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Cell Relay ( comp.dcom.cell-relay )
 
From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:38:01 1992
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From: Allen Robel <[email protected]>
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.dcom.cell-relay
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: UUNET Communications Services
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:25:03 GMT
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This is the 2nd CFV to create the newsgroup comp.dcom.cell-relay.
Included are the original CFV and an acknowledgement of votes
received as of 8:10 EST, April 9, 1992.

NAME: 

          comp.dcom.cell-relay

STATUS:
          unmoderated


DESCRIPTION:

	  Forum for discussion of Cell Relay based networks


CHARTER:

     To provide a forum for the submission of articles and inquiries
dealing with networks using Cell Relay as a transport; including
local, metropolitan, and wide area networks.  For the purposes of this
group, the term "cell" is taken to mean a small, fixed-sized,
information-bearing unit that provides the foundation for transport
and multiplexing of a wide range of user traffic types; each of which
may require varying grades of service (e.g. bounds on delay variance).
Examples of user traffic that might be accomodated by a Cell Relay
network include voice (sound), video, and data.  A specific example of
a cell-based technology is Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM).  Examples
of networks or services that will use Cell-Relay based technology
include Broadband Integrated Services Digital Network (B-ISDN),
Distributed Queue Dual Bus (DQDB), Switched Multimegabit Data Service
(SMDS based on DQDB).  In addition, it is expected that "raw"
ATM-based local area networks will become widespread.

The inclusion of "cell-relay" in the group's name was purposeful
in that it is intended to distinguish this technology from that
used in other high-speed networks e.g. FDDI, 45Mb/s Frame-Relay.

Posts of the following types are expected:

o  Any and all questions concerning these technologies
o  User experiences with Cell Relay based networks
o  Announcements of conferences, conventions, etc.
o  Product descriptions
o  Applications made possible by this technology
o  News of public service offerings
o  Research findings
o  Conjecture as to the future of Cell Relay based technology
   (e.g. time frames, projected costs, etc.)

though this is not intended to be an exhaustive list.

This list is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, though it seems reasonable to relate news pertaining to the
progress of recognized standards bodies.

It is fully expected that the range of discussion will quickly result
in the need for an expanded hierarchy under comp.dcom.cell-relay.  We
will cross that bridge when we get to it and use experience gained in
this forum to proceed.

VOTES:
-----

ONLY VOTES RECEIVED BY MAY 1, 23:59 Central Standard Time
WILL BE COUNTED

TO VOTE YES: send mail to [email protected] with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote YES to  
comp.dcom.cell-relay."

TO VOTE NO: send mail to [email protected] with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote NO to  
comp.dcom.cell-relay."

Only votes mailed to the above addresses will be counted.  Ambiguous
votes or votes with qualifications ("I would vote yes for
comp.dcom.cell-relay provided that...") will not be counted.  In the
case of multiple votes from a given person, only the last will be
counted.

If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send
mail to [email protected]  Actual votes mailed to that
address will not be counted.

OTHER
-----

Since I am acting both as the proposer and vote-taker for this group,
and since there has been discussion in news.groups on appropriate
behavior of someone in my position, I hereby give notice that until
the end of the voting period I will not engage in any discussion of
comp.dcom.cell-relay that requires me to express my opinions, nor will
I send any mail campaigning for votes to be sent other than the
periodic repetitions of this post that will be sent during the voting
period.  I do intend to send this CFV as a direct mailing to all
persons I am aware of who have expressed either support or opposition
to this group during the discussion period.

This Call For Votes, along with acknowledgements of votes received
will be posted several times throughout the voting period.

Acknowledgement of votes received as of 8:10 EST, April 9, 1992.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Both YES and NO votes are combined and sorted below.

 - Sites that arrived via UUCP should scan the list for their
   path to me. e.g.  
[email protected] 

   will appear under the lowercase "r" section of the list.

 - Be mindful of the the various header formats when scanning the
   list for your vote.  You may not be listed where you expect to be. 


