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From [email protected] Fri Aug  4 16:48:37 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jon Orwant) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: RFD: comp.lang.perl.tk Followup-To: news.groups Date: 4 Aug 1995 20:48:33 -0000 Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 104 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.perl.tk Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7269 news.groups:162812 comp.lang.perl.misc:2986  		     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) 		 unmoderated group comp.lang.perl.tk  Proposer: Jon Orwant <[email protected]>  This is a formal request for discussion on the creation of comp.lang.perl.tk, an unmoderated USENET newsgroup.  This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation. This RFD is being posted to the following relevant newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.perl.misc ...and to the mailing list [email protected]  Discussion will take place in news.groups ONLY.  Please post follow-ups to news.groups only.  This is not a call for votes (CFV).  Please do not vote now.  			      RATIONALE  Perl/Tk (also called, in various incarnations, "TkPerl", "pTk" and "nTk") is an extension for the Perl programming language that enables programmers to develop X applications.  It's popular.  There's a high-volume mailing list devoted to Perl/Tk ([email protected]); the suggestion for this newsgroup arose from that list.  There are probably many people who are interested in Perl/Tk, but have never heard of the mailing list, or are dissuaded from joining because of the message volume.  There are probably many people who are only casually interested in Perl/Tk, and would like to be able to skim a few weeks worth of messages.  There are probably many people who program in Perl, but don't realize that Perl/Tk exists.  Anticipated objection #1: "My site doesn't have USENET. If the discussions migrate there, 	I'll miss out."  Nope!  There will be a news-to-mail gateway courtesy of Ivan Judson ([email protected]) and there will be a hypermail gateway at 			http://pubweb.bnl.gov/~ptk/ courtesy of Tom Schlagel ([email protected]) and Alan Stange.  Both the news-to-mail gateway and the hypermail gateway will be ready when/if comp.lang.perl.tk is open for business.   Anticipated objection #2: "Hey! Perl/Tk is only in a BETA release. It doesn't merit its own newsgroup."  Well, true, it is beta.  But it's still used by a lot of people. And comp.lang.perl.tk need not be synonymous with the Perl/Tk package, but rather "using X from Perl via Tk."   Anticipated objection #3: "I don't like the name.  It shouldn't be comp.lang.perl.tk, but comp.lang.perl.modules.tk, or comp.lang.perl.modules-tk."  This is an appropriate topic for the Discussion that is being Requested.  A rough poll indicates that most people are happy with the comp.lang.perl.tk name.  While we wouldn't want *every* module to occupy its own newsgroup, a few of the largest modules merit newsgrouphood.  If you don't like the name comp.lang.perl.tk, you should vote AGAINST the proposal when the Call for Votes (CFV) occurs in three weeks.   CHARTER: comp.lang.perl.tk  comp.lang.perl.tk will serve as a forum for:  o	questions/answers/discussion about Perl/Tk o	getting/installing/porting Perl/Tk o	development of applications in Perl/Tk o	development of Perl/Tk itself  as well any other topic related to "using X from Perl via Tk." The newsgroup is NOT for discussion about Tcl, except as it relates to Tk and/or X.  Novice questions, code snippets, etc. are encouraged.   PROCEDURE  After a discussion period of 21 days, if there are no overwhelming objections to the formation of comp.lang.perl.tk, a CFV (Call For Votes) will be posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be as outlined in the Guidelines (a minimum of 21 and not more than 31 days).  If the vote passes, the group will be created.  A passing vote requires a 2/3 majority, and at least 100 more "YES" votes than "NO" votes.  Voting procedures will be documented in the CFV, and the vote will be conducted by a neutral third party.  Further details on the Guidelines and the process by which this newsgroup proposal is being conducted are available in the news.newgroups FAQ archive (via anonymous FTP to ftp://rtfm.mit.edu).  From [email protected] Tue Sep  5 15:33:48 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jan Isley) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: CFV: comp.lang.perl.tk Followup-To: poster Date: 5 Sep 1995 19:33:45 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 93 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Sep 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Jan Isley) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.perl.tk Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7434 news.groups:166836 comp.lang.perl.misc:5537                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                  unmoderated group comp.lang.perl.tk  Newsgroups line: comp.lang.perl.tk       Using Tk (and X) from Perl.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Sep 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group contact Jon Orwant <[email protected]>.  RATIONALE (from the proponent):  Perl/Tk (also called, in various incarnations, "pTk" and "nTk") is an extension for the Perl programming language that enables programmers to develop X applications.  It's popular.  There's a high-volume mailing list devoted to Perl/Tk ([email protected]); the suggestion for this newsgroup arose from that list.  There are probably many people who are interested in Perl/Tk, but have never heard of the mailing list, or are dissuaded from joining because of the message volume.  There are probably many people who are only casually interested in Perl/Tk, and would like to be able to skim a few weeks worth of messages.  There are probably many people who program in Perl, but don't realize that Perl/Tk exists.  CHARTER: comp.lang.perl.tk  This newsgroup will serve as a forum for:  o       questions/answers/discussion about Perl/Tk o       getting/installing/porting Perl/Tk o       development of applications in Perl/Tk o       development of Perl/Tk itself  as well any other topic related to "using X from Perl via Tk." The newsgroup is NOT for discussion about Tcl, except as it relates to Tk and/or X.  Novice questions, code snippets, etc. are encouraged.  END CHARTER.  DISTRIBUTION:  This CFV will also be posted to the mailing list [email protected]  HOW TO VOTE:  You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:        [email protected]  Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:        I vote YES on comp.lang.perl.tk       I vote NO on comp.lang.perl.tk  You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count.  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Jan Isley <[email protected]> votes to: <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 17:52:51 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.perl.tk Followup-To: poster Date: 12 Sep 1995 21:52:45 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 114 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Sep 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.perl.tk Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7511 news.groups:167332 comp.lang.perl.misc:6114                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                  unmoderated group comp.lang.perl.tk  Newsgroups line: comp.lang.perl.tk	Using Tk (and X) from Perl.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Sep 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Jon Orwant <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE:  Perl/Tk (also called, in various incarnations, "pTk" and "nTk") is an extension for the Perl programming language that enables programmers to develop X applications.  