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Explorer MVE ( comp.graphics.explorer )
 
From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:09:57 1992
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From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]>
Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.explorer
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Request for Discussion (RFD)
============================

This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named :

		comp.graphics.explorer

What about the discussion ?
===========================
	This discussion will take place in the group :
		news.groups

If you're interested in taking part, this is the place to post to.
If you feel you have any comments, then please try and contribute.

Brief Description of Explorer
=============================
	IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by
SiliconGraphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any traditonal code.

IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and
it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be
ported to several machines in the near future. 

What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter) 
===================================================== 
	Part of the point of this posting is to try and talk over this very
question #:-}

	Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on
all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group
could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch
with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself.

Some Issues
===========
	It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the
possible issues include :
	(1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ?
		- should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or
		comp.sys.sgi.explorer ???
	(2) Is there sufficient interest ??
	(3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? (related to
		point 1)
	(4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ?
		- if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do
		admirably with comp.sys.sgi ?
	(5) Should the group be moderated ?

Other Options
=============
	...include the formation of a mailing list as an interim measure. Is
there any comment/interest in this ?

...and finally
==============
	I feel that Explorer constitutes an important tool for scientists
and engineers. The user-base has the potential to be vast, and indeed should
potentially include ALL SGI customers. 

With such a large potential user base, the scope for questions and
discussion is enormous, and a USENET group for this purpose I think would be
beneficial to users, module writers, and the Explorer developers. This
last group could benefit from immediate feedback from the users, and the
users in turn could feel that they have somewhere to ask questions, and
hopefully increase their productivity.

The mailing list
================
	If there is any interest in an alternative mailing list, could they
please mail the following address :
		[email protected]
i.e. NOT my personal mail address #:-}

Any comments would be useful - please not too many flames :)
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron				Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre		Email: [email protected]

                   oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo

From [email protected] Fri Apr 24 13:56:38 1992
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.cray,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.graphics
From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]>
Subject: RFD:  comp.graphics.explorer
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1992 14:39:55 GMT

       oOo Request For Discusion - comp.graphics.explorer oOo
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named :

                     comp.graphics.explorer

This discussion is to take place in the group news.groups which is an
unmoderated discussion group. Please direct all comments, replies etc.
to this group (crossposted if particularly relevant elsewhere)....

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

What is Explorer ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon
Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code
can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment.

IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines,
and it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment
be ported to several machines in the near future. Currently modules are
also availabe for Cray machines.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

Why Form a Group ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a
mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these
people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may
well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also
interested in the formation of such a group.

(The mailing list may be contacted for further details/subscriptions
etc., at [email protected])

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter) 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on all
matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group could
help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch
with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself.

Perhaps something similar to comp.graphics.avs, or 
comp.soft-sys.khoros.


                          oOo   oOo   oOo

Some Questions
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the
possible issues include :

(1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ?
    - should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or comp.sys.sgi.explorer ?
(2) Is there sufficient interest ?
(3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? 
    (related to point 1)
(4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ?
    - if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do with 
      the mailing list at present?
(5) Should the group be moderated ?

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

Formation of Newsgroup
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If response is favourable, then further details will be posted nearer
the time (to all relevant newsgroups) detailing how people can vote
either for or against the formation

Mailing List
~~~~~~~~~~~~

The mailing list service will be retained regardless, offering a gateway
to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News.
Comments on this to [email protected]

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]
    oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'

From [email protected] Thu May  7 07:26:29 1992
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From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]>
Subject: CFV:  comp.graphics.explorer
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre
Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 06:15:54 GMT
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       oOo Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is an initial call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group

                   comp.graphics.explorer

                        Unmoderated

  Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE)
                      
                 Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron
                   [email protected]
                   (see How to Vote below)

                        oOo   oOo   oOo
Group Charter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon
Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can
be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently
is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on
other platforms in time. 

Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all
matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and
comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good
if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option
to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer
itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working
on future versions of the software.

                        oOo   oOo   oOo
How To Vote
~~~~~~~~~~~
To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either
the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word
YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need
not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in
the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual,
only the last one will be registered.

Example of how to vote
----------------------
	Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer
or,	Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer

Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes
if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by
myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not
count).
The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on
the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored.

                        oOo   oOo   oOo

What Happens Next
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and
the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to
news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which
the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a
statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be
verified.

After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and
propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious
objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid
YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of
the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a
newgroup control message may be sent out.  If the 100 vote margin or
2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
Mailing List
~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing
[email protected]) is currently active and was formed
after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless,
offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an
alternative to using News.  Comments on this to the request address.
The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will
remain active.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
Why Form a Group ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a
mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these
people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may
well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also
interested in the formation of such a group.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

Remember - I can't say how to vote, but please DO vote !!
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]
    oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'

From [email protected] Mon May 18 14:52:19 1992
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]>
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.graphics.explorer
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre
Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 18:20:15 GMT
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       oOo 2nd Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo
                    + Vote ACK - 16th May 1992
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is a 2nd call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group

                   comp.graphics.explorer

                        Unmoderated

  Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE)
                      
                 Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron
                   [email protected]
                   (see How to Vote below)

A list of voters registered so far (16th May 1992) appears at the end
                        of this message

                        oOo   oOo   oOo
Group Charter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon
Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can
be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently
is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on
other platforms in time. 

Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all
matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and
comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good
if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option
to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer
itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working
on future versions of the software.