"(Andre Wiesel)" <[email protected]>
"Albert E. Schindler" <[email protected]>
"Gerard V. Talatinian"  <[email protected]>
"Jacob Levanon - Network Applications/812 855-2598"  
<[email protected]>
"Larry Hughes" <[email protected]>
(Albert Steiner) [email protected]
Amalendu Parasnis <[email protected]>
Andrew Schmidt <[email protected]>
Andy Malis <[email protected]>
Barry (B.) Hagglund <[email protected]>
Bengt Larsson <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Carl Rigney <[email protected]>
Carl Symborski <[email protected]>
Christopher Johnson <[email protected]>
Claudia Jordan <[email protected]>
Clive Carter <[email protected]>
Geoffrey McKim <[email protected]>
Greg Brewster <[email protected]>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <[email protected]>
[email protected]
J Paul Holbrook <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Jerry Scharf <[email protected]>
Jim Frimmel <[email protected]>
[email protected]
John G Dobnick <[email protected]>
Jon Saunders <[email protected]>
Juha Heinanen <[email protected]>
Ken (K.G.) Hayward <[email protected]>
Ken (K.G.) Smith <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Kjetil Otter Olsen)
[email protected]
Lance Speelmon <[email protected]>
Lup Houh Ng  <[email protected]>
Maxime Taksar <[email protected]>
Michael Unneb{ck <[email protected]>
Noelan Olson <[email protected]>
Richard T Wurth <[email protected]>
Ron Rusnak <[email protected]>
Ronnie Kon <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Geoff Peck)
Steinar Kj{rnsr|d <[email protected]>
Thomas Brunner <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Wilson)
[email protected] (Asit Trivedi)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Torsten Braun,  
Institute of Telematics, University of Karlsruhe)
[email protected] (Brian Smithson)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Chris A. Wilcox)
[email protected]
[email protected] (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
[email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
[email protected] (C. Harald Koch)
[email protected]
[email protected] (cjrivera)
[email protected] (Clare Chu Ayala)
[email protected] (Craig Hansen)
[email protected] (Iqbal Husain)
[email protected] (Christian Schneider)
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
[email protected] (Laurent Dairaine)
[email protected] (Donald H. Locker)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Dominique DUBOIS)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Steve Elias)
[email protected]
[email protected] (George Marshall)
[email protected] (Grenville Armitage)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (James Flowers)
[email protected] (James Watt)
[email protected] (Jan B Larsen)
[email protected] (Jose Diaz-Gonzalez)
john stigall <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Rolf Hahn)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Larry Pearlstein)
[email protected] (Line Steinbakk)
mak@eemips.tamu.edu (Albert Mak)
malexand%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
mian@nynexst.com (Athar Mian)
mikec@tcs.com (Mike Curry)
msn@mtung.att.com (Matthew S Nelson)
mtgzfs3!mtgzy!dvogel@mtgzy.att.com
mwr@eng.tridom.com (Mark Reardon)
parasite@Athena.MIT.EDU
pwilson@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Paul Wilson(Toronto))
ram@nynexst.com (Ram Ramachandran)
rdk@cc.gatech.edu (Bobby Krupczak)
rdr@alliant.com (Roger D. Roles)
reidk@skorpio.usask.ca (Karen Reid)
reilly@cradle.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
rhb@mstr.hgc.edu (Roger H. Brown)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robert_d_vernon@indiana.edu
rrt@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Dave  
Roberts)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!cdyer@iuvax.cs.indiana. 
edu (Charles Dyer)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!des@iuvax.cs.indiana.ed 
u (Des Young)
sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler)
schmitt@herring.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
sjl@glensjl.glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
stelios pavlides <sap@crosfield.co.uk>
sullivan@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
sybase!donp@Sun.COM (Don Proctor)
takekosh@girtab.usc.edu (Tetsu Takekoshi)
tim@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Tim Moors)
timo sinkkila <sinkkila@cernvax.cern.ch>
tmaufer@rocinante.gsfc.nasa.gov (Thomas A. Maufer)
tone@volven.nta.no (Tone Ingvaldsen)
turner@gdc.com (Bill Turner)
william@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
wp16@prism.gatech.edu (William E. Price)
yoram@FibHaifa.com (Yoram Rimoni)
-- 
Allen Robel                         robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu 
University Computing Services       ROBELR@IUJADE.BITNET 
Network Research & Planning         voice: (812)855-7171
Indiana University                  FAX:   (812)855-8299

From robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu Fri Apr 24 13:58:50 1992
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From: Allen Robel <robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.dcom.cell-relay
Message-ID: <1992Apr24.144023.29707@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: University Computing Services, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1992 14:40:23 GMT
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Lines: 296

3rd AND FINAL CALL FOR VOTES AND VOTE ACK for comp.dcom.cell-relay
------------------------------------------------------------------

This is the 3rd and final CFV to create the newsgroup 

comp.dcom.cell-relay.  Included are the original CFV and an 

acknowledgement of votes received thus far.