It's popular.  There's a high-volume mailing list devoted to Perl/Tk ([email protected]); the suggestion for this newsgroup arose from that list.  There are probably many people who are interested in Perl/Tk, but have never heard of the mailing list, or are dissuaded from joining because of the message volume.  There are probably many people who are only casually interested in Perl/Tk, and would like to be able to skim a few weeks worth of messages.  There are probably many people who program in Perl, but don't realize that Perl/Tk exists.  CHARTER: comp.lang.perl.tk  This newsgroup will serve as a forum for:  o       questions/answers/discussion about Perl/Tk o       getting/installing/porting Perl/Tk o       development of applications in Perl/Tk o       development of Perl/Tk itself  as well any other topic related to "using X from Perl via Tk." The newsgroup is NOT for discussion about Tcl, except as it relates to Tk and/or X.  Novice questions, code snippets, etc. are encouraged.  END CHARTER.  HOW TO VOTE:  You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:        [email protected]  Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:        I vote YES on comp.lang.perl.tk       I vote NO on comp.lang.perl.tk  You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count.  If your mail software does not indicate your real name, please also include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).       Give your real name here:  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  DISTRIBUTION:  In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists:  [email protected]  comp.lang.perl.tk Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------- No bounced votes at this time  Votes in error --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                              Glenn McGregor    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                             Hai Vo-Ba    ! No vote statement in message --  Jan Isley <[email protected]> votes to: <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Wed Oct  4 01:25:23 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.perl.tk passes 352:18 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 4 Oct 1995 05:25:20 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 454 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Sep 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.perl.tk Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7658 news.groups:169365 comp.lang.perl.misc:7873                                  RESULT           unmoderated group comp.lang.perl.tk passes 352:18  comp.lang.perl.tk results - 370 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  352   18 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.lang.perl.tk    1 abstaining vote  and 2 invalid votes  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.   Newsgroups line: comp.lang.perl.tk	Using Tk (and X) from Perl.  Voteing closed on 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Sep 1995.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Jon Orwant <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: comp.lang.perl.tk  Perl/Tk (also called, in various incarnations, "pTk" and "nTk") is an extension for the Perl programming language that enables programmers to develop X applications.  It's popular.  There's a high-volume mailing list devoted to Perl/Tk ([email protected]); the suggestion for this newsgroup arose from that list.  There are probably many people who are interested in Perl/Tk, but have never heard of the mailing list, or are dissuaded from joining because of the message volume.  There are probably many people who are only casually interested in Perl/Tk, and would like to be able to skim a few weeks worth of messages.  There are probably many people who program in Perl, but don't realize that Perl/Tk exists.  CHARTER: comp.lang.perl.tk  This newsgroup will serve as a forum for:  o       questions/answers/discussion about Perl/Tk o       getting/installing/porting Perl/Tk o       development of applications in Perl/Tk o       development of Perl/Tk itself  as well any other topic related to "using X from Perl via Tk." The newsgroup is NOT for discussion about Tcl, except as it relates to Tk and/or X.  Novice questions, code snippets, etc. are encouraged.  END CHARTER.  comp.lang.perl.tk Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                   Hans-Peter Eck [email protected]                                        Aaron Schrab [email protected]                                                   Gisle Aas [email protected]                                             Alan Bridger [email protected]                                               Jason Abate [email protected]                                Alison Cohen [email protected]                                            Andrea Actis [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]                                              Al Castanoli [email protected]                                          Alex Bourov [email protected]                                           Sandy Rattray [email protected]                                        Anantha Kasetty [email protected]                                       Andreas Koenig [email protected]                                         Andrew Cosgriff [email protected]                                          Andy Ward [email protected]            Ann Rautenbach 3267 Systems_Administrator [email protected]                                       Anoop Sarkar [email protected]                                           A. P. Harris [email protected]                                          Arne Olav Sommer [email protected]                                                  ARTICON [email protected]                                          Alain St-Denis [email protected]                                          Ashley Winters [email protected]                                                  Brian Court [email protected]                               Charles Bailey [email protected]                                   BELANGER Martin [email protected]                                  Jack Bennetto [email protected]                                          Bruce Gingery [email protected]                                            Brent Halsey [email protected]                                    William Warner [email protected]                                   Blair Zajac [email protected]                                           Bo S\vderberg [email protected]                                       Harry Bochner [email protected]                                            Eric J. Bohm [email protected]                                    Brad Appleton [email protected]                                             Brooks Smith [email protected]                                              Kees de Bruin [email protected]                                                 Brus Wasson [email protected]                                                Bryan Althaus [email protected]                                           John Carlson [email protected]                                              Carl Vickery [email protected]                                 U-E52690-Cecil L. 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Tefft [email protected]                                     Tim Pierce [email protected]                                      Risto Widenius  Abstained --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                           Kenneth P Crouch   Votes in error --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                              Glenn McGregor    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                             Hai Vo-Ba    ! No vote statement in message 
 
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