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Compass ( comp.cad.compass )
 
From [email protected] Wed Apr  7 11:46:05 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Lloyd C. Cha)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mentor,comp.cad.cadence,comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl,alt.sys.intergraph
Subject: RFD: comp.cad.compass
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 6 Apr 1993 16:11:17 -0400
Organization: Rockwell International, Newport Beach, CA
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              REQUEST for DISCUSSION:  comp.cad.compass
              -----------------------------------------

This is a request for discussion of the proposal to create an unmoderated
Usenet newsgroup called "comp.cad.compass".  This name (and position in
the tree) is not final;  other suggestions are welcome during the discussion.
(Another possibility is "comp.sys.compass")

Charter:
--------
The proposed newsgroup "comp.cad.compass" will serve as a medium for
discussing issues and exchanging information with regards to the Compass
Design Automation EDA tools.

Rationale:
----------
The correct use and application of EDA software is pivotal to the success of
integrated circuit design.  A significant number of designers are using
the Compass Design Automation tools to develop integrated circuits.  The
Compass Design Automation tools are very sophisticated and complex.  As with
all EDA software, there are subtle 'tricks' and procedures that can help a
designer perform better when using the Compass Design Automation tools.  A
newsgroup addressing this EDA tool set will allow both users and developers of
the Compass Design Automation software to exchange information.  This offers
an increased 'pool-of-information' concerning these tools that can be used to
help designers make better use of the Compass Design Automation software.  The
information can also be helpful in Compass Design Automation's efforts to
improve the tools.

Contents:
---------
The following topics would be appropriate for the newsgroup:

-Useful hints on using the Compass Design Automation Software more
 effectively
-Identification of bugs/shortcomings in the software
-Suggestions for improving the design tools
-Information regarding integration of the Compass Design Automation tools with
 other design software
-Hardware related issues when using the tools
-Applications notes
-Scripts/programs which can assist in doing a design using the Compass Design
 Automation software
-Benchmarks
-Information regarding Compass User Group activities

Discussion Period:
------------------
The discussion period will be from April 6 to May 6, 1993.  Please post
follow-up discussion  to news.groups.  After that period, if enough interest
is shown and a consensus is reached, a CVF (call-for-votes) will be posted
and a vote will be run.  The voting period will last for another 31 days.
-- 
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Lloyd Cha                  * DISCLAIMER:  The views expressed above do not
[email protected]  * necessarily represent the opinions of anyone.

From [email protected] Wed Apr 28 18:54:39 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Lloyd C. Cha <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mentor,comp.cad.cadence,comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl,alt.sys.intergraph
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.cad.compass
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 27 Apr 1993 16:21:32 -0400
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            2nd REQUEST for DISCUSSION:  comp.cad.compass
            ---------------------------------------------

This is a SECOND request for discussion of the proposal to create an
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup called "comp.cad.compass".  This name
(and position in the tree) is not final; other suggestions are welcome
during the discussion.  (Another possibility is "comp.sys.compass").

Charter:
--------
The proposed newsgroup "comp.cad.compass" will serve as a medium for
discussing issues and exchanging information with regards to the
Compass Design Automation EDA tools.

Rationale:
----------

The correct use and application of EDA software is pivotal to the
success of integrated circuit design.  A significant number of
designers are using the Compass Design Automation tools to develop
integrated circuits.  The Compass Design Automation tools are very
sophisticated and complex.  As with all EDA software, there are subtle
'tricks' and procedures that can help a designer perform better when
using the Compass Design Automation tools.  A newsgroup addressing
this EDA tool set will allow both users and developers of the Compass
Design Automation software to exchange information.  This offers an
increased 'pool-of-information' concerning these tools that can be
used to help designers make better use of the Compass Design
Automation software.  The information can also be helpful in Compass
Design Automation's efforts to improve the tools.

Contents:
---------
The following topics would be appropriate for the newsgroup:

-Useful hints on using the Compass Design Automation Software more
 effectively
-Identification of bugs/shortcomings in the software
-Suggestions for improving the design tools
-Information regarding integration of the Compass Design Automation tools with
 other design software
-Hardware related issues when using the tools
-Applications notes
-Scripts/programs which can assist in doing a design using the Compass Design
 Automation software
-Benchmarks
-Information regarding Compass User Group activities

Discussion Period:
------------------
The discussion period will be from April 6 to May 6, 1993.  Please
post follow-up discussion to news.groups (if you have trouble posting,
you can send mail to [email protected] or the author of this
RFD at [email protected]).  After that period, if enough interest
is shown and a consensus is reached, a CVF (call-for-votes) will be
posted and a vote will be run.  The voting period will last for
another 31 days.