                        oOo   oOo   oOo
How To Vote
~~~~~~~~~~~
To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either
the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word
YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need
not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in
the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual,
only the last one will be registered.

Example of how to vote
----------------------

	To: [email protected]

	Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer
or,	Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer

Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes
if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by
myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not
count).
The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on
the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored.

                        oOo   oOo   oOo

What Happens Next
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and
the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to
news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which
the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a
statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be
verified.

After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and
propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious
objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid
YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of
the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a
newgroup control message may be sent out.  If the 100 vote margin or
2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
Mailing List
~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing
[email protected]) is currently active and was formed
after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless,
offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an
alternative to using News.  Comments on this to the request address.
The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will
remain active.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
Why Form a Group ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a
mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these
people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may
well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also
interested in the formation of such a group.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

Votes received so far - any queries to [email protected]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Aaron Schuman <[email protected]>
Al Globus <[email protected]>
alan dare <[email protected]>
Alan Knight <[email protected]>
Alan Peevers <[email protected]>
Alex Pang <[email protected]>
Alex S. Crain <[email protected]>
Andreas Wierse <[email protected]>
Andrew J Wilson <[email protected]>
Angelo Mangili <[email protected]>
Augustine Lo <[email protected]>
Bill E. Eickmeier <[email protected]>
Bill Owens <[email protected]>
Bill Southworth <[email protected]>
Blaise Frederick <[email protected]>
Bob Brown <[email protected]>
Bob Lewis <[email protected]>
Booker Bense <[email protected]>
Brian Kauffman <[email protected]>
Brian Kauffman <[email protected]>
Bryan Reutter <[email protected]>
Buck Buchanan <[email protected]>
C Thornborrow <[email protected]>
Cal Kirchhof <[email protected]>
Charles Boesel <[email protected]>
Charles Gaumond <[email protected]>
Charles Ledogar <[email protected]>
Chieh-Cheng J. Yen <[email protected]>
Chris Galas <[email protected]>
Chris Hebert <[email protected]>
Chris Lilley <[email protected]>
Chris Pennington <[email protected]>
Christopher Fouts <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Cocotte Minute <[email protected]>
Craig Steinberger <[email protected]>
Craig Upson <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Cynthia D. McLain <[email protected]>
D.C. <[email protected]>
Dan Waylonis <[email protected]>
Danny Thomas <[email protected]>
Dave Cahlander <[email protected]>
Dave Donegan <[email protected]>
Dave Englund <[email protected]>
Dave Foulser <[email protected]>
Dave Shreiner <[email protected]>
David A Shinberg <[email protected]>
David Haight <[email protected]>
David Holt <[email protected]>
David Ofelt <[email protected]>
David Reuteler <[email protected]>
David Stewart <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
Demetri Terzopoulos <[email protected]>
Deyang Song <[email protected]>
Dick Jackson <[email protected]>
dixons <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <[email protected]>
Dr. John S. Eickemeyer <[email protected]>
Dr. Michael M. Cohen <[email protected]>
Drew R Whitehouse <[email protected]>
Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <[email protected]>
Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]>
George Elkins <[email protected]>
George Vanecek Jr. <[email protected]>
Gianni Mariani <[email protected]>
Gitta Domik <[email protected]>
glenn p. forney <gpfrn@gov.nist.cfr.cfr6>
Gordon Cameron <gordonc@uk.ac.ed.epcc>
Gordon Erlebacher <erlebach@edu.icase>
gordon@au.edu.citri.cgl.godzilla
Greg Fairbrother <gregf@com.cray.eastrg1>
greg@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Gus Williams <williams@gov.anl.eid.spatial>
Hans feil <feil@nl.philips.prl>
hans@se.ki.cmb.kixtal
hashimoto@com.sgi.asd.sideout
Heiko Schlichting <heiko@de.fu-berlin.chemie.ki1>
Helen Salter <salter@ca.ubc.ucs>
Henrik Klagges <uh311ae@de.lrz-muenchen.sunmanager>
highnam <highnam@com.slb.slcs>
Holly_Rushmeier <holly@gov.nist.cam>
hughes@edu.umn.msi.s1
ianh@au.com.bhp.resmel
Ingela Nordhage <ingela@se.uu.cb.jalikan>
Ion Barosan <I.Barosan@nl.tue.urc>
Irv.Elshoff@nl.wldelft
Jacqueline Dousson <dousson@ch.epfl.sasg1>
James J. Mcleod <mcleodj@earn.sdsc>
James Peters <peters@com.convex.mikey>
Jay Long <jlong@com.cray.no1sun>
Jean M. Favre <favre@edu.gwu.seas>
Jeff Allston <ALLSTON@ca.nrc.ciit.ciit85>
Jeff Hanson <tohanson@gov.nasa.lerc.gonzo>
Jeffrey A. Thingvold <jeffreyt@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Jerry Swearingen <swearing@mozart>
Jim Chen <chen@edu.nwu.acns.topeng>
Jim Johnson <jej@com.cray.pecan>
Jim Salem <salem@com.think>
jim@edu.stanford.kaos
Jim_Sims_x2710 <sims@gov.nist.cam>
Joe Biegel <biegeljd@com.dupont.dnet.esvax>
Joe Brust <brust@mil.navy.nrl.i5120q>
Joel Neisen <joel@edu.msc>
John D. McCalpin <mccalpin@edu.udel.cms.perelandra>
John Gregor <johng@edu.orst.oce>
John Hagedorn <hagedorn@gov.nasa.gsfc.betsy>
John Hwa <hwa@com.sgi.asd.batman>
John M. Troyer <troyer@edu.ucsf.mmwb.pooh>
John Martin <martin@com.nynexst>
John R. Chawner <utacfd!mdaeng!jrc@uk.ac.ed.festival>
John Rupley <rupley@edu.arizona.cs>
John Schmidt <jas@edu.duke.mc.erc-sparc>
John Wilson <jwilson@edu.colorado.cs.tigger>
Karl Geppert <karlg@au.edu.monash.cc.aurora>
Karl Henrik Eggestad <kalle@no.sintef.sima>
Karl Washburn <washburn@mil.navy.nrl.maddog>
Kathy Carusone  <carusone@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Kees.Everaars@nl.cwi
Kerry C. Hilldrup <hilldrup@gov.nasa.gsfc.jmh>
Kevin Russo <russo@mil.navy.nrl.rudedog>
Kian-Tat Lim <ktl@edu.caltech.wag>
kurt@sgi.com
Larry Coffin <lcoffin@edu.umr.chem.clciris>
Larry Schuette <schuette@mil.navy.nrl.roadkill>
Lawrence Mark Lifshitz <lml@edu.ummed.vision>
Lee Davis <LSDavis@uk.ac.ex.ua>
Len Zaifman <leonardz@ca.uoguelph.cs.testarossa>
Leo Blume <lblume@com.sgi.asd.dilithium>
lipman@mil.navy.dt.oasys (Robert Lipman)
Loki Jorgenson <loki@ca.mcgill.physics.frodo>
Magnus Bergman <bergman@se.kth.nada>
Malcolm Davis <davis@com.bms.nod>
Malcolm W. Ice <mwi2163@com.boeing.cfdd39>
Man Wei Tam <mwt@edu.tmc.bcm.bioch.3dem.dali>
Manuel Gamito <mag@pt.inesc.minerva>
Marc Andreessen <marca@edu.uiuc.ncsa.wintermute>
Mark Bartelt <sysmark@ca.utoronto.cita.orca>
Mark Solsman <solsman@mil.navy.nrl.i5160g>
Martin Knoblauch <martin@com.sgi.munich.knobi>
Marty Marra <marra@edu.whoi.jargon>
Marvin Landis <marvinl@edu.arizona.rc.amber>
Matthew White <matthew@uk.ac.ed.epcc>
mes@com.shell
Michael Bobak <bobak@edu.uiuc.life.nemo>
Naci Dai <dai@ca.carleton.mrco>
neilb@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Nils Thune <thune@no.cmi>
norman@edu.utah.math
Olof Runborg <olofr@se.kth.nada>
Patrick J. Flynn <flynn@edu.wsu.eecs>
patrick@edu.msstate.erc
Paul Jensen <pdj@edu.colorado.bilbo>
Paul Smith <paul@gov.nasa.gsfc.manono>
PECQUET@edu.ohio-state.mps
Pierre MARTEL <martel@fr.cnet.issy>
R. AJAY KUMAR <AJAY@earn.tifrvax>
Raul Essig <lizard@edu.ucsc.cats>
Richard H. Miller <rick@edu.tmc.bcm.ssctr.crick>
Rick Speer <speer@edu.colorado.cs.anchor>
Rob MacLeod <macleod@edu.utah.cvrti.vissgi>
Robert DeMillo  <demillo@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Robert E. Minsk <ccoprrm@edu.gatech.prism>
Robert Hallowell <hal@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Robert Skinner <robert@com.sgi.asd.texas>
Roger Crawfis <crawfis@gov.llnl.ocf.ramius>
Roland Schweitzer <roland@edu.unr.scs.unssun>
root@uk.ac.ic.me
Ruth White <bn244@edu.freenet.cleveland>
Scott Bolte <scott@com.craycos>
Scott Draves <spot@edu.cmu.cs.fox.cobol>
seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%fi.sgi@fi.fuug>
shaun@uk.ac.leeds.scs
sillion@earn.frulm63
Stefan Farestam <farestam@fr.cerfacs.orion>
Stephen Bohus <clr@edu.toronto.dgp>
Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) <stephen@mil.brl>
Steve Couturie <lhdsy1!fred.lahabra.chevron.com!shc@net.uu.uunet>
Steve Larkin <LARKIN@uk.ac.mcc.cgu.v3>
Steve Olson  <olson@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Steve Rogers <srogers@com.eds.tad>
Steve Rooke <rooke@edu.noao>
Steve Van Gorder <steve@edu.fsu.ocean.chaos>
Steven Anderson <standers@edu.umn.cs>
Steven H. Izen <steve@edu.cwru.math.pitacat>
T. Todd Elvins <todd@edu.sdsc>
Thomas C. Palmer <palmer@org.ncsc>
Tim Monks <tim@au.com.bhp.resmel>
timmy@uk.ac.leeds.scs
U. Lang <Ulrich.Lang@de.uni-stuttgart.rus>
Vincent A. Frouhar <k0vaf@gov.nasa.gsfc.calvin>
Vincent LE BARAZER <vincent@com.cray.pastek>
Vivien Hannon, UCIS <HANNON@ca.dal.ac>
Wayne A. Vieira <waynev@gov.lanl.ranger>
Wayne Podaima <WJP@ca.nrc.vm>
westenberg g. <guido@nl.nlr>
william e lorensen <lorensen@com.ge.crd.ausable>
William J. Bouma <bouma@edu.purdue.cs>
Wizard of OZ <gary@com.sgi.asd.enigma>
zdenek@ch.cern.sun2
/usr/spool/mail/young <young@edu.unm.eece.borris>
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: gordonc@epcc.ed.ac.uk
    oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'

From gordonc@castle.ed.ac.uk Wed Jun  3 09:54:10 1992
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From: Gordon Cameron <gordonc@castle.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.graphics.explorer
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       oOo 3rd Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo
                    + Vote ACK - 31st May 1992
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is the 3rd and final call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group

                   comp.graphics.explorer

                        Unmoderated

  Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE)
                      
                 Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron
                   gordonc@castle.ed.ac.uk
                   (see How to Vote below)

         Voting Period ENDS at midnight (GMT) on 4th June

A list of voters registered so far (31st May 1992) appears at the end
                        of this message

                        oOo   oOo   oOo
Group Charter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon
Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can
be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently
is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on
other platforms in time. 

Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all
matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and
comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good
if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option
to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer
itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working
on future versions of the software.

                        oOo   oOo   oOo
How To Vote
~~~~~~~~~~~
To Vote, please send a message to gordonc@castle.ed.ac.uk, with either
the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word
YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need
not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in
the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual,
only the last one will be registered.

