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From [email protected] Wed May 11 14:59:16 1994
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From: [email protected] (Tim Tsai)
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                  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

         Group Name:  comp.sys.embedded
             Status:  unmoderated
       Distribution:  world-wide
            Summary:  Discussions related to embedded systems
        Proposed by:  Tim Tsai ([email protected])


This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.embedded.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.embedded will be
opened to discussions on topics related to embedded systems,
including programming techniques, tools, and hardware systems.
Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to
the appropriate group.  For example, "how to write an
interrupt-driven serial routine for MS-DOS" should probably be
posted to comp.os.msdos.programmer instead, even if an embedded
system is involved.  "how to execute an interrupt-driven serial
routine from ROM in MS-DOS" would be an appropriate topic for
this group.  Note that MS-DOS is only used as an example here.

This RFD is cross-posted to comp.os.msdos.programmer,
comp.realtime, and sci.electronics, where I have noted
discussions on embedded systems in the past.

This is NOT a call for votes.  A Call For Votes (CFV) will be
posted 21 to 30 days from now and will be conducted by an
independent third party.

Note the follow-up to news.groups.  The format for this RFD is
directly stolen from the RFD for comp.org.uniforum and I thank
the original author.

From [email protected] Tue Nov 29 12:44:39 1994
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                  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

         Group Name:  comp.arch.embedded
             Status:  unmoderated
       Distribution:  world-wide
            Summary:  Discussions related to embedded systems
        Proposed by:  Tim Tsai ([email protected])


This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.arch.embedded.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.arch.embedded will be
opened to discussions on topics related to embedded systems,
including embedded programming techniques, tools, hardware
systems, and embedded peripherals such as displays and data
entry equipment.  An embedded system can be described as any
application where a dedicated computer is built right into the
system but the end product is not a computer.  For example, the
computer system that's built into a typical cable TV box is
considered an embedded system.

Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to
the appropriate group.  Only topics that involve an embedded
system that can not be better answered elsewhere should be
posted here.

This RFD is cross-posted to comp.os.msdos.programmer,
comp.realtime, comp.robotics, and sci.electronics where I have
noted discussions on embedded systems in the past.

This is NOT a call for votes.  A Call For Votes (CFV) will be
posted after the RFD period and will be conducted by an
independent third party.

Note the follow-up to news.groups.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Jan 24 14:08:39 1995
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                     unmoderated group comp.arch.embedded

Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.embedded	Embedded computer systems topics.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 15 February 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Tim Tsai <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.arch.embedded will be opened
to discussions on topics related to embedded systems, including
embedded programming techniques, tools, hardware systems, and embedded
peripherals such as displays and data entry equipment.  An embedded
system can be described as any application where a dedicated computer
is built right into the system but the end product is not a computer.
For example, the computer system that's built into a typical cable TV
box is considered an embedded system.

Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to the
appropriate group.  Only topics that involve an embedded system that
can not be better answered elsewhere should be posted here.  Use your
best judgment if in doubt.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.arch.embedded
      I vote NO on comp.arch.embedded

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Mar 15 14:45:41 1995
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.arch.embedded passes 226:18
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                                    RESULT
	  unmoderated group comp.arch.embedded passes 226:18

There were 226 YES votes and 18 NO votes, for a total of 244 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 2 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.embedded	Embedded computer systems topics.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Tim Tsai <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.arch.embedded will be opened
to discussions on topics related to embedded systems, including
embedded programming techniques, tools, hardware systems, and embedded
peripherals such as displays and data entry equipment.  An embedded
system can be described as any application where a dedicated computer
is built right into the system but the end product is not a computer.
For example, the computer system that's built into a typical cable TV
box is considered an embedded system.