NAME: 

          comp.dcom.cell-relay

STATUS:
          unmoderated


DESCRIPTION:

	  Forum for discussion of Cell Relay based networks


CHARTER:

     To provide a forum for the submission of articles and inquiries
dealing with networks using Cell Relay as a transport; including local, 
metropolitan, and wide area networks.  For the purposes of this group, the 
term "cell" is taken to mean a small, fixed-sized, information-bearing 
unit that provides the foundation for transport and multiplexing of
a wide range of user traffic types; each of which may require varying 
grades of service (e.g. bounds on delay variance).  Examples of user traffic
that might be accomodated by a Cell Relay network include voice (sound), 
video, and data.  A specific example of a cell-based technology is 
Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM).  Examples of networks or services
that will use Cell-Relay based technology include Broadband Integrated
Services Digital Network (B-ISDN), Distributed Queue Dual Bus (DQDB),
Switched Multimegabit Data Service (SMDS based on DQDB).  In addition,
it is expected that "raw" ATM-based local area networks will become
widespread.

The inclusion of "cell-relay" in the group's name was purposeful
in that it is intended to distinguish this technology from that
used in other high-speed networks e.g. FDDI, 45Mb/s Frame-Relay.

Posts of the following types are expected:

o  Any and all questions concerning these technologies
o  User experiences with Cell Relay based networks
o  Announcements of conferences, conventions, etc.
o  Product descriptions
o  Applications made possible by this technology
o  News of public service offerings
o  Research findings
o  Conjecture as to the future of Cell Relay based technology
   (e.g. time frames, projected costs, etc.)

though this is not intended to be an exhaustive list.

This list is not intended to be a forum in which standards are developed,
though it seems reasonable to relate news pertaining to the progress of 
recognized standards bodies.

It is fully expected that the range of discussion will quickly result in 
the need for an expanded hierarchy under comp.dcom.cell-relay.  We will
cross that bridge when we get to it and use experience gained in this
forum to proceed.

VOTES:
-----

ONLY VOTES RECEIVED BY MAY 1, 23:59 Central Standard Time
WILL BE COUNTED

TO VOTE YES: send mail to cell_yes@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote YES to comp.dcom.cell-relay."

TO VOTE NO: send mail to cell_no@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote NO to comp.dcom.cell-relay."

Only votes mailed to the above addresses will be counted.  Ambiguous votes
or votes with qualifications ("I would vote yes for comp.dcom.cell-relay
provided that...") will not be counted.  In the case of multiple votes from
a given person, only the last will be counted.

If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send mail
to cellvote@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu.  Actual votes mailed to that 
address will not be counted.

OTHER
-----

Since I am acting both as the proposer and vote-taker for this group, and
since there has been discussion in news.groups on appropriate behavior
of someone in my position, I hereby give notice that until the end of the 
voting period I will not engage in any discussion of comp.dcom.cell-relay that
requires me to express my opinions, nor will I send any mail campaigning
for votes to be sent other than the periodic repetitions of this post that
will be sent during the voting period.  I do intend to send this CFV as
a direct mailing to all persons I am aware of who have expressed either 
support or opposition to this group during the discussion period.

This Call For Votes, along with acknowledgements of votes received will 
be posted several times throughout the voting period.

Acknowledgement of votes received as of April, 20th 11:15 CDT
-------------------------------------------------------------

Both YES and NO votes are combined and sorted below.

 - Sites that arrived via UUCP should scan the list for their
   path to me. e.g. rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu 

   will appear under the lowercase "r" section of the list.

 - Be mindful of the the various header formats when scanning the
   list for your vote.  You may not be listed where you expect to be. 


