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From [email protected] Wed Mar  8 19:02:18 1995
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
                   reorganization of comp.os.os2.*

INTRODUCTION:

   This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creating of five OS/2
   newsgroups and the splitting of two existing ones into seven:

      * create comp.os.os2.marketplace
      * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.{www, mail-news, misc}
      * create comp.os.os2.comm
      * split comp.os.os2.setup into {video, storage, install, misc}
      * split comp.os.os2.apps into {word-proc, utilities, misc}

   A pointer to this article will be cross-posted to:
      * comp.os.os2.setup
      * comp.os.os2.apps
      * comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip


RATIONALE:

   Usenet traffic is getting bigger and bigger, and OS/2-related traffic is
   not exempt.  With approximately 13,000 posts (according to the Usenet
   Readership Report for Jan 95) in comp.os.os2.{networking.tcp-ip, apps,
   setup} combined, there is a need to split these OS/2 newsgroups into more
   managable pieces.  Here are the number of posts per month according to the
   Usenet Readership Report for June 94 as compared to January 95:

      Newsgroup                           Jun 94  Jan 95
      comp.os.os2.apps                      1883  4309
      comp.os.os2.setup                     1013  5186
      comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip          933  3688

   As a comparison, here are the number of posts per month for equivalent
   MS Windows newsgroups (each number for comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* is the
   sum of comp.os.ms-windows.apps.{word-proc, utilities, comm, financial,
   misc}):

      Newsgroup                           Jun 94  Jan 95
      comp.os.ms-windows.apps.*             2695  4011
      comp.os.ms-windows.setup               829  1204
      comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip   845  1087

   OS/2 Warp 3 (the one that can use your existing unoptimized version of
   Windows made by Microsoft, but I will call it Red Warp due to the red
   spine of its package) and OS/2 Warp 3 with DOS/Windows (the one that
   includes a version of Windows that has been optimized by IBM--I will call
   it Blue Warp for the blue spine) both include BonusPak.  BonusPak is a
   variety of software ranging from a "works" package to an Internet
   Connection package.  Red Warp, which has been on PC Magazine's Top Ten list
   four times (reaching the number one spot twice), has caused a surge in the
   number of posts in the OS/2 newsgroups since its release last year.
   Traffic is expected to further increase with the recently-released Blue
   Warp, as well as upcoming versions of Warp for SMP, Warp with bundled
   networking support, and Warp for PowerPC.

   Therefore, it is proposed to create new OS/2 newsgroups and split up some
   existing ones.  The existing comp.os.os2.setup newsgroup would be split
   into comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, installation, misc} to discuss
   video hardware/drivers, disk/tape hardware/drivers, installing/tweaking
   OS/2, and miscellaneous hardware/drivers.  The existing comp.os.os2.apps
   would be split into comp.os.os2.apps.{word-proc, utilities, misc} to
   discuss running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 word processors, utilities, and
   miscellaneous software under OS/2.

   On comp.os.os2.misc there was discussion of two different plans on where
   multimedia and communications newsgroups were to be placed.  The first plan
   split each into the setup and apps hierarchy.  The second plan had each as
   a specialized newsgroup combining setup and apps together.  Here are the
   plans:

   Plan #1:
      * rename comp.os.os2.apps.multimedia (from comp.os.os2.multimedia)
      * create comp.os.os2.setup.multimedia
      * create comp.os.os2.apps.comm
      * create comp.os.os2.setup.comm

   Plan #2:
      * leave comp.os.os2.multimedia as is
      * create comp.os.os2.comm

   The comp.os.os2.misc readers decided that Plan #2 was better because
   it was simpler, as well as avoided unneeded crossposting.  Therefore,
   comp.os.os2.comm is proposed.

   The creation of comp.os.os2.marketplace is also proposed.  This newsgroup
   would filter OS/2-related advertisements, employment offerings/resumes,
   forsale/wanted, and price of OS/2 products discussions from other OS/2
   newsgroups.  As a bonus, it would reduce crossposting among the other
   newsgroups (e.g. "I went to <store selling OS/2 software> yesterday and
   they had <OS/2 word processor>, <OS/2 compiler>, and <OS/2 comm software>
   on sale!!!!").