From [email protected] Tue May 11 08:41:59 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Lloyd C. Cha <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mentor,comp.cad.cadence,comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl,alt.sys.intergraph
Subject: CFV: comp.cad.compass
Followup-To: poster
Date: 10 May 1993 11:44:27 -0400
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                  CALL FOR VOTES:  comp.cad.compass
                  ---------------------------------

This is an official CALL FOR VOTES on the proposal to create an
unmoderated USENET newsgroups called "comp.cad.compass".  Voting
instructions follow the description of the proposed newsgroup.


Charter:
--------
The proposed newsgroup "comp.cad.compass" will serve as a medium for
discussing issues and exchanging information with regards to the
Compass Design Automation EDA tools.

Rationale:
----------

The correct use and application of EDA software is pivotal to the
success of integrated circuit design.  A significant number of
designers are using the Compass Design Automation tools to develop
integrated circuits.  The Compass Design Automation tools are very
sophisticated and complex.  As with all EDA software, there are subtle
'tricks' and procedures that can help a designer perform better when
using the Compass Design Automation tools.  A newsgroup addressing
this EDA tool set will allow both users and developers of the Compass
Design Automation software to exchange information.  This offers an
increased 'pool-of-information' concerning these tools that can be
used to help designers make better use of the Compass Design
Automation software.  The information can also be helpful in Compass
Design Automation's efforts to improve the tools.

Contents:
---------
The following topics would be appropriate for the newsgroup:

-Useful hints on using the Compass Design Automation Software more
 effectively
-Identification of bugs/shortcomings in the software
-Suggestions for improving the design tools
-Information regarding integration of the Compass Design Automation tools with
 other design software
-Hardware related issues when using the tools
-Applications notes
-Scripts/programs which can assist in doing a design using the Compass Design
 Automation software
-Benchmarks
-Information regarding Compass User Group activities

=============================================================================

Voting Instructions:
--------------------
Please send all votes by e-mail to the following address:

                        [email protected]

The contents of the message must CLEARLY and unconditionally state
whether you are voting for or against the creation of
comp.cad.compass.  For example:

   FOR:     I vote YES - for the creation of comp.cad.compass.
   AGAINST: I vote NO - against the creation of comp.cad.compass.

All votes must be received by e-mail at the above address.  Votes
posted to newsgroups will not be valid.

Voting Period:
--------------
The voting period will be from May 10 through June 10, 1993, 23:59 PDT.
Only those votes which are received at the vote-taker's machine during this
period will be counted (timezone PDT).  Results will be posted to
news.announce.newgroups and news.groups.
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From [email protected] Wed May 26 17:08:09 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Lloyd C. Cha <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mentor,comp.cad.cadence,comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl,alt.sys.intergraph
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.cad.compass
Followup-To: poster
Date: 20 May 1993 11:41:58 -0400
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                2nd CALL FOR VOTES:  comp.cad.compass
                -------------------------------------

This is a second official CALL FOR VOTES on the proposal to create an
unmoderated USENET newsgroups called "comp.cad.compass".  Voting
instructions follow the description of the proposed newsgroup.


Charter:
--------
The proposed newsgroup "comp.cad.compass" will serve as a medium for
discussing issues and exchanging information with regards to the
Compass Design Automation EDA tools.

Rationale:
----------

The correct use and application of EDA software is pivotal to the
success of integrated circuit design.  A significant number of
designers are using the Compass Design Automation tools to develop
integrated circuits.  The Compass Design Automation tools are very
sophisticated and complex.  As with all EDA software, there are subtle
'tricks' and procedures that can help a designer perform better when
using the Compass Design Automation tools.  A newsgroup addressing
this EDA tool set will allow both users and developers of the Compass
Design Automation software to exchange information.  This offers an
increased 'pool-of-information' concerning these tools that can be
used to help designers make better use of the Compass Design
Automation software.  The information can also be helpful in Compass
Design Automation's efforts to improve the tools.

