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From [email protected] Fri Nov 13 07:59:16 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos Path: uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jim Meehan) Subject: RFD: comp.lang.dylan Followup-To: news.groups Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: digital Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:13:10 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 41 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2952 news.groups:60365 comp.object:8678 comp.lang.scheme:5703 comp.lang.lisp:8461 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:1852 comp.lang.c++:33091 comp.lang.misc:12244 comp.lang.smalltalk:5696 comp.lang.functional:2365 comp.lang.clos:1629  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION ----------------------  NAME: 	comp.lang.dylan  STATUS: 	unmoderated  CHARTER: 	For discussion of the Dylan language. The newsgroup would be 	gatewayed with the mailing list [email protected]  COMMENTS: Dylan(TM) is a new object-oriented language, described in a book published by Apple Computer in April 1992.  Many people have expressed interest in the language since then, and prototype implementations are now appearing.  In September, Apple created four public mailing lists for discussions  of Dylan; the one called info-dylan is used for discussing any and  all aspects of the language.  In just over a month, the volume of  mail on info-dylan has reached the point where a newsgroup would  be more useful than a mailing list; indeed, some subscribers have  already removed their names from the list because of the high volume.   Apple will maintain a gateway with the mailing list so that current  subcribers to info-dylan who lack newsgroup access will still be  able to participate in the discussions.   DISCUSSION: Comments about this proposal should be sent to news.groups.  SCHEDULE: The discussion period will end December 4, 1992.  If there is a consensus at  that time, a Call For Votes will be posted.  [[ This is the first time this proposal has been "officially" brought up.     We're sorry for any confusion a prior call for votes may have     caused some people.  Jim did not realise his posting had not     really gone to news.announce.newgroups because the group was     not marked moderated at his site.  -- tale ]]  From [email protected] Sun Nov 15 15:56:17 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos Path: uunet!ornl!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!news.cs.indiana.edu!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!boulder!cambridge.apple.com!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!convex!uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jim Meehan) Subject: RFD: comp.lang.dylan Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Lines: 41 Sender: news Organization: digital Distribution: co Date: 13 Nov 92 11:13:10 GMT Approved: news X-Note1: mail msgid was <[email protected]> X-Note2: message-id generated by recnews Lines: 41 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2956 news.groups:60711 comp.object:8692 comp.lang.scheme:5717 comp.lang.lisp:8472 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:1864 comp.lang.c++:33198 comp.lang.misc:12297 comp.lang.smalltalk:5710 comp.lang.functional:2370 comp.lang.clos:1632  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION ----------------------  NAME: 	comp.lang.dylan  STATUS: 	unmoderated  CHARTER: 	For discussion of the Dylan language. The newsgroup would be 	gatewayed with the mailing list [email protected]  COMMENTS: Dylan(TM) is a new object-oriented language, described in a book published by Apple Computer in April 1992.  Many people have expressed interest in the language since then, and prototype implementations are now appearing.  In September, Apple created four public mailing lists for discussions  of Dylan; the one called info-dylan is used for discussing any and  all aspects of the language.  In just over a month, the volume of  mail on info-dylan has reached the point where a newsgroup would  be more useful than a mailing list; indeed, some subscribers have  already removed their names from the list because of the high volume.   Apple will maintain a gateway with the mailing list so that current  subcribers to info-dylan who lack newsgroup access will still be  able to participate in the discussions.   DISCUSSION: Comments about this proposal should be sent to news.groups.  SCHEDULE: The discussion period will end December 4, 1992.  If there is a consensus at  that time, a Call For Votes will be posted.  [[ This is the first time this proposal has been "officially" brought up.     We're sorry for any confusion a prior call for votes may have     caused some people.  