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Porting to OS/2 ( comp.os.os2.programmer.porting )
 
From [email protected] Mon Jun 22 14:50:57 1992
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From: "Timothy F. Sipples" <[email protected]>
Subject: RFD: comp.os.os2.programmer.porting, comp.os.os2.setup
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Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
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This is a formal Request for Discussion on the creation of two new
unmoderated newsgroups and a slight renaming of one existing newsgroup
to maintain consistency within the Usenet hierarchy.

Proposals:

(1) Create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting.  The creation of two, free,
32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.0, GNU C/C++ 2.1 and EMX/GCC (currently
version 0.8d), has spurred a continuing deluge of software ported from
Unix and Unix-like platforms, including emacs, less, awk, grep, sed,
xscheme, ispell, and much more.  This newsgroup will provide a forum
for developers of ported software so as to coordinate efforts, avoid
duplication of effort, and spur additional development.  The group
will also cover topics such as porting from DOS and Windows (including
porting tools such as Mirrors), toolkits which aid in program
portability, and so forth.  If this newsgroup is approved,
comp.os.os2.programmer will be renamed comp.os.os2.programmer.misc to
maintain hierarchical consistency.

(2)  Create comp.os.os2.setup.  This newsgroup should help reduce the
extraordinarily heavy traffic in comp.os.os2.misc.  It will be devoted
to all OS/2 system setup topics, including availability of device
drivers, compatibility information, installation procedures, system
requirements, and overall system performance optimization.  The group
comp.os.os2.apps will continue to serve as a forum for DOS, Windows,
and OS/2 application-specific setup questions.

[The formal discussion period for these two newsgroups will last until
12:01 a.m. UTC, July 22, 1992.  Specifics on the procedure for voting
will be posted just after the period for discussion has expired.]

If you have any questions or comments which you wish to convey in
private, please mail [email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Aug  4 16:11:59 1992
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From: [email protected] (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: CFV: comp.os.os2.programmer.porting and comp.os.os2.setup
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Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: University of Chicago
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This is a formal Call for Votes on the creation of two new unmoderated
newsgroups.

Summary:

YES comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:	[email protected]
NO  comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:	[email protected]
YES comp.os.os2.setup:			[email protected]
NO  comp.os.os2.setup:			[email protected]

A specific format for votes is REQUIRED to aid in tabulation.  Please
see below.

Proposals:

(1) Create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting.  The creation of two, free,
32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.0, GNU C/C++ 2.1 and EMX/GCC (currently
version 0.8d), has spurred a continuing deluge of software ported from
Unix and Unix-like platforms, including emacs, less, awk, grep, sed,
xscheme, ispell, and much more.  This newsgroup will provide a forum
for developers of ported software so as to coordinate efforts, avoid
duplication of effort, and spur additional development.  The group
will also cover topics such as porting from DOS and Windows (including
porting tools such as Mirrors), toolkits which aid in program
portability, and so forth.

(2)  Create comp.os.os2.setup.  This newsgroup should help reduce the
extraordinarily heavy traffic in comp.os.os2.misc.  It will be devoted
to all OS/2 system setup topics, including availability of device
drivers, compatibility information, installation procedures, system
requirements, and overall system performance optimization.  The group
comp.os.os2.apps will continue to serve as a forum for DOS, Windows,
and OS/2 application-specific setup questions.

Votes must be cast according to the following instructions or they
will not be counted.  Votes will be accepted until 12:01 a.m. UTC,
August 31, 1992.  Individual vote acknowledgements will not be sent,
but weekly voting summaries will be posted to all related newsgroups.
Votes will be tabulated by Robert Cain ([email protected]).

To vote YES for the creation of comp.os.os2.programmer.porting, send a
single line message with "(Your Name): YES: .porting" in the text and
the Subject line to [email protected]  To vote NO, in opposition to
this new newsgroup, use "(Your Name): NO: .porting" and send to
[email protected]

To vote YES for the creation of comp.os.os2.setup send a single line
message with "(Your Name): AYE: .setup" in the text and the Subject line
to [email protected]  To vote NO, in opposition to this new
newsgroup, use "(Your Name): NAY: .setup" and send to [email protected]

EXAMPLE: Here is a YES vote for comp.os.os2.setup cast by John Q.
Public:

----- Message Begins -----
To: [email protected]
Subject: John Q. Public: AYE: .setup

John Q. Public: AYE: .setup
----- Message Ends -----

If you have any questions or concerns which you wish to convey in
private, please mail [email protected]
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples
Center for Population Economics
University of Chicago
[email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Oct  7 13:46:28 1992
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From: [email protected] (Mike Levis)
Subject: RESULT: comp.os.os2.{setup,programmer.porting} fail {101:9, 76:12}
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This is a Preliminary Result of Votes for the creation of two new Usenet
newsgroups. Voting was closed 8/31/92.  [Sorry this is late, but the
original vote-keeper was away from Usenet during the voting period;  I
received his voting tally just a few hours ago.]

The voting summary:             YES  NO
                                ---  --
comp.os.os2.setup:              101   9
comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:  76  12


[[ I currently have no policy for how old is too old for a result, but
   if this had been submitted as a passing vote nearly a month after
   the polls closed I would have been hard pressed to accept it.  Also
   note that full names _and_ addresses would have definitely been required
   for a passing result.  I only post this now as information for those
   who have been wondering about this proposal.  -- tale ]]

Proposals:

(1) Create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting.  The creation of two, free,
32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.0, GNU C/C++ 2.1 and EMX/GCC (currently
version 0.8d), has spurred a continuing deluge of software ported from
Unix and Unix-like platforms, including emacs, less, awk, grep, sed,
xscheme, ispell, and much more.  This newsgroup will provide a forum
for developers of ported software so as to coordinate efforts, avoid
duplication of effort, and spur additional development.  The group
will also cover topics such as porting from DOS and Windows (including
porting tools such as Mirrors), toolkits which aid in program
portability, and so forth.

(2)  Create comp.os.os2.setup.  This newsgroup should help reduce the
extraordinarily heavy traffic in comp.os.os2.misc.  It will be devoted
to all OS/2 system setup topics, including availability of device
drivers, compatibility information, installation procedures, system
requirements, and overall system performance optimization.  The group
comp.os.os2.apps will continue to serve as a forum for DOS, Windows,
and OS/2 application-specific setup questions.

The following is the list of voters and how they voted for each group.
[The original vote-keeper did not provide the e-mail addresses of the
voters, or provide a weekly summary.  I received his voting tally just
a few hours ago;  I counted the votes and formated the text.]