Topics not specific to embedded systems should be directed to the
appropriate group.  Only topics that involve an embedded system that
can not be better answered elsewhere should be posted here.  Use your
best judgment if in doubt.


comp.arch.embedded Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                      Andrew Trossman
[email protected]                                            Ron Hodge
[email protected]                                               Jeffrey S. Armfield
[email protected]                                        Bill Davy
[email protected]                                  Jean-Francois Allie
[email protected]                                             Al Fargnoli
[email protected]                                              Adrian Godwin
[email protected]                                                      Alan Mimms
[email protected]                                      Seyed A Alavizadeh
[email protected]                                               Amnon Aliphas
[email protected]                                     Edward Egberts
[email protected]                                   Arthur Chance
[email protected]                                         Adam Tilghman
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
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[email protected]                                 Theodore Allan Bapty
[email protected]                                               Bill Bunch
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[email protected]                                               Dave Belser
[email protected]                                              Bengt Larsson
[email protected]                                                      Bill Clery
[email protected]                                                     Ben Stuyts
[email protected]                                          Bertrand Delacretaz
[email protected]                                    Bjorn H. Lambrigtsen
[email protected]                                                   Bill Swan
[email protected]                                               Brian Lane
[email protected]                                              Brian Bishop
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[email protected]                                            bob gibbons
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[email protected]                                        Martin H. Booda
[email protected]                                         Blair Prescott
[email protected]                                       Brian Van Den Broeke
[email protected]                                                    Thomas Wilson
[email protected]                                                  Doug H. Brown
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[email protected]                                              Bryan Butler
[email protected]                                  Mary E. Coombs
[email protected]                                Don_Camacho
[email protected]                                                       Hans Brand
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[email protected]                                            Charles Hubbard
[email protected]                                               Christer Johansson
[email protected]                                                Colin Jensen
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[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                              Clyde Spidell
[email protected]                                     Bob Coggeshall
[email protected]                                  Scott Collins
[email protected]                                           Chris Smolinski
[email protected]                                             Brian L. Cramer
[email protected]                                                   Carlo Sgro
[email protected]                                      Curtis Keller
[email protected]                                                    Dan Hildebrand
[email protected]                                         David Johnson
[email protected]                                               phil dawkins
[email protected]                                                   david day
[email protected]                                Dominic Hanlan SH37 7786
[email protected]                                           David Helton
[email protected]                                                Donald L. Gaines
[email protected]                                               Barnzilla
[email protected]                                                   Dave Newton
[email protected]                                           Paul Waite
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[email protected]                                             Doug Salot
[email protected]                                                Denis Dowling
[email protected]                                              Darrell Rials
[email protected]                                           Daryl Tester
[email protected]                                           David W. Payne
[email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch
[email protected]                                                        Ed Hall
[email protected]                                             Eric Smith
[email protected]                                            Ed Tadlock
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[email protected]                                     Fredrik Paasche
[email protected]                                   Richard Fryer
[email protected]                                                Joseph Glider
[email protected]                                  Greg Marsden
[email protected]                                     Mr Gouilly
[email protected]                                                   Govoryha
[email protected]                                        Gerd Truschinski
[email protected]                                                 Hugh Bonney
[email protected]                                                  Henrik Jonson
[email protected]                                              Rich Hogle
[email protected]                                    Uwe Honekamp
[email protected]                                          Ian Craig
[email protected]                                                    Ian Wiese
[email protected]                                                  In-ja Cho
[email protected]                                        irving lustigman
[email protected]                                   Juan Carlos Duenas Lopez
[email protected]                    JD Almand-DOAS Telcom Systems
[email protected]                                         Jeffrey J. Griglack
[email protected]                                                 Jerry Hudgins
[email protected]                                                J.Gaisler
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[email protected]                                           Howat
[email protected]                                              Jim Fleming
[email protected]                                                Jeffrey Kahl
[email protected]                                               jason almeter
[email protected]                                       Jamie Lawson
[email protected]                                                   Coats Jack
[email protected]                               Joel Sherrill
[email protected]                                          John R Klein
[email protected]                                           John Saunders
[email protected]                                   J.R. Spidell
[email protected]                                 Jean-Sebastien Theriault
[email protected]                                                Jeff Stone
[email protected]                                           Junichi Suzuki
[email protected]                             Javier Elustondo Gonzalez-Pinto
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[email protected]                                Jeff Collins
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[email protected]                                                    Kai Atle Myrvang
[email protected]                                                       Ken Bass
[email protected]                                                         Ken Arnold
[email protected]                                                    Ken Greenberg
[email protected]                                  Kenji Rikitake
[email protected]                                               Woodrow W. Baker