Contents:
---------
The following topics would be appropriate for the newsgroup:

-Useful hints on using the Compass Design Automation Software more
 effectively
-Identification of bugs/shortcomings in the software
-Suggestions for improving the design tools
-Information regarding integration of the Compass Design Automation tools with
 other design software
-Hardware related issues when using the tools
-Applications notes
-Scripts/programs which can assist in doing a design using the Compass Design
 Automation software
-Benchmarks
-Information regarding Compass User Group activities

=============================================================================

Voting Instructions:
--------------------
Please send all votes by e-mail to the following address:

                        [email protected]

The contents of the message must CLEARLY and unconditionally state
whether you are voting for or against the creation of
comp.cad.compass.  For example:

   FOR:     I vote YES - for the creation of comp.cad.compass.
   AGAINST: I vote NO - against the creation of comp.cad.compass.

All votes must be received by e-mail at the above address.  Votes
posted to newsgroups will not be valid.

Voting Period:
--------------
The voting period will be from May 10 through June 10, 1993, 23:59 PDT.
Only those votes which are received at the vote-taker's machine during this
period will be counted (timezone PDT).  Results will be posted to
news.announce.newgroups and news.groups.


===========================================================================
VOTES received as of 9am PST 5/19/93
===========================================================================
"Arnold Muralt" <[email protected]>
"Eric J. Olson" <[email protected]>
"Fadi J. Kurdahi" <[email protected]>
"Mark E. Taylor" <[email protected]>
"Tom A. Heynemann" <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]> (Lansing D. Pickup)
[email protected]
Ahmed Al-Ashabb <[email protected]>
Andy Carpenter <[email protected]>
Chi-Kai Chien <[email protected]>
Christopher Ward <[email protected]>
Chuck [email protected]
Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]>
Endric Schubert <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Hardcore Alaskan <[email protected]>
Haroon Rafique <[email protected]>
Jean-Claude Dufourd <[email protected]>
Jessica Ma <[email protected]>
Jim Garside <[email protected]puter-science.manchester.ac.uk>
Joe Leon Guerrero <[email protected]>
Kevin Chung <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Linda Brackenbury <[email protected]>
Maldoror <[email protected]>
Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]>
Mark pettigrew <[email protected]>
Murray Nesbitt <pseudo!mjn>
Nigel Paver <[email protected]>
Nousiainen Juha Antti <[email protected]>
Paul Day (Furber ra) <[email protected]>
Paul Garnett PhD <[email protected]>
Phil Endecott <[email protected]>
Rahul Mehra <[email protected]>
Rob Knauerhase <[email protected]>
Robert Kelly <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Sabih Gerez)
Sanjiv Narayan <[email protected]>
Shiv Sikand <[email protected]>
Sri-Krishna Aditya <[email protected]>
Stephen Furber <[email protected]>
Steve Temple <[email protected]>
Vijay Madisetti <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Arthur C. Adams)
[email protected] (Baehler Pierre)
[email protected] (Derek Beatty)
[email protected] (Bill Oldfield)
[email protected]
chi (Keh-Fan Chi)
[email protected] (Chris Marble)
[email protected] (Steve Coffin)
[email protected] (James H Lee)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Darryl Greco)
[email protected] (David Howard)
[email protected] (MARK INDOVINA Xxxxx Ppppp)
[email protected] (Julian Fields 70160)
[email protected] (Frans Theeuwen u.d.)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Graham Budd)
[email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
guthrie (Karen Guthrie)
[email protected] (B.J.)
[email protected] (Herbert M Petro)
[email protected] (Harry Oldham)
[email protected] (John Biggs)
[email protected] (John Biggs)
[email protected] (Joe Eury)
[email protected] (James Kim)
[email protected] (Larry Pearlstein)
[email protected] (Lynn Robinson)
[email protected] (Mark Watts)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Michel Berkelaar iopic)
[email protected] (Nick Michell)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Mark "The Vernmeister" Vernon)
[email protected] (Alan Nakamoto)
[email protected] (Naren Bala)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Paul D. Israelsen)
[email protected] (Joel Plutchak)
[email protected] (Douglas Quist)
[email protected] (Raj Singh)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
[email protected] (Randy Tietz)
[email protected] (Venugopal Sanaka)
[email protected] (Steve Golson)
[email protected] (Tom Anderson)
[email protected] (Thomas Arneberg  {x66642 CF/DEV})
[email protected]
[email protected] (Chuck Linsley)
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From [email protected] Fri Jun 11 15:56:38 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Lloyd C. Cha <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mentor,comp.cad.cadence,comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl,alt.sys.intergraph
Subject: RESULT: comp.cad.compass passes 146:27
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 11 Jun 1993 15:13:20 -0400
Organization: Rockwell International, Newport Beach, CA
Lines: 197
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Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Final vote acknowledgement and results for creation of comp.cad.compass

