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Programming, Turbovision ( comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision )
From daves@vtucs.cc.vt.edu Mon Mar 29 20:32:27 1993
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From: daves@vtucs.cc.vt.edu (Dave Sisson)
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

Proposed: comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision

Proposed for discussion, the creation of the news group 
comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision for the purpose of discussing programming
with the TurboVision libraries provided by Borland International with their
C++ and Pascal compilers.  There is a currently a mailing list serving over
a hundred TurboVision programmers with its own anonymous FTP site.

The name comp.os.msdos.programmer.tv has also been suggested for this group.

Please send all replies, positive and negative to me for tally at
comments@darkwing.cc.vt.edu.  I will post the tallies in the 2nd RFD.
    Dave Sisson                          Join the TurboVision mailing list!

    Send a message with the body    -->    SUBSCRIBE TURBVIS My Name
    to listserv@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu today!

From daves@vtucs.cc.vt.edu Thu Apr 22 11:39:29 1993
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Subject: CFV: comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision
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CALL FOR VOTES: creation of comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision

A Request For Discussion was posted on 26 Mar 1993, and topics relating
to the creation of the group have been generally accepted. 


What is TurboVision?

TurboVision is a set of libraries that are currently provided with 
Borland C++ and Borland Pascal at no extra charge.  These libraries
have all the features necessary to make full-featured text-based
applications.  Since Borland C++ and Borland Pascal are only available
for MS-DOS machines, TurboVision is likewise restricted to DOS 

Details of the newsgroup

comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision (c.o.m.p.turbovision) will be an
unmoderated forum for both C++ and Pascal users.  This can be done because
the TurboVision environment is designed to be virtually identical in
both languages with only some slight syntax differences.


Voting will begin when this CFV is posted, and will end on May 21, 1993
at 23:59 EST. In order for the group to be created, there must be a 2/3
majority of yes votes to no votes, and there must be 100 more yes votes
than no votes.

To vote yes, send mail (no requirements on content) to:

To vote no, send mail (also no requirements on content) to:

All votes will receive an acknowledgement.  If there is a problem,
please DO NOT send mail to either of these addresses; send a message 
instead to the administrator of the vote (listed below).

All votes will receive an immediate acknowledgement.  No anonymous votes
will be accepted.  If you wish to change your vote, mail a new vote; only 
the most recent vote by a user will be counted.

If you have problems, questions, or comments, please mail them to:
The vote administrator will attempt to respond as quickly as possible.

Over this period, two additional CFVs will be posted, along with
a secondary acknowledgement of valid votes.

From daves@megavolt.cc.vt.edu Fri May 28 18:11:36 1993
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From: daves@megavolt.cc.vt.edu (David Sisson)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision passes 222:31
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VOTE SUMMARY: creation of comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision

     222 yes   votes
      31 no    votes
     253 total votes

"A.A. Olowofoyeku" <laa12%seq1.keele.ac.uk@ib.rl.ac.uk>              yes 
"Andre Strydom"  <CSBAS@CS.UPE.AC.ZA>                                yes
"Benjamin Beberness"  <Beberness@newton.jsc.nasa.gov>                yes
"Chris J. Wein" <cjwein@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca>                         yes
"David Ludovici" <ludo@vnet.IBM.COM>                                 yes
"Deviasse Robert N." <g2devi@cdf.toronto.edu>                        yes
"Geoffrey D. Bennett" <geoffrey@tafe.sa.edu.au>                      yes
"Gerrit Conradie"  <CONRADIE@firga.sun.ac.za>                        yes
"Howard Glynn (Jun Hons)" <hglynn@mcs.dundee.ac.uk>                  yes
"Joi L. Ellis" <msjle@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>                               yes
"Juha Javanainen, atk-tsto, p. 4744 443" <JJAVANAINEN@nphi.fi>       yes
"KIRK M. ODLE" <CSCI03BB@CL.UH.EDU>                                  yes
"Loren J. Miller" <MILLERL@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU>                  yes
"M. Otto" <OTTO@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>                                    no
"Mark A. Stinson" <UC527103@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>                    yes
"Michael R. Henry" <mrhenry@eng.umd.edu>                             yes
"Na'im Ru" <njr@reef.cis.ufl.edu>                                    yes
"Nguyen, Yung" <YNguyen@cmutual.com.au>                              yes
"Pedro"  <PEDRO@golem.umcs.lublin.pl>                                yes
"Rex Cooper"  <COOPER@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>                        yes
"Rick Wayne" <WAYNE@express.uwex.edu>                                yes
"Robert C. Kohlbus"  <RKOHLBUS@dining.umd.edu>                       yes
"Roy Engehausen (8-457-2712)" <enge@almaden.ibm.com>                 no
"Stan Howald" <HOWALD@wisplan.uwex.wisc.edu>                         yes
"Stern Marc - Philips I.T.S. S.A." <stern@MBLE.PHILIPS.BE>           yes
"pozn2v::swierzko"%PLPOTU51.bitnet@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu                   yes
(Bill McGonigle) <flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu>                       yes
9104812@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Scott McCallum)                        yes
<mnilsson@elixir.e.kth.se>                                           yes
A09376@vm.cc.metu.edu.tr                                             yes
ALUMNI107@camins.Camosun.BC.CA                                       yes
Adam Goldberg <adam@microware.com>                                   yes
Ahmed Al-Ashabb <ahmed@snow.lut.ac.uk>                               no
Al Lione <LION5171@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>                        no
Alex van Gulik <alex@dutiea.twi.tudelft.nl>                          yes
Andreas Stuebinger <stuebing@fmi.uni-passau.de>                      yes
Andrew Maltsev <andrew@ross.oryol.su>                                yes
Anthony C.T. Chan <chana@rpi.edu>                                    yes
BENNY SHOMER 9238 <pc386@ccsg.tau.ac.il>                             yes
Borut.Korenjak@IJS.si                                                yes
CHIQPC@puknet.puk.ac.za (CHIQPC)                                     yes
Charles Evans <cee1@Ra.MsState.Edu>                                  yes
Charles_Hatch@Novell.COM (Hatch, Charles)                            yes
Christopher Phillips <phillips@ctron.com>                            yes
Christopher Ward <cward@Think.COM>                                   no
Chrons Otto <c142092@cc.tut.fi>                                      yes
DERNIS@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU                                         yes
David Marteinson <david.marteinson@canrem.com>                       yes
David Reeve Sward <sward+@cmu.edu>                                   yes
Dirk Herr-Hoyman <hoymand@joe.uwex.edu>                              yes
Eran Davidov <s2525090@techst02.technion.ac.il>                      yes
Erkki P|yh|nen <epoyhone@tele.nokia.fi>                              yes
FINGER@ctpsun.ciw.edu                                                yes
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu                                               no
Feroz Khan <KHANF@cc.und.ac.za>                                      yes
Frank Stajano <fms@cam-orl.co.uk>                                    yes
G.Simpson@bham.ac.uk                                                 no
GREAHAM DARIN DONA <greaham@a.cs.okstate.edu>                        yes
H.Kessels@BIOCH.RULIMBURG.NL                                         yes
Haluk Zontul <A11442@vm.cc.metu.edu.tr>                              yes
Harry Miller <hmiller@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu>                           yes
I.M.Clark@cen.ex.ac.uk                                               yes
JPF6745@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU (John Paul Fullerton)                         yes
Jac Kersing <kersing@the-box.iaf.nl>                                 yes
Jacqueline Duquesne  <Jacqueline.Duquesne@sophia.inria.fr>           yes
James Vincent Schultz <js3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>                         no
Jan Eivind Stillingen <JANES@dhhalden.no>                            yes
Jean-Marc.Lasgouttes@inria.fr                                        yes
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a <al198723@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>          yes
John Max Skaller <maxtal@physics.su.OZ.AU>                           yes
Karl Gudmunds <KARLG%ERS.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>                     yes
Karpenko Yuriy Arnoldovich <ura@mercury.kiev.ua>                     yes
Kevin Gross <kvng@csn.org>                                           no
Lee Crites <leec@cpu.us.dynix.com>                                   yes
Leo "F." Rog <rog@dutiosa.twi.tudelft.nl>                            yes
Lutz Kotoll <inlk@verleihnix.rz.tu-clausthal.de>                     yes
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>                              no
Mark Harrison <harrison@lclark.edu>                                  yes
Michael Alan Corn <macg9505@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>                        yes
Michael M. Terekhov <temm@mz.pti.spb.su>                             yes
Mircea Malarski <nmm@rz.uni-jena.de>                                 yes
Morgan Stair <Morgan_Stair@dl5000.bc.edu>                            yes
Morgan.Lindqvist@ludd.luth.se                                        yes
NSHAMAW@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA                                             yes