[email protected]                                                     knuth
[email protected]@casun2.res.utc.com               Phil Koopman x1624
[email protected]                                          Keith Pruitt
[email protected]                                            Paul Kurmas
[email protected]                                     R. C. Lacovara
[email protected]                                      lawanna j casto
[email protected]                                   Micheal J. LeVine
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[email protected]                                            Linda M. Easterbrooks
[email protected]                                                    Lih-Yen Hsieh
[email protected]                                         Mark Rogers
[email protected]                                    Malcolm Yeoman
[email protected]                                                Walter Mallory
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[email protected]                                              Michael A. Roe
[email protected]                                                      Wahl
[email protected]                                         Neil T. Mathison
[email protected]                                                     Gary Maxwell
[email protected]                                     Friedrich Mayr
[email protected]                                     Mark Coleman
[email protected]                                        Mark Edgeworth
[email protected]                                           Markus Freericks
[email protected]                                 Michael Williams
[email protected]                                        Microtima
[email protected]                                  Michael Saunders
[email protected]                                                 Marin Litoiu
[email protected]                                                     Marc Maathuis
[email protected]                                             Misha Savitski
[email protected]                                         David Moisan
[email protected]                                                Mike Oliver
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[email protected]                                              Mark Simpson
[email protected]                                   Marjorie R. Stamper
[email protected]                                         Mitchell Stanek
[email protected]                                                   Murray K.
[email protected]                                           Mark Shurtleff
[email protected]                                                 Mark Zenier
[email protected]                                       Christian Weisgerber
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
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[email protected]                                              Nina Pinto
[email protected]                                                            Noble
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[email protected]                                           Peter Burgess
[email protected]                                               Paul Antoine
[email protected]                                                Paul Freda
[email protected]                                      Pavan Sikka
[email protected]                                              Frank Wilde
[email protected]                                       Peter da Silva
[email protected]                                        Peter Buechler
[email protected]                                     Petteri H{m{l{inen
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[email protected]                               La Monte Yarroll
[email protected]                                                     Ted Poe
[email protected]                          Robinson, Peter John
[email protected]                                       Petri Virkkula
[email protected]                                                   Ram S Kidambi
[email protected]                                                 Ran Talbott
[email protected]                                                Dave Smart
[email protected]                     Rick CONTRACTOR Ellison Mr.
[email protected]                                                   Roger Monteith
[email protected]                                                  Robin Getz
[email protected]                                     Richard Fortin {82675}
[email protected]                                                    Francesco Riti
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[email protected]                                        Robert Singer
[email protected]                                        Rod B. Nussbaumer
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[email protected]                                                Andy Walker
[email protected]                          Rick Leigh Swenson Durie
[email protected]                                              J. Rufinus
[email protected]                                      Ralph Waters
[email protected]                                   Sadovski kirill
[email protected]                                               Stephen A Glow
[email protected]                                                Steve Ernst
[email protected]                                      Scott Gargash
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[email protected]                                                    SDGoodman
[email protected]                                      Math Hoodlum
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[email protected]                                  Alexander L. Gorlovsky
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[email protected]                                         Scott M. Bourne
[email protected]                                     Stephen L Nicoud
[email protected]                                                 Stephen Ma
[email protected]                                Steve C. Driedger
[email protected]                                          Stu Labovitz
[email protected]                                           Theo Freund
[email protected]                                                         Tim O'Hara
[email protected]                                               Tony Mattingley
[email protected]                                          Thomas J. Trebisky
[email protected]                                           Tommotek
[email protected]                                               Tim Prachar
[email protected]                                                         Tim Tsai
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[email protected]                                                 Chan Chok O.
[email protected]                                           Valentin Pepelea
[email protected]                                            Vic Kulikauskas
[email protected]                        Dave Walster
[email protected]                                             Matthew L. Ward
[email protected]                                  Bret Watson
[email protected]                                            William Carroll
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[email protected]                                         Mark Weil
[email protected]                                       Allen Windhorn
[email protected]                                             Simon Dismo
[email protected]                               Dave Shariff Yadallee

Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar
[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                           Bernad Batinic
[email protected]                                                  Bill Yeakel
[email protected]                                          Christian Much
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                 David W. Crawford
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                                              Hemant Rotithor
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                       David Hunt
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                              Steve Mitchell
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Abstained
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                         M. "My arches are embedded" Otto


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                      Philipp Georg
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                      Trond T\xrstad
   ! Conflicting votes

 
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