(a) = comp.os.os2.setup
(b) = comp.os.os2.programmer.porting

(a)  (b)  Name
==== ==== ================
AYE  YES  Andrew Bros
AYE  YES  Andrew Hilmer
AYE  YES  Arto J. Hoikkala
AYE  YES  Bill Brown
NAY  NO   Bill Owens

AYE  YES  Bob McCormick
AYE  YES  Bob Pebly
AYE  ---  Bob Raicer
NAY  NO   Bob Sloane
AYE  YES  Brian L Holland

AYE  ---  Brian Wiersema
AYE  YES  Carl Chalek
AYE  YES  Cedric Baechler
AYE  YES  Chris Jones
AYE  YES  Craig Bell

AYE  YES  D. Robert Spexet II
NAY  NO   Damon Kelly
AYE  YES  Dan Shearer
AYE  ---  Dave Sisson
AYE  YES  David A. Berson

AYE  YES  David Shepherd
AYE  YES  Deirdre McClure
AYE  YES  Denis McKeon
AYE  YES  Dennis Baba
AYE  ---  Don Smith

AYE  ---  Douglas Bell
AYE  YES  Douglas Clifton
AYE  YES  Emil J. Zeller
AYE  ---  Eric Schroedter
---  YES  Fred D. Quintana

---  YES  Fred Homan
AYE  YES  Gerald Ruderman
AYE  YES  Glen Linderman
AYE  YES  Gord Webster
AYE  YES  Gordon J. Miller

AYE  ---  Greg Wright
AYE  YES  Helge Nareid
AYE  YES  Hendrik Boom
AYE  YES  Horst Kiehl
AYE  YES  Ian T. Stirling

AYE  ---  J. Gustafson
AYE  ---  JMITCHEL
AYE  ---  James L. Weinkam
---  NO   Janne Liimatainen
AYE  YES  Jim Kunzman

AYE  YES  Jim Reisert
AYE  YES  Johann Tonsing
AYE  ---  John DeCarlo
AYE  YES  John Edge
AYE  ---  John McGing

AYE  YES  John Paul Morrison
AYE  YES  John W. Bodnar
AYE  YES  Johnnie Leung
AYE  ---  Jonathan M. Bradshaw
AYE  YES  Jonathan Sykes

AYE  YES  Kai Uwe Rommel
AYE  YES  Karsten Wemheuer
AYE  NO   Keith Dorken
AYE  YES  Ken Brucker
NAY  NO   Kim DeVaughn

AYE  ---  Kurt Olender
AYE  YES  L. Leon Campbell
AYE  ---  Larry Greenfield
AYE  YES  Leo G. Chouinard II
AYE  YES  Les Hartzman

AYE  YES  Lew Perin
AYE  YES  Lucian N. Dancanet
NAY  NO   Marc Moorcroft
AYE  YES  Mark Foltz
AYE  YES  Mark Hoy

AYE  YES  Markus Volpers
AYE  ---  Marten Feldtmann
AYE  YES  Matthew A. Manuel
AYE  YES  Meir I Green
AYE  YES  Michael K. Carmel

AYE  YES  Michael Roeder
---  YES  Mike Kretzer
AYE  YES  Mike Levis
AYE  ---  Moldovan R.
AYE  YES  Nan Zou

AYE  YES  Nathan Schimke
AYE  YES  Oliver Wagner
AYE  YES  Paul Goffin
AYE  YES  Paul King
AYE  YES  Pete Bergstrom

AYE  YES  Peter Alexiou
AYE  YES  Peter Arien
AYE  YES  Ping Huang
AYE  ---  R. James Kaminski
AYE  YES  Raja Thiagarajan

NAY  NO   Rich Kulawiec
NAY  NO   Richard Miller
AYE  NO   Rob Perkins
AYE  YES  Rob Prikanowski
AYE  ---  Robert L. Howard

AYE  ---  Robert Rosenbaum
NAY  NO   Rolan Kaltefleiter
AYE  YES  Roland Schock
AYE  ---  Samuel A. Figueroa
AYE  YES  Scott P. Reimert

AYE  YES  Scott Warner
AYE  ---  Shiran Cooray
AYE  ---  Steven Jay Breiner
AYE  ---  Ted Chen
AYE  ---  Teemu Mottonen

AYE  ---  Thomas Farmer
AYE  YES  Thomas Stets
AYE  YES  Timothy F. Sipples
AYE  YES  Tom Aurand
AYE  YES  Tom Sorensen

---  YES  Willem Jan Withagen
AYE  YES  William Lai
AYE  YES  chiaki ishikawa
AYE  ---  goldrick
NAY  NO   sven heinicke

Since the voting closed on 8/31/92, these two proposed newgroups cannot
be brought up for discussion until 3/1/93.

Mike Levis -- last-minute vote counter
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From [email protected] Wed Mar 10 20:56:01 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mike Levis)
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Subject: RFD: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,.setup,.multimedia,.bugs}
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Introduction:

	This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of four OS/2
	newsgroups and the renaming of one:
	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated)
	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to
	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated)
	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated)
	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated)
	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)


	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer
	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules
	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started
	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993).
	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and
	comp.os.os2.bugs.

	All discussion will be directed to news.groups.  This is only a
	Request for Discussion (RFD).  This is not a Call For Votes (CFV)
	-- do not attempt to vote yet.


Background:

	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2
	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred
	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such
	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and
	much more.  Borland is expected to release its C/C++ compiler for
	OS/2 2.x soon, allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows
	software.

	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and
	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the
	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility
	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the
	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation
	procedures, etc.

	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows
	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is
	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version
	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).

	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt,
	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2.
	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks
	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or
	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read
	comp.os.os2.misc for details).


Proposed Charters:

	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so
		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and
		spur additional development.  The group will also cover
		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS,
		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program
		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and
		so forth.

	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)

		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy
		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to
		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.

		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup
		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and
		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.

	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)

		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the
		availability of device drivers, compatibility information,
		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall
		performance optimization.

	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.

	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug
		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system
		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.

		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other
		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in
		comp.os.os2.beta if it passes a separate CFV]


Schedule:

	This RFD will be in effect for the next 30 days.  If there are
	no unresolvable objections posted to news.groups, then a CFV will
	be issued shortly after the 30 days.


OS/2 Hierarchy:

	Here is a brief summary of current and proposed OS/2 newsgroups,
	starting with the current ones...

	*  comp.os.os2.networking
		Networking issues/apps/drivers.

	*  comp.os.os2.programmer
		Programming issues/apps/tools.

	*  comp.os.os2.apps
		Discussion of other apps.

	*  comp.os.os2.advocacy
		Debates, flames, bashing.

	*  comp.os.os2.misc
		Supposed to be for OS/2 users to talk, but currently used
		for bug, beta, and setup discussion.

	*  comp.binaries.os2 (moderated)
		OS/2 freeware and shareware binaries.


	These groups are currently being voted on in another RFD/CFV...