   The Internet Connection package in the BonusPak has generated much traffic.
   This package contains a license for Web Explorer, NewsReader/2, Ultimedia
   Mail/2 Lite, and other networking software.  It is proposed to create
   comp.os.os2.networking.apps.{www, mail-news, misc} to discuss OS/2-related
   WWW software, mail and news software, and miscellaneous networking
   software.  These newgroups would be placed in comp.os.os2.networking.apps.*
   rather than comp.os.os2.apps.networking.* because network software belongs
   in the networking hierarchy in the same way programmer's software belongs
   in the programmer hierarchy.


CHARTERS:

   * create comp.os.os2.marketplace
   Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services:
      a) "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products
      b) Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services
      c) Commercial product/service advertisements
      d) Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes

   * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.www
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide
   Web (WWW) browsers under OS/2.

   * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.mail-news
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and
   news software under OS/2.

   * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.misc
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 networking
   apps and utilities under OS/2 that are not covered in other OS/2
   networking newsgroups (eg telnet, ping, etc).

   * create comp.os.os2.comm
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers
   (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem
   software under OS/2.

   * create comp.os.os2.setup.video
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of video hardware/drivers.

   * create comp.os.os2.setup.storage
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, and tape-backup
   hardware/drivers (including drive controllers).  Note that discussion of
   CD-ROM drives (as well as sound cards, multimedia upgrade kits, and
   multimedia software) still belong in comp.os.os2.multimedia.

   * create comp.os.os2.setup.install
   Unmoderated discussion of installing OS/2:
      a) Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems.
      b) Installation tips and problem solving.
      c) Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs.
         FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc).
      d) "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size,
         system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.)

   * rename comp.os.os2.setup.misc (from comp.os.os2.setup)
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in
   other OS/2 newsgroups (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, etc).  Note that
   discussion of CD-ROM and sound card issues belongs in the existing
   comp.os.os2.multimedia.

   * create comp.os.os2.apps.word-proc
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 word processors
   under OS/2, including the word processing specific module of "works" and
   "suites".

   * create comp.os.os2.apps.utilities
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 utilities
   (e.g. backup, archivers, screen savers, virus scanners, etc) under OS/2.

   * rename comp.os.os2.apps.misc (from comp.os.os2.apps)
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 applications under
   OS/2 that are not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups.  Note that discussion
   of programmer software belongs in the appropriate comp.os.os2.programmer.*
   newsgroup, and discussion of multimedia software belongs in
   comp.os.os2.multimedia.


SCHEDULE:

   The proposed newsgroups were discussed on the OS/2 newsgroups throughout
   February.  The discussion period is expected to last approximately 30 days
   starting with the day this RFD is posted.  The voting period is expected
   to begin shortly after the discussion period is over--do not vote until
   the Call For Votes (CFV) is posted.  I plan to have the Usenet Volunteer
   Votetakers (UVV) handle the votetaking procedure.
-- 
Mike Levis - OS/2 Warp 3
[email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Mar 22 16:18:30 1995
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From: [email protected] (Mike Levis)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.os.os2 reorganization
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                      2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
                   reorganization of comp.os.os2.*

INTRODUCTION:

   This is the second Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of five
   new OS/2 newsgroups and the splitting of one into three (all eight of the
   proposals are unmoderated):

      * create comp.os.os2.marketplace
      * create comp.os.os2.networking.www
      * create comp.os.os2.mail-news
      * create comp.os.os2.comm
      * create comp.os.os2.utilities
      * split comp.os.os2.setup into c.o.o.setup.{video, storage, misc}

   A pointer to this article will be cross-posted to:
      * comp.os.os2.setup
      * comp.os.os2.apps
      * comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip

   This RFD contains sections on:  changes from the 1st RFD; newsgroup lines;
   rationale; charters; future hierarchy structure; and a schedule.


