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From [email protected] Fri May 28 16:16:50 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.cell-relay,alt.dcom.telecom,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.frame-relay
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Date: 27 May 1993 17:21:20 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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This is a request for discussion of a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.frame-relay.

Frame Relay is a protocol for sending datagrams ("frames") through
a switched network.  An encapsulation of TCP/IP in this framing
is described in RFC 1294.

The purpose of the group is to exchange information between users
of public Frame Relay services, designers and manufacturers of
customer equipment that speaks the protocol, and comparisons of
this approach to other complementary technologies such as ATM,
PPP over leased lines, and ISDN.

The best mailing lists discussion I have seen have been on the IPLPDN
(IP in Large Public Data Networks) list, but those have been rather
narrowly focussed on implementation details.  A broader list that
included more of a system designer or user point of view should be
useful.

Discussion will take the month of June, and hopefully the vote will
run in July with a group to be created 1 August.

Please forward this as appropriate.

thanks,
-- 
  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. [email protected]
Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562 (fax: 998 4563)

From [email protected] Mon Jan 31 17:17:32 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ed Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.dcom.cell-relay
Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.frame-relay
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Date: 27 Jan 1994 16:45:51 -0500
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This is a request for discussion for a new Usenet newsgroup,
comp.dcom.frame-relay.

Frame Relay networks are defined by CCITT Recommendation Q.922 ("ISDN
Data Link Layer Specification for Frame Mode Bearer Services"), ANSI
T1.618-1991 ("ISDN - Core Aspects of Frame Protocol for Use with Frame
Relay Bearer Service"), and Internet RFC 1490 ("Multiprotocol
Interconnect over Frame Relay").  Frame Relay networks have been
deployed by Internet service providers, inter-exchange telephone
carriers, and local and regional telephone companies.

The objective of the newsgroup is to provide implementors and users of
frame relay with an open forum for the discussion of protocols,
equipment, pricing, service, and other details of access to and
building of frame relay networks.

The group is to be unmoderated.

Voting
------
The hope is to conduct a vote starting on or before 25 February, with
votes to be collected by the Usenet Volunteer Vote-takers.  This is
not the time to send in votes.

Current discussion and rationale
--------------------------------
In the absence of an particular newsgroup for frame relay, this topic
has been brought up in a variety of newsgroups peripheral to the focus
of the proposed group.  In particular, the newsgroups 'comp.dcom.isdn'
and 'comp.dcom.cell-relay' appear to have the substantial
concentration of interested and knowlegable parties.

thanks
-- 
  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. [email protected]
Msen Inc., 320 Miller, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562 (fax: 998 4563)

From [email protected] Wed Jul 20 20:25:50 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Allen Robel)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.frame-relay
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Date: 20 Jul 1994 20:20:04 -0400
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

NEWSGROUP: comp.dcom.frame-relay

UNMODERATED

Crossposted to:
news.groups
news.announce.newgroups 
comp.dcom.cell-relay
comp.dcom.isdn 
comp.dcom.lans.ethernet 
comp.dcom.lans.fddi
comp.dcom.lans.misc
comp.protocols.tcp-ip
bit.listserv.novell

Given that Frame Relay is beginning to emerge as a mainstream WAN
service, and given that discussions of Frame Relay technology are
appearing with increasing frequency on other newsgroups such as
comp.dcom.cell-relay, perhaps now is the time to create a newsgroup to
provide a home for this topic.  Below is a draft charter, written by Tom
Jones, ex-chair of the Frame Relay Forum and continuing proponent of
Frame Relay services and technologies.  It is intended as a starting
point for discussion over the next month as to what shape a
Frame Relay newsgroup might take. Comments are welcome and encouraged.

As per Usenet "policy"/tradition, the following timeline will be adhered to:

7/21/94 - 8/21/94  
Discussion period

8/21/94 - ~9/21/94  
Voting (if it is generally agreed that this group would be a Good Thing).  
We will defer to the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers at Qualcomm to setup and 
conduct the vote.

Below is the proposed charter.  The Followup-To: field has been set to 
news.groups.  Please direct all comments concerning this Request for 
Discussion there.  

DRAFT CHARTER:

To provide a mechanism for the discussion of issues related to the
technology and application of frame relay in communications networks.

Topics expected to be discussed include (but are not limited to) the
following examples:

- frame relay standards and proposed standards
- applications of frame relay
- user experiences with frame relay
- relationship and comparison of frame relay to other technologies,
  including asynchronous transfer mode (ATM), cell relay, SMDS, X.25 packet
  switching, IP routing, ISDN, Broadband ISDN, etc.
- announcements of conferences, seminars, etc., related to frame relay
- news of the availability of frame relay products or services
- testing and interoperability of frame relay
- information related to performance and implementation of frame relay
- research findings
- activities of The Frame Relay Forum and other similar organizations with
  activities related to frame relay
- sources of additional information regarding frame relay

This newsgroup is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, although it may be expected to relate news pertaining to
standards and to the progress of recognized standards bodies.

regards,
-- 
Allen Robel                        Internet: [email protected]
Network Engineer                   voice:    (812)855-0962
Indiana University                 FAX:      (812)855-8299

From [email protected] Fri Aug 19 20:02:44 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Allen Robel)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: 2nd RFD comp.dcom.frame-relay
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Hi,

I have received several direct correspondences indicating support for a
new newsgroup catering to frame-relay.  I was absent during much of the
discussion period though due to a family illness, so if anyone is
adamantly opposed to the creation of this newsgroup, please speak up
now.