"(Andre Wiesel)" <wiesel@ltisun11.epfl.ch>
"Albert E. Schindler" <SHINDLER@uni2a.unige.ch>
"Gerard V. Talatinian"  <GTALATIN@ucslanmail.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Jack Holloway" <holloway@BBN.COM>
"Jacob Levanon - Network Applications/812 855-2598" <levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Larry Hughes" <hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Olav Ingar Lien" <olavl@ifi.uio.no>
(Albert Steiner) a_steiner@nwu.edu
Adam Glass <glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU>
Amalendu Parasnis <ampi@lulea.trab.se>
Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
Andy Lim <a.lim@trl.oz.au>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Barry (B.) Hagglund <BHAGG@BNR.CA>
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Bob.Clegg@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Carl Rigney <cdr@kpc.com>
Carl Symborski <carl@umd5.umd.edu>
Christopher Johnson <chjohnso@us.oracle.com>
Claudia Jordan <cjordan@hopper.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Clive Carter <C.R.Carter@bnr.co.uk>
Geoffrey McKim <mckimg@alienbaby.ucs.indiana.edu>
Greg Brewster <greg@brewster.depaul.edu>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no
Heinzmann Peter <pheinzma@itr.ch>
INEWTON@grad.cis.temple.edu
J Paul Holbrook <holbrook@cic.net>
JJ Lee <jjlee@descartes.waterloo.edu>
Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl
Jerry Scharf <jerry@sfc.Sony.COM>
Jim Frimmel <jim@adaptive.com>
Joe_Massa@3mail.3com.com
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Jon Saunders <jons@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
Juha Heinanen <Juha.Heinanen@funet.fi>
Ken (K.G.) Hayward <CRM57D@BNR.CA>
Ken (K.G.) Smith <KENSMITH@BNR.CA>
Khanh Ly <k.ly@trl.oz.au>
Kjetil.Olsen@usit.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen)
LORENZEN@MANVM2.VNET.IBM.COM
Lance Speelmon <lance@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Lars Kristian Vognild <lars@forit.forut.no>
Lup Houh Ng  <luphouh@engin.umich.edu>
Mark McCutcheon <mjmccut@cs.ubc.ca>
Maxime Taksar <mmt@latour.Berkeley.EDU>
Michael Unneb{ck <mun@lulea.trab.se>
Michael.Rosen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Noelan Olson <noelan@sequent.com>
P.H.A.Venemans@research.ptt.nl (Venemans P.H.A.)
Peter Desnoyers <peterd@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com>
Richard T Wurth <rtw@mtuxj.att.com>
Ron Rusnak <ronr@teddybear.uchicago.edu>
Ronnie Kon <ronnie@cisco.com>
SRGHGCP@gfv.dsir.govt.nz (Geoff Peck)
Steinar Kj{rnsr|d <steinar@ifi.uio.no>
Thomas Brunner <Thomas.Brunner@verw.switch.ch>
Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tom_limoncelli@uunet.UU.NET>
W.Scott.Gerstenberger@um.cc.umich.edu
aig@csfso.fidonet.org (Alan Gilbertson)
amit.shah@amd.com
appgroup@Cadence.COM (John Wilson)
asit@malta.sbi.com (Asit Trivedi)
atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil
bauhaus@Athena.MIT.EDU
berrocal@dit.upm.es
bningle@Athena.MIT.EDU
bolsen@mmni.com (Bob Olsen)
braun@t500m0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Torsten Braun, Institute of Telematics, University of  
Karlsruhe)
brian@grot.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bytex!pond@uunet.UU.NET
cathrine_spiaggia@indiana.edu
cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
cfraizer@argus.ucs.indiana.edu
chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
chris@Solbourne.COM (Chris Horne)
chu@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
cjrivera@licchus1.gatech.edu (cjrivera)
clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
craig@mnemosyne.MicroUnity.com (Craig Hansen)
cres!husain@uunet.UU.NET (Iqbal Husain)
cschneid@pws2.itr.ch (Christian Schneider)
ct@east.hudtech.com (Charles Tarzian)
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
dach@alcbel.be (Dirk Van Achter)
dairaine@masi.ibp.fr (Laurent Dairaine)
delatizk@BBN.COM
dhl@msl.com (Donald H. Locker)
dsiinc!rem@uunet.uu.net
dubois@masi.ibp.fr (Dominique DUBOIS)