CHANGES FROM 1st RFD:

   Based on feedback from the 1st RFD, here are the changes to the 2nd RFD:

      * Creating comp.os.os2.networking.apps.{www, mail-news, misc} has been
        changed to comp.os.os2.networking.www and comp.os.os2.mail-news.
        Respondents did not like the "apps" branch because networking apps
        are also hardware/driver dependent (much like communication apps are).
        Respondents also did not like "mail-news" to be in the "networking"
        branch because offline mail/news software did not use networking.
        The traffic that was to go in the proposed c.o.o.networking.apps.misc
        group will remain in the existing c.o.o.networking.tcp-ip.

      * Creating comp.os.os2.apps.{word-proc, utilities, misc} has been
        changed to comp.os.os2.utilities.  Respondents did not like the
        "word-proc" branch because of potential cross-posting in discussions
        of, say, linking documents with spreadsheets, for example.  As for
        the "utilities" branch, utilities are not really apps.  Utilities
        allow the users to use their computers better, while apps are reasons
        for buying a computer in the first place.  For example, people don't
        buy computers to run screen savers or virus scanners; they buy
        computers to run word processors and spreadsheets.

      * Creating comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, install, misc} has been
        changed to just comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, misc}.  Respondents
        felt that the "install" branch was somewhat redundant with the "misc"
        branch, so now they are combined into just "misc".

      * Some the the charters of the groups have been clarified.  Also,
        the charter for comp.os.os2.setup.storage now includes discussion
        of CD-ROM drive issues since not everyone that uses CD-ROM drives
        is also interested in multimedia issues.

      * A section for the newsgroup lines and another section for what the
        OS/2 newsgroup hierarchy would look like have been added.


NEWSGROUP LINES:

   Here are the newsgroup lines.  I forgot to include them in the 1st RFD
   although they are not required until the CFV.  Including them now in the
   RFD stage will allow feedback on them.  Note that the format is the
   newsgroup name, a tab character, and a brief description of the newsgroup
   (all must be less than 80 characters).

comp.os.os2.marketplace	forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings
comp.os.os2.networking.www	World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.mail-news	Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2
comp.os.os2.comm	Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.video	Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.storage	Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.misc	Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers
comp.os.os2.utilities	General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc)


RATIONALE:

   Usenet traffic is getting bigger and bigger, and OS/2-related traffic is
   not exempt.  With approximately 13,000 posts (according to the Usenet
   Readership Report for Jan 95) in comp.os.os2.{networking.tcp-ip, apps,
   setup} combined, there is a need to split these OS/2 newsgroups into more
   managable pieces.  Here are the number of posts per month according to the
   Usenet Readership Report for June 94 as compared to January 95:

      Newsgroup                           Jun 94  Jan 95
      comp.os.os2.apps                      1883  4309
      comp.os.os2.setup                     1013  5186
      comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip          933  3688

   As a comparison, here are the number of posts per month for equivalent
   MS Windows newsgroups (each number for comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* is the
   sum of comp.os.ms-windows.apps.{word-proc, utilities, comm, financial,
   misc}):

      Newsgroup                           Jun 94  Jan 95
      comp.os.ms-windows.apps.*             2695  4011
      comp.os.ms-windows.setup               829  1204
      comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip   845  1087

   OS/2 Warp 3 (the one that can use your existing unoptimized version of
   Windows made by Microsoft, but I will call it Red Warp due to the red
   spine of its package) and OS/2 Warp 3 with DOS/Windows (the one that
   includes a version of Windows that has been optimized by IBM--I will call
   it Blue Warp for the blue spine) both include BonusPak.  BonusPak is a
   variety of software ranging from a "works" package to an Internet
   Connection package.  Red Warp, which has been on PC Magazine's Top Ten list
   four times (reaching the number one spot twice), has caused a surge in the
   number of posts in the OS/2 newsgroups since its release last year.
   Traffic is expected to further increase with the recently-released Blue
   Warp, as well as upcoming versions of Warp for SMP, Warp Connect (Warp
   with bundled networking support), and Warp for PowerPC.

