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From tsait@iia.org Wed May 11 14:59:16 1994
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From: tsait@iia.org (Tim Tsai)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.realtime,sci.electronics
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.embedded
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                  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

         Group Name:  comp.sys.embedded
             Status:  unmoderated
       Distribution:  world-wide
            Summary:  Discussions related to embedded systems
        Proposed by:  Tim Tsai (tsait@iia.org)


This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.embedded.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.embedded will be
opened to discussions on topics related to embedded systems,
including programming techniques, tools, and hardware systems.
Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to
the appropriate group.  For example, "how to write an
interrupt-driven serial routine for MS-DOS" should probably be
posted to comp.os.msdos.programmer instead, even if an embedded
system is involved.  "how to execute an interrupt-driven serial
routine from ROM in MS-DOS" would be an appropriate topic for
this group.  Note that MS-DOS is only used as an example here.

This RFD is cross-posted to comp.os.msdos.programmer,
comp.realtime, and sci.electronics, where I have noted
discussions on embedded systems in the past.

This is NOT a call for votes.  A Call For Votes (CFV) will be
posted 21 to 30 days from now and will be conducted by an
independent third party.

Note the follow-up to news.groups.  The format for this RFD is
directly stolen from the RFD for comp.org.uniforum and I thank
the original author.

From tsait@iia.org Tue Nov 29 12:44:39 1994
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From: tsait@iia.org (Tim Tsai)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.realtime,sci.electronics,comp.robotics
Subject: RFD: comp.arch.embedded
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                  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

         Group Name:  comp.arch.embedded
             Status:  unmoderated
       Distribution:  world-wide
            Summary:  Discussions related to embedded systems
        Proposed by:  Tim Tsai (tsait@iia.org)


This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.arch.embedded.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.arch.embedded will be
opened to discussions on topics related to embedded systems,
including embedded programming techniques, tools, hardware
systems, and embedded peripherals such as displays and data
entry equipment.  An embedded system can be described as any
application where a dedicated computer is built right into the
system but the end product is not a computer.  For example, the
computer system that's built into a typical cable TV box is
considered an embedded system.

Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to
the appropriate group.  Only topics that involve an embedded
system that can not be better answered elsewhere should be
posted here.

This RFD is cross-posted to comp.os.msdos.programmer,
comp.realtime, comp.robotics, and sci.electronics where I have
noted discussions on embedded systems in the past.

This is NOT a call for votes.  A Call For Votes (CFV) will be
posted after the RFD period and will be conducted by an
independent third party.

Note the follow-up to news.groups.

From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Tue Jan 24 14:08:39 1995
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                     unmoderated group comp.arch.embedded

Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.embedded	Embedded computer systems topics.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 15 February 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group contact Tim Tsai <tsait@iia.org>.


CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.arch.embedded will be opened
to discussions on topics related to embedded systems, including
embedded programming techniques, tools, hardware systems, and embedded
peripherals such as displays and data entry equipment.  An embedded
system can be described as any application where a dedicated computer
is built right into the system but the end product is not a computer.
For example, the computer system that's built into a typical cable TV
box is considered an embedded system.

Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to the
appropriate group.  Only topics that involve an embedded system that
can not be better answered elsewhere should be posted here.  Use your
best judgment if in doubt.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.arch.embedded
      I vote NO on comp.arch.embedded

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Mar 15 14:45:41 1995
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.arch.embedded passes 226:18
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                                    RESULT
	  unmoderated group comp.arch.embedded passes 226:18

There were 226 YES votes and 18 NO votes, for a total of 244 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 2 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.embedded	Embedded computer systems topics.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group contact Tim Tsai <tsait@iia.org>.


CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.arch.embedded will be opened
to discussions on topics related to embedded systems, including
embedded programming techniques, tools, hardware systems, and embedded
peripherals such as displays and data entry equipment.  An embedded
system can be described as any application where a dedicated computer
is built right into the system but the end product is not a computer.
For example, the computer system that's built into a typical cable TV
box is considered an embedded system.

Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to the
appropriate group.  Only topics that involve an embedded system that
can not be better answered elsewhere should be posted here.  Use your
best judgment if in doubt.