dwong@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Wong)
ed_stockey@indiana.edu
ejfuria@marmoset.ucs.indiana.edu
eli@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Steve Elias)
ellis@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
fdida@masi.ibp.fr (Serge FDIDA)
george@netcom.com (George Marshall)
gja@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Grenville Armitage)
gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
herbert@mayall.prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus)
hoffman@tesuji.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
holm@mprgate.mpr.ca (Terrence W. Holm)
jaflow@nynexst.com (James Flowers)
james@thor.Newbridge.COM (James Watt)
jblst5@lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
jdg0@gte.com (Jose Diaz-Gonzalez)
jjk@cs.tut.fi (Karttunen Jari Juha)
jliv@slug.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Loiacono IV)
jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
john stigall <stigall@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
jvt@dit.upm.es
kentrox!ktxs8!rolf@uunet.UU.NET (Rolf Hahn)
keshav@research.att.com
kjtakeko@Athena.MIT.EDU
lap@sol.asl.hitachi.com (Larry Pearlstein)
line@forit.forut.no (Line Steinbakk)
mak@eemips.tamu.edu (Albert Mak)
malexand%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
mian@nynexst.com (Athar Mian)
mikec@tcs.com (Mike Curry)
msn@mtung.att.com (Matthew S Nelson)
mtgzfs3!mtgzy!dvogel@mtgzy.att.com
mwr@eng.tridom.com (Mark Reardon)
olho@maldata.se (Ola Holmberg)
parasite@Athena.MIT.EDU
pep@pavnet.pcn.org (Phil Pavarini Jr.)
pwilson@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Paul Wilson(Toronto))
ram@nynexst.com (Ram Ramachandran)
rdk@cc.gatech.edu (Bobby Krupczak)
rdr@alliant.com (Roger D. Roles)
reidk@skorpio.usask.ca (Karen Reid)
reilly@cradle.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
rhb@mstr.hgc.edu (Roger H. Brown)
richardb@trwind.trw.com (Richard Brehove)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robert_d_vernon@indiana.edu
roethig@t500e0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Juergen Roethig)
ronald@ixstar.att.com (Ronald H Davis +1 708 979 1720)
rrt@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Dave Roberts)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!cdyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles Dyer)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!des@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Des Young)
sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler)
schmitt@herring.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
sg04%ploni@gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
sjl@glensjl.glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
stelios pavlides <sap@crosfield.co.uk>
sullivan@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
sybase!donp@Sun.COM (Don Proctor)
takekosh@girtab.usc.edu (Tetsu Takekoshi)
thomas@lkg.dec.com (Matt Thomas)
tim@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Tim Moors)
timo sinkkila <sinkkila@cernvax.cern.ch>
tmaufer@rocinante.gsfc.nasa.gov (Thomas A. Maufer)
tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
tone@volven.nta.no (Tone Ingvaldsen)
turner@gdc.com (Bill Turner)
uusitalo@ressu.cc.tut.fi (Mika Uusitalo)
wiljo@freeside.ki.open.de (Wiljo Heinen)
william@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
wp16@prism.gatech.edu (William E. Price)
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yoram@FibHaifa.com (Yoram Rimoni)
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From robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu Tue May  5 12:07:04 1992
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From: Allen Robel <robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: RESULT:  comp.dcom.cell-relay passes 220: 11
Message-ID: <1992May5.155455.20096@uunet.uu.net>
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Voting on the proposed creation of comp.dcom.cell-relay has 