Nick Waltham <Nick.Waltham@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>                         yes
Nigel the Lemur <nlemur@eecs.umich.edu>                              yes
Paul Prescod <papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>                  yes
Per Erik Rolstad <perro@ifi.uio.no>                                  yes
Peter.Cigehn@ludd.luth.se                                            yes
R.J.Streng@duticai.twi.tudelft.nl (R.J. Streng)                      yes
ROBERTSON@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU                                             yes
Randy Austin <austin@nes.nersc.gov>                                  yes
Rob Knauerhase <knauer@cs.uiuc.edu>                                  no
Rolf Waechter <ASI133@ZAM001.ZAM.KFA-JUELICH.DE>                     yes
Roth <roth@oasys.dt.navy.mil>                                        no
SKLEPZI@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU (Steven Klepzig)                          yes
STEVEN ADAMS <ADAMS@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>                            yes
SYSVERA@Vaxtbio.uu.se (Vera Noest)                                   yes
Sam Adams <ADAMS@scri.fsu.edu>                                       yes
Sanche Neal Andrew <neal@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>                       yes
Schmidt Guido <schmidt@rz.uni-passau.de>                             yes
Scott Howard <c9219517@frey.newcastle.edu.au>                        yes
Shaun Abshere <ABSHERE@wisplan.uwex.wisc.edu>                        yes
Steph <CT80%POLYTEC1.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>                         yes
Stephen Brown <Stephen.Brown@lambada.oit.unc.edu>                    yes
TCSMITH@mta.ca (_[Pv~P]->?_)                                         yes
TUMU_SAI%BENTLEY.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu                               yes
Tod B Bussert <tbbusser@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>                yes
Tom Swingle <tswingle@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>                          yes
Ulf Axelsson <d2axeul@dtek.chalmers.se>                              yes
WISPLAN/608-262-4552 <JANSEN@wisplan.uwex.wisc.edu>                  yes
Walter.Greubel@esat.kuleuven.ac.be                                   yes
Yaniv Golan <s2942275@techst02.technion.ac.il>                       yes
Youren Guo <yguo@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>                                yes
aa863@freenet.carleton.ca                                            yes
acbraun@leland.Stanford.EDU                                          yes
ad@cat.de (Axel Dunkel)                                              yes
adcmail!jasons@uu4.psi.com (Jason Smith)                             yes
adjihc4@cti.ecp.fr (Cedric ADJIH)                                    yes
ahoeven@fwi.uva.nl (Andre van der Hoeven (I89))                      yes
akroev@adh.no (Arne Knut R|v)                                        yes
auyeungt@cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (Tim AuYeung 288-9212)                   yes
bastaeni@clio.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Bastaenier)                     yes
bc770@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (George Burgyan)                         yes
berend@contrast.wlink.nl                                             yes
billb@sahuaro.win.net (William Ronald Bernat)                        yes
bjarnit@isbank.is (Bjarni Thorbjornsson)                             yes
bradb@plaza.ds.adp.com                                               yes
brian@shell.portal.com (Brian T Fudge)                               yes
cambler@cymbal.calpoly.edu                                           yes
chalekcl@voyager.crd.ge.com (Carl Chalek)                            yes
chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)                               yes
chris@sulaw.law.su.OZ.AU (Chris Hutchinson)                          yes
christbr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Brian Christman)                      yes
cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)                                   yes
cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu                                       no
cmarble@fenris.claremont.edu (Chris Marble)                          no
cooper@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (COOPER R)                             yes
d91-pbr@nada.kth.se                                                  yes
da@coombs.anu.edu.au (Daniel Austin)                                 yes
dack@permanet.org (dack)                                             yes
dave@Tygra.Michigan.COM (David Conrad)                               yes
daves@vt.edu                                                         yes
diku0047@diku.dk                                                     yes
dmurdoch@mast.QueensU.CA (Duncan Murdoch)                            yes
dom@oasis.icl.co.uk (dominic alston)                                 yes
dpayton@qcinet.gwinnett.com                                          yes
dpl@aberystwyth.ac.uk                                                yes
dunn@kingcrab.nrl.navy.mil (Kevin Dunn)                              yes
dwake@nile.ics.Hawaii.Edu (B. Douglas Wake)                          yes
dwm@sound.demon.co.uk                                                yes
e87fab@efd.lth.se (/usr/spool/mail/e87fab)                           yes
eigil@bibsyst.no (Eigil Bj|rgum)                                     yes
emamid@athena.ecs.csus.edu (David Emami)                             yes
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)                               no
endzone@fubar.cs.montana.edu (David Gentry)                          yes
ewebster@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric Webster)                                yes
eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad)                           yes
f_dibbel@quarz.hanse.de  (Fred Dibbel)                               yes
fjh@cs.mu.OZ.AU                                                      yes
franklig@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU (Gregory C Franklin )                   yes
gabriel@netcom.com (Gabriel Beccar-Varela)                           yes
gaw@slsvftt.us-es.sel.de( (Thomas Gawehns \(\) US/ESI)               yes
gc@edi.com (George Chisa)                                            yes
ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US                                              no
goldstej@nms.otc.com.au (Johnathon Goldstein)                        yes
gomboc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Gomboc)                               yes