comp.arch.embedded Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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74171.1664@compuserve.com                                      Andrew Trossman
74403.3372@compuserve.com                                            Ron Hodge
a7f@ornl.gov                                               Jeffrey S. Armfield
aa006@mailhost.servelan.co.uk                                        Bill Davy
af204@freenet.carleton.ca                                  Jean-Francois Allie
afargnol@spd.dsccc.com                                             Al Fargnoli
agodwin@acorn.co.uk                                              Adrian Godwin
alan@apple.com                                                      Alan Mimms
alavizad@sas.upenn.edu                                      Seyed A Alavizadeh
aliphas@dspnet.com                                               Amnon Aliphas
ap674@freenet.toronto.on.ca                                     Edward Egberts
Arthur.Chance@Smallworld.co.uk                                   Arthur Chance
atilghma@sdcc10.UCSD.EDU                                         Adam Tilghman
ault@cs.albany.edu                                                    Jim Ault
bakula@zoetrope.ils.nwu.edu
bapty@vuse.vanderbilt.edu                                 Theodore Allan Bapty
bbunch@imtn.dsccc.com                                               Bill Bunch
BELANGER002@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU
belser@nirvana.ctron                                               Dave Belser
bengtl@maths.lth.se                                              Bengt Larsson
benson@ari.net                                                      Bill Clery
benst@stuyts.nl                                                     Ben Stuyts
bert@pax.eunet.ch                                          Bertrand Delacretaz
bhl@hugin.jpl.nasa.gov                                    Bjorn H. Lambrigtsen
bill@cygnus.wa.com                                                   Bill Swan
blane@nyx10.cs.du.edu                                               Brian Lane
blbishop@ucdavis.edu                                              Brian Bishop
boaz@radlinx.radlinx.rad.co.il
Bob.Gibbons@dseg.ti.com                                            bob gibbons
bofrede@ibm.net
booda@us1.navo.navy.mil                                        Martin H. Booda
bprescot@sirius.uvic.ca                                         Blair Prescott
brianvdb@netcom.com                                       Brian Van Den Broeke
bright@li.net                                                    Thomas Wilson
brown@ctron.com                                                  Doug H. Brown
BSTURM@delphi.com
butler@world.std.com                                              Bryan Butler
c22mec@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                                  Mary E. Coombs
camacho@optilink.optilink.dsccc.com                                Don_Camacho
cees@iaehv.nl                                                       Hans Brand
charleso@pecnz.pec.co.nz
chubbard@eskimo.com                                            Charles Hubbard
cj@algonet.se                                               Christer Johansson
cjensen@netcom.com                                                Colin Jensen
Clive.Jones@armltd.co.uk
clstampe@mailbox.syr.edu                                         Chris Stamper
clydes@comm.mot.com                                              Clyde Spidell
coggs@HongKong.Cogwheel.COM                                     Bob Coggeshall
collsc@snowbird.aud.alcatel.com                                  Scott Collins
cps@access.digex.net                                           Chris Smolinski
cramer@norland.com                                             Brian L. Cramer
csgro@electro.com                                                   Carlo Sgro
curtis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM                                      Curtis Keller
danh@qnx.com                                                    Dan Hildebrand
davidj@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU                                         David Johnson
dawks@ix.netcom.com                                               phil dawkins
dday@world.std.com                                                   david day
dhan@sh.bel.alcatel.be                                Dominic Hanlan SH37 7786
dhelton@ins.infonet.net                                           David Helton
dlg@desdev.com                                                Donald L. Gaines
DMB8369@UTARLG.UTA.EDU                                               Barnzilla
dnewton@xnet.com                                                   Dave Newton
doc@docdevl.actrix.gen.nz                                           Paul Waite
Donald.W.Heller@jpl.nasa.gov
doug@feedme.syssoft.com                                             Doug Salot
dpd@tpg.tpg.oz.au                                                Denis Dowling
drials@metronet.com                                              Darrell Rials
dt@nipnyep.apana.org.au                                           Daryl Tester
dwpayne@rbdc.rbdc.com                                           David W. Payne
eab@msc.edu                                                     Edward Bertsch
edhall@rand.org                                                        Ed Hall
eric@apache.Telebit.COM                                             Eric Smith
etadlock@edge.ercnet.com                                            Ed Tadlock
Francoise.Simonot@ensem.u-nancy.fr
fredrik.paasche@alcatel.no                                     Fredrik Paasche
fryer@plasm.chinalake.navy.mil                                   Richard Fryer
glider@netcom.com                                                Joseph Glider
gmarsden@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com                                  Greg Marsden
gouilly@cett.alcatel-alsthom.fr                                     Mr Gouilly
govor@lreri.lviv.ua                                                   Govoryha
gt@prosun.first.gmd.de                                        Gerd Truschinski
hbonney@netcom.com                                                 Hugh Bonney