Jim did not realise his posting had not     really gone to news.announce.newgroups because the group was     not marked moderated at his site.  -- tale ]]  From [email protected] Tue Nov 17 14:52:49 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos Path: uunet!ornl!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!news.cs.indiana.edu!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!boulder!cambridge.apple.com!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!convex!uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jim Meehan) Subject: RFD: comp.lang.dylan Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Lines: 41 Sender: news Organization: digital Distribution: co Date: 13 Nov 92 11:13:10 GMT Approved: news X-Note1: mail msgid was <[email protected]> X-Note2: message-id generated by recnews Lines: 41 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2956 news.groups:60711 comp.object:8692 comp.lang.scheme:5717 comp.lang.lisp:8472 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:1864 comp.lang.c++:33198 comp.lang.misc:12297 comp.lang.smalltalk:5710 comp.lang.functional:2370 comp.lang.clos:1632  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION ----------------------  NAME: 	comp.lang.dylan  STATUS: 	unmoderated  CHARTER: 	For discussion of the Dylan language. The newsgroup would be 	gatewayed with the mailing list [email protected]  COMMENTS: Dylan(TM) is a new object-oriented language, described in a book published by Apple Computer in April 1992.  Many people have expressed interest in the language since then, and prototype implementations are now appearing.  In September, Apple created four public mailing lists for discussions  of Dylan; the one called info-dylan is used for discussing any and  all aspects of the language.  In just over a month, the volume of  mail on info-dylan has reached the point where a newsgroup would  be more useful than a mailing list; indeed, some subscribers have  already removed their names from the list because of the high volume.   Apple will maintain a gateway with the mailing list so that current  subcribers to info-dylan who lack newsgroup access will still be  able to participate in the discussions.   DISCUSSION: Comments about this proposal should be sent to news.groups.  SCHEDULE: The discussion period will end December 4, 1992.  If there is a consensus at  that time, a Call For Votes will be posted.  [[ This is the first time this proposal has been "officially" brought up.     We're sorry for any confusion a prior call for votes may have     caused some people.  Jim did not realise his posting had not     really gone to news.announce.newgroups because the group was     not marked moderated at his site.  -- tale ]]  From [email protected] Fri Dec  4 21:32:28 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jim Meehan) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos Subject: CFV: comp.lang.dylan Followup-To: poster Date: 4 Dec 1992 21:13:00 -0500 Organization: digital Lines: 46 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3026 news.groups:62464 comp.object:8884 comp.lang.scheme:5827 comp.lang.lisp:8607 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:2059 comp.lang.c++:34367 comp.lang.misc:12592 comp.lang.smalltalk:5862 comp.lang.functional:2424 comp.lang.clos:1655  CALL FOR VOTES --------------  NAME: 	comp.lang.dylan  STATUS: 	unmoderated  CHARTER: 	For discussion of the Dylan language. The newsgroup would be 	gatewayed with the mailing list [email protected]  COMMENTS: Dylan(TM) is a new object-oriented language, described in a book published by Apple Computer in April 1992.  Many people have expressed interest in the language since then, and prototype implementations are now appearing.  In September, Apple created four public mailing lists for discussions of Dylan; the one called info-dylan is used for discussing any and all aspects of the language.  In just over a month, the volume of mail on info-dylan has reached the point where a newsgroup would be more useful than a mailing list; indeed, some subscribers have already removed their names from the list because of the high volume.  Apple will maintain a gateway with the mailing list so that current subcribers to info-dylan who lack newsgroup access will still be able to participate in the discussions.  NOTE:   There was a previous Call For Votes on this newsgroup, but          it wasn't valid, and all those votes have been discarded, so          even if you voted before, you need to vote again.    HOW TO VOTE: 	All votes should be mailed to [email protected]  	To vote in favor, use "comp.lang.dylan YES" as the Subject. 	To vote against, use "comp.lang.dylan NO" as the Subject. 	 	(These are only suggestions. I'll actually read the messages.)   SCHEDULE: 	The voting period will end at 23:59 GMT, December 30, 1992.  --Jim  From [email protected] Mon Dec  7 13:22:26 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos Path: uunet!ornl!