) [email protected] (Arthur Lim) [email protected] (Tim Wise) seufert!mauritiu (Peter Mauritius) [email protected] (Simon Leinen) [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Vern Staats) [email protected] (Steve Sandke) [email protected] (Mike_Strawbridge_x3852) [email protected] (Adarsh Pannu x3610) [email protected] (Jean-Philippe Martin-Flatin) [email protected] (Terry Suitor) [email protected] (Greg Holmberg) [email protected] (Tim Frost) [email protected] (Tom Kovar) [email protected] (Tom Kovar) [email protected] (Tom Albrecht) [email protected] (Kam C. Tsang) [email protected] (Kerry Kimbrough) visual.com!dbl%[email protected] (David B. Lewis) visual.com!dbl%[email protected] (David B. Lewis) [email protected] (Kyle Marvin) westhawk!thp (Timothy H Panton.) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (/usr/spool/mail/young) [email protected] (T.........) [email protected] (Zixiong WANG)  From [email protected] Thu Jun 11 14:30:50 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2416 news.groups:52360 comp.windows.x:54349 comp.windows.x.motif:10117 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson <[email protected]> Subject: RESULT: comp.windows.x.intrinsics passes 198: 21 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1992 22:57:18 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 261  The call for votes period has ended with a passing result for  	comp.windows.x.intrinsics	Unmoderated  There were 198 yes votes and 21 no votes out of a total of 219 votes. This meets the Usenet requirements of at least 100 more yes votes than no votes with at least 2/3 of the total vote being yes votes.  One vote was received after the official voting period ended and was discounted.  Where possible, I identified multiple votes from the same person to eliminate duplicate votes.  Most of the "NO" votes expressed concern that the newsgroup be gated into a mailing list, in a similar fashion to the xpert/comp.windows.x gateway. However, the proposed charter of the group did not include such a gateway and I personally don't have the time to devote to creating such a gateway.  Should someone volunteer, I'm sure many of those who voted "NO" would be grateful.  Proposed Charter:      The new group will not be moderated.      This newsgroup will be for discussion of the Xt Intrinsics, often     referred to as the "X Toolkit".  The Intrinsics is an object-     oriented system for creating user interface components in the X     Window System.  This includes, but is not limited to:      o	questions about the Intrinsics      o	questions about writing custom widgets      Currently there is a newsgroup for discussion of the Motif widget     set, a set of user-interface components built on top of the Xt     Intrinsics.  It is expected that some questions will be of     relevance to both comp.windows.x.intrinsics and     comp.windows.x.motif.  Votes were received from the following people as of Sunday, June 7, 1992:  YES votes: "David W. Schuler" <[email protected]> "Jonathan Creighton" <[email protected]> "Perry R. Ross" <[email protected]> "Robert Forsman" <[email protected]> Adrian Howard <[email protected]> Alvin Starr <[email protected]> Andy Malis <[email protected]> Arne Asplem [email protected]> Bill Taylor <[email protected]> Bisogna pur ispirarsi a qualche modello! <[email protected]> Blair Zajac <[email protected]> Brett B. Doehr <[email protected]> Bruce Kilgore <[email protected]> Christine Detig <[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris Handy [CONTRACTOR]) David Partain <[email protected]> David Raz <[email protected]> Francois Yergeau <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gerhard Eckel) Herman Verkade <[email protected]> Hulley W J <[email protected]> Izar Tarandach <[email protected]> James Hsieh [email protected]> Jamie Gritton <[email protected]> [email protected] Jim Fournier <[email protected]> Jim Mattson <[email protected]> Jim Muth [email protected]> Jimmy Gibson <[email protected]> Joachim Schrod <[email protected]> Johannes Sixt <[email protected]> John G Dobnick <[email protected]> John Morton <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Mani) Kate Blane <[email protected]> LZIEGLER%[email protected] Matthew Newman <[email protected]> Mehul Sanghvi <[email protected]> Mike Arras <[email protected]> Paul Weipeng Yan <[email protected]> Peter Ware <[email protected]> Philip Daniels <[email protected]> Rainer Klute <[email protected]> Robert Belanger [email protected]> Roland Kaltefleiter <[email protected]> Roy S. Rapoport <[email protected]> Rupen D. Sheth <[email protected]> [email protected] Sinclair Budd <[email protected]> Sonja Orlavski <[email protected]> Stefan Esser <[email protected]> Steve Cole <[email protected]> [email protected] Ted Lemon <[email protected]> Tim Hagman (lbs) <[email protected]> Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]> Tony Wilson <[email protected]> Torbj|rn B{ckstr|m <[email protected]> Vic Ryan <[email protected]> [email protected] (Amy Chan x2941) [email protected] (Allen Hom) [email protected] (Alec