Example of how to vote
----------------------

	To: gordonc@castle.ed.ac.uk

	Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer
or,	Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer

Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes
if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by
myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not
count).
The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on
the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored.

                        oOo   oOo   oOo

What Happens Next
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and
the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to
news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which
the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a
statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be
verified.

After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and
propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious
objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid
YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of
the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a
newgroup control message may be sent out.  If the 100 vote margin or
2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
Mailing List
~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing
explorer-request@castle.ed.ac.uk) is currently active and was formed
after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless,
offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an
alternative to using News.  Comments on this to the request address.
The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will
remain active.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo
Why Form a Group ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a
mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these
people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may
well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also
interested in the formation of such a group.

                          oOo   oOo   oOo

Votes received so far - any queries to gordonc@castle.ed.ac.uk
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Aaron Schuman <schuman@com.sgi.wpd.eacces>
Al Globus <globus@gov.nasa.nas>
Alain Massiot <massiot@fr.crihan>
alan dare <alan@gov.nasa.larc.hal>
Alan Davis <davis@edu.fsu.ocean.masig4>
Alan Knight <knight@ca.carleton.mrco>
Alan Peevers <alan@edu.berkeley.cnmat.boulez>
Alex Butler (JRG ra) <alex@uk.ac.man.cs>
Alex Pang <pang@edu.ucsc.cse>
Alex S. Crain <alex@edu.umbc.umbc4>
anand kolatkar <anandk@edu.rice>
Andras Salamon <andras@za.ac.wits.cs.concave>
Andreas Wierse <zrhk0390@de.uni-stuttgart.rus.awssg6>
Andrew J Wilson <ajsw@ed.epcc>
Andrew Wyatt <0003808696@com.mcimail>
Angelo Mangili <amangili@ch.cscs>
Augustine Lo <august@hk.cuhk.csc.next>
Bill E. Eickmeier <bee@ca.uwo.rri.heart.valve>
Bill Owens <owens@edu.buffalo.cc.cookiemonster>
Bill Southworth <vision@com.ksr>
Blaise Frederick <frederic@gov.lbl.imasun>
Bob Brown <rlb@com.sgi.asd.lavalite>
Bob Lewis <bobl@ca.ubc.cs>
Bob Swaffar <swaffar@edu.utexas.ar.vitruvius>
Booker Bense <benseb@edu.sdsc>
Bradley Moskowitz <mosko@edu.ucla.math>
Brian Kauffman <kauff@edu.ucar.cgd.neit>
Brian Stone <bjs@au.edu.canberra.echo>
Bryan Reutter <reutter@edu.ucdavis.eecs>
Buck Buchanan <buck@mil.navy.nrl.rcdips>
C Thornborrow <ct@uk.ac.ed.castle>
Cal Kirchhof <cal@com.cray.palm>
Charles Boesel <cboesel@net.holonet.orac>
Charles Gaumond <gaumond@mil.navy.nrl.acoustics>
Charles Ledogar <ledogar@edu.upenn.seas.eniac>
Chieh-Cheng J. Yen <yen@edu.ohio-state.eng.alpha>
Chris Cressy <virtuoso!chris@net.uu.uunet>
Chris Galas <ceg@org.mn.orb.pnet51>
Chris Hebert <chebert@com.sgi.sanramon.mondavi>
Chris Lilley <lilleyc@uk.ac.man.cs>
Chris Pennington <cbp@uk.ac.nwl.ua>
Chris Rousculp <rousculp@edu.ucla.physics.hobbes>
Christian REBIFFE _ Pre Sales Manager <xtian@com.sgi.paris.nathalie>
Christopher Fouts <fouts@com.sgi.dallas.exacto>
CLARKED@au.edu.ucq.topaz
Cocotte Minute <laviers@ca.umontreal.iro>
Coral Bernier <coral@edu.washington.u>
cp_baker@pnl.gov
Craig Steinberger <stein-c@edu.buffalo.eng>
Craig Upson <upson@com.sgi.asd.billiebob>
csc5sf@uk.ac.leeds.cif
Cynthia D. McLain <cdm@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
D.C. <dong@edu.umd.fuzzy>
Dan Severance <dan@edu.yale.chem.rani>
Dan Waylonis <danw@edu.msc>
Daniel Hoffmann <hoffmann@de.fu-berlin.chemie.groucho>
Danny Thomas <vthrc@au.oz.uq.cc.brolga>
Dave Cahlander <dac@com.cray.pecan>
Dave Ciemiewicz <ciemo@com.sgi.csd.bananapc>
Dave Donegan <donegan@com.ctron.penny>
Dave Englund <englund@com.grumman.gdstech>
Dave Foulser <foulser@com.sgi.asd.homebrew>
Dave Kerlick <davidk@com.boeing.atc>
Dave Shreiner <shreiner@com.sgi.csd.arioch>
David A Shinberg <pok@com.att.homxc>
David Haight <davidh8@com.tek.wv.leda>
David Holt <holt@com.convex.pixel>
David M. Senseman <senseman@edu.utsa.lonestar>
David Ofelt <ofelt@edu.stanford.shasta>
David Reuteler <reudi@edu.umn.msi.krissy>
David Stewart <stewart@edu.uga.ucns.aurora>
David.Punia@edu.uvm
David.Punia@edu.uvm
dbk@uk.ac.aber
ddougher@edu.uvm.uvm-gen
Demetri Terzopoulos <dt@edu.toronto.vis>
Deyang Song <dsong@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Dick Jackson <jackson@ca.nrc.ibd.qm>
dixons <dixons%phvax.dnet@com.smithkline>
Don Middleton <don@edu.ucar.scd.redcloud>
dpm@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <ENGEL@il.ac.huji.hujivms>
Dr. John S. Eickemeyer <johne@sg.gov.iti>
Dr. Michael M. Cohen <mmcohen@edu.ucsc.dewi>
Drew R Whitehouse <Drew.Whitehouse@au.edu.anu>
Duane F Marble <dmarble@edu.ohio-state.acs.magnus>
Emilia Hezari <emilia@edu.utexas.cs>
epetelhb@edu.utexas.cc.ccwf (Erik Peterson)
Eric Salberta <esalbert@com.scubed.incant>
Frank C. Christofferson <ssi!fcc@net.uu.uunet>
Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <root@gov.epa.rtpnc.bizarre>
FRED@gov.lanl.lampf
Fredo Sartori <sartori@de.fu-berlin.chemie.chico>
Gary Oberbrunner <garyo@com.think>
gb@edu.uvm.uvm-gen
George Elkins <elkins@edu.rutgers.cabm.nmrlab>
George Vanecek Jr. <vanecek@edu.purdue.cs>
Gianni Mariani <gianni@com.sgi.neu.kakadu>
Gitta Domik <domik@edu.colorado.cs.wilkinson>
glenn p. forney <gpfrn@gov.nist.cfr.cfr6>
Gordon Cameron <gordonc@uk.ac.ed.epcc>
Gordon Erlebacher <erlebach@edu.icase>
gordon@au.edu.citri.cgl.godzilla
Greg Chien <chien@edu.iit.iitmax>
Greg Couch <gregc@edu.ucsf.mmwb.zeno>
Greg Fairbrother <gregf@com.cray.eastrg1>
greg@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Gus Williams <williams@gov.anl.eid.spatial>
Hans feil <feil@nl.philips.prl>
hans@se.ki.cmb.kixtal
hansen@gov.lanl.acl (Charles D. Hansen)
hashimoto@com.sgi.asd.sideout
Hege <hege@de.zib-berlin.sc>
Heiko Schlichting <heiko@de.fu-berlin.chemie.ki1>
heinau@de.fu-berlin.chemie.groucho (Vera Heinau)
Helen Salter <salter@ca.ubc.ucs>
Henrik Klagges <uh311ae@de.lrz-muenchen.sunmanager>
highnam <highnam@com.slb.slcs>
Holly_Rushmeier <holly@gov.nist.cam>
hughes@edu.umn.msi.s1
ianh@au.com.bhp.resmel
In-Kwon Lee <iklee@kr.ac.postech.lion>