hjonson@cts.com                                                  Henrik Jonson
hogle@carla.crd.ge.com                                              Rich Hogle
hone@mlap-ws5.uni-paderborn.de                                    Uwe Honekamp
ianc@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.uk                                          Ian Craig
ianw@iinet.com.au                                                    Ian Wiese
injacho@wam.umd.edu                                                  In-ja Cho
irving@vlsi.polymtl.ca                                        irving lustigman
jcduenas@dit.upm.es                                   Juan Carlos Duenas Lopez
jdalmand@statens1.state.ga.us                    JD Almand-DOAS Telcom Systems
jeff@wahoo.jjm.com                                         Jeffrey J. Griglack
jerry@z-code.com                                                 Jerry Hudgins
jgais@wd.estec.esa.nl                                                J.Gaisler
jhoward@solar.sky.net
jhowat@athens.cs.waikato.ac.nz                                           Howat
jim.fleming@bytes.com                                              Jim Fleming
jkahl@primenet.com                                                Jeffrey Kahl
jla@cs.indiana.edu                                               jason almeter
jlawson@evbhort.uoguelph.ca                                       Jamie Lawson
jocoats@amoco.com                                                   Coats Jack
joel@morgana.gcs.redstone.army.mil                               Joel Sherrill
john=r=klein@msd.ray.com                                          John R Klein
johns@rd.scitec.com.au                                           John Saunders
jspidell@sysad.cnde.iastate.edu                                   J.R. Spidell
jst@speech.iar.nrc.ca                                 Jean-Sebastien Theriault
jstone@world.std.com                                                Jeff Stone
jsuzuki@trc.mew.co.jp                                           Junichi Suzuki
jtaelgoj@bi.ehu.es                             Javier Elustondo Gonzalez-Pinto
jtwp@ferndown.ate.slb.com
jwcollin@rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu                                Jeff Collins
jwes@BIX.com
kai@ade.no                                                    Kai Atle Myrvang
kbass@clark.net                                                       Ken Bass
ken@hte.com                                                         Ken Arnold
ken@rahul.net                                                    Ken Greenberg
kenji@reseau.toyonaka.osaka.jp                                  Kenji Rikitake
knapper@bga.com                                               Woodrow W. Baker
knuth@lmis.loral.com                                                     knuth
koopman@casun2.res.utc.com@casun2.res.utc.com               Phil Koopman x1624
kpruitt@silver.sdsmt.edu                                          Keith Pruitt
kurmas@alaric.chi.il.us                                            Paul Kurmas
lacovara@ollie.jsc.nasa.gov                                     R. C. Lacovara
lcasto@cis.ohio-state.edu                                      lawanna j casto
levine@rsgi02.rhic.bnl.gov                                   Micheal J. LeVine
linc@SDSC.EDU
lme@gtech.com                                            Linda M. Easterbrooks
lyh@shore.net                                                    Lih-Yen Hsieh
M.C.Rogers@ecs.soton.ac.uk                                         Mark Rogers
malcolm.yeoman@digitec.co.za                                    Malcolm Yeoman
mallory@rain.org                                                Walter Mallory
mark@valet.phx.mcd.mot.com
maroe@teleport.com                                              Michael A. Roe
Martine.Wahl@imag.fr                                                      Wahl
mathison@sara.cpb.org                                         Neil T. Mathison
max@octel.com                                                     Gary Maxwell
mayr@feless01.tu-graz.ac.at                                     Friedrich Mayr
mcoleman@tenmail.mincom.oz.au                                     Mark Coleman
medge@lincoln.gpsemi.COM                                        Mark Edgeworth
mfx@cs.tu-berlin.de                                           Markus Freericks
michael.williams@armltd.co.uk                                 Michael Williams
microtima@cix.compulink.co.uk                                        Microtima
micsaund@lamar.ColoState.EDU                                  Michael Saunders
mlitoiu@ac.upc.es                                                 Marin Litoiu
mm@chorus.fr                                                     Marc Maathuis
mms@eiscathq.irf.se                                             Misha Savitski
moisan@bronze.lcs.mit.edu                                         David Moisan
moliver@pyramid.com                                                Mike Oliver
mphilip@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
mrs@sunsrvr1.cci.com                                              Mark Simpson
mrstampe@mailbox.syr.edu                                   Marjorie R. Stamper
mstanek@rcsuna.gmr.com                                         Mitchell Stanek
murr@infomatch.com                                                   Murray K.
mwshurt@ix.netcom.com                                           Mark Shurtleff
mzenier@eskimo.com                                                 Mark Zenier
naddy@mips.pfalz.de                                       Christian Weisgerber
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com                                          Nick Ingegneri
Ninane@fynu.ucl.ac.be
ninapint@ix.netcom.com                                              Nina Pinto
nlv@clark.net                                                            Noble
olmsted@cs.ucdavis.edu
P.Burgess@massey.ac.nz                                           Peter Burgess
paul@suite.sw.oz.au                                               Paul Antoine
Paulfr@ix.netcom.com                                                Paul Freda
Pavan.Sikka@faceng.anu.edu.au                                      Pavan Sikka
perle@cs.tu-berlin.de                                              Frank Wilde