	*  comp.os.os2.ver1x
		OS/2 1.x discussion.

	*  comp.os.os2.beta
		Discussion of OS/2 betas, feature suggestions for future
		OS/2 betas.

	*  comp.os.os2.announce (moderated)
		OS/2 information.


	These groups are proposed in this RFD...

	*  comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
		Porting programs to OS/2.

	*  comp.os.os2.programmer.misc
		(rename of comp.os.os2.programmer)

	*  comp.os.os2.setup
		OS/2 Hardware, driver, and installation discussion.

	*  comp.os.os2.multimedia
		Discussion of multimedia on OS/2.

	*  comp.os.os2.bugs
		Discussion on OS/2 system bugs (including OS/2 beta
		versions if comp.os.os2.beta fails to be created;
		excluding betas if it passes).
-- 
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S/2)  .--:-|  email ---------> [email protected]
--:--(OS/2)|  This RFD has been brought to  you  by  the
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From [email protected] Mon Mar 29 20:42:50 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mike Levis)
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Subject: CFV: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs}
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Introduction:

	This is a Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of four OS/2
	newsgroups and the renaming of one:
	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated)
	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to
	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated)
	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated)
	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated)
	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)


	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer
	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules
	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started
	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993).
	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and
	comp.os.os2.bugs.

	This document contains:
	*  the background showing the need for these proposals
	*  the proposed charters for these proposals
	*  voting instructions
	*  a voting ballot
	*  some example ballots
	*  the voting rules
	*  the voting schedule


Background:

	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2
	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred
	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such
	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and
	much more.  Borland has released its C/C++ compiler for OS/2 2.x,
	allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows software.

	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and
	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the
	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility
	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the
	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation
	procedures, etc.

	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows
	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is
	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version
	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).

	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt,
	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2.
	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks
	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or
	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read
	comp.os.os2.misc for details).


Proposed Charters:

	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so
		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and
		spur additional development.  The group will also cover
		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS,
		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program
		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and
		so forth.

	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)

		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy
		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to
		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.

		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup
		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and
		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.

	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)

		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the
		availability of device drivers, compatibility information,
		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall
		performance optimization.

	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.

	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug
		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system
		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.

		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other
		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in
		comp.os.os2.beta]


How to Vote:

	To cast your vote, fill out the ballot below and e-mail it to me.
	Many newsreaders will allow e-mail to be sent by replying to this
	post.  Be sure to send only the ballot, and edit out the rest of
	this post.

	1)  Type in your vote for each proposal:

	    If you favor the charter as proposed, put a "yes" after its name.
	    If you oppose the charter as proposed, put a "no" after its name.
	    To abstain, leave a blank after its name.

	2)  Type in your last name (i.e. your family name), a comma, and
	    your first name (i.e. your personal name).

	3)  Cut out the ballot,

	4)  E-mail your ballot to [email protected] before 11:59:59 pm
	    (Central Time), April 24, 1993.


Ballot:

----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----

        (a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:
        (b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:
        (c)              comp.os.os2.setup:
        (d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:
        (e)               comp.os.os2.bugs:

        (f)       voter's last, first name:

        e-mail ballot to [email protected] by April 24

----cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------


Example Ballot #1:

	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes
	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes
	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: no
	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:
	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: no

	(f)       voter's last, first name: Smith, John

	In this example, John Smith favors comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	to be created, and comp.os.os2.programmer to be renamed to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  He also opposes the creation of
	comp.os.os2.setup and comp.os.os2.bugs.  He does not have a view
	on the creation of comp.os.os2.multimedia. 


Example Ballot #2:

	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes
	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes
	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: yes
	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: yes
	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: yes

	(f)       voter's last, first name: Doe, Jane

	In this example, Jane Doe favors the creation or rename of all
	the proposals.


Voting Rules:

	* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the most
	  recent vote will be counted.

	* Votes must be mailed to me by the person voting.  Proxy voting,
	  forwarding, posting votes to a newsgroup, etc. will not be counted.

	* Do not ask how the votes are going.  The status of the votings
	  will be revealed only after the poll closes.

	* I will acknowledge votes by Mass Acknowledgement (ACK).  I will
	  post the ACK twice (see Schedule below).

	* If you need help for using your editor, using e-mail, how
	  voting works in general, etc. then ask an expert at your site.
	  Also see the ``How To Create a New Newsgroup'' article which is
	  posted to news.answers on a regular basis.

	* If you need any clarifications on voting procedures for this
	  CFV, send me e-mail at [email protected]

	* When the voting period is over (see Schedule below), a proposal
	  passes if both of the following formulas are true:
	  1)  the number of YES votes exceeds the number of NO votes
	      by at least 100 (i.e. YES >= NO + 100, or YES - NO >= 100).
	  2)  the number of YES votes exceeds at least twice the
	      number of NO votes (i.e. YES >= 2 * NO, or YES - NO >= NO).
	  In other words, a proposal passes if:
	      YES - NO >= max (100, NO)
	  where max() returns the highest number given to it.


Schedule:

	The voting period will start as soon as this CFV is posted by David
	Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).  Since you are
	reading this, vote now!

	During the voting period I plan to issue subsequent CFVs, each
	with a Mass Acknowledgement of voter's names and e-mail addresses.

	The voting period will end at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on
	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count.
	The voting results and tally will be posted shortly after that
	date.
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 (OS/2)--~ |  [email protected]  -> clarifications

From [email protected] Wed Apr  7 11:44:56 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs}
Followup-To: poster
Date: 6 Apr 1993 12:32:06 -0400
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Lines: 386
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3433 news.groups:69263 comp.os.os2.programmer:12120 comp.os.os2.misc:57155 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:8339 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:4160 comp.os.msdos.programmer:24036 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:59901 comp.multimedia:6348

* Attention voters:
*
* I had a problem with my mailbox on the first day of voting.
* Please check the Vote Acknowlegement (ACK) at the end of this CFV.
* If your name/address is not there, please send your vote again.
* (Actually, check even if you voted after the first day)

Introduction:

	This is the second Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of four OS/2
	newsgroups and the renaming of one:
	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated)
	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to
	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated)
	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated)
	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated)
	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)

	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer
	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules
	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started
	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993).
	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and
	comp.os.os2.bugs.

	This document contains:
	*  the background showing the need for these proposals
	*  the proposed charters for these proposals
	*  voting instructions
	*  a voting ballot
	*  some example ballots
	*  the voting rules
	*  the voting schedule
	*  the Mass Acknowledgement


Background:

	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2
	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred
	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such
	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and
	much more.  Borland has released its C/C++ compiler for OS/2 2.x,
	allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows software.

	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and
	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the
	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility
	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the
	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation
	procedures, etc.

	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows
	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is
	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version
	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).