Results:
--------

   The proposal to create comp.cad.compass PASSES
   ==============================================   

   YES           146  84.4%      ( > 2/3 of total vote)
    NO            27  15.6%
                 ---
   TOTAL         173     
   YES/NO DIFF  +119             ( > 100 votes differential)

The voting period was from May 10 through June 10, 1993.


The following people voted YES - for the creation of comp.cad.compass
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahmed Al-Ashabb                [email protected]                       
Alan Nakamoto                  [email protected]            
Alex Silbey                    [email protected]                   
Amy Streich                    [email protected]
Andreas Braukmann              [email protected]
Andy Carpenter                 [email protected]       
Anne-Marie TRULLEMANS-ANCKAERT [email protected]
Arnold Muralt                  [email protected]                        
B.J.                           [email protected]              
Babak Shakib                   [email protected]     
Baehler Pierre                 [email protected]                     
Bernadete A.L. Oliveira        TBBERNADETE%[email protected] 
Bill Oldfield                  [email protected]                        
Bing Yup                       [email protected]              
Binh Uong                      [email protected]                       
Brett W. Attaway               [email protected]                     
Bruce Seiler                   [email protected]
Camille Kokozaki               [email protected]  
Charles Sgammato               [email protected]                   
Chi-Kai Chien                  [email protected]                   
Chris Gray                     [email protected]                 
Chuck Linsley                  [email protected]     
Chuck Wilson                   Chuck [email protected]
Claude VanHam                  [email protected]                 
Cynthia Liebeck                [email protected]  
Daniel Clark                   [email protected]                       
Daniel D. Harmon               [email protected]                   
Darryl Greco                   [email protected]                            
David Howard                   [email protected]                         
David Kliment                  [email protected]                      
David Roff                     [email protected]                     
David Spaniol                  [email protected]          
Dennis Moder                   [email protected]                  
Derwin Mattos                  [email protected]                    
Dick Ulmer                     [email protected]     
Doug Snyder                    [email protected]                       
Douglas Kay                    [email protected]                   
Douglas Quist                  [email protected]                      
DuWayne Jilek                  [email protected]
Duane Edgington                [email protected]                         
Egan, Vince                    [email protected]             
Fadi J. Kurdahi                [email protected]                          
Frans Theeuwen u.d.            [email protected]                          
Gary Kopff                     [email protected]                  
Graham Budd                    [email protected]                           
Gregory G. Woodbury            [email protected]                      
Sean P. Ryan                   [email protected]                       
Haroon Rafique                 [email protected]               
Harry Oldham                   [email protected]                         
Henk Smit                      [email protected]                        
Henry Ting                     [email protected]                 
Jacques S. Louvet              [email protected]
James A. Thorne                [email protected]                     
James G Swift                  [email protected]                 
James H Lee                    [email protected]          
James Kim                      [email protected]                                
Jean-Claude Dufourd            [email protected]                         
Jeff Winston                   [email protected]                        
Jeff Winston                   [email protected]                        
Jessica Ma                     [email protected]                    
Jim Garside                    [email protected]        
Jim McClure                    [email protected]                      
Joe Eury                       [email protected]                  
Joe Leon Guerrero              [email protected]                           
John Biggs                     [email protected]                          
John D. Lofgren                [email protected]                    
John Williams                  [email protected]                  
Jonathan B. Wood               [email protected]                    
Karen Guthrie                  [email protected]                      
Keh-Fan Chi                    [email protected]                          
Ken McKnight                   [email protected]                         
Kent Ulrich                    [email protected]                     
Kirk Anderson                  [email protected]                   
Koen Lampaert                  [email protected]
L T Andrew Lin                 [email protected]                          
Lansing D. Pickup              [email protected]                         
Larry Pearlstein               [email protected]                      
Linda Brackenbury              [email protected]      
Lynn Robinson                  [email protected]                          
MARK INDOVINA Xxxxx Ppppp      [email protected]                          
Maldoror                       [email protected]                         
