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From [email protected] Wed Aug 31 12:47:11 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Daniel J. McCoy) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.graphics.raytracing Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.rendering.lightwave-3d Followup-To: news.groups Date: 30 Aug 1994 15:16:36 -0400 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Lines: 102 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Keywords: RFD Lightwave NewTek Rendering Newsgroup Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5548 news.groups:114435 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:31582 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc:1420 comp.graphics.raytracing:4390                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                    comp.graphics.rendering.lightwave-3d  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------  Group Name:     comp.graphics.rendering.lightwave-3d Status:         Unmoderated Summary:        Discussion of all aspects of Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling                 and rendering package from NewTek Inc. Distribution:   World Proposed by:    Daniel J. McCoy ([email protected])   This is a formal request for discussion on the creation of a new newsgroup that caters to NewTek's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling,  rendering and animation package.  The discussion period will last 21 days  provided no outstanding issues result that prevent the move for a CFV.   CHARTER -------  This unmoderated newsgroup proposed as comp.graphics.rendering.lightwave-3d will be used for the discussion of NewTek Inc's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling and rendering package.  Topics appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:  	* General questions and answers on using Lightwave 3D. 	* Product announcements relating to Lightwave 3D and third party           products that benefit Lightwave 3D. 	* ARexx macros to enhance Layout and Modeler usage. 	* Optimizing options to get the most out of Lightwave 3D. 	  As Lightwave 3D is scheduled to be released for Windows, WindowsNT and SGI platforms by the end of the year, discussion of primarily Amiga based topics should NOT be posted to this newsgroup but directed to an appropriate Amiga newsgroup.  The same should apply to Windows, WindowsNT and SGI related topics.   BACKGROUND ----------  In the past, Lightwave 3D was only distributed with the Video Toaster which limited it's use to those living in countries where NTSC was the video standard.  However, Lightwave 3D is now also available as a standalone package for ALL Amiga owners.  In addition, NewTek Inc.  announced at Siggraph '94 that Lightwave 3D will be ported to Windows, WindowsNT, and SGI platforms by the end of 1994.  Lightwave 3D is used by a great number of professionals and hobbyists for a wide variety of uses and projects.  TV shows such as Babylon 5, seaQuest and RoboCop are examples of where Lightwave 3D is used.   RATIONALE ---------  Currently, there is a mailing list dedicated to Lightwave 3D with a subscriber base of approximately 500 users with an average of 25-30 messages a day.  Since the release of the standalone version and the announcement at Siggraph, interest has grown and so has the mailing list. Due to subscriber responses, it may be appropriate for a new newsgroup to be created to take the place of this mailing list in an effort to expand the user base and information sharing on Lightwave 3D.  It has also been expressed by several subscribers that don't have Usenet newsgroup access that perhaps a mail gateway can be created for access to this newsgroup.  I am unable to provide such a service, however I would like to hear from anyone who can personally.  A new newsgroup of comp.graphics.rendering.lightwave-3d is more fitting to what Lightwave really is (or at least part of what Lightwave can do). Although Lightwave does allow for raytracing and could fall under comp.graphics.raytracing, comp.graphics.rendering.lightwave-3d was suggested by a member of [email protected]  It is hopeful that this new rendering hierarchy will pave the way for future new newsgroups catering to the other rendering packages.   CROSS POSTINGS --------------  This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.sys.amiga.graphics comp.sys.sgi.graphics comp.os.ms-windows.apps comp.graphics.raytracing  and the mailing list, [email protected]    Discussion will take place in the group "news.groups" for a period of 21 days.  If there are no outstanding issues, a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted, after which an independent third party will conduct the vote. --  Daniel J. McCoy                                                       // Internet : [email protected] or [email protected]      \X/ Portal   : Daniel J McCoy        BIX: dmccoy                       Amiga  From [email protected] Thu Sep 15 23:39:30 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Daniel J. McCoy) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.graphics.raytracing Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Sep 1994 23:16:50 -0400 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Lines: 115 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5639 news.groups:116238 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:32069 comp.graphics:61433 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:6828 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc:1761 comp.graphics.raytracing:4848  This is a second draft of the RFD now with a new proposed newsgroup name that appears to be accepted by quite a few discussion participants.  If all goes well, we can proceed with the CFV.  This time around, this post  should also be posted to comp.graphics, which was missed the first time around.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                                Second Post                     comp.graphics.packages.lightwave  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------  Group Name:     comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Status:         Unmoderated Summary:        Discussion of all aspects of Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling,                 rendering and animation package from NewTek Inc. Distribution:   World Proposed by:    Daniel J. McCoy ([email protected])   This is a formal request for discussion on the creation of a new newsgroup that caters to NewTek's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling,  rendering and animation package.  The discussion period will last 21 days  provided no outstanding issues result that prevent the move for a CFV.   CHARTER -------  This unmoderated newsgroup proposed as comp.graphics.packages.lightwave will be used for the discussion of NewTek Inc's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling and rendering package.  