Ingela Nordhage <ingela@se.uu.cb.jalikan>
Ion Barosan <I.Barosan@nl.tue.urc>
Irv.Elshoff@nl.wldelft
J.-P. Malisse CAMME project <cammejpm@be.ac.camme>
Jacqueline Dousson <dousson@ch.epfl.sasg1>
James J. Mcleod <mcleodj@earn.sdsc>
James Peters <peters@com.convex.mikey>
JANINE <FALES@gov.lanl.meediv>
Jay Long <jlong@com.cray.no1sun>
Jean M. Favre <favre@edu.gwu.seas>
Jeff Allston <ALLSTON@ca.nrc.ciit.ciit85>
Jeff Hanson <tohanson@gov.nasa.lerc.gonzo>
Jeffrey A. Thingvold <jeffreyt@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Jeffrey L. Jones <jeff@mil.navy.nrl.hp8c>
Jerry Swearingen <swearing@mozart>
Jim Chen <chen@edu.nwu.acns.topeng>
Jim Johnson <jej@com.cray.pecan>
Jim Salem <salem@com.think>
jim@edu.stanford.kaos
jim@uk.ac.ic.me
Jim_Sims_x2710 <sims@gov.nist.cam>
Joe Biegel <biegeljd@com.dupont.dnet.esvax>
Joe Brust <brust@mil.navy.nrl.i5120q>
Joel Garrett <Joel_Garrett@edu.udel.ccm.mac1d>
Joel Neisen <joel@edu.msc>
John D. McCalpin <mccalpin@edu.udel.cms.perelandra>
John E. Mendenhall <edsr!jem@net.uu.uunet>
John G Dobnick <jgd@edu.uwm.csd.csd4>
John Gregor <johng@edu.orst.oce>
John Hagedorn <hagedorn@gov.nasa.gsfc.betsy>
John Hwa <hwa@com.sgi.asd.batman>
John M. Troyer <troyer@edu.ucsf.mmwb.pooh>
John Martin <martin@com.nynexst>
John R. Chawner <utacfd!mdaeng!jrc@uk.ac.ed.festival>
John Rupley <rupley@edu.arizona.cs>
John Schmidt <jas@edu.duke.mc.erc-sparc>
John Wilson <jwilson@edu.colorado.cs.tigger>
Karl Geppert <karlg@au.edu.monash.cc.aurora>
Karl Henrik Eggestad <kalle@no.sintef.sima>
Karl Washburn <washburn@mil.navy.nrl.maddog>
Kathy Carusone  <carusone@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Kees.Everaars@nl.cwi
Kerry C. Hilldrup <hilldrup@gov.nasa.gsfc.jmh>
Kevin Russo <russo@mil.navy.nrl.rudedog>
Kian-Tat Lim <ktl@edu.caltech.wag>
Killer Bob <Robert.van.Liere@nl.cwi>
kurt@sgi.com
L.Newnham@bradford
Lanny R. Udey <ACCLRU@edu.hofstra.vaxc>
Larry Coffin <lcoffin@edu.umr.chem.clciris>
Larry Lidsky <lmlidsky@edu.mit.athena>
Larry Schuette <schuette@mil.navy.nrl.roadkill>
Lawrence Mark Lifshitz <lml@edu.ummed.vision>
Lee Davis <LSDavis@uk.ac.ex.ua>
Len Zaifman <leonardz@ca.uoguelph.cs.testarossa>
Leo Blume <lblume@com.sgi.asd.dilithium>
lipman@mil.navy.dt.oasys (Robert Lipman)
Loki Jorgenson <loki@ca.mcgill.physics.frodo>
M14726@org.mitre.tefvms
Magnus Bergman <bergman@se.kth.nada>
Malcolm Davis <davis@com.bms.nod>
Malcolm W. Ice <mwi2163@com.boeing.cfdd39>
Man Wei Tam <mwt@edu.tmc.bcm.bioch.3dem.dali>
Manuel Gamito <mag@pt.inesc.minerva>
Manuel Urrutia <urrutia@edu.ucla.physics.hobbes>
Marc Andreessen <marca@edu.uiuc.ncsa.wintermute>
Mark Bartelt <sysmark@ca.utoronto.cita.orca>
Mark D. Freeman <mfreeman@edu.harvard.vger>
Mark Solsman <solsman@mil.navy.nrl.i5160g>
Martin Knoblauch <martin@com.sgi.munich.knobi>
Marty Marra <marra@edu.whoi.jargon>
Marvin Landis <marvinl@edu.arizona.rc.amber>
Matthew White <matthew@uk.ac.ed.epcc>
mcnabb@edu.umd.astro
Melvino <poh@au.edu.murdoch.cs.mips>
mes@com.shell
Michael Bobak <bobak@edu.uiuc.life.nemo>
Michael Fong <mjf@com.sgi.csd.pelican>
Michael Lewis <melewis@edu.waterloo.jeeves>
mike carson <carson@edu.uab.cmc.luna>
Naci Dai <dai@ca.carleton.mrco>
Nazneen Billawala <nina@edu.stanford.cs>
neilb@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Nils Thune <thune@no.cmi>
Norm Nithman <norm@uucp.sdc>
norman@edu.utah.math
Olof Runborg <olofr@se.kth.nada>
Patrick J. Flynn <flynn@edu.wsu.eecs>
patrick@edu.msstate.erc
Paul Jensen <pdj@edu.colorado.bilbo>
Paul Smith <paul@gov.nasa.gsfc.manono>
Paul Sorensen <sorensen@com.boeing.atc>
Pavel Mayer <pavel@de.artcom>
PECQUET@edu.ohio-state.mps
Penny Rheingans <rheingan@edu.unc.cs>
Peter S. Shenkin <shenkin@edu.columbia.barnard.avogadro>
Philippe SUIGNARD  <philippe@fr.edf.der.cli52gs>
Pierre MARTEL <martel@fr.cnet.issy>
Po Sum Chung -- ACF <chung@gov.nasa.arc.george>
R. AJAY KUMAR <AJAY@earn.tifrvax>
Ralph Milliff <milliff@edu.ucar.cgd.isis>
Randall Gallimore <randall@au.com.bhp.resntl>
Raul Essig <lizard@edu.ucsc.cats>
Richard H. Miller <rick@edu.tmc.bcm.ssctr.crick>
Rick Speer <speer@edu.colorado.cs.anchor>
Rob MacLeod <macleod@edu.utah.cvrti.vissgi>
Robert Allan Pette <pette@com.sgi.houst.iris32>
Robert DeMillo  <demillo@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Robert E. Minsk <ccoprrm@edu.gatech.prism>
Robert Hallowell <hal@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Robert Riviere <Robert.Riviere@fr.inria.sophia>
Robert Skinner <robert@com.sgi.asd.texas>
Roger Crawfis <crawfis@gov.llnl.ocf.ramius>
Roland Gordon-Beresford <roland@be.rubens>
Roland Schweitzer <roland@edu.unr.scs.unssun>
root@uk.ac.ic.me
Ruth White <bn244@edu.freenet.cleveland>
Scott Bolte <scott@com.craycos>
Scott Draves <spot@edu.cmu.cs.fox.cobol>
seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%fi.sgi@fi.fuug>
Seth Troxel  <setht@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Shannon Maher <shannon@com.sierra>
shaun@uk.ac.leeds.scs
sillion@earn.frulm63
smant g.a. <smant@nl.nlr>
Stan Jensen <stanj@com.sgi.corp.ferrari>
Stefan Farestam <farestam@fr.cerfacs.orion>
Stephen Bohus <clr@edu.toronto.dgp>
Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) <stephen@mil.brl>
Steve Couturie <lhdsy1!fred.lahabra.chevron.com!shc@net.uu.uunet>
Steve Kim  <stevek@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Steve Larkin <LARKIN@uk.ac.mcc.cgu.v3>
Steve Olson  <olson@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Steve Rogers <srogers@com.eds.tad>
Steve Rooke <rooke@edu.noao>
Steve Van Gorder <steve@edu.fsu.ocean.chaos>
Steve Woodyatt <steve@au.com.bhp.resntl>
Steven Anderson <standers@edu.umn.cs>
Steven H. Izen <steve@edu.cwru.math.pitacat>
Steven Kubica <kubica@edu.unm.eece.chama>
STOEFFLER Daniel <daniel@fr.u-strasbg.gemme>
T. Todd Elvins <todd@edu.sdsc>
Tad Guy <tadguy@gov.nasa.larc.ab00>
Technocrat  <mnhan@edu.washington.chem.keystone>
Thomas C. Palmer <palmer@org.ncsc>
Thomas Richter <richter@de.fu-berlin.chemie.ki1>
Tim Buckner <SYSTEM@edu.uab.cmc.orion>
Tim Monks <tim@au.com.bhp.resmel>
tim@ca.dnd.dciem.ben
timmy@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Todd Shutts <shutts@com.gd.gdwest>
Tom Albrecht <tom@com.unisys.mdc.portland>
Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@com.mentorg.warren>
Tony Berke  <tonyb@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
U. Lang <Ulrich.Lang@de.uni-stuttgart.rus>
Vincent A. Frouhar <k0vaf@gov.nasa.gsfc.calvin>
Vincent LE BARAZER <vincent@com.cray.pastek>
Vivien Hannon, UCIS <HANNON@ca.dal.ac>
Wayne A. Vieira <waynev@gov.lanl.ranger>
Wayne Podaima <WJP@ca.nrc.vm>
westenberg g. <guido@nl.nlr>
william e lorensen <lorensen@com.ge.crd.ausable>
William J. Bouma <bouma@edu.purdue.cs>
William Sherman -Visualization <wsherman@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Wizard of OZ <gary@com.sgi.asd.enigma>
zdenek@ch.cern.sun2
/usr/spool/mail/young <young@edu.unm.eece.borris>
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: gordonc@epcc.ed.ac.uk
    oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'