peter@bonkers.taronga.com                                       Peter da Silva
peterb@sun470.rd.qms.com                                        Peter Buechler
phamalai@vipunen.hut.fi                                     Petteri H{m{l{inen
phmaq01@ibm.net
piggy@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au                               La Monte Yarroll
poet@world.std.com                                                     Ted Poe
PRobinso@QITGSDV1.TELECOM.com.au                          Robinson, Peter John
pvirkkul@snakemail.hut.fi                                       Petri Virkkula
ram@iti.gov.sg                                                   Ram S Kidambi
rant@ix.netcom.com                                                 Ran Talbott
re36648@tx.deere.com                                                Dave Smart
rellison@wrdis01.robins.af.mil                     Rick CONTRACTOR Ellison Mr.
rem@vvl.co.uk                                                   Roger Monteith
rgetz@lcc1.nsc.com                                                  Robin Getz
rgf@swl.msd.ray.com                                     Richard Fortin {82675}
riti@cesi.it                                                    Francesco Riti
rke6994@crusher.dukepower.com
robert@braniac.hd.sub.org                                        Robert Singer
rodn@sundae.triumf.ca                                        Rod B. Nussbaumer
roelof.dijkstra@tic.iaf.nl
RonHESP@aol.com
roo@gec-mi-at.co.uk                                                Andy Walker
rswenson@campus.qro.itesm.mx                          Rick Leigh Swenson Durie
rufinus@dxcern.cern.ch                                              J. Rufinus
rwaters@jabba.ess.harris.com                                      Ralph Waters
sadovski@bimacs.cs.biu.ac.il                                   Sadovski kirill
sag@world.std.com                                               Stephen A Glow
sce@swl.msd.ray.com                                                Steve Ernst
scott@fire.dmll.cornell.edu                                      Scott Gargash
scott@microsol.com
sdgoodman@aol.com                                                    SDGoodman
shaunc@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM                                      Math Hoodlum
showard@wimsey.com
shura@rd.reltec.spb.su                                  Alexander L. Gorlovsky
simonpe@aifh.ed.ac.uk
smbourne@lightside.com                                         Scott M. Bourne
stephen.nicoud@boeing.com                                     Stephen L Nicoud
stephen@jtec.com.au                                                 Stephen Ma
steve_driedger@mindlink.bc.ca                                Steve C. Driedger
stu@valinor.mythical.com                                          Stu Labovitz
theo@amcu-tx.sps.mot.com                                           Theo Freund
tim@hte.com                                                         Tim O'Hara
tmatts@tcp.co.uk                                               Tony Mattingley
tom@as.arizona.edu                                          Thomas J. Trebisky
tommotek@perth.DIALix.oz.au                                           Tommotek
trg1@ins.infonet.net                                               Tim Prachar
tsait@iia.org                                                         Tim Tsai
Tuscadero@aol.com
u3515800@au.ac.th                                                 Chan Chok O.
valentin@netcom.com                                           Valentin Pepelea
vic@mmalt.guild.org                                            Vic Kulikauskas
walsterdk@LINCOLNDOD-PO.lincoln.gpsemi.COM                        Dave Walster
wardml@cig.mot.com                                             Matthew L. Ward
watsonb@carrot.cage.curtin.edu.au                                  Bret Watson
wcarroll@encore.com                                            William Carroll
wdf@ferndown.ate.slb.com
weil@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu                                         Mark Weil
windhorn@ic.mankato.mn.us                                       Allen Windhorn
xkksidi@tn.ericsson.se                                             Simon Dismo
yadallee@DoctOr.ampr.ab.ca                               Dave Shariff Yadallee

Voted No
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ananda@cs.utexas.edu                                             Ananda M. Kar
archer@frmug.fr.net                                             Vincent Archer
Bernad.Batinic@psychol.uni-giessen.de                           Bernad Batinic
byeakel@rahul.net                                                  Bill Yeakel
chris@cosmic.dinoco.de                                          Christian Much
cward@Think.COM                                               Christopher Ward
dc@panix.com                                                 David W. Crawford
feminist@eskimo.com                                       William Affleck-Asch
hemant@ee.WPI.EDU                                              Hemant Rotithor
jrm@globalvillag.com                                     John R. MacWilliamson
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU                                                Pete Bastien
radrayer@panix.com                                              Rebecca Drayer
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
smarry@turing.toronto.edu                                         Smarasderagd
st94dsh8@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu                                       David Hunt
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
steve@omniplus.com                                              Steve Mitchell
WEBERD%VAXEN@SEMATECH.Org

Abstained
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crouchkp@flidh103.delcoelect.com                              Kenneth P Crouch
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu                         M. "My arches are embedded" Otto


Votes in error
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pg@parsley.mpik-tueb.mpg.de                                      Philipp Georg
   ! No vote statement in message
trt@ssb.no                                                      Trond T\xrstad
   ! Conflicting votes

 
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