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From [email protected] Tue Nov 10 15:44:44 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2901 news.groups:59661 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:2454 comp.dcom.lans.fddi:783 comp.dcom.lans.misc:905 comp.dcom.cell-relay:689 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.lans.novell Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Todd Booth) Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet Keywords: bridge, router, wellfleet, RFD Followup-To: news.groups Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Wellfleet Communications, Inc Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:50:55 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 114  This is a formal Request for Discussion on the creation of a new newsgroup called "comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet" (not moderated).  This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers may have  interest in the discussion about the new group; follow-up discussion will take place in "news.groups". Suggestions, comments or problems may also be emailed to me at <[email protected] or [email protected]>.  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION ----------------------  NEWSGROUP   comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet (not moderated)  PURPOSE   The newsgroup 'comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet' would be a forum for discussing    issues related to Wellfleet bridge and router systems hardware & software,   interoperability with other products, and system configuration.    It will NOT be a forum for forwarding sensitive information   as e-mail and individual contact are for this purpose.    It could be the best, and quickest way to exchange questions and   answers, hints and tips on optimization, have contacts between users   having common problems and maybe some common solutions.   RATIONALE    Very often Wellfleet users receiving news and having questions don't know   really where to post their questions in such a way that it could be   answered by some other Wellfleet users.    In the same way, people who could be able to answer the question are not   necessarily inspecting all articles where Wellfleet is mentioned, such a    newsgroup will usually permit better follow-ups for Wellfleet issues.   Users could discover lot of indirect Wellfleet matter accidentally in    comp.dcom.lans.{ethernet, fddi, misc...}.    Wellfleet User Groups exist in the U.S. and Europe.   Mailing lists have been going in the U.S and Europe for several years;    but this way of communicating is not particularly adequate for users   of multi-recipient systems, i.e., each message is sent to each registered   user, even on the same systems, moreover each user must ask to be   explicitely registered.    A newsgroup would permit all users of Wellfleet systems receiving the News   to receive only one copy of each message and to share it potentially   with all the users of the systems.    This newsgroup could be a prolongation of each annual Wellfleet User Groups   meetings, permitting not only to those (s)elected people having the chance   to take part to these interesting reunions but also to more common users,   students, researchers, etc... to share their experiences.    In the era of communication, newsgroups are the easiest way to build    bridges across oceans and permitting of people with common interests   to be part of an electronic community wherever they are located    in the world.   CONTENT    Miscellaneaous   - Wellfleet FAQ   - jobs available   - other events that concern Wellfleet systems and/or users     Hardware   - Wellfleet Nodes series   - Wellfleet Backbone Node series   - interfacing 3rd party products to Wellfleet systems    Software   - Public domain SNMP software for management of Wellfleet systems   - Software releases discussion and announcements   - Customization of network configurations for optimal performance    System   - Network integration   - Multi-vendor compatibility   - System tuning   - Benchmarking and performance measurement     System administration   - Security   - How to upgrade between releases   - Remote upgrades    This newsgroup will be in conjunction with the existing mailing lists   to allow users who do not receive News to submit and receive newsgroup   traffic and take part in the discussions.  NAME   comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet seems to be the name fitting the most adequately    the purpose.  NOT MODERATED   In order to have questions answered as fast as possible, this    newsgroup would not need to be moderated and indeed would most    probably be self-moderated.  NEWSGROUP CREATION   The discussion period will be from November 10th, 1992 to December 2nd, 1992.   Please post all discussion in   If a consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period,   a CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted at that time. The voting period   will last for 21 days.  Thanks for your interest ! --  Todd Booth | Systems Engineer | Wellfleet Communications, Inc | 310 445-8840  From [email protected] Mon Dec  7 18:13:23 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Todd Booth) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: CFV: comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet Followup-To: poster Date: 7 Dec 1992 17:46:21 -0500 Organization: Wellfleet Communications, Inc Lines: 51 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3030 news.groups:62598 comp.dcom.lans.misc:1025  Call For Votes  Proposed Newsgroup: comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet  Type: Unmoderated  Rationale: (discussed in RFD)  Charter: The newsgroup 'comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet' would be a 	forum for discussing issues related to Wellfleet bridge and 	router systems hardware & software, interoperability with other 	products, and system configuration.  Voting Period:  	From: the time this article is posted/circulated 	To:   23:59 GMT, Tuesday, January 5th, 1993  How to Vote: 	To vote on comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet, send your vote to 		[email protected] or [email protected]  	You must specify your vote as one of the following:  		I vote "yes" on comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet 		I vote "no"  on comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet  Voting Rules: 	One vote per person. If you vote more than once, only the *last* 	of those votes will count.  Therefore if you change your mind 	about the vote, you can send a new vote, which invalidates the 	old vote, as long as it is within the voting period.  	Ambiguous votes will be invalidated. 	Ambiguous votes contain neither YES nor NO, or contain both, or 	are conditional, such as "I vote ... if ..."  	Votes posted to any newsgroup will NOT be counted.  	According to the USENET rules, in order for the new group to be 	created, at least 2/3 of the votes must be "YES", and there must 	be at least 100 more "YES" votes than "NO" votes.  Ambiguous vote resolution: 	Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines or message body do 	not make clear the voter's intent, or whose vote clashes with the 	vote address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply 	address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for 	clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to 	their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be 	identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote 	tally.  