From gordonc@epcc.edinburgh.ac.uk Thu Jun 11 14:30:40 1992
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Gordon Cameron <gordonc@epcc.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Subject: RESULT: comp.graphics.explorer passes 322: 13
Message-ID: <1992Jun9.183115.25487@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
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The vote on the proposal of the creation of the newsgroup :
                comp.graphics.explorer (Unmoderated)
closed at 12pm (GMT) on the 4th of June 1992.


oOo Result oOo
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The result is as follows.

                Votes For     322
                Votes Against 13

Since there are greater than 100 more valid YES notes than NO votes, and
since the proportion of YES to NO votes is greater than 2/3, the
proposal passes the USENET guidelines for creation of a newsgroup.

The next 5 days gives the net a chance to correct any errors in the voter
list or voting procedure. If, after this period, there are no serious
objections, the group comp.graphics.explorer shall be created.

A full list of voters, indicating which way their votes were cast, is
listed at the foot of this message. Thanks to all those who participated
in the vote.

oOo The Mailing List oOo
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The explorer mailing list will remain in place, (mainly for the benefit
of those without USENET access). Any mail posted to the mailing list
will AUTOMATICALLY be forwarded on to the newsgroup
comp.graphics.explorer, but the reverse feed will not be performed
initially.

What this means is that people can still mail to explorer@castle.ed.ac.uk,
and if they do so, their message will go directly to those still on
the mailing list, as well as to the newsgroup. However, messages
posted directly to the newsgroup WILL NOT be fed back to the mailing
list subscribers (so if you want a reply after posting to the mailing
list, be sure to mention that you would like it via e-mail).