	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt,
	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2.
	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks
	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or
	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read
	comp.os.os2.misc for details).


Proposed Charters:

	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so
		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and
		spur additional development.  The group will also cover
		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS,
		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program
		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and
		so forth.

	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)

		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy
		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to
		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.

		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup
		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and
		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.

	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)

		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the
		availability of device drivers, compatibility information,
		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall
		performance optimization.

	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.

	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug
		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system
		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.

		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other
		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in
		comp.os.os2.beta]


How to Vote:

	To cast your vote, fill out the ballot below and e-mail it to me.
	Many newsreaders will allow e-mail to be sent by replying to this
	post.  Be sure to send only the ballot, and edit out the rest of
	this post.

	1)  Type in your vote for each proposal:

	    If you favor the charter as proposed, put a "yes" after its name.
	    If you oppose the charter as proposed, put a "no" after its name.
	    To abstain, leave a blank after its name.

	2)  Type in your last name (i.e. your family name), a comma, and
	    your first name (i.e. your personal name).

	3)  Cut out the ballot,  Please do not delete any lines of the
	    ballot.

	4)  E-mail your ballot to [email protected] before 11:59:59 pm
	    (Central Time), April 24, 1993.


Ballot:

----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----

        (a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:
        (b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:
        (c)              comp.os.os2.setup:
        (d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:
        (e)               comp.os.os2.bugs:

        (f)       voter's last, first name:

        e-mail ballot to [email protected] by April 24

----cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------


Example Ballot #1:

	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes
	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes
	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: no
	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:
	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: no

	(f)       voter's last, first name: Smith, John

	In this example, John Smith favors comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	to be created, and comp.os.os2.programmer to be renamed to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  He also opposes the creation of
	comp.os.os2.setup and comp.os.os2.bugs.  He does not have a view
	on the creation of comp.os.os2.multimedia. 


Example Ballot #2:

	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes
	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes
	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: yes
	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: yes
	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: yes

	(f)       voter's last, first name: Doe, Jane

	In this example, Jane Doe favors the creation or rename of all
	the proposals.


Voting Rules:

	* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the most
	  recent vote will be counted.

	* Votes must be mailed to me by the person voting.  Proxy voting,
	  forwarding, posting votes to a newsgroup, etc. will not be counted.

	* Do not ask how the votes are going.  The status of the votings
	  will be revealed only after the poll closes.

	* I will acknowledge votes by Mass Acknowledgement (ACK).  I will
	  post the ACK twice (see Schedule below).

	* If you need help for using your editor, using e-mail, how
	  voting works in general, etc. then ask an expert at your site.
	  Also see the ``How To Create a New Newsgroup'' article which is
	  posted to news.answers on a regular basis.

	* If you need any clarifications on voting procedures for this
	  CFV, send me e-mail at [email protected]

	* When the voting period is over (see Schedule below), a proposal
	  passes if both of the following formulas are true:
	  1)  the number of YES votes exceeds the number of NO votes
	      by at least 100 (i.e. YES >= NO + 100, or YES - NO >= 100).
	  2)  the number of YES votes exceeds at least twice the
	      number of NO votes (i.e. YES >= 2 * NO, or YES - NO >= NO).
	  In other words, a proposal passes if:
	      YES - NO >= max (100, NO)
	  where max() returns the highest number given to it.


Schedule:

	The voting period started on March 29 when the first CFV was posted
	by David Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).

	This second CFV is a repeat of the first CFV, but it also has the
	Mass Acknowledgement (ACK) of names and e-mail addresses of those who
	have already voted -- re-send your vote if it is not there.  If you
	have not voted yet, vote now!

	Later in the voting period I plan to issue a third CFV, also
	with a Mass Acknowledgement of voter's names and e-mail addresses.

	The voting period will end at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on
	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count.
	The voting results and tally will be posted shortly after that
	date.


Mass Acknowledgement:

	Here is the list of people who have already sent in their ballots
	as of 12:45 am (Central Time) on April 4, 1993:


                          [email protected]
Aiyagari, Sanjay          [email protected]
Arien, Peter              [email protected]
Aurand, Tom               [email protected]
Bartlett, Warren          [email protected]
Beal, Kenneth             [email protected]
Bedersdorfer, Jochen      [email protected]
Benningfield, Robert      concert.net!aurs01!aurw7a!benningf
Blackman, Ed              [email protected]
Bodnar, John              [email protected]
Botha, David              [email protected]
Bowers, Neil              [email protected]
Bronner, Geoffrey         [email protected]
Carlson, Bill             [email protected]
Ciesielski, Boleslaw      [email protected]
Clement, Bruce            [email protected]
Clemente, Marc F.         [email protected]
Cline, Ernest             [email protected]
Cocking , Simon           [email protected]
Costello, Robert          [email protected]
Coulman, Randy            [email protected]
Cox, Anthony              [email protected]
daigle, Joe               [email protected]
DeCarlo, John             [email protected]
Donaldson, Ian            [email protected]
Duffy, Patrick            [email protected]
Dusitsin, Krid            [email protected]
Erzberger, Martin         [email protected]
Feustel, Edward           [email protected]
filippini,luigi           [email protected]
Fleuren, Rik              [email protected]
Francis, Tim              [email protected]
Franks, Derek             [email protected]
Franzki, Wolfgang         [email protected]
Friedrich, Jochen         [email protected]
Friis, Torben             [email protected]
G"unther, Stefan          [email protected]
Gammon, Robert            [email protected]
Gartler, Hermann          [email protected]
Garzik, Jeff              [email protected]
Gnassi, John              [email protected]
Goyal, Mohit              [email protected]
Green, Anthony            [email protected]
Grupenhoff, Mike          [email protected]
Haggerty, Michael         [email protected]
Hartman, Shane            [email protected]
Hartzman, Les             [email protected]
Hassa, George             [email protected]
Heederik, Robbert         heederik@fwi.uva.nl
Hellerhoff, Torsten       Torsten_Hellerhoff@ac2.maus.de
Henriksen, Gerald         rn.1035@rose.com
Henry, Andrew             A.H.Henry@gdr.bath.ac.uk
Herbison, B.J.            herbison@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com
Herron, Kenneth           kherron@ms.uky.edu
Hilmer, Andrew            hilmera@mist.CS.ORST.EDU
Hodges, Matthew           modester@iastate.edu
Hollebone, Bruce          lermer@theory.chem.ubc.ca
holsman, Ian              IHolsman@cmutual.com.au
Hoppenbrouwers, Jeroen    hoppie@kub.nl
Howard, Robert            robert.howard@matd.gatech.edu
Jackson, Dave             D.Jackson@axion.bt.co.uk
Jensen, Colin             ljensen@netcom.com
Kassarjian, Steven        kassarji@spot.Colorado.EDU
Kiehl, Horst              kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de
Kitchin, Bruce            kitchin@lf.hp.com
Kone, Bob                 bkone@rflab.ee.ubc.ca
Kovarski, Mark            kovarski@zooid.guild.org
Lacy, Stephen             sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu
lai, william              lai@seas.gwu.edu
Lawton, Gef               glawton@cs.uah.edu
Le Glasse, Franck         Franck.Leglasse@irisa.fr
Lehtonen, Jari            jarlehto@utu.fi
Leitner, Thomas           tom@finwds01.tu-graz.ac.at
Lentin, Kevin             kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au
Lin, Steven               slin@cisco.com
Logan, Stan               logan@lexmark.com
Lu, Kevin                 kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Martin, Johannes          jmartin@mogli.zdv.uni-mainz.de
Maturo, Larry             larry@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
Mayer, Gunther H.         gmayer@physik.uni-kl.de
Mcgehrin, Matthew         matthew@dabeef@des.edu
McGuire, Ed               emcguire@intellection.com
McMillan, Andrew          Andrew.McMillan@folly.welly.gen.nz
meyer, jeff               moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Miller, Richard           rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu
Mittelstaedt, Olaf H.-P.  mittelst@felix.rz.fh-ulm.de
moorcroft, marc           smarry@zooid.guild.org
Morrison, John Paul       jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca
Mosher, David             dmosher@nyx.cs.du.edu
Mouawad, Naji.            nmouawad@math.uwaterloo.ca
Mullins, Don              mullins@magnum.convex.com
Nareid, Helge             Helge.Nareid@due.unit.no
Narinian, Vartan          v.narinian@ic.ac.uk
Norton, Charles M.        cmn@ftp.com
o'neel, bruce             oneel@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu
Oldham, C. R.             cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu
Olson, Eric               ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu
Oussoren, Ronald          roussor@cs.vu.nl
owens, bill               owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu
Parry, Tom                parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Pebly, Bob                pebly@vnet.IBM.COM
Perdue, Alicia            arperd00@mik.uky.edu
Petro, Herbert            hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu
Powell, Stephen           stevep@kralizec.zeta.org.au
Provensal, jerome         uunet.UU.NET!iac!jerome
Quinn, Michael            quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
Rao, Venkat               rao@cactus.org
Robertson, James          ROBERTSON@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU
Rosenvold, Johan Kristian jkr@ifi.uio.no
Ruppel, Markus            m.ruppel@imperial.ac.uk
Ryan, Sean                FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu
Salomon, Larry            os2man@Panix.Com
Schipper, Haijo           haijo@cs.rug.nl
SIPPLES, TIMOTHY          sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Skogstad, Oddbjorn        odskog@siri.unit.no
Smith, Donald             djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Sneath, Tim               psyhtjs@mips.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
Sriram, N                 swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg
Steele, Alan              steele@nrcphy1.phy.nrc.ca
Steinkopf, Dirk           dirk@km21.zfe.siemens.de
Stirling, Ian T.          ian@vnet.IBM.COM
streeter, carl            cstreete@nyx.cs.du.edu
Sum, Eva                  eesum00@mik.uky.edu
Sum, Joey                 jpsum00@mik.uky.edu
Swallow, Doug             doug@montage.oau.org
Thomas, Stephen           swt@therson.affinity.mn.org
torremans, engelbert      etorrem%hvlpa@att.att.com
Tremain, Jim              JIM@BIOLOGY.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Tsen, Maoee               tsen0001@student.tc.umn.edu
van der Lek, Petja        P.vanderLek@research.ptt.nl
van Woerkom, Marc E.E.    Marc_Van-Woerkom@ac3.maus.de
Veeraraghavan, Venkatesh  venky@owlnet.rice.edu
Villumsen, Ole            ovillumsen@daimi.aau.dk
Wald, David               wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu
Watson, Brett             watson@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
Weeks, Larry              dev@ecn.purdue.edu
Werner, John              werner@SOE.Berkeley.Edu
West, Mike                west@esd.dl.nec.com
Wittenauer, Allen         Allen_Wittenauer@crispy.carb.il.us
Woodbury, Gregory         ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US
Wyble, Richard            transfer.stratus.com!schunix!rwyble
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 (OS/2)--~ |  mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu  -> clarifications

From mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu Fri Apr 16 10:40:34 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs}
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* Attention voters:
*
* I had a problem with my mailbox on the first day of voting.
* Please check the Vote Acknowlegement (ACK) at the end of this CFV.
* If your name/address is not there, please send your vote again.
* (Actually, check even if you voted after the first day)


Introduction:

	This is the third (and final) Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation
	of four OS/2 newsgroups and the renaming of one:
	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated)
	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to
	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated)
	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated)
	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated)
	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)

	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer
	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules
	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started
	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993).
	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and
	comp.os.os2.bugs.

	This document contains:
	*  the background showing the need for these proposals
	*  the proposed charters for these proposals
	*  voting instructions
	*  a voting ballot
	*  some example ballots
	*  the voting rules
	*  the voting schedule
	*  the Mass Acknowledgement


Background:

	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2
	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred
	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such
	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and
	much more.  Borland has released its C/C++ compiler for OS/2 2.x,
	allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows software.

	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and
	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the
	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility
	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the
	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation
	procedures, etc.

	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows
	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is
	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version
	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).

	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt,
	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2.
	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks
	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or
	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read
	comp.os.os2.misc for details).


Proposed Charters:

	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so
		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and
		spur additional development.  The group will also cover
		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS,
		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program
		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and
		so forth.

	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)

		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy
		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to
		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.

		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup
		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and
		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.

	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)

		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the
		availability of device drivers, compatibility information,
		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall
		performance optimization.

	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.

	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug
		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system
		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.

		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other
		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in
		comp.os.os2.beta]


How to Vote:

	To cast your vote, fill out the ballot below and e-mail it to me.
	Many newsreaders will allow e-mail to be sent by replying to this
	post.  Be sure to send only the ballot, and edit out the rest of
	this post.

	1)  Type in your vote for each proposal:

	    If you favor the charter as proposed, put a "yes" after its name.
	    If you oppose the charter as proposed, put a "no" after its name.
	    To abstain, leave a blank after its name.

	2)  Type in your last name (i.e. your family name), a comma, and
	    your first name (i.e. your personal name).

	3)  Cut out the ballot,  Please do not delete any lines of the
	    ballot.

	4)  E-mail your ballot to mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu before 11:59:59 pm
	    (Central Time), April 24, 1993.