Topics appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:       * General questions and answers on using Lightwave 3D.      * Product announcements relating to Lightwave 3D and third party        products that benefit Lightwave 3D.      * Rexx macros to enhance Layout and Modeler usage.      * Optimizing options to get the most out of Lightwave 3D.  As Lightwave 3D is scheduled to be released for Windows, WindowsNT and SGI platforms by the end of the year, the following topics are examples of what is not appropriate to discuss in this proposed newsgroup:       * Platform specific discussions which should be directed to their        appropriate newsgroups.      * Lightwave oriented product advertising should be limited to brief        messages pointing to an e-mail address or phone number to get        further information.      * Advertising platform specific products should be directed to the        appropriate platform newsgroups.         BACKGROUND ----------  In the past, Lightwave 3D was only distributed with the Video Toaster which limited it's use to those living in countries where NTSC was the video standard.  However, Lightwave 3D is now also available as a standalone package for ALL Amiga owners.  In addition, NewTek Inc.  announced at Siggraph '94 that Lightwave 3D will be ported to Windows, WindowsNT, and SGI platforms by the end of 1994.  Lightwave 3D is used by a great number of professionals and hobbyists for a wide variety of uses and projects.  TV shows such as Babylon 5, seaQuest and RoboCop are examples of where Lightwave 3D is used.   RATIONALE ---------  Currently, there is a mailing list dedicated to Lightwave 3D with a subscriber base of approximately 500 users with an average of 25-30 messages a day.  Since the release of the standalone version and the announcement at Siggraph, interest has grown and so has the mailing list. Due to subscriber responses, it may be appropriate for a new newsgroup to be created to take the place of this mailing list in an effort to expand the user base and information sharing on Lightwave 3D.  It has also been expressed by several subscribers that don't have Usenet newsgroup access that perhaps a mail gateway can be created for access to this newsgroup.  I am unable to provide such a service, however I would like to hear from anyone who can personally.  This newsgroup will require a new hierarchy be created within comp.graphics that allows for a more structured growth for graphic package oriented newsgroups such as the proposed comp.graphic.packages.lightwave newsgroup. New newsgroups within comp.graphics.packages have already been posted in other RFDs.   CROSS POSTINGS --------------  This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.sys.amiga.graphics comp.graphics comp.sys.sgi.graphics comp.os.ms-windows.apps comp.graphics.raytracing  and the mailing list, [email protected]    Discussion will take place in the group "news.groups" for a period of 21 days.  If there are no outstanding issues, a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted, after which an independent third party will conduct the vote. --  Daniel J. McCoy                                                           // Internet : [email protected], [email protected]     Portal: Daniel J McCoy  \X/         or [email protected]           BIX: dmccoy         Amiga  From [email protected] Fri Oct 14 13:14:35 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.graphics.raytracing Subject: CFV: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Followup-To: poster Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:52:43 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Lines: 107 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 4 Nov 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay's vote-taking alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5775 news.groups:120481 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:32849 comp.graphics:62874 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:7198 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc:2539 comp.graphics.raytracing:5671                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)               unmoderated group comp.graphics.packages.lightwave  Newsgroups line: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave	NewTek's Lightwave3D and related topics.   Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 3 November 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Daniel J. McCoy <[email protected]>.   The vote-taker will post each CFV to the lightwave mailing list at [email protected] shortly after it is posted to news.announce.newsgroups. He will send an abridged copy of the RESULT posting (without the full list of voters) to the mailing list after voting ends; the full RESULTs will be posted to all the newsgroups where the CFV was posted.  CHARTER     This unmoderated newsgroup proposed as   comp.graphics.packages.lightwave will be used for the discussion of   NewTek Inc's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling and rendering package.  Topics   appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:       * General questions and answers on using Lightwave 3D.      * Product announcements relating to Lightwave 3D and third party        products that benefit Lightwave 3D.      * Rexx macros to enhance Layout and Modeler usage.      * Optimizing options to get the most out of Lightwave 3D.    As Lightwave 3D is scheduled to be released for Windows, WindowsNT and   SGI platforms by the end of the year, the following topics are examples   of what is not appropriate to discuss in this proposed newsgroup:       * Platform specific discussions which should be directed to their        appropriate newsgroups.      * Lightwave oriented product advertising should be limited to brief        messages pointing to an e-mail address or phone number to get        further information.      * Advertising platform specific products should be directed to the        appropriate platform newsgroups.    At this time, no gateway has been set up to but is desired so that those   on [email protected] that do not have usenet access can participate   in discussions on this new newsgroup.    RATIONALE     Currently, there is a mailing list dedicated to Lightwave 3D with a   subscriber base of approximately 500 users with an average of 25-30   messages a day.  Since the release of the standalone version and the   announcement at Siggraph that Lightwave 3D will be available for SGI   and Windows based systems, interest has grown and so has the mailing   list.  With the creation of this new newsgroup, the information   exchanging on Lightwave 3D and Lightwave oriented products can reach   a wider audience.  HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group name.  Give your name on the line that asks for it.  Place the word YES or NO between the brackets before the group name.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then mail the ballot to: [email protected]   Just "Replying" to this message should work, but double-check the address before sending. If your vote isn't sent to <[email protected]>, it won't be counted.   -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here:  Write "YES" or "NO" between the brackets: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]  comp.graphics.packages.lightwave -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-   Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received >from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives (including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available if there is a controversy concerning the vote.  From [email protected] Tue Oct 25 12:43:38 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.graphics.raytracing Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 24 Oct 1994 17:18:17 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Lines: 120 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 4 Nov 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay's vote-taking alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5822 news.groups:121544 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:33268 comp.graphics:63455 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:7364 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc:2783 comp.graphics.raytracing:6008                       LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)               unmoderated group comp.graphics.packages.lightwave  Newsgroups line: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave        NewTek's Lightwave3D and related topics.   Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 3 November 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Daniel J. McCoy <[email protected]>.   The vote-taker will post each CFV to the lightwave mailing list at [email protected] shortly after it is posted to news.announce.newsgroups. He will send an abridged copy of the RESULT posting (without the full list of voters) to the mailing list after voting ends; the full RESULTs will be posted to all the newsgroups where the CFV was posted.  CHARTER     This unmoderated newsgroup proposed as   comp.graphics.packages.lightwave will be used for the discussion of   NewTek Inc's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling and rendering package.  Topics   appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:       * General questions and answers on using Lightwave 3D.      * Product announcements relating to Lightwave 3D and third party        products that benefit Lightwave 3D.      * Rexx macros to enhance Layout and Modeler usage.      * Optimizing options to get the most out of Lightwave 3D.    As Lightwave 3D is scheduled to be released for Windows, WindowsNT and   SGI platforms by the end of the year, the following topics are examples   of what is not appropriate to discuss in this proposed newsgroup:       * Platform specific discussions which should be directed to their        appropriate newsgroups.      * Lightwave oriented product advertising should be limited to brief        messages pointing to an e-mail address or phone number to get        further information.      * Advertising platform specific products should be directed to the        appropriate platform newsgroups.    At this time, no gateway has been set up to but is desired so that those   on [email protected] that do not have usenet access can participate   in discussions on this new newsgroup.    RATIONALE     Currently, there is a mailing list dedicated to Lightwave 3D with a   subscriber base of approximately 500 users with an average of 25-30   messages a day.  Since the release of the standalone version and the   announcement at Siggraph that Lightwave 3D will be available for SGI   and Windows based systems, interest has grown and so has the mailing   list.  With the creation of this new newsgroup, the information   exchanging on Lightwave 3D and Lightwave oriented products can reach   a wider audience.  HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group name.  Give your name on the line that asks for it.  Place the word YES or NO between the brackets before the group name.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then mail the ballot to: [email protected]   Just "Replying" to this message should work, but double-check the address before sending. If your vote isn't sent to <[email protected]>, it won't be counted.   -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here:  Write "YES" or "NO" between the brackets: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]  comp.graphics.packages.lightwave -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-   Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received >from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives (including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available if there is a controversy concerning the vote.   BOUNCES =======  The following people have submitted valid votes to the voting address, but my EMail acknowledgement letter to them bounced. They do not need to revote.  comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Bounce List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                            John Pimentel [email protected]                                    Arthur M. Palmer  From [email protected] Tue Nov  8 18:17:15 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.graphics.raytracing Subject: RESULT: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave 180:28 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Nov 1994 13:20:39 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Lines: 284 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5926 news.groups:122735 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:33800 comp.graphics:64254 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:7583 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc:3178 comp.graphics.raytracing:6565  				RESULT    unmoderated group comp.graphics.packages.lightwave passes 180:28  There were 180 YES votes and 28 NO votes, for a total of 208 valid votes.  There were 2 abstains and 2 invalid ballots.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.   There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.   Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 3 November 1994.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Vote-taker's address:		[email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Group proponent's address:	[email protected] (Daniel J. McCoy)   Newsgroups line: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave        NewTek's Lightwave3D and related topics.   CHARTER (culled from the Call for Votes)     This unmoderated newsgroup proposed as   comp.graphics.packages.lightwave will be used for the discussion of   NewTek Inc's Lightwave 3D, a 3D modeling and rendering package.  Topics   appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:       * General questions and answers on using Lightwave 3D.      * Product announcements relating to Lightwave 3D and third party        products that benefit Lightwave 3D.      * Rexx macros to enhance Layout and Modeler usage.      * Optimizing options to get the most out of Lightwave 3D.    As Lightwave 3D is scheduled to be released for Windows, WindowsNT and   SGI platforms by the end of the year, the following topics are examples   of what is not appropriate to discuss in this proposed newsgroup:       * Platform specific discussions which should be directed to their        appropriate newsgroups.      * Lightwave oriented product advertising should be limited to brief        messages pointing to an e-mail address or phone number to get        further information.      * Advertising platform specific products should be directed to the        appropriate platform newsgroups.    At this time, no gateway has been set up to but is desired so that those   on [email protected] that do not have usenet access can participate   in discussions on this new newsgroup.   comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                           MALIK  HAMMED MAHMOUD [email protected]                                    Dale Schofield [email protected]                                             Alan Bair [email protected]                                       Earl C. Terwilliger [email protected]                                              Kiss Sandor [email protected]                                            Allen Wittenauer [email protected]                                                 Samuel Crider [email protected]                                   Baron K. Fujimoto [email protected]                                                       Andy Forest ArissR%[email protected]                           Ariss, R A (Rushdi) [email protected]                                              Victor Gibbs [email protected]                                 J. Wesley Baker [email protected]                                           Bryan J. Blevins [email protected]                                       JEREMY SMEDLEY [email protected]                                        Benn Dunnington [email protected]                                       WILLIAM K FORTIN [email protected]                                               Bill Nissley [email protected]                                         Bjorn-Kare Nilssen [email protected]                                                  Kevin Bjorke [email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison [email protected]                                      Blair Zajac [email protected]                                             Berend Ozceri [email protected]                                        Bob Lindabury [email protected]                         Robert Mueller, Lightspeed Design [email protected]                                            Brad D. Hay [email protected]                                                   Alex Bratton [email protected]                                               Brian C. Berg [email protected]                                           Christian Graham [email protected]                                      William Canning [email protected]                                     Vicky Staubly [email protected]                              Chuck Brotherton [email protected]                                        Charles Congdon  [email protected]                                            Colin A. Gould [email protected]                                         Chuck Hacala [email protected]                                            Wendy Charlton [email protected]                                       Chris Blanos [email protected]                          Chris McNeilly [email protected]                                    Christopher D. Kane [email protected]                                        Gareth Edwards [email protected]                             Matthew Copeland [email protected]                                           James Crawford [email protected]                                               Chris Short  [email protected]                                             carl e snook  [email protected]                                                 Chris Hushour [email protected]                                                   Peter Campbell [email protected]                                     Daen Campbell [email protected]                                             David Oseas [email protected]                                      Dave Barnard [email protected]                                             David Blevins [email protected]                             Francisco X DeJesus [email protected]                            Derek Glidden <[email protected]> [email protected]                                            David Griffiths [email protected]                                             Daniel J. McCoy [email protected]                             David K. Martin - [email protected] [email protected]                                   Rowan Crawford [email protected]                                    Donald Smith [email protected]                                             Ed Doyle [email protected]                                                  David Schachter [email protected]                                    Eric Brown [email protected]                                             Eric J. Donaldson [email protected]                                                 Erik Flom [email protected]                                       Eric A. Quiroz [email protected]                                         Eric Case [email protected]                               Edward S. White [email protected]                                       Erwin Zwart [email protected]                                         Fred E. Hayes [email protected]              Frank Schultz ([email protected]) [email protected]                                           Karl Frederick [email protected]                       Fredie J. Layberger  [email protected]                                        ENRIQUE A. GAMEZ [email protected]                                             Gita Lal [email protected]                                         Glenn M. Lewis [email protected]                                            Gwynn Reddick [email protected]                                                   Gunnar Norum [email protected]                                           Adam Chrystie [email protected]                                        Bob Hassinger [email protected]                                          Henning Holtschneider [email protected]                                                Steve Hollasch [email protected]                                                 Ron Huebner [email protected]                                Hastings UFO Society [email protected]                                                Chris Hurtt [email protected]                                     Ian Wellock [email protected]                                               