(This also means that there is no great rush to unsubscribe from 
the list if this is what you wish to do....I won't be processing
such requests instantly anyway #:-)

FTP is available as usual from ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and
swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov

Please send any comments you may have to
explorer-request@castle.ed.ac.uk or gordonc@epcc.ed.ac.uk

	-Gordon Cameron.


YES votes for comp.graphics.explorer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
/usr/spool/mail/young <young@edu.unm.eece.borris>
Aaron Schuman <schuman@com.sgi.wpd.eacces>
Al Globus <globus@gov.nasa.nas>
Alain Massiot <massiot@fr.crihan>
alan dare <alan@gov.nasa.larc.hal>
Alan Davis <davis@edu.fsu.ocean.masig4>
Alan Knight <knight@ca.carleton.mrco>
Alan Peevers <alan@edu.berkeley.cnmat.boulez>
Alex Butler (JRG ra) <alex@uk.ac.man.cs>
Alex Pang <pang@edu.ucsc.cse>
Alex S. Crain <alex@edu.umbc.umbc4>
Allan Schaffer <aschaffe@edu.calpoly.nike>
Allen McPherson <bhagwan@gov.lanl.agps>
anand kolatkar <anandk@edu.rice>
Andras Salamon <andras@za.ac.wits.cs.concave>
Andreas Wierse <zrhk0390@de.uni-stuttgart.rus.awssg6>
Andrew J Wilson <ajsw@ed.epcc>
Andrew Wyatt <0003808696@com.mcimail>
Angelo Mangili <amangili@ch.cscs>
Augustine Lo <august@hk.cuhk.csc.next>
Bill E. Eickmeier <bee@ca.uwo.rri.heart.valve>
Bill Southworth <vision@com.ksr>
bjs@edu.ufl.phys.neptune
Blaise Frederick <frederic@gov.lbl.imasun>
Bob Brown <rlb@com.sgi.asd.lavalite>
Bob Lewis <bobl@ca.ubc.cs>
Bob Swaffar <swaffar@edu.utexas.ar.vitruvius>
Booker Bense <benseb@edu.sdsc>
Bradley Moskowitz <mosko@edu.ucla.math>
Brian Calvert <brian_calvert@com.mot.corp.cadsun>
Brian Kauffman <kauff@edu.ucar.cgd.neit>
Brian Stone <bjs@au.edu.canberra.echo>
Bruce Dupee NCS Site Manager <bwd@uk.ac.nso.ub>
Bryan Reutter <reutter@edu.ucdavis.eecs>
Buck Buchanan <buck@mil.navy.nrl.rcdips>
C Thornborrow <ct@uk.ac.ed.castle>
Charles Boesel <cboesel@net.holonet.orac>
Charles Gaumond <gaumond@mil.navy.nrl.acoustics>
Charles Ledogar <ledogar@edu.upenn.seas.eniac>
Chieh-Cheng J. Yen <yen@edu.ohio-state.eng.alpha>
Chris Cressy <virtuoso!chris@net.uu.uunet>
Chris Galas <ceg@org.mn.orb.pnet51>
Chris Hebert <chebert@com.sgi.sanramon.mondavi>
Chris Lilley <lilleyc@uk.ac.man.cs>
Chris Pennington <cbp@uk.ac.nwl.ua>
Chris Rousculp <rousculp@edu.ucla.physics.hobbes>
Christian REBIFFE _ Pre Sales Manager <xtian@com.sgi.paris.nathalie>
Christopher Fouts <fouts@com.sgi.dallas.exacto>
CLARKED@au.edu.ucq.topaz
Cocotte Minute <laviers@ca.umontreal.iro>
Coral Bernier <coral@edu.washington.u>
cp_baker@pnl.gov
Craig Steinberger <stein-c@edu.buffalo.eng>
Craig Upson <upson@com.sgi.asd.billiebob>
Cynthia D. McLain <cdm@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
D.C. <dong@edu.umd.fuzzy>
Dan Miley <dwm@com.sgi.asd.conan>
Dan Severance <dan@edu.yale.chem.rani>
Dan Waylonis <danw@edu.msc>
Daniel Hoffmann <hoffmann@de.fu-berlin.chemie.groucho>
Daniel Morrison <morrison@edu.jhuapl.sigi>
Danny Thomas <vthrc@au.oz.uq.cc.brolga>
Dave Cahlander <dac@com.cray.pecan>
Dave Ciemiewicz <ciemo@com.sgi.csd.bananapc>
Dave Donegan <donegan@com.ctron.penny>
Dave Englund <englund@com.grumman.gdstech>
Dave Foulser <foulser@com.sgi.asd.homebrew>
Dave Kerlick <davidk@com.boeing.atc>
Dave Shreiner <shreiner@com.sgi.csd.arioch>
David A Shinberg <pok@com.att.homxc>
David Boles <boles@edu.utexas.arlut.asg.cayman>
David Haight <davidh8@com.tek.wv.leda>
David Holt <holt@com.convex.pixel>
David M. Senseman <senseman@edu.utsa.lonestar>
David Ofelt <ofelt@edu.stanford.shasta>
David Reuteler <reudi@edu.umn.msi.krissy>
David Stewart <stewart@edu.uga.ucns.aurora>
David.Punia@edu.uvm
David.Punia@edu.uvm
dbk@uk.ac.aber
ddougher@edu.uvm.uvm-gen
Demetri Terzopoulos <dt@edu.toronto.vis>
Deyang Song <dsong@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Dick Jackson <jackson@ca.nrc.ibd.qm>
Dirk Luesebrink <crux@de.artcom>
dixons <dixons%phvax.dnet@com.smithkline>
Don Middleton <don@edu.ucar.scd.redcloud>
Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <ENGEL@il.ac.huji.hujivms>
Dr. John S. Eickemeyer <johne@sg.gov.iti>
Dr. Michael M. Cohen <mmcohen@edu.ucsc.dewi>
Drew R Whitehouse <Drew.Whitehouse@au.edu.anu>
Duane F Marble <dmarble@edu.ohio-state.acs.magnus>
E. Kirby  5-3524 <ekirby@com.boeing.espresso>
Emilia Hezari <emilia@edu.utexas.cs>
epetelhb@edu.utexas.cc.ccwf (Erik Peterson)
Eric Salberta <esalbert@com.scubed.incant>
Frank C. Christofferson <ssi!fcc@net.uu.uunet>
Frank Taylor 4278 <frank@butch>
Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <root@gov.epa.rtpnc.bizarre>
FRED@gov.lanl.lampf
Fredo Sartori <sartori@de.fu-berlin.chemie.chico>
Gary Oberbrunner <garyo@com.think>
gb@edu.uvm.uvm-gen
George Elkins <elkins@edu.rutgers.cabm.nmrlab>
George Scott <george@gov.nrel>
George Vanecek Jr. <vanecek@edu.purdue.cs>
Gianni Mariani <gianni@com.sgi.neu.kakadu>
Gitta Domik <domik@edu.colorado.cs.wilkinson>
Glen Niebur <gln@edu.mayo.hercules>
Glenn Deardorff -- GDP <glennd@gov.nasa.arc.george>
glenn p. forney <gpfrn@gov.nist.cfr.cfr6>
Gordon Cameron <gordonc@uk.ac.ed.epcc>
Gordon Erlebacher <erlebach@edu.icase>
gordon@au.edu.citri.cgl.godzilla
Greg Chien <chien@edu.iit.iitmax>
Greg Couch <gregc@edu.ucsf.mmwb.zeno>
Greg Fairbrother <gregf@com.cray.eastrg1>
Gus Williams <williams@gov.anl.eid.spatial>
Hannu Napari <napo@fi.sgi>
Hans feil <feil@nl.philips.prl>
hans@se.ki.cmb.kixtal
hansen@gov.lanl.acl (Charles D. Hansen)
hashimoto@com.sgi.asd.sideout
Hege <hege@de.zib-berlin.sc>
Heiko Schlichting <heiko@de.fu-berlin.chemie.ki1>
heinau@de.fu-berlin.chemie.groucho (Vera Heinau)
Helen Salter <salter@ca.ubc.ucs>
Henrik Klagges <uh311ae@de.lrz-muenchen.sunmanager>
highnam <highnam@com.slb.slcs>
hofer@ch.unibas.urz
Holly_Rushmeier <holly@gov.nist.cam>
hughes@edu.umn.msi.s1
Ian Clements <ian@com.sgi.wpd.twilight>
ianh@au.com.bhp.resmel
In-Kwon Lee <iklee@kr.ac.postech.lion>
Ingela Nordhage <ingela@se.uu.cb.jalikan>
Ion Barosan <I.Barosan@nl.tue.urc>
Irv.Elshoff@nl.wldelft
J.-P. Malisse CAMME project <cammejpm@be.ac.camme>
Jack Rogers <rogers@edu.ucsd.heart4>
Jacqueline Dousson <dousson@ch.epfl.sasg1>
James J. Mcleod <mcleodj@earn.sdsc>
James Peters <peters@com.convex.mikey>
JANINE <FALES@gov.lanl.meediv>
Jay Long <jlong@com.cray.no1sun>
Jean M. Favre <favre@edu.gwu.seas>
Jeff Allston <ALLSTON@ca.nrc.ciit.ciit85>
Jeff Hanson <tohanson@gov.nasa.lerc.gonzo>
Jeffrey A. Thingvold <jeffreyt@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Jeffrey L. Jones <jeff@mil.navy.nrl.hp8c>
Jerry Swearingen <swearing@mozart>
Jim Chen <chen@edu.nwu.acns.topeng>
Jim Johnson <jej@com.cray.pecan>
Jim Salem <salem@com.think>
jim@edu.stanford.kaos