   Therefore, it is proposed to create new OS/2 newsgroups and split up one
   existing one.  The existing comp.os.os2.setup newsgroup would be split
   into comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, misc} to discuss video hardware/
   drivers, disk/tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers, and miscellaneous setup issues
   (such as installing OS/2 and miscellaneous hardware/drivers).

   The creation of comp.os.os2.utilities is proposed for the discussion of
   running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 utilities such as screen savers, virus
   scanners, compressors (both manual ones like Info-ZIP and automatic ones
   like Stacker), backup software, alternative shells, etc.

   On comp.os.os2.misc there was discussion of two different plans on where
   multimedia and communications newsgroups were to be placed.  The first plan
   split each into the setup and apps hierarchy.  The second plan had each as
   a specialized newsgroup combining setup and apps together.  Here are the
   plans:

   Plan #1:
      * rename comp.os.os2.apps.multimedia (from comp.os.os2.multimedia)
      * create comp.os.os2.setup.multimedia
      * create comp.os.os2.apps.comm
      * create comp.os.os2.setup.comm

   Plan #2:
      * leave comp.os.os2.multimedia as is
      * create comp.os.os2.comm

   The comp.os.os2.misc readers decided that Plan #2 was better because
   it was simpler, as well as avoided unneeded crossposting.  Therefore,
   comp.os.os2.comm is proposed.

   The creation of comp.os.os2.marketplace is also proposed.  This newsgroup
   would filter OS/2-related advertisements, employment offerings/resumes,
   forsale/wanted, and price of OS/2 products discussions from other OS/2
   newsgroups.  As a bonus, it would reduce crossposting among the other
   newsgroups (e.g. "I went to <store selling OS/2 software> yesterday and
   they had <OS/2 word processor>, <OS/2 compiler>, and <OS/2 comm software>
   on sale!!!!").

   The Internet Connection package in the BonusPak has generated much traffic.
   This package contains a license for Web Explorer, NewsReader/2, Ultimedia
   Mail/2 Lite, and other networking software.  It is proposed to create
   comp.os.os2.{networking.www, mail-news} to discuss OS/2-related WWW
   software, and mail and news software (discussion of other TCP/IP-related
   networking apps and utils will remain in comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip).
   comp.os.os2.networking.www would be placed in the "networking" branch
   rather than the "apps" branch because network software belongs in the
   networking hierarchy in the same way programmer's software belongs in the
   programmer hierarchy.  comp.os.os2.mail-news would not be placed in the
   "networking" branch because offline mail/news reading software do not use
   networking.


CHARTERS:

   * create comp.os.os2.marketplace
   Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services:
      - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products
      - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services
      - Commercial product/service advertisements
      - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes
   Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in
   magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belong in
   comp.os.os2.advocacy.

   * create comp.os.os2.networking.www
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web
   (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software
   would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW
   site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta)
   because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based
   browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup.

   * create comp.os.os2.mail-news
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news
   apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2.  Discussion
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

   * create comp.os.os2.comm
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers
   (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem
   apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service"
   providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under
   OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

   * create comp.os.os2.setup.video
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers.
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs
   in comp.os.os2.multimedia.

   * create comp.os.os2.setup.storage
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive,
   and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers).
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

   * rename comp.os.os2.setup.misc (from comp.os.os2.setup)
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as
   well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups
   (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU
   and SMP motherboards, etc).  Installation issues can include:
      - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including
        minimum system requirements.
      - Installation tips and problem solving.
      - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs.
        FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc).
      - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size,
        system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.)
   Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

   * create comp.os.os2.utilities
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose
   utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus
   scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and
   specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2.  A loose definition of a
   utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run
   better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve
   computer problems.  Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g.  networking-
   specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source
   code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here.
   Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs,
   etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps.  Discussion of general-purpose utilities
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes


FUTURE HIERARCHY STRUCTURE:

   If all the proposals were to pass, here is a summary of how the
   unmoderated OS/2 discussion newsgroups would look like:

   c.o.o.marketplace:          (NEW) forsale/wanted; shopping; ads; jobs

   c.o.o.networking.www:       (NEW) Running WWW apps/utils
   c.o.o.networking.tcp-ip:    General setup; running misc apps/utils
   c.o.o.networking.misc:      Non-TCP/IP networking issues

   c.o.o.comm:                 (NEW) Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils

   c.o.o.mail-news:            (NEW) Running mail/news apps/utils

   c.o.o.setup.video:          (NEW) Base video hardware/drivers
   c.o.o.setup.storage:        (NEW) Disk/tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers
   c.o.o.setup.misc:           (RENAME) Installing OS/2; misc hardware/drivers

   c.o.o.games:                Running games and game utils

   c.o.o.programmer.porting:   Cross-platform tools/programming/libs (eg OWL)
   c.o.o.programmer.oop:       SOM/Opendoc tools/programming
   c.o.o.programmer.tools:     Running general programming apps/utils
   c.o.o.programmer.misc:      General programming

   c.o.o.multimedia:           Sound cards; video/audio record/edit/play

   c.o.o.advocacy:             Pros and cons of OS/2 vs. other OSes/OEs
   c.o.o.apps:                 Running general-purpose apps
   c.o.o.utilities:            (NEW) Running general-purpose utils
   c.o.o.beta:                 OS/2 beta/gamma testing; feature requests
   c.o.o.bugs:                 System (not driver) bugs; ServicePaks & FixPaks
   c.o.o.misc:                 Anything not covered by other OS/2 newsgroups


SCHEDULE:

   Pre-RFD discussion occurred on the OS/2 newgroups in February.  After
   the 1st RFD was posted on March 9, discussion on news.groups indicated
   a need to change the RFD.  This 2nd RFD reflects those changes.  If this
   2nd RFD is successful, then the voting period is expected to begin
   sometime between March 30 through April 9.  I plan to have the Usenet
   Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) handle the votetaking procedure.
-- 
Mike Levis - OS/2 Warp 3
[email protected]

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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		comp.os.os2.comm unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.mail-news unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.marketplace unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.networking.www unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.setup.misc unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.setup.video unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.setup.storage unmoderated
		comp.os.os2.utilities unmoderated

Newsgroups lines:
comp.os.os2.comm	Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.mail-news	Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2
comp.os.os2.marketplace	forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings
comp.os.os2.networking.www	World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.misc	Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers
comp.os.os2.setup.video	Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.storage	Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.utilities	General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Mike Levis <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS

comp.os.os2.comm
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers
   (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem
   apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service"
   providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under
   OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.mail-news
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news
   apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2.  Discussion
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.marketplace
   Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services:
      - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products (e.g. OS/2 books,
        OS/2 software, OS/2 itself, OS/2-imprinted umbrellas, etc)
      - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services
      - Commercial product/service advertisements
      - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes
   Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in
   magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belongs in
   comp.os.os2.advocacy.

comp.os.os2.networking.www
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web
   (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software
   would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW
   site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta)
   because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based
   browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup.

comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup)
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as
   well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups
   (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU
   and SMP motherboards, etc).  Installation issues can include:
      - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including
        minimum system requirements.
      - Installation tips and problem solving.
      - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs.
        FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc).
      - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size,
        system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.)
   Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.setup.storage
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive,
   and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers).
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.setup.video
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers.
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs
   in comp.os.os2.multimedia.

comp.os.os2.utilities
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose
   utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus
   scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and
   specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2.  A loose definition of a
   utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run
   better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve
   computer problems.  Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g.  networking-
   specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source
   code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here.
   Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs,
   etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps.  Discussion of general-purpose utilities
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

RATIONALE

Ever since the release last year of "Red" Warp (with BonusPak containing
software such as Internet access), the traffic on the OS/2 newsgroups has
soared.  Here are the numbers for posts per month (obtained from the Usenet
Readership Report) for OS/2 newsgroups that are affected by this CFV.  The
combined number of posts per month rises from 3829 to 13183.  Numbers for
equivalent MS-Windows newsgroups are included for comparison, which rise
>from 4369 to only 6302.