From [email protected] Wed Jan  6 21:02:41 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Todd Booth) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet passes 122:14 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:35:26 -0500 Organization: Wellfleet Communications, Inc Lines: 192 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3092 news.groups:63959 comp.dcom.lans.misc:1101  Happy new year!  At the end of the voting period (midnight GMT, Tuesday, January 5th, 1993), 136 people had sent in their ballots in response to the CFV.  First let me say that this message has been posted to: 	news.announce.newgroups 	news.groups 	comp.dcom.lans.ethernet 	comp.dcom.lans.fddi 	comp.dcom.lans.misc 	comp.dcom.lans 	comp.dcom.cell-relay 	comp.dcom.lans.novell 	comp.protocols.tcp-ip 	Wellfleet email distribution list ([email protected])  The mailing list will remain, and those who prefer to receive by mail, can continue to do so.    Here are the results:  Summary of vote tally:  	yes:   122 	no:     14 	total: 136   Vote test 1: There were over 100 more valid yes votes than no.  Vote test 2: There were over 2/3 of the total (136) in favor.  There will be a five day waiting period during which the net will have a chance to correct any errors in the voter list or  the voting procedure.  After the waiting period and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, the newgroup will be created.  --todd booth   Wellfleet Communications, Inc. ; 310 445-8840 Systems Engineer in Los Angeles today Stockholm next month (still with WF, still [email protected])  ********  email addresses for those in favor of comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet:   Vote: From: yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Aaron Dailey) yes   "Alain FONTAINE (Post master - UCL)" <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Alfred E. Nothaft) yes   Andries Ruiter <[email protected]> yes   Andy Linton <[email protected]> yes   Andy Malis <[email protected]> yes   Armand Giraud <[email protected]> yes   Arne Langmo <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Art Weisenseel) yes   [email protected] yes   B.J.  10-Dec-1992 1357 <[email protected]> yes   b.watson%[email protected] yes   Barry Lynam <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Bob Fink) yes   rhott%[email protected] (Bob Hott - K31) yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] ("Charles Ganzhorn") yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Chris Walsh) yes   [email protected] (claude bowie) yes   Colin Cooper <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Curtis Abbott) yes   [email protected] yes   "D.W.Stevenson" <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Dan Romascanu) yes   [email protected] (Dave Carr) yes   Dave Geurs <[email protected]> yes   Dave Pokorney <[email protected]> yes   David Kuzminski <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (David LeVine) yes   [email protected] (Donald Carros ) yes   [email protected] yes   "Ekkehard Lang"  <[email protected]> yes   Eric Hunt <[email protected]> yes   Evan Gamblin <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (G. E. Boykin     x5522        ) yes   Gary Kunis <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Gary Skaggs) yes   Gavin Stone-Tolcher <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Gordon Rowell) yes   Greg Sawyers <[email protected]> yes   Hampton Watkins <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (hand,james c) yes   Hiroyasu Murakoshi <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Ichi Takumi) yes   Jack Allen Underwood <[email protected]> yes   Jason R. Pascucci <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Jim Barnes) yes   Jim O'Shea <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] yes   John Burgess <[email protected]> yes   John Curran <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (John Lekashman) yes   [email protected] (John Luke Mills) yes   [email protected] (Jonathan Blau) yes   [email protected] (Jude George) yes   Katy Kislitzin <[email protected]> yes   Ken Hays <[email protected]> yes   Ken Tobias <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (kent eitzmann ) yes   [email protected] (Kevin Ruddy) yes   Kirk Olsen <[email protected]> yes   Larry Rebarchik <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (M.Scheurer) yes   [email protected] (Marcel Koelewijn) yes   Marciano Pitargue <[email protected]> yes   "Marian Gawel, ESC Data Network Operations" <[email protected]> yes   Mark Garrett <[email protected]> yes   "Mark I. Williams" <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Martin Stromberg) yes   [email protected] (Marty Borden) yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS) yes   Michael A Wojcik <[email protected]> yes   Michael Quinn <[email protected]> yes   "Michael S. McMahon"  <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Michel Hendrick) yes   "Michelle R. Koblas" <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Mike Croke x5386 ) yes   Mike Scott <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Mike Tucker) yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Nicholas Jacobs) yes   [email protected] (Ola Hjollo) yes   Patrick Herlihy <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Paul Killion) yes   [email protected] (Peter Schow) yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Phil Royse) yes   ptrubey (Phil Trubey) yes   Philippe Debroux <[email protected]> yes   Philippe Francq <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Philippe Michel) yes   [email protected] (Philippe Moitroux) yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Randy Meyers) yes   [email protected] yes   Ritu Bansal <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Robert Craig) yes   "Robert S. Logan" <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Schorr Daniel) yes   [email protected] yes   [email protected] (Simha Karlin) yes   Stephen Sakamoto <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Steve Bauer) yes   Steve Elias <[email protected]> yes   "Steven Lendt - UNOnet Manager"  <[email protected]> yes   Terry Gong <[email protected]> yes   thomasb%[email protected] (Thomas Benjamin) yes   [email protected] (Thomas Kaiser) yes   Tim Pletcher <[email protected]> yes   Todd Booth <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] (Tom Johnson) yes   Tony Knaus <[email protected]> yes   [email protected] yes   T  [email protected], Inc. <[email protected]> yes   Val Freda <[email protected]> yes   Vesa Halkka <[email protected]> yes   cire "ya mon" eric <[email protected]>  ********  email addresses for those against comp.dcom.sys.wellfleet:   Vote: From: no    Adrian Miranda <[email protected]> no    Charles Shub <[email protected]> no    [email protected] (Craig Presnell) no    [email protected] (Ed McGuire) no    [email protected] (Gary Rima) no    [email protected] no    [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury) no    [email protected] (Gregory Gulik) no    Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]> no    [email protected] (Murray Nesbitt) no    [email protected] (Rens Troost) no    [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) no    "Roy Engehausen" <[email protected]> no    [email protected]  
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