Ingimar Robertsson [email protected]                                            Darren Metcalfe [email protected]                                                  James Brooks [email protected]                                                    John B. Ferraris [email protected]                         J.D. Almand DOAS Telcom [email protected]                                                 J.D. Falk [email protected]                                             J. Eric Chard [email protected]                                              Jerry Hudgins [email protected]                                                 James G. Jones [email protected]                                            Jeffrey Goldman [email protected]                                                    Jeff Howard [email protected]                                                  Angel Freire [email protected]                                            John Pimentel [email protected]                                                    Jim Gorczyca [email protected]                                                    Jeff Walkup [email protected]                                    Cyrus J. Kalbrener [email protected]                                             Mark Kaye [email protected]                                     Alan L.M. Buxey [email protected]                                                Dave Thomas [email protected]                                       Patrick M. Keenan [email protected]                                                     Kevin Bagley [email protected]                                              Kevin Lynn [email protected]                                            Steve Koren [email protected]                                             Kevin Struckman [email protected]                                                Kjetil Vatne [email protected]                                        Martin Schr"oder [email protected]                                   Rodney J. Lambert [email protected]                                               M.J.Lashley [email protected]                                Lowell Lindenbach [email protected]                           Luke H, ("Pat") Montgomery, CompVid [email protected]                                                   Marc Delsoin [email protected]                                          Marcel E. Valcarce [email protected]                                             Mark Moraes [email protected]                                           Mark Thompson [email protected]                                       Mark Prenter [email protected]                                          Martin Hunt [email protected]                                   Matthew Skala [email protected]                                                  Michael Comet [email protected]                                         Robert Metzger [email protected]                                          Michael Powell [email protected]                                    Michael Wolf [email protected]                                   Jim Quaschnick [email protected]                                               Michael Day [email protected]                                         Mike Jiang [email protected]                                                Monte K. Ohrt [email protected]                                             Morten Johnsen [email protected]                                  MODESTO SEVILLA [email protected]                                            Michael Sattler [email protected]                                            Maxim Savic [email protected]                             Mark Welch <[email protected]> [email protected]                                           Eric Cosky [email protected]                                           Nick Airdo [email protected]                                        Bruce Nash [email protected]                                                   Neil Taneja [email protected]                                           Nick C. Fotis [email protected]                                          Kristen Thorsen [email protected]                                                 Nick Waterman [email protected]                                       Richard Norman [email protected]                                              Stephen Nevins [email protected]                                       Terrance Onsager [email protected]                                             Ottmar Roehrig [email protected]                                                David Oxley [email protected]                                    Arthur M. Palmer [email protected]                                              Per Jacobsen [email protected]                                            Petri Nordlund [email protected]                        Georg Pietrek [email protected]                                                  Kees Pronk [email protected]                                          Philip D. Thorn [email protected]                                   Jason E. Linhart [email protected]                                                 Robert Coates [email protected]                                   Rich Koster [email protected]                                                Richard Miller [email protected]                                             Robin Vermaat [email protected]                                                 Robert Ribar [email protected]                                           Roger Andersson [email protected]                                                J. 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West [email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan [email protected]                                                  Linda Hill [email protected]                                              Robert Thona [email protected]                                           Marc Moorcroft [email protected]                                               James C. McCabe [email protected]                                   Nikola Vukovljak [email protected]                                                  M. Otto [email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer [email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron [email protected]        Blaine Fontaine Hoober-Bloob Wangus McNutt [email protected]                                                Steve Bonine [email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown [email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams  Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                               [email protected]                                                 M Mike Taksar   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                               Andy M. Kar    ! No ballot [email protected]                                                Ron Cleaveland    ! No vote statement in message  
 
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