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!news.cs.indiana.edu!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!boulder!cambridge.apple.com!news.cambridge.apple.com!news.media.mit.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jim Meehan) Subject: CFV: comp.lang.dylan Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Lines: 46 Sender: news Nntp-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Organization: digital Distribution: co Date: 5 Dec 92 02:13:00 GMT Approved: news X-Note1: mail msgid was <[email protected]> X-Note2: message-id generated by recnews Lines: 46 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3028 news.groups:62490 comp.object:8889 comp.lang.scheme:5828 comp.lang.lisp:8608 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:2060 comp.lang.c++:34387 comp.lang.misc:12596 comp.lang.smalltalk:5864 comp.lang.functional:2425 comp.lang.clos:1656  CALL FOR VOTES --------------  NAME: 	comp.lang.dylan  STATUS: 	unmoderated  CHARTER: 	For discussion of the Dylan language. The newsgroup would be 	gatewayed with the mailing list [email protected]  COMMENTS: Dylan(TM) is a new object-oriented language, described in a book published by Apple Computer in April 1992.  Many people have expressed interest in the language since then, and prototype implementations are now appearing.  In September, Apple created four public mailing lists for discussions of Dylan; the one called info-dylan is used for discussing any and all aspects of the language.  In just over a month, the volume of mail on info-dylan has reached the point where a newsgroup would be more useful than a mailing list; indeed, some subscribers have already removed their names from the list because of the high volume.  Apple will maintain a gateway with the mailing list so that current subcribers to info-dylan who lack newsgroup access will still be able to participate in the discussions.  NOTE:   There was a previous Call For Votes on this newsgroup, but          it wasn't valid, and all those votes have been discarded, so          even if you voted before, you need to vote again.    HOW TO VOTE: 	All votes should be mailed to [email protected]  	To vote in favor, use "comp.lang.dylan YES" as the Subject. 	To vote against, use "comp.lang.dylan NO" as the Subject. 	 	(These are only suggestions. I'll actually read the messages.)   SCHEDULE: 	The voting period will end at 23:59 GMT, December 30, 1992.  --Jim  From [email protected] Wed Jan  6 21:02:50 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jim Meehan) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.dylan passes 349:11 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:35:33 -0500 Organization: digital Lines: 368 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3093 news.groups:63960 comp.object:9184 comp.lang.scheme:5998 comp.lang.lisp:8780 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:2214 comp.lang.c++:35666 comp.lang.misc:12708 comp.lang.smalltalk:6063 comp.lang.functional:2490 comp.lang.clos:1689  The final vote on comp.lang.dylan is 349 in favor, 11 opposed.  Opposed:  [email protected] (Andrew Finkenstadt) [email protected] (Dave Carr) Charles Shub <[email protected]> "Eric J. Olson" <[email protected]> Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]> [email protected] (Marco Antoniotti) Mark Verber <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Bill Owens) [email protected] (Murray Nesbitt) Scott Draves <[email protected]>   In favor:  [email protected] [email protected] (Tim Dierks, software saboteur) Alexander Shendi <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dennis Allison) [email protected] (Russell G. Almond) [email protected] (Andrew LM Shalit) [email protected] (Amit J. Patel) amy%[email protected] (Anders Myren) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Paul Ashdown) [email protected] (b77201020) [email protected] (Stefan Bamberger) [email protected] (jwahar r. bammi) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Bob Congdon) [email protected] [email protected] Bengt Larsson <[email protected]> bernhard pfahringer <[email protected]> [email protected] (George Beshers) [email protected] (Brian Harvey) [email protected] (Robert Hutchison) Bill Campbell <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bill St. Clair) [email protected] (Bill Martin) [email protected] (Bill Walburg) B.J.  07-Dec-1992 0951 <[email protected]> [email protected] (Brent McPherson) Bob Jackson <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob McQueer) [email protected] (Bob Erickson) [email protected] (Tom Bonura) [email protected] (Ed Hill) [email protected] (Bart Botma) [email protected] [email protected] (Brad Yearwood) [email protected] (Brent W. 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