grants@syacus.acus.oz.au (Grant Sayer)                               yes
grimes@netcom.com (George Grimes)                                    yes
gross@aecds.exchi.uni-heidelberg.de (Dr. W. Gross)                   yes
gwb@umd5.umd.edu                                                     no
hallch@CS.ColoState.EDU (christopher hall)                           yes
hch@oclc.org (Curtis Hunter)                                         yes
hdupless@stellenbos.csir.co.za                                       yes
hendrik.lipka@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de (Hendrik Lipka)              yes
hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu (Herbert M Petro)                            no
ins281t@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel May)                       yes
jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)                    yes
jd@ssrusol1.city.ac.uk (John Douglas)                                yes
jhaide@novdpd.dpd.austin.novell.com (Janos Haide)                    yes
jhaines@coombs.anu.edu.au                                            yes
jlohr@diku.dk                                                        yes
johng@cres1.anu.edu.au                                               yes
jwl@mmesb.cray.com (Jim Lynch 404-631-2254)                          yes
kameleon@fubar.cs.montana.edu (/usr/spool/mail/kameleon)             yes
khomut@nusun.jinr.dubna.su                                           yes
knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu                                           yes
koopal@fwi.uva.nl (Andre Koopal)                                     yes
lam@umcc.umich.edu (Robert A. Lamerand)                              yes
larryj@was.waii.com (Larry Jones)                                    yes
lee_walton.050.070$mailgate@zombie.demon.co.uk (Lee Walton)          yes
liang@ulysses.att.com                                                no
ljwilson@cs.utk.edu                                                  yes
lotter@cc.und.ac.za (Eddie Lotter)                                   yes
malloth@lsesun4.epfl.ch (Christoph MALLOTH)                          yes
manfred@mjmnode.equinox.gen.nz (Manfred Marriott)                    yes
marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Marc Slemko)                       yes
mav@asd470.dseg.ti.com (Michael Vincze)                              no
mavmav@mksol.dseg.ti.com (michael a vincze)                          no
mbaker@pax.tpa.com.au (Michael Baker)                                yes
mbfarah@isluga.puc.cl (Miguel Farah F.)                              yes
mholmes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Mark L. Holmes)                           yes
mholtz@netcom.com (Mark Holtz)                                       yes
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU                                               no
mmcfadden@dpsc.dla.mil                                               yes
moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)                                   no
nauta@NIOZ.NL (Jan Nauta)                                            yes
null@diku.dk                                                         yes
pcamill3@mach1.wlu.ca (paul camilleri U)                             yes
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)                        no
pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu                                              yes
phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Hartmut Frommert)                        yes
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)                        no
pmagnus@bcr3.uwaterloo.ca                                            yes
prikryl@diku.dk                                                      yes
pseudo!mjn@uunet.UU.NET (Murray Nesbitt)                             no
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU                                               yes
rama1ho@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Glenn S Ramalho)                       yes
rds95@csc.albany.edu                                                 yes
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au                                                     yes
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)                     no
rob@Pomegranate.COM (Rob Duncan)                                     yes
ronnyh@edb.tih.no (Ronny Hanssen)                                    yes
ruhl@sun1.imbi.uni-freiburg.de (Matthias Ruhl - Med. Inf.)           yes
runehh@dhhalden.no (RUNE HALFDAN HOLST HUSEBY)                       yes
s48153119%vax9k.dnet@nchud1.nchu.edu.tw (Alex Yu)                    yes
sartin@88open.org (Rob Sartin)                                       yes
sbaron@weber.ucsd.edu (Stephen Baron)                                yes
schaf901@uidaho.edu (Schafer Jeffrey)                                yes
shane@spr.com                                                        no
shogun@diku.dk                                                       yes
shores@sam.jsc.nasa.gov (David Shores/Metrica)                       yes
skchang@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (Shin Chang)                        yes
smadej@ii.uj.edu.pl (Szymon Madej)                                   yes
spm2d@maple.cs.virginia.edu                                          no
srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)                                   no
stoney@oyster.smcm.edu                                               yes
tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)                                 no
tls@burl.att.com                                                     yes
tmo@rieska.oulu.fi (Tero Molander)                                   yes
todd@polaris.async.vt.edu (Todd Perry)                               yes
tony@atto.engr.mun.ca (Anthony H Galway)                             yes
tpesce@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Tim Pesce)                            yes
tqt1409@cs.tamu.edu (Tim Q Tran)                                     yes
tronow@lri.fr                                                        yes
troy@graphon.com (Troy Morrison)                                     yes
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)                                             yes
uday@inuxz.att.com                                                   yes
vuong@masi.ibp.fr (VUONG Huu Nghia)                                  yes
watson@sce.carleton.ca (Stephen Watson)                              yes
wilks@cix.compulink.co.uk                                            yes
yogi%csa.cs.technion.ac.il@taunivm.tau.ac.il (Yossi Gil)             yes
yst@houston.geoquest.slb.com (Yuan Sylvia Tien)                      yes

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