ended as of 5/1/92.  


Voting Summary:     YES   NO
                    ---   ---
                    220   11

According to the Usenet criteria, both a 2/3 majority and 100 more yes votes 

than no votes are required for group creation.  Using these criteria, this
forum has passed and should be created.

I have inspected the votes to the best of my ability and found four duplicate 

YES votes, which have been removed. No one changed their mind and switched 

votes.

After the 5 day waiting period, barring serious objection, 

comp.dcom.cell-relay should be newgrouped and appear at your site.

Many thanks to all who participated.

YES votes
---------

1 	"(Andre Wiesel)" <wiesel@ltisun11.epfl.ch>
2 	"Albert E. Schindler" <SHINDLER@uni2a.unige.ch>
3 	"Bill Bergman" <BERGMAN@RALVMG.VNET.IBM.COM>
4 	"Gary J. Minden" <gminden@boole.tisl.ukans.edu>
5 	"Gerard V. Talatinian"  <GTALATIN@ucslanmail.ucs.indiana.edu>
6 	"Jack Holloway" <holloway@BBN.COM>
7 	"Jacob Levanon - Network Applications/812 855-2598"  
<levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu>
8	"Larry Hughes" <hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu>
9 	"Michael A. Pagels" <pagels@cs.arizona.edu>
10	"Olav Ingar Lien" <olavl@ifi.uio.no>
11	(Albert Steiner) a_steiner@nwu.edu
12	Adam Glass <glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU>
13	Amalendu Parasnis <ampi@lulea.trab.se>
14	Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
15	Andy Lim <a.lim@trl.oz.au>
16	Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
17	Ashim Roy G'town x 5649 <AROY@LANDO.HNS.COM>
18	BLANCHARD@TETHYS.UCC.UMASS.EDU
19	Barry (B.) Hagglund <BHAGG@BNR.CA>
20	Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
21	Bob.Clegg@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
22	Bruce Orchard <orchard@punch.engr.wisc.edu>
23	Carl Symborski <carl@umd5.umd.edu>
24	Christophe Wolfhugel <Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr>
25	Christopher Johnson <chjohnso@us.oracle.com>
26	Claudia Jordan <cjordan@hopper.acs.ohio-state.edu>
27	Clive Carter <C.R.Carter@bnr.co.uk>
28	Craig Partridge <craig@aland.bbn.com>
29	Danny Padwa <PADWA@HUSC15.HARVARD.EDU>
30	Derek McAuley <Derek.McAuley@cl.cam.ac.uk>
31	Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu (Don Deal)
32	Don_Bellenger@3mail.3com.com
33	Evan Gamblin <0001847804@mcimail.com>
34	Geoffrey McKim <mckimg@alienbaby.ucs.indiana.edu>
35	George (G.D.) Stuart <GDSTUART@BNR.CA>
36	Greg Brewster <greg@brewster.depaul.edu>
37	Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no
38	Heinzmann Peter <pheinzma@itr.ch>
39	I.Wakeman@cs.ucl.ac.uk
40	INEWTON@grad.cis.temple.edu
41	J Paul Holbrook <holbrook@cic.net>
42	JJ Lee <jjlee@descartes.waterloo.edu>
43	Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl
44	Jerry Scharf <jerry@sfc.Sony.COM>
45	Jim Frimmel <jim@adaptive.com>
46	Joe_Massa@3mail.3com.com
47	Jon Dunn <jwd@phil.indiana.edu>
48	Jon Saunders <jons@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
49	Juan Martins <Juan_Martins@deqm.epfl.ch>
50	Juha Heinanen <Juha.Heinanen@funet.fi>
51	Ken (K.G.) Hayward <CRM57D@BNR.CA>
52	Ken (K.G.) Smith <KENSMITH@BNR.CA>
53	Khanh Ly <k.ly@trl.oz.au>
54	Kjetil.Olsen@usit.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen)
55	Klaus Fosmark <kfo@ne.dk>
56	LORENZEN@MANVM2.VNET.IBM.COM
57	Lance Speelmon <lance@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
58	Lars Kristian Vognild <lars@forit.forut.no>
59	Lup Houh Ng  <luphouh@engin.umich.edu>
60	MCV Subramaniam <subbu@hpindlm.cup.hp.com>
61	Maarten van Wijk <Maarten.vanWijk@kub.nl>
62	Marc Gumbold <marc@uni-paderborn.de>
63	Mark McCutcheon <mjmccut@cs.ubc.ca>
64	Martin Hunt <martinh@cac.washington.edu>
65	Maxime Taksar <mmt@latour.Berkeley.EDU>
66	Michael Unneb{ck <mun@lulea.trab.se>
67	Michael.Rosen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
68	Mike Goguen <goguen@src.dec.com>
69	Noelan Olson <noelan@sequent.com>
70	P.H.A.Venemans@research.ptt.nl (Venemans P.H.A.)