jim@uk.ac.ic.me
Jim_Sims_x2710 <sims@gov.nist.cam>
Joe Biegel <biegeljd@com.dupont.dnet.esvax>
Joe Brust <brust@mil.navy.nrl.i5120q>
Joel Garrett <Joel_Garrett@edu.udel.ccm.mac1d>
Joel Neisen <joel@edu.msc>
John D. McCalpin <mccalpin@edu.udel.cms.perelandra>
John E. Mendenhall <edsr!jem@net.uu.uunet>
John G Dobnick <jgd@edu.uwm.csd.csd4>
John Gregor <johng@edu.orst.oce>
John Hagedorn <hagedorn@gov.nasa.gsfc.betsy>
John Hwa <hwa@com.sgi.asd.batman>
John J. Helly <hellyj@net.cerf>
John M. Troyer <troyer@edu.ucsf.mmwb.pooh>
John Martin <martin@com.nynexst>
John R. Chawner <utacfd!mdaeng!jrc@uk.ac.ed.festival>
John Rupley <rupley@edu.arizona.cs>
John Schmidt <jas@edu.duke.mc.erc-sparc>
John Wilson <jwilson@edu.colorado.cs.tigger>
Juan Meza <meza@gov.llnl.snll-arpagw>
K. R. Subramanian <krs@com.att.allegra>
Karl Geppert <karlg@au.edu.monash.cc.aurora>
Karl Henrik Eggestad <kalle@no.sintef.sima>
Karl Washburn <washburn@mil.navy.nrl.maddog>
Kathy Carusone  <carusone@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Kees.Everaars@nl.cwi
Kerry C. Hilldrup <hilldrup@gov.nasa.gsfc.jmh>
Kevin Russo <russo@mil.navy.nrl.rudedog>
Kian-Tat Lim <ktl@edu.caltech.wag>
Killer Bob <Robert.van.Liere@nl.cwi>
kurt@sgi.com
L.Newnham@bradford
Lanny R. Udey <ACCLRU@edu.hofstra.vaxc>
Larry Coffin <lcoffin@edu.umr.chem.clciris>
Larry Lidsky <lmlidsky@edu.mit.athena>
Larry Schuette <schuette@mil.navy.nrl.roadkill>
Lawrence Mark Lifshitz <lml@edu.ummed.vision>
Lee Davis <LSDavis@uk.ac.ex.ua>
Len Zaifman <leonardz@ca.uoguelph.cs.testarossa>
Leo Blume <lblume@com.sgi.asd.dilithium>
lipman@mil.navy.dt.oasys (Robert Lipman)
Loki Jorgenson <loki@ca.mcgill.physics.frodo>
lowry@com.arco
M14726@org.mitre.tefvms
Magnus Bergman <bergman@se.kth.nada>
Malcolm Davis <davis@com.bms.nod>
Malcolm W. Ice <mwi2163@com.boeing.cfdd39>
Man Wei Tam <mwt@edu.tmc.bcm.bioch.3dem.dali>
Manuel Gamito <mag@pt.inesc.minerva>
Manuel Urrutia <urrutia@edu.ucla.physics.hobbes>
Marc Andreessen <marca@edu.uiuc.ncsa.wintermute>
Marek Behr <behr@edu.umn.arc.s1>
Mark Bartelt <sysmark@ca.utoronto.cita.orca>
Mark D. Freeman <mfreeman@edu.harvard.vger>
Mark Solsman <solsman@mil.navy.nrl.i5160g>
Martin Knoblauch <martin@com.sgi.munich.knobi>
Martin S. Weinhous Ph.D. <weinhous@edu.hahnemann.alpha>
Marty Marra <marra@edu.whoi.jargon>
Marvin Landis <marvinl@edu.arizona.rc.amber>
Masayuki Matsumoto <matumot@jp.co.nkk.elec>
Matthew White <matthew@uk.ac.ed.epcc>
mccann@mil.navy.nps.oc.whitney
mcgregor@gov.ncifcrf
mcnabb@edu.umd.astro
Melvino <poh@au.edu.murdoch.cs.mips>
mes@com.shell
Michael Bobak <bobak@edu.uiuc.life.nemo>
Michael Fong <mjf@com.sgi.csd.pelican>
Michael Lewis <melewis@edu.waterloo.jeeves>
mike carson <carson@edu.uab.cmc.luna>
Mike Weisenborn <mdw@gov.nasa.larc.hojo>
mikep@edu.iastate
mosko@edu.ucla.math
Naci Dai <dai@ca.carleton.mrco>
Nazneen Billawala <nina@edu.stanford.cs>
Nils Thune <thune@no.cmi>
Norm Nithman <norm@uucp.sdc>
norman@edu.utah.math
Olof Runborg <olofr@se.kth.nada>
Paetsch <paetsch@de.zib-berlin.sc>
Patrick J. Flynn <flynn@edu.wsu.eecs>
patrick@edu.msstate.erc
Paul Jensen <pdj@edu.colorado.bilbo>
Paul Smith <paul@gov.nasa.gsfc.manono>
Paul Sorensen <sorensen@com.boeing.atc>
Pavel Mayer <pavel@de.artcom>
PECQUET@edu.ohio-state.mps
Penny Rheingans <rheingan@edu.unc.cs>
perelet@com.wri
Peter S. Shenkin <shenkin@edu.columbia.barnard.avogadro>
Phil Jeffrey <phil@com.bms.akiko>
Philip Machanick <philip@edu.stanford.mickey>
Philippe SUIGNARD  <philippe@fr.edf.der.cli52gs>
Phillip C. Chen <pchen@com.fai.fai>
Pierre MARTEL <martel@fr.cnet.issy>
Po Sum Chung -- ACF <chung@gov.nasa.arc.george>
R. AJAY KUMAR <AJAY@earn.tifrvax>
Ralph Milliff <milliff@edu.ucar.cgd.isis>
Randall Gallimore <randall@au.com.bhp.resntl>
Raul Essig <lizard@edu.ucsc.cats>
Richard Avila <avila@com.sgi.wpd.swinger>
Richard Ottolini <stgprao@com.unocal.st>
Rick Speer <speer@edu.colorado.cs.anchor>
Rob MacLeod <macleod@edu.utah.cvrti.vissgi>
Robert Allan Pette <pette@com.sgi.houst.iris32>
Robert DeMillo  <demillo@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Robert E. Minsk <ccoprrm@edu.gatech.prism>
Robert Hallowell <hal@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Robert Keller <rck@com.sgi.asd.fangio>
Robert Riviere <Robert.Riviere@fr.inria.sophia>
Robert Skinner <robert@com.sgi.asd.texas>
Roger Crawfis <crawfis@gov.llnl.ocf.ramius>
Roland Gordon-Beresford <roland@be.rubens>
Roland Schweitzer <roland@edu.unr.scs.unssun>
Ronald Jacoby <rj@com.sgi.wpd.squaw>
root@uk.ac.ic.me
Ruth White <bn244@edu.freenet.cleveland>
Scott Bolte <scott@com.craycos>
Scott Draves <spot@edu.cmu.cs.fox.cobol>
seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%fi.sgi@fi.fuug>
Seth Troxel  <setht@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Shannon Maher <shannon@com.sierra>
sillion@earn.frulm63
smant g.a. <smant@nl.nlr>
Sridhar Venkataraman <sridhar@edu.asu.eas.enuxha>
Stan Jensen <stanj@com.sgi.corp.ferrari>
Stefan Farestam <farestam@fr.cerfacs.orion>
Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) <stephen@mil.brl>
Steve Couturie <lhdsy1!fred.lahabra.chevron.com!shc@net.uu.uunet>
Steve Kim  <stevek@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Steve Larkin <LARKIN@uk.ac.mcc.cgu.v3>
Steve Olson  <olson@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
Steve Rooke <rooke@edu.noao>
Steve Rooke <rooke@edu.noao>
Steve Van Gorder <steve@edu.fsu.ocean.chaos>
Steve Woodyatt <steve@au.com.bhp.resntl>
Steven Anderson <standers@edu.umn.cs>
Steven H. Izen <steve@edu.cwru.math.pitacat>
Steven Kubica <kubica@edu.unm.eece.chama>
STOEFFLER Daniel <daniel@fr.u-strasbg.gemme>
Tad Guy <tadguy@gov.nasa.larc.ab00>
Technocrat  <mnhan@edu.washington.chem.keystone>
Thomas C. Palmer <palmer@org.ncsc>
Thomas Richter <richter@de.fu-berlin.chemie.ki1>
Tim Buckner <SYSTEM@edu.uab.cmc.orion>
Tim Monks <tim@au.com.bhp.resmel>
tim@ca.dnd.dciem.ben
Todd Shutts <shutts@com.gd.gdwest>
Tom Albrecht <tom@com.unisys.mdc.portland>
Tom Barton <trb@com.sgi.dallas.bettysue>
Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@com.mentorg.warren>
Tom Reed <treed@com.sgi.dallas.boy>
tom@edu.peachnet.skio
Tony Berke  <tonyb@edu.mit.ll.juliet>
U. Lang <Ulrich.Lang@de.uni-stuttgart.rus>
Vincent A. Frouhar <k0vaf@gov.nasa.gsfc.calvin>
Vincent LE BARAZER <vincent@com.cray.pastek>
Vivien Hannon, UCIS <HANNON@ca.dal.ac>
waldo@com.sgi.csd.odie
Wayne A. Vieira <waynev@gov.lanl.ranger>
Wayne Podaima <WJP@ca.nrc.vm>
westenberg g. <guido@nl.nlr>
william e lorensen <lorensen@com.ge.crd.ausable>
William J. Bouma <bouma@edu.purdue.cs>
William Sherman -Visualization <wsherman@edu.uiuc.ncsa>
Wizard of OZ <gary@com.sgi.asd.enigma>
zdenek@ch.cern.sun2