      Newsgroup                           Jun 94  Jan 95
      comp.os.os2.apps                      1883  4309
      comp.os.os2.setup                     1013  5186
      comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip          933  3688
      comp.os.ms-windows.apps.*             2695  4011
      comp.os.ms-windows.setup               829  1204
      comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip   845  1087

The proposals in this CFV will allow OS/2 users (whether using "Borg" 2.11,
"Ferengi" 2.11, "Red" Warp 3, or "Blue" Warp 3) to read about a particular
subject rather than wade through 400 articles per day (this number does not
even include traffic from OS/2 newsgroups not affected by this CFV).  Those
interested in reading the entire rationale can read the "2nd RFD" portion of
the file
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.os.os2.marketplace

HOW TO VOTE

You must send MAIL to [email protected]  (Posting in a newsgroup does not
constitute a vote.)  Just replying to this article should work unless you
are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address.

Please remove text before the marker line below.  Voting mail is archived
by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space.

Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group.
If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone.
You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts.
Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X.  The votes are tabulated by a
program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same
line as the name of the group.

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.os.os2 reorg Ballot    <COS2-0001> (Don't remove this marker)

Please give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.os.os2.comm
[         ]  comp.os.os2.mail-news
[         ]  comp.os.os2.marketplace
[         ]  comp.os.os2.networking.www
[         ]  comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup)
[         ]  comp.os.os2.setup.video
[         ]  comp.os.os2.setup.storage
[         ]  comp.os.os2.utilities
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

From [email protected] Wed Apr 26 19:39:06 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce,comp.os.os2.setup
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.os2 reorganization
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 26 Apr 1995 15:22:43 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 202
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 11 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6707 news.groups:146417 comp.os.os2.announce:1391 comp.os.os2.setup:45473

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                comp.os.os2.comm unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.mail-news unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.marketplace unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.networking.www unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.setup.misc unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.setup.video unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.setup.storage unmoderated
                comp.os.os2.utilities unmoderated

Newsgroups lines:
comp.os.os2.comm	Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.mail-news	Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2
comp.os.os2.marketplace forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings
comp.os.os2.networking.www	World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.misc	Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers
comp.os.os2.setup.video Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.storage	Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.utilities	General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Mike Levis <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS

comp.os.os2.comm
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers
   (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem
   apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service"
   providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under
   OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.mail-news
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news
   apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2.  Discussion
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.marketplace
   Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services:
      - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products (e.g. OS/2 books,
        OS/2 software, OS/2 itself, OS/2-imprinted umbrellas, etc)
      - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services
      - Commercial product/service advertisements
      - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes
   Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in
   magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belongs in
   comp.os.os2.advocacy.

comp.os.os2.networking.www
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web
   (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software
   would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW
   site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta)
   because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based
   browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup.

comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup)
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as
   well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups
   (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU
   and SMP motherboards, etc).  Installation issues can include:
      - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including
        minimum system requirements.
      - Installation tips and problem solving.
      - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs.
        FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc).
      - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size,
        system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.)
   Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.setup.storage
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive,
   and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers).
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.setup.video
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers.
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs
   in comp.os.os2.multimedia.

comp.os.os2.utilities
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose
   utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus
   scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and
   specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2.  A loose definition of a
   utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run
   better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve
   computer problems.  Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g.  networking-
   specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source
   code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here.
   Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs,
   etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps.  Discussion of general-purpose utilities
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

RATIONALE

Ever since the release last year of "Red" Warp (with BonusPak containing
software such as Internet access), the traffic on the OS/2 newsgroups has
soared.  Here are the numbers for posts per month (obtained from the Usenet
Readership Report) for OS/2 newsgroups that are affected by this CFV.  The
combined number of posts per month rises from 3829 to 13183.  Numbers for
equivalent MS-Windows newsgroups are included for comparison, which rise
>from 4369 to only 6302.