Likewise, if there were suggestions for modification of the charter,
please forward them again.

Barring widespread opposition, I propose that we move to begin the
voting period on 8/21/94 and let it run till 9/21/94.  As mentioned
earlier, I will defer to the good folks at Qualcomm to handle the
vote. The CFV will be sent to the newsgroups listed below.  A second
CFV will be sent approximately halfway through the voting period (the
5th or 6th of September).

2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

NEWSGROUP: comp.dcom.frame-relay

UNMODERATED

Crossposted to:
news.groups
news.announce.newgroups
comp.dcom.cell-relay
comp.dcom.isdn
comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
comp.dcom.lans.fddi
comp.dcom.lans.misc
comp.protocols.tcp-ip
bit.listserv.novell

Given that Frame Relay is beginning to emerge as a mainstream WAN
service, and given that discussions of Frame Relay technology are
appearing with increasing frequency on other newsgroups such as
comp.dcom.cell-relay, perhaps now is the time to create a newsgroup
to provide a home for this topic.  Below is a draft charter, written
by Tom Jones, ex-chair of the Frame Relay Forum and continuing
proponent of Frame Relay services and technologies.  It is intended
as a starting point for discussion over the next month as to what
shape a Frame Relay newsgroup might take. Comments are welcome and
encouraged.

As per Usenet "policy"/tradition, the following timeline will be
adhered to:

7/21/94 - 8/21/94
Discussion period

8/21/94 - ~9/21/94
Voting (if it is generally agreed that this group would be a Good
Thing).

We will defer to the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers at Qualcomm to setup
and conduct the vote.

Below is the proposed charter.  The Followup-To: field has been set to
news.groups.  Please direct all comments concerning this Request for
Discussion there.

DRAFT CHARTER:

To provide a mechanism for the discussion of issues related to the
technology and application of frame relay in communications networks.

Topics expected to be discussed include (but are not limited to) the
following examples:

- frame relay standards and proposed standards
- applications of frame relay
- user experiences with frame relay
- relationship and comparison of frame relay to other technologies,
  including asynchronous transfer mode (ATM), cell relay, SMDS, 
  X.25 packet switching, IP routing, ISDN, Broadband ISDN, etc.
- announcements of conferences, seminars, etc., related to frame relay
- news of the availability of frame relay products or services
- testing and interoperability of frame relay
- information related to performance and implementation of frame relay
- research findings
- activities of The Frame Relay Forum and other similar organizations 
  with activities related to frame relay
- sources of additional information regarding frame relay

This newsgroup is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, although it may be expected to relate news pertaining to
standards and to the progress of recognized standards bodies.

regards,
-- 
Allen Robel                        Internet: [email protected]
Network Engineer                   voice:    (812)855-0962
Indiana University                 FAX:      (812)855-8299

From [email protected] Thu Sep  1 11:16:05 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: CFV: comp.dcom.frame-relay
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
	       unmoderated group comp.dcom.frame-relay

Newsgroups line:
comp.dcom.frame-relay	Technology and issues regarding Frame Relay

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>. For questions
about the proposed group please contact Allen Robel <[email protected]>

This CFV is also being sent to the cicso discussion mailing list
[email protected]


CHARTER

To provide a mechanism for the discussion of issues related to the
technology and application of frame relay in communications networks.

Topics expected to be discussed include (but are not limited to) the
following examples:

- frame relay standards and proposed standards
- applications of frame relay
- user experiences with frame relay
- relationship and comparison of frame relay to other technologies,
  including asynchronous transfer mode (ATM), cell relay, SMDS,
  X.25 packet switching, IP routing, ISDN, Broadband ISDN, etc.
- announcements of conferences, seminars, etc., related to frame relay
- news of the availability of frame relay products or services
- testing and interoperability of frame relay
- information related to performance and implementation of frame relay
- research findings
- activities of The Frame Relay Forum and other similar organizations
  with activities related to frame relay
- sources of additional information regarding frame relay

This newsgroup is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, although it may be expected to relate news pertaining to
standards and to the progress of recognized standards bodies.

This list will be gatewayed to the Frame Relay Discussion list
<[email protected]>.


RATIONALE: 
 
Given that Frame Relay is beginning to emerge as a mainstream WAN service,
and given that discussions of Frame Relay technology are appearing with
increasing frequency on other newsgroups such as comp.dcom.cell-relay, it
makes sense at this time to create a newsgroup to provide a home for
discussion of this technology. 