NO votes for comp.graphics.explorer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Richard H. Miller" <rick@edu.tmc.bcm.ssctr.crick>
Bill Owens <owens@edu.buffalo.cc.cookiemonster>
Cal Kirchhof <cal@com.cray.palm>
csc5sf@uk.ac.leeds.cif
dpm@uk.ac.leeds.scs
greg@uk.ac.leeds.scs
neilb@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Nicholas Wilt <npw@edu.dartmouth.coos>
shaun@uk.ac.leeds.scs
Stephen Bohus <clr@edu.toronto.dgp>
Steve Rogers <srogers@com.eds.tad>
T. Todd Elvins <todd@edu.sdsc>
timmy@uk.ac.leeds.scs
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: gordonc@epcc.ed.ac.uk
    oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'

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Request for Discussion (RFD)
============================

This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named :

		comp.graphics.explorer

What about the discussion ?
===========================
	This discussion will take place in the group :
		news.groups

If you're interested in taking part, this is the place to post to.
If you feel you have any comments, then please try and contribute.

Brief Description of Explorer
=============================
	IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by
SiliconGraphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any traditonal code.

IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and
it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be
ported to several machines in the near future. 

What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter) 
===================================================== 
	Part of the point of this posting is to try and talk over this very
question #:-}

	Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on
all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group
could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch
with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself.

Some Issues
===========
	It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the
possible issues include :
	(1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ?
		- should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or
		comp.sys.sgi.explorer ???
	(2) Is there sufficient interest ??
	(3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? (related to
		point 1)
	(4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ?
		- if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do
		admirably with comp.sys.sgi ?
	(5) Should the group be moderated ?

Other Options
=============
	...include the formation of a mailing list as an interim measure. Is
there any comment/interest in this ?

...and finally
==============
	I feel that Explorer constitutes an important tool for scientists
and engineers. The user-base has the potential to be vast, and indeed should
potentially include ALL SGI customers. 

With such a large potential user base, the scope for questions and
discussion is enormous, and a USENET group for this purpose I think would be
beneficial to users, module writers, and the Explorer developers. This
last group could benefit from immediate feedback from the users, and the
users in turn could feel that they have somewhere to ask questions, and
hopefully increase their productivity.

The mailing list
================
	If there is any interest in an alternative mailing list, could they
please mail the following address :
		explorer@epcc.ed.ac.uk
i.e. NOT my personal mail address #:-}

Any comments would be useful - please not too many flames :)
-- 
e|p Gordon Cameron				Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259)
c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre		Email: gordonc@uk.ac.ed.epcc

                   oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo

 
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