71	Peter Desnoyers <peterd@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com>
72	Richard T Wurth <rtw@mtuxj.att.com>
73	Rod.Holland@East.Sun.COM (Rod Holland - Sun BOS Software)
74	Ron Rusnak <ronr@teddybear.uchicago.edu>
75	Ronnie Kon <ronnie@cisco.com>
76	SRGHGCP@gfv.dsir.govt.nz (Geoff Peck)
77	Sanderson_Don <sander@sceng.UB.com>
78	Stan Adams <adams@trantor.harris-atd.com>
79	Steinar Kj{rnsr|d <steinar@ifi.uio.no>
80	Telogy.Networks@uu2.psi.com, Inc. <billw@telogy.com>
81	Thomas Brunner <Thomas.Brunner@verw.switch.ch>
82	Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tom_limoncelli@uunet.UU.NET>
83	Tracy Mallory <tmallory@BBN.COM>
84	W.Scott.Gerstenberger@um.cc.umich.edu
85	aig@csfso.fidonet.org (Alan Gilbertson)
86	alanj@endeavor18.wv.tek.com
87	amit.shah@amd.com
88	appgroup@Cadence.COM (John Wilson)
89	asit@malta.sbi.com (Asit Trivedi)
90	aura@tele.fi (Arto Urataipale)
91	bauhaus@Athena.MIT.EDU
92	bbanh@otc.research.otca.oz.au (Bui Anh Jonathan Banh)
93	berrocal@dit.upm.es
94	bningle@Athena.MIT.EDU
95	bobt@zeus.net.com (Bob Tykulsker)
96	bolsen@mmni.com (Bob Olsen)
97	braun@t500m0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Torsten Braun, Institute of  
Telematics, University of Karlsruhe)
98	brian@grot.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
99	bytex!joe@uunet.UU.NET (Joe Massery @fs000)
100	bytex!pond@uunet.UU.NET
101	cathrine_spiaggia@indiana.edu
102	cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
103	cfraizer@argus.ucs.indiana.edu
104	chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
105	chris@Solbourne.COM (Chris Horne)
106	christen@hpspkld.spk.hp.com (Tim Christensen)
107	chu@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
108	cjrivera@licchus1.gatech.edu (cjrivera)
109	clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
110	craig@mnemosyne.MicroUnity.com (Craig Hansen)
111	cres!husain@uunet.UU.NET (Iqbal Husain)
112	cschneid@pws2.itr.ch (Christian Schneider)
113	ct@east.hudtech.com (Charles Tarzian)
114	dach@alcbel.be (Dirk Van Achter)
115	dairaine@masi.ibp.fr (Laurent Dairaine)
116	delatizk@BBN.COM
117	dhl@msl.com (Donald H. Locker)
118	dsiinc!rem@uunet.uu.net
119	dubois@masi.ibp.fr (Dominique DUBOIS)
120	dwong@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Wong)
121	ed_stockey@indiana.edu
122	ejfuria@marmoset.ucs.indiana.edu
123	eli@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Steve Elias)
124	ellis@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
125	fdida@masi.ibp.fr (Serge FDIDA)
126	george@netcom.com (George Marshall)
127	gja@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Grenville Armitage)
128	goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com (k1io, FN42jk)
129	h@MicroUnity.com (Jack Holloway)
130	heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
131	herbert@mayall.prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus)
132	hoffman@tesuji.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
133	holm@mprgate.mpr.ca (Terrence W. Holm)
134	inder@bu-pub.bu.edu
135	jaflow@nynexst.com (James Flowers)
136	james@thor.Newbridge.COM (James Watt)
137	jblst5@lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
138	jdg0@gte.com (Jose Diaz-Gonzalez)
139	jerian@src.dec.com (Chuck Jerian)
140	jjk@cs.tut.fi (Karttunen Jari Juha)
141	jkay@cs.UCSD.EDU (Jon Kay)
142	jliv@slug.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Loiacono IV)
143	jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
144	john stigall <stigall@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
145	johnc@msc.edu (John D. Cavanaugh)
146	joshi@graphics.cs.qc.edu (prashant joshi)
147	jvt@dit.upm.es
148	jye@hls.com (Jingdong Ye)
149	kentrox!ktxs8!rolf@uunet.UU.NET (Rolf Hahn)
150	keshav@research.att.com
151	kjtakeko@Athena.MIT.EDU
152	lap@sol.asl.hitachi.com (Larry Pearlstein)
153	laube@BBN.COM
154	lidl@Pix.COM (Kurt J. Lidl)
155	line@forit.forut.no (Line Steinbakk)
156	maclean@ctt.bellcore.com (Andrew MacLean)
157	mak@eemips.tamu.edu (Albert Mak)