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing
list.

The subject in your mail message must contain the name of the group to
allow your vote to be correctly handled by an automated vote-counter,
if you do not do this you will receive a message asking you to
resubmit your vote with the name of the group that you are voting for
in the subject line.

Please do not quote the entire CFV in your vote, it will confuse the
automatic vote counter and will earn you a duplicate vote message.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.dcom.frame-relay
      I vote NO on comp.dcom.frame-relay

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a
personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your
vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  No votes
will be accepted from system accounts (i.e. root, news, uucp) or
anonymous accounts.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be
published in the final voting results list.
-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From [email protected] Wed Sep 14 14:15:05 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.dcom.frame-relay
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.dcom.frame-relay

Newsgroups line:
comp.dcom.frame-relay   Technology and issues regarding Frame Relay

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>. For questions
about the proposed group please contact Allen Robel <[email protected]>

This CFV is also being sent to the cicso discussion mailing list
[email protected]


CHARTER

To provide a mechanism for the discussion of issues related to the
technology and application of frame relay in communications networks.

Topics expected to be discussed include (but are not limited to) the
following examples:

- frame relay standards and proposed standards
- applications of frame relay
- user experiences with frame relay
- relationship and comparison of frame relay to other technologies,
  including asynchronous transfer mode (ATM), cell relay, SMDS,
  X.25 packet switching, IP routing, ISDN, Broadband ISDN, etc.
- announcements of conferences, seminars, etc., related to frame relay
- news of the availability of frame relay products or services
- testing and interoperability of frame relay
- information related to performance and implementation of frame relay
- research findings
- activities of The Frame Relay Forum and other similar organizations
  with activities related to frame relay
- sources of additional information regarding frame relay

This newsgroup is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, although it may be expected to relate news pertaining to
standards and to the progress of recognized standards bodies.

This list will be gatewayed to the Frame Relay Discussion list
<[email protected]>.


RATIONALE: 
 
Given that Frame Relay is beginning to emerge as a mainstream WAN service,
and given that discussions of Frame Relay technology are appearing with
increasing frequency on other newsgroups such as comp.dcom.cell-relay, it
makes sense at this time to create a newsgroup to provide a home for
discussion of this technology. 


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing
list.

The subject in your mail message must contain the name of the group to
allow your vote to be correctly handled by an automated vote-counter,
if you do not do this you will receive a message asking you to
resubmit your vote with the name of the group that you are voting for
in the subject line.

Please do not quote the entire CFV in your vote, it will confuse the
automatic vote counter and will earn you a duplicate vote message.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.dcom.frame-relay
      I vote NO on comp.dcom.frame-relay

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a
personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your
vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  No votes
will be accepted from system accounts (i.e. root, news, uucp) or
anonymous accounts.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be
published in the final voting results list.

BOUNCED ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:

  [email protected]
  [email protected]
  boemia.pix.com.br!nelson
 	
-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From [email protected] Tue Sep 27 14:16:54 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: RESULT: comp.dcom.frame-relay passes 376:14
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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                               RESULT
            unmoderated group comp.dcom.frame-relay passes 376:14

There were 376 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 390 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 7 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.dcom.frame-relay   Technology and issues regarding Frame Relay

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>. For questions
about the proposed group please contact Allen Robel <[email protected]>

This CFV is also being sent to the cicso discussion mailing list
[email protected]


CHARTER

To provide a mechanism for the discussion of issues related to the
technology and application of frame relay in communications networks.

Topics expected to be discussed include (but are not limited to) the
following examples:

- frame relay standards and proposed standards
- applications of frame relay
- user experiences with frame relay
- relationship and comparison of frame relay to other technologies,
  including asynchronous transfer mode (ATM), cell relay, SMDS,
  X.25 packet switching, IP routing, ISDN, Broadband ISDN, etc.
- announcements of conferences, seminars, etc., related to frame relay
- news of the availability of frame relay products or services
- testing and interoperability of frame relay
- information related to performance and implementation of frame relay
- research findings
- activities of The Frame Relay Forum and other similar organizations
  with activities related to frame relay
- sources of additional information regarding frame relay

This newsgroup is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, although it may be expected to relate news pertaining to
standards and to the progress of recognized standards bodies.

This list will be gatewayed to the Frame Relay Discussion list
<[email protected]>.


RATIONALE: 
 
Given that Frame Relay is beginning to emerge as a mainstream WAN service,
and given that discussions of Frame Relay technology are appearing with
increasing frequency on other newsgroups such as comp.dcom.cell-relay, it
makes sense at this time to create a newsgroup to provide a home for
discussion of this technology. 

comp.dcom.frame-relay Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                         Faunce Shawn
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
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[email protected]                                                   Ed Swenson

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[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS


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[email protected]                                         Craig R. Smythe
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[email protected]                                        Bernard.Guillaumot
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Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
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