Mark "The Vernmeister" Vernon  [email protected]                           
Mark E. Taylor                 [email protected]                          
Mark Watts                     [email protected]                           
Mark pettigrew                 [email protected]                
Michael Smith                  [email protected]                 
Michel Berkelaar iopic         [email protected]                         
Mike Limke                     [email protected]
Mike May ~                     [email protected]                           
Mike Rockenhauser              [email protected]       
Mitch Stones                   [email protected]             
Moazzem Hossain                [email protected]                       
Naren Bala                     [email protected]                     
Nick Michell                   [email protected]                   
Nigel Paver                    [email protected]                          
NormanThompson                 [email protected]    
Pablo Perez Trabado            [email protected]                       
Pah                            [email protected]
Patrick Garda                  [email protected]
Paul D. Israelsen              [email protected]                          
Paul Day (Furber ra)           [email protected]       
Paul Garnett PhD               [email protected]    
Phil Endecott                  [email protected]   
Prasad Sakhamuri               [email protected]                
Rahul Mehra                    [email protected]                          
Raj Singh                      [email protected]
Rajive Dhar                    [email protected]               
Ralph Heron                    [email protected]   
Randy Tietz                    [email protected]           
Richard Fall                   [email protected]                        
Robert Kelly                   [email protected]    
Ron Dean                       [email protected]
Ron Spillman                   rrl!spillman                                 
Rosana                         CICERON%[email protected]
Ryan C Kearny                  [email protected]               
Sabih Gerez                    [email protected]                      
Sanjiv Narayan                 [email protected]                          
Scott Stratmoen                [email protected]                
Shiv Sikand                    [email protected]       
Simon Szeto                    [email protected]   
Sri-Krishna Aditya             [email protected]                             
Stefan                         [email protected]                        
Stephen Furber                 [email protected]    
Steve Coffin                   [email protected]                          
Steve Madsen                   [email protected] 
Steve Temple                   [email protected]    
Steven Shutt                   [email protected]                        
Sudhakar Jilla                 [email protected]                   
Sung-Hun Oh                    [email protected]              
Thomas Arneberg                [email protected]                        
Tian Yang                      [email protected]                 
Tim (T.J.) Rahrer              [email protected]                                
Tim Berke                      [email protected]                    
Tom A. Heynemann               [email protected]                        
Tom Anderson                   [email protected]                                  
Uday Kurkure                   [email protected]                         
Venugopal Sanaka               [email protected]                
Vijay Madisetti                [email protected]                         
W. Scott Rice                  [email protected]                    
William Tyler                  [email protected]                       
scott applebaum                [email protected]  
                               CIALBERTO%[email protected]
                               RRVIANNA%[email protected]
                               [email protected]
                               [email protected]
                               unix386!davidyc
                               [email protected]               


The following people voted NO  - against the creation of comp.cad.compass
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Arthur C. Adams                [email protected]                      
Chris Marble                   [email protected]            
Christopher Ward               [email protected]
Derek Beatty                   [email protected]           
Elliotte Rusty Harold          [email protected]
Endric Schubert                [email protected]
Eric J. Olson                  [email protected]
Ernest A. Cline                [email protected]
Georg Schwarz                  [email protected]
Glenn Jennings                 [email protected]
Herbert M Petro                [email protected]                 
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a     [email protected]
Joel Plutchak                  [email protected]           
Julian Fields 70160            [email protected]                  
Julian Macassey                [email protected]                   
Kevin Chung                    [email protected]
M. Power                       [email protected]                  
Marc Moorcroft                 [email protected]
Murray Nesbitt                 pseudo!mjn
Nousiainen Juha Antti          [email protected]
Richard H. Miller              [email protected]            
Rob Knauerhase                 [email protected]
Shane Hartman                  [email protected]
Steve Golson                   [email protected]                   
Steve Rogers                   [email protected]                     
Tom Fuhrman                    [email protected]               
Vagrant                        [email protected]

 
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