      Newsgroup                           Jun 94  Jan 95
      comp.os.os2.apps                      1883  4309
      comp.os.os2.setup                     1013  5186
      comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip          933  3688
      comp.os.ms-windows.apps.*             2695  4011
      comp.os.ms-windows.setup               829  1204
      comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip   845  1087

The proposals in this CFV will allow OS/2 users (whether using "Borg" 2.11,
"Ferengi" 2.11, "Red" Warp 3, or "Blue" Warp 3) to read about a particular
subject rather than wade through 400 articles per day (this number does not
even include traffic from OS/2 newsgroups not affected by this CFV).  Those
interested in reading the entire rationale can read the "2nd RFD" portion of
the file
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.os.os2.marketplace

HOW TO VOTE

You must send MAIL to [email protected]  (Posting in a newsgroup does not
constitute a vote.)  Just replying to this article should work unless you
are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address.

Please remove text before the marker line below.  Voting mail is archived
by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space.

Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group.
If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone.
You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts.
Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X.  The votes are tabulated by a
program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same
line as the name of the group.

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.os.os2 reorg Ballot    <COS2-0002> (Don't remove this marker)

Please give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.os.os2.comm
[         ]  comp.os.os2.mail-news
[         ]  comp.os.os2.marketplace
[         ]  comp.os.os2.networking.www
[         ]  comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup)
[         ]  comp.os.os2.setup.video
[         ]  comp.os.os2.setup.storage
[         ]  comp.os.os2.utilities
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

comp.os.os2 reorg Bounce List - No need to revote
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[email protected]                                              Gary W. Tash
[email protected]                               Christopher R. Payne
[email protected]_dlm_pc.jhuapl.edu                                     David L. Marable
[email protected]                                         Hugh Craig
[email protected]                                                Richard J. Thaxter

From [email protected] Sat May 13 00:06:11 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce,comp.os.os2.setup
Subject: RESULT: comp.os.os2 reorganization passes
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 12 May 1995 16:33:07 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 943
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]><[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6826 news.groups:149105 comp.os.os2.announce:1454 comp.os.os2.setup:47688

                                RESULT
             comp.os.os2 reorg results - 773 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 724   30 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.comm
 685   55 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.mail-news
 671   60 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.marketplace
 680   58 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.networking.www
 702   48 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.setup.misc
					 (replaces comp.os.os2.setup)
 698   40 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.setup.video
 685   46 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.setup.storage
 718   32 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.os2.utilities
   7 invalid votes

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the groups shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups lines:
comp.os.os2.comm        Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.mail-news   Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2
comp.os.os2.marketplace forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings
comp.os.os2.networking.www      World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.misc  Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers
comp.os.os2.setup.video Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.setup.storage       Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2
comp.os.os2.utilities   General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc)

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Mike Levis <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS

comp.os.os2.comm
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers
   (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem
   apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service"
   providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under
   OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.mail-news
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news
   apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2.  Discussion
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.marketplace
   Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services:
      - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products (e.g. OS/2 books,
        OS/2 software, OS/2 itself, OS/2-imprinted umbrellas, etc)
      - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services
      - Commercial product/service advertisements
      - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes
   Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in
   magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belongs in
   comp.os.os2.advocacy.

comp.os.os2.networking.www
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web
   (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2.  Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software
   would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW
   site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta)
   because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based
   browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup.

comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup)
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as
   well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups
   (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU
   and SMP motherboards, etc).  Installation issues can include:
      - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including
        minimum system requirements.
      - Installation tips and problem solving.
      - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs.
        FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc).
      - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size,
        system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.)
   Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.setup.storage
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive,
   and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers).
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2.setup.video
   Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers.
   Discussion can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes
   Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs
   in comp.os.os2.multimedia.

comp.os.os2.utilities
   Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose
   utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus
   scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and
   specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2.  A loose definition of a
   utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run
   better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve
   computer problems.  Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g.  networking-
   specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source
   code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here.
   Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs,
   etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps.  Discussion of general-purpose utilities
   can include:
      - compatibility
      - configuring and using
      - new and upcoming releases
      - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes

comp.os.os2 reorg Final Vote Ack


                                             comp.os.os2.utilities ----------+
                                         comp.os.os2.setup.storage ---------+|
                                           comp.os.os2.setup.video --------+||
               comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) -------+|||
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