158	malexand%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
159	matwood%peruvian@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
160	mian@nynexst.com (Athar Mian)
161	mikec@tcs.com (Mike Curry)
162	mks@msc.edu (Mike Spengler)
163	msn@mtung.att.com (Matthew S Nelson)
164	mtgzfs3!mtgzy!dvogel@mtgzy.att.com
165	mwr@eng.tridom.com (Mark Reardon)
166	mxs@ginsu9.bellcore.com
167	olho@maldata.se (Ola Holmberg)
168	ooi@dawn400a.hpl.hp.com
169	parasite@Athena.MIT.EDU
170	pep@pavnet.pcn.org (Phil Pavarini Jr.)
171	pwilson@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Paul Wilson(Toronto))
172	raj@hptnjar.cup.hp.com
173	ram@nynexst.com (Ram Ramachandran)
174	rdk@cc.gatech.edu (Bobby Krupczak)
175	rdr@alliant.com (Roger D. Roles)
176	rds@fore.com (Robert Sansom)
177	reed@digital.sps.mot.com
178	reidk@skorpio.usask.ca (Karen Reid)
179	reilly@cradle.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
180	rhb@mstr.hgc.edu (Roger H. Brown)
181	richardb@trwind.trw.com (Richard Brehove)
182	rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
183	robert_d_vernon@indiana.edu
184	roethig@t500e0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Juergen Roethig)
185	ronald@ixstar.att.com (Ronald H Davis +1 708 979 1720)
186	rrt@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
187	rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Dave Roberts)
188	rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!cdyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles  
Dyer)
189	rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!des@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Des  
Young)
190	rutgers!ames!pdn.paradyn.com!efwjr@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Ellsworth Warmo)
191	sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler)
192	schmitt@herring.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
193	sg04%ploni@gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
194	sjl@glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
195	smcdowell@exlog.com (Steve McDowell)
196	snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
197	srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
198	ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
199	stelios pavlides <sap@crosfield.co.uk>
200	sullivan@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
201	sybase!donp@Sun.COM (Don Proctor)
202	takekosh@girtab.usc.edu (Tetsu Takekoshi)
203	thomas@lkg.dec.com (Matt Thomas)
204	tim@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Tim Moors)
205	timo sinkkila <sinkkila@cernvax.cern.ch>
206	tmaufer@rocinante.gsfc.nasa.gov (Thomas A. Maufer)
207	tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
208	tomasz@otc.research.otca.oz.au
209	tone@volven.nta.no (Tone Ingvaldsen)
210	turner@gdc.com (Bill Turner)
211	uusitalo@ressu.cc.tut.fi (Mika Uusitalo)
212	wiljo@freeside.ki.open.de (Wiljo Heinen)
213	william@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
214	wiltel!aprasad@uunet.UU.NET
215	wiltel!mott@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Ott)
216	wiltel!sundark@uunet.UU.NET (Sundar Kuttalingam)
217	wp16@prism.gatech.edu (William E. Price)
218	yin@desperado.etdesg.TRW.COM (Ming - Yin 093527 ccC614)
219	yoram@FibHaifa.com (Yoram Rimoni)
220	zorica@sparta.com (Zorica Avramovic)

NO Votes
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1	Benjamin.Fan@bbs.oit.unc.edu
2	Carl Rigney <cdr@kpc.com>
3	Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
4	John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
5	atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil
6	chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
7	chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
8	cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
9	gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
10	mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
11	shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)

 
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