Yin) [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt) [email protected]kpc.com (Andy Doolittle) asherman%[email protected] (Aaron Sherman) [email protected] (Andreas Vogel) [email protected] (Thierry Besancon) [email protected] [email protected] (H. David Bonnett) butler%[email protected] (Michael Butler) [email protected] (Grant Totten) [email protected] (Chris Richardson) [email protected] [email protected] (Tang Chee Kin) chrisp%[email protected] (Chris Pointon) [email protected] (Jeff Cohen) [email protected] (Bob Craycroft x629) [email protected] (Roger Reynolds) [email protected] (Cullen Jennings) [email protected] (Curt Schroeder) [email protected] (Christopher) david d `zoo' zuhn <[email protected]> da[email protected] (David Flanagan) [email protected] [email protected] (Dave Sill) [email protected] (Brian Dealy - CSC) [email protected] [email protected] (Donald H. Locker) [email protected] (Dave Brooks) [email protected] (Michael Doel) [email protected] (George Drapeau) [email protected] (J. Daniel Smith) [email protected] (Ed Brill) [email protected] [email protected] (Clifford D. Morrison) [email protected] [email protected] (Eirikur Hjartarson) [email protected] (Tom Ekberg) [email protected] [email protected] (David Van Beveren) [email protected] (Emmett A. Cunningham) eyckmans%[email protected] [email protected] (Thomas Fettig) [email protected] (Joe Giampapa) [email protected] (David Boyle) [email protected] (Matthias Imhof) [email protected] (Greg Hilton) [email protected] (Sridhar Ramachandran) [email protected] (Harper Mann) [email protected] (Stephan Heilmayr) [email protected] (Martin Janzen) jct%[email protected] (Jim Thompson) [email protected] [email protected] (Joe Hartley) [email protected] (J M Lake) [email protected] (Joe Wang) [email protected] (John McCracken) [email protected] (John Gallant) [email protected] (Jordan Hayes) [email protected] (Jeff Francis) [email protected] (JIM PICKERING) [email protected] (Kate Blane 9/4/90) [email protected] [email protected] (ASTS Ken Sall) [email protected] (luis fernandes) [email protected] (W.R. Volz) [email protected] [email protected] (Sergey Lozhkin) [email protected] (Chris Larsen 8993) [email protected] (Larry W. Virden) [email protected] [email protected] (Mark Levison) [email protected] (Resident.Alien) [email protected] (Mark S. Bubien) [email protected] (Mark Osbourne) [email protected] matwood%[email protected] matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] (Todd Earles) [email protected] (John B. Melby) [email protected] (Mark Polhamus) [email protected] (Alan Epstein) [email protected] (Mike Moore) mmartin%[email protected] [email protected] (Michael Moore) [email protected] (Steve Pietrowicz) [email protected] (Skip Montanaro) nestler!rwu (Ruediger Wurth) [email protected] (Gustaf Neumann) [email protected] (Nuno Manuel Correia) [email protected] [email protected] (Ray Shea) [email protected] [email protected] (Vinod Reddy) [email protected] (Jan-Olav Eide) oler%[email protected] (Ole Robert Hestvik) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Prashanth Prakash) [email protected] [email protected] (Marc Quinton STNA 7SU p8046 BD24) [email protected] (Raphael Manfredi) [email protected] (S.Ramakrishnan) [email protected] [email protected] (Rich Hilliard) [email protected] [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] [email protected] (Ricardo Marek) [email protected] (Nate Rockwell) [email protected] (Ron Lipsius) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Siegurd Weber) [email protected] (Scott Barman) [email protected] (Arthur Lim) [email protected] (Tim Wise) seufert!mauritiu (Peter Mauritius) [email protected] (Simon Leinen) [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Vern Staats) [email protected] (Alan Steele) [email protected] (Steve "daffy" Hunt) [email protected] (Steve Sandke) [email protected] (Mike_Strawbridge_x3852) [email protected] (Adarsh Pannu x3610) [email protected] (Terry Suitor) [email protected] (Tim Frost) [email protected] (Tom Kovar) [email protected] (Tom Albrecht) [email protected] (Kam C. Tsang) [email protected] (Kyle Marvin) [email protected] (Wayne McCormick) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (/usr/spool/mail/young) [email protected] (T.........) [email protected] (Zixiong WANG)  NO votes: Danny Vanderryn <[email protected]> Ik Su Yoo <[email protected]> [email protected] Markus Stumpf <[email protected]> [email protected] (Matt Cohen) [email protected] [email protected] (Ruth White) [email protected] (Cristy) [email protected] (David Mischel) [email protected] (Joe Coco) [email protected] (John M. Blasik) [email protected] (Kaleb Keithley) [email protected] (Marc Albert) [email protected] (Kee Hinckley) [email protected] (Pat J. Pinchera) [email protected] (Scott Carpenter) [email protected] (Jean-Philippe Martin-Flatin) [email protected] (Greg Holmberg) [email protected] (Kerry Kimbrough) visual.com!dbl%[email protected] (David B. Lewis) westhawk!thp (Timothy H Panton.)  
 
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