Ballot:

----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----

        (a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:
        (b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:
        (c)              comp.os.os2.setup:
        (d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:
        (e)               comp.os.os2.bugs:

        (f)       voter's last, first name:

        e-mail ballot to mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu by April 24

----cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------


Example Ballot #1:

	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes
	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes
	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: no
	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:
	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: no

	(f)       voter's last, first name: Smith, John

	In this example, John Smith favors comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
	to be created, and comp.os.os2.programmer to be renamed to
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  He also opposes the creation of
	comp.os.os2.setup and comp.os.os2.bugs.  He does not have a view
	on the creation of comp.os.os2.multimedia. 


Example Ballot #2:

	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes
	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes
	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: yes
	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: yes
	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: yes

	(f)       voter's last, first name: Doe, Jane

	In this example, Jane Doe favors the creation or rename of all
	the proposals.


Voting Rules:

	* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the most
	  recent vote will be counted.

	* Votes must be mailed to me by the person voting.  Proxy voting,
	  forwarding, posting votes to a newsgroup, etc. will not be counted.

	* Do not ask how the votes are going.  The status of the votings
	  will be revealed only after the poll closes.

	* I will acknowledge votes by Mass Acknowledgement (ACK).  I will
	  post the ACK twice (see Schedule below).

	* If you need help for using your editor, using e-mail, how
	  voting works in general, etc. then ask an expert at your site.
	  Also see the ``How To Create a New Newsgroup'' article which is
	  posted to news.answers on a regular basis.

	* If you need any clarifications on voting procedures for this
	  CFV, send me e-mail at mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu.

	* When the voting period is over (see Schedule below), a proposal
	  passes if both of the following formulas are true:
	  1)  the number of YES votes exceeds the number of NO votes
	      by at least 100 (i.e. YES >= NO + 100, or YES - NO >= 100).
	  2)  the number of YES votes exceeds at least twice the
	      number of NO votes (i.e. YES >= 2 * NO, or YES - NO >= NO).
	  In other words, a proposal passes if:
	      YES - NO >= max (100, NO)
	  where max() returns the highest number given to it.


Schedule:

	The voting period started on March 29 when the first CFV was posted
	by David Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).

	This third CFV is a repeat of the first CFV, but it also has the
	Mass Acknowledgement (ACK) of names and e-mail addresses of those who
	have already voted -- re-send your vote if it is not there.  If you
	have not voted yet, vote now!

	The voting period will end at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on
	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count.
	The voting results and tally will be posted shortly after that
	date.


Mass Acknowledgement:

	Here is the list of people who have already sent in their ballots
	as of 12:01 am (Central Time) on April 15, 1993:

                          bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu
Aiyagari, Sanjay          ska1@crux3.cit.cornell.edu
Alcorn, Justin            alcorn@alpha.ces.cwru.edu
Arien, Peter              LAAAA43%BLEKUL11.BITNET@FRMOP11.CNUSC.FR
Asselin, Andre            assela@rpi.edu
Aurand, Tom               tom@longs.lance.colostate.edu
Baechler, Cedric          cbaechle@iiic.ethz.ch
Bartlett, Warren          bart@pdn.paradyne.com
Bates, John               johnb@up.edu
Beadles, J.               jeff@neon.rain.com
Beal, Kenneth             kbeal@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com
Bedersdorfer, Jochen      beders@dfki.uni-sb.de
Bell, Douglas             dab6@SCL.CWRU.Edu
Benningfield, Robert      concert.net!aurs01!aurw7a!benningf
Biegel, Bryan             biegel@tigris.stanford.edu
Blackman, Ed              EBB7683@VENUS.TAMU.EDU
Bodnar, John              jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Boisvert, Wesley          wesb@dermit.isis.org
boneham, kevin            boneham@suntan.eng.usf.edu
Boresch, Stefan           boresch@tammy.harvard.edu
Boschma, Wilfried         v911071@si.hhs.nl
Botha, David              BOTH-DD@mella.ee.up.ac.za
Bowe, Nathaniel           woody@vnet.IBM.COM
Bowers, Neil              neilb@borris.eece.unm.edu
Braun,David               roland@roll.choate.edu
Bronner, Geoffrey         geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu
Brors, Dieter             db@ix.de
Brown, Bill               brown@chinchilla.ir.ucf.edu
Cambria, Michael          cambria@smaug.enet.dec.com
Carlson, Bill             woc8r@poplar.cs.virginia.edu
Champion, Evan            evanc@carbon.isis.org
Chandonia, John           chandoni@husc.harvard.edu
Chen, Ted                 tedc@cs.ubc.ca
Chua, Hak                 c164-ez@po.berkeley.edu
Ciesielski, Boleslaw      bolek@viewlogic.com
Clement, Bruce            frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz
Clemente, Marc F.         mfclemente@ucdavis.edu
Cline, Ernest             cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu
Cocking , Simon           simonc@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au
Compton, Curtis           compton@plains.NoDak.edu
Costello, Robert          rcc9885@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Coulman, Randy            coulman@skdad.usask.ca
Cox, Anthony              AECOX@waikato.ac.nz
Cox, Robert               rcox@qvack.EE.McGill.CA
Culliton, Tom             culliton@srg.af.mil
daigle, Joe               daigle@apollo.hp.com
DeCarlo, John             jdecarlo@mitre.org
Dippold, Ron              rdippold@qualcomm.com
Donaldson, Ian            icd@ecr.mu.oz.au
Drye, Stephen             scdrye@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
Duffy, Patrick            duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca
Dusitsin, Krid            dusitsin@ee.umr.edu
Erzberger, Martin         erzberg@ifi.unizh.ch
Feldtmann, Marten         marten@feki.toppoint.de
Feustel, Edward           efeustel@ida.org
filippini,luigi           luigi@berlioz.crs4.it
Fischer, Stefan           fischer@tammy.harvard.edu
Fleuren, Rik              rik@sci.kun.nl
Francis, Tim              francis@vnet.IBM.COM
Francois Menard           menaf00@dmi.usherb.ca
Franks, Derek             franks@hercules.cs.uregina.ca
Franzki, Wolfgang         wfranzki@hlrserv.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de
Friedrich, Jochen         jofried@fzi.de
Friis, Torben             tfriis@imada.ou.dk
G"unther, Stefan          stefan@med-informatik.uni-hildesheim.de
Galarza, Edward           LENBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Gammon, Robert            rgammon@rgam.sc.ti.com
Gartler, Hermann          herm@owlnet.rice.edu
Garzik, Jeff              gtd543a@prism.gatech.edu
Gershman, Mark            gershman@bach.udel.edu
Giller, David R.          rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu
Gnassi, John              jgnassi@hstbme.mit.edu
Goyal, Mohit              goyal@utdallas.edu
Green, Anthony            green@roboco.uucp
Grupenhoff, Mike          kashmir@wam.umd.edu
Guo, Youren               yguo@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
Hacker;Jonathan           hacker@cco.caltech.edu
Haggerty, Michael         mrhagger@Athena.MIT.EDU
Hargrave, BJ              fattire@vnet.IBM.COM
Hartman, Shane            shane@spr.com
Hartzman, Les             hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
Hassa, George             hassag@rpi.edu
Hed, Nevo                 nyh@wpi.WPI.EDU
Heederik, Robbert         heederik@fwi.uva.nl
Hellerhoff, Torsten       Torsten_Hellerhoff@ac2.maus.de
Hendel, Bernd             BHENDEL@estec.estec.esa.nl
Henriksen, Gerald         rn.1035@rose.com
Henry, Andrew             A.H.Henry@gdr.bath.ac.uk
Herbison, B.J.            herbison@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com
Herron, Kenneth           kherron@ms.uky.edu
Hilmer, Andrew            hilmera@mist.CS.ORST.EDU
Hoang, Long               lhoang@orion.oac.uci.edu
Hodge, Bob                HODGE@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com
Hodges, Matthew           modester@iastate.edu
Hollebone, Bruce          lermer@theory.chem.ubc.ca
holsman, Ian              IHolsman@cmutual.com.au
Hopkins, John             john@uhs1.uhs.uga.edu
Hoppenbrouwers, Jeroen    hoppie@kub.nl
Howard, Robert            robert.howard@matd.gatech.edu
Huang, Ping               pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
Jackson, Dave             D.Jackson@axion.bt.co.uk
Jensen, Colin             ljensen@netcom.com
Kassarjian, Steven        kassarji@spot.Colorado.EDU
Kiehl, Horst              kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de
Kitchin, Bruce            kitchin@lf.hp.com
Kone, Bob                 bkone@rflab.ee.ubc.ca
Kovarski, Mark            kovarski@zooid.guild.org
Kretzer, Myke             tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Lacy, Stephen             sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu
lai, william              lai@seas.gwu.edu
Landy, Brian              landy@cco.caltech.edu
lau, frankie              lau@tammy.harvard.edu
Lau, Stephen              lau@ai.sri.com
Lawton, Gef               glawton@cs.uah.edu
Le Glasse, Franck         Franck.Leglasse@irisa.fr
Lebius, Henning           lebius@utkux1.utk.edu
lee, james                jelee@ucdavis.edu
Lehtonen, Jari            jarlehto@utu.fi
Leitner, Thomas           tom@finwds01.tu-graz.ac.at
Lempriere, Mike           mikel@networx.com
Lentin, Kevin             kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au
Leung, Johnnie            k7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca
Lim, Pean                 plim@claircom.com
Lin, Steven               slin@cisco.com
Lindholm, George          lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca
Liukkonen, Juha           jliukkon@cc.helsinki.fi
Logan, Stan               logan@lexmark.com
Lu, Kevin                 kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Martin, Johannes          jmartin@mogli.zdv.uni-mainz.de
Mashao, Daniel            djm@lems.Brown.EDU
Maturo, Larry             larry@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
Maxwell, Scott            scott.maxwell@channel1.com
Mayer, Gunther H.         gmayer@physik.uni-kl.de
Maynard, Jay              jmaynard@nyx.cs.du.edu
McCarthy, Christopher     mccarthy@gollum.ttd.teradyne.com
Mcgehrin, Matthew         matthew@dabeef@des.edu
McGing, John              jmcging@access.digex.com
McGuire, Ed               emcguire@intellection.com
McMillan, Andrew          Andrew.McMillan@folly.welly.gen.nz
meyer, jeff               moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Miller, Richard           rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu
Mittelstaedt, Olaf H.-P.  mittelst@felix.rz.fh-ulm.de
moorcroft, marc           smarry@zooid.guild.org
Morrison, John Paul       jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca
Mosher, David             dmosher@nyx.cs.du.edu
Mouawad, Naji.            nmouawad@math.uwaterloo.ca
Mullins, Don              mullins@magnum.convex.com
Nadler, Cliff             cnadler@vnet.IBM.COM
Nareid, Helge             Helge.Nareid@due.unit.no
Narinian, Vartan          v.narinian@ic.ac.uk
Norton, Charles M.        cmn@ftp.com
o'neel, bruce             oneel@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu
O'Rourke, Sean            sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu
Oldham, C. R.             cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu
Olson, Eric               ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu
Oussoren, Ronald          roussor@cs.vu.nl
owens, bill               owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu
Parks, Dwayne             dcp@engr.uark.edu
Parry, Tom                parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Pebly, Bob                pebly@vnet.IBM.COM
Perdue, Alicia            arperd00@mik.uky.edu
Petro, Herbert            hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu
Pietilainen, Pekka        ppi@eero.oulu.fi
Poole, David              dpoole@hydrogen.oscs.montana.edu
Powell, Stephen           stevep@kralizec.zeta.org.au
Prescod, Paul             papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
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Quinn, Michael            quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
Rao, Venkat               rao@cactus.org
Reisert, Jim              reisert@mast.enet.dec.com
Reynolds, Robert          easyrob@cs.utexas.edu
Robertson, James          ROBERTSON@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU
Roelofs, Greg             roe2@midway.uchicago.edu
Rosenvold, Johan Kristian jkr@ifi.uio.no
Ruppel, Markus            m.ruppel@imperial.ac.uk
Ryan, Sean                FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu
Salomon, Larry            os2man@Panix.Com
Schimke, Nathan           schimken@cs.rpi.edu
Schipper, Haijo           haijo@cs.rug.nl
Seymour, Jim              qintar@agora.rain.com
Shankar, Gess             gess@knex.via.mind.ORG
Shaw, Jeremy              jeremy@plxsun.plx.com
Sierwald, Joern           Sierwald@tu-harburg.dbp.de
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Skogstad, Oddbjorn        odskog@siri.unit.no
Smith, Donald             djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Smith, Eliot              esmith@psych.purdue.edu
Sneath, Tim               psyhtjs@mips.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
Sorensen, Tom             gt0040a@prism.gatech.edu
Sriram, N                 swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg
Steele, Alan              steele@nrcphy1.phy.nrc.ca
Steinkopf, Dirk           dirk@km21.zfe.siemens.de
Stirling, Ian T.          ian@vnet.IBM.COM
Strazdus, Stephen         sstrazdu@sedona.intel.com
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Sum, Eva                  eesum00@mik.uky.edu
Sum, Joey                 jpsum00@mik.uky.edu
Suttor, Jeff              jsuttor@netcom.com
Swallow, Doug             doug@montage.oau.org
Sward, David              sward+@cmu.edu
Thomas, Stephen           swt@therson.affinity.mn.org
Thompson, Michael         tommy@msc.cornell.edu
Tiffany, Bernard          lbt@umich.edu
torremans, engelbert      etorrem%hvlpa@att.att.com
Tremain, Jim              JIM@BIOLOGY.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Tsen, Maoee               tsen0001@student.tc.umn.edu
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Veeraraghavan, Venkatesh  venky@owlnet.rice.edu
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Villumsen, Ole            ovillumsen@daimi.aau.dk
Wald, David               wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu
Wallace, Jack             grey@vnet.IBM.COM
Wantosch, Rainer          RAINER@sasowa.han.de
Watson, Brett             watson@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
Weber-Fahr, Christoph     weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
Weeks, Larry              dev@ecn.purdue.edu
Werner, John              werner@SOE.Berkeley.Edu
West, Mike                west@esd.dl.nec.com
weyrich, orville          uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
White, Andrew             apwhite@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
Wiersema, Brian           brianw@umd5.umd.edu
Wimmer, Carsten           Carsten_Wimmer@train.fido.de
Wittenauer, Allen         Allen_Wittenauer@crispy.carb.il.us
Woodbury, Gregory         ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US
Worthington, Stephen      stephen@actrix.gen.nz
Wright, Gregory           gregory@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
Wyble, Richard            transfer.stratus.com!schunix!rwyble
YOUNG, DAVID M.           dyoung@netcom.com
Zabbal, Christian         kris@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
zawodny, jeremy           jzawodn@andy.bgsu.edu
Zou, Nan                  nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
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 (OS/2)--~ |  mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu  -> clarifications

From mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu Wed Apr 28 18:55:17 1993
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From: mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs} pass
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Introduction:

	This is the Results document for the creation of four OS/2
	newsgroups and the renaming of one (all unmoderated):
	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     passes 227:39
	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to
	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               passes 224:44
	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup                  passes 241:31
	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia             passes 226:35
	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs                   passes 238:34


Voting Results:


	NEWSGROUP NAME                 | YES NO  ABS | TOT | Y-N Y/(Y+N) |
	------------------------------ | --- --- --- | --- | --- ------- |
	comp.os.os2.programmer.porting | 227 039 019 | 285 | 188 85.338% |
	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc    | 224 044 017 | 285 | 180 83.582% |
	comp.os.os2.setup              | 241 031 013 | 285 | 210 88.603% |
	comp.os.os2.multimedia         | 226 035 024 | 285 | 191 86.590% |
	comp.os.os2.bugs               | 238 034 013 | 285 | 204 87.500% |

	* YES shows the number of YES votes
	* NO shows the number of NO votes
	* ABS shows the number of abstains
	* TOT shows the total number of votes (YES+NO+ABS)
	* Y-N shows the margin of YES minus NO votes
	* Y/(Y+N) show the percentage of YES votes to NO votes

	All of the proposals pass because the margin of YES minus NO
	votes are at least 100, and the percentage of YES votes to NO
	votes are at least 66.667%.


Proposed Charters:

	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so
		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and
		spur additional development.  The group will also cover
		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS,
		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program
		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and
		so forth.

	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)

		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy
		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to
		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.

		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup
		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and
		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.

	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)

		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the
		availability of device drivers, compatibility information,
		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall
		performance optimization.

	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.

	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)

		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug
		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system
		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.

		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other
		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in
		comp.os.os2.beta]


Schedule:

	The voting period started on March 29 when the first CFV was posted
	by David Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).

	The voting period ended at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on
	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count.

	As soon as this Results documented is posted by David Lawrence,
	there will be a five day waiting period for the net to correct
	any errors in the voter list or the voting procedure.  When this
	waiting period is over, David Lawrence will send the newgroup
	messages.

Voter List:

	Here is the list of people who have either voted ambiguously
	or voted using the ballot from the previous comp.os.os2.*
	voting.  I attempted to contact these people about their votes
	but I received no reply.

		Lewis_Kawecki@Novell.COM (Lewis Kawecki)
		Rob Knauerhase <knauer@cs.uiuc.edu>
		rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero)


	Here is the list of people who have voted and how they voted.
	After each voter's name and e-mail address are their votes for
	comp.os.os2.programmer.porting, comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,
	comp.os.os2.setup, comp.os.os2.multimedia, and comp.os.os2.bugs,
	where 'Y' = YES, 'N' = NO, and '-' = abstain.



Aiyagari, Sanjay                       ska1@crux3.cit.cornell.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Alcorn, Justin                          alcorn@alpha.ces.cwru.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Alexiou, Peter                     edc953j@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au    Y Y Y Y Y
Allen, John                               allen@lonestar.utsa.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Arien, Peter             LAAAA43%BLEKUL11.BITNET@FRMOP11.CNUSC.FR    Y Y Y Y Y
Asselin, Andre                                     assela@rpi.edu    N N N Y N
Aurand, Tom                         tom@longs.lance.colostate.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Baechler, Cedric                            cbaechle@iiic.ethz.ch    Y Y Y Y -
Barnett, Rick                                 rbarnett@blkbox.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Bartlett, Warren                            bart@pdn.paradyne.com    Y Y Y - Y
Bates, John                                          johnb@up.edu    Y Y Y Y N
Beadles, J.                                    jeff@neon.rain.com    N N N N N
Beal, Kenneth                      kbeal@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Beal, Stuart                                     u009@csx.cciw.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Bedersdorfer, Jochen                        beders@dfki.uni-sb.de    Y Y Y N Y
Bell, Douglas                                   dab6@SCL.CWRU.Edu    Y Y Y N N
Benningfield, Robert           concert.net!aurs01!aurw7a!benningf    Y Y Y Y Y
Biegel, Bryan                          biegel@tigris.stanford.edu    Y Y N Y Y
Blackman, Ed                               EBB7683@VENUS.TAMU.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Bodnar, John                           jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Boisvert, Wesley                             wesb@dermit.isis.org    Y Y - Y Y
boneham, kevin                         boneham@suntan.eng.usf.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Boom, Hendrik                 hendrik%vedge.UUCP@IRO.UMontreal.CA    Y Y Y Y Y
Boresch, Stefan                         boresch@tammy.harvard.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Boschma, Wilfried                               v911071@si.hhs.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Botha, David                            BOTH-DD@mella.ee.up.ac.za    Y Y Y - Y
Bowe, Nathaniel                                woody@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y Y - Y
Bowers, Neil                            neilb@borris.eece.unm.edu    N N N N N
Braun,David                                roland@roll.choate.edu    Y Y Y Y N
Bronner, Geoffrey                       geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu    N N N N N
Brors, Dieter                                            db@ix.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Brown, Bill                           brown@chinchilla.ir.ucf.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Cambria, Michael                       cambria@smaug.enet.dec.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Carlson, Bill                        woc8r@poplar.cs.virginia.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Carr, Derek                              derek@dts.ine.philips.nl    - N Y Y Y
Champion, Evan                              evanc@carbon.isis.org    Y Y Y Y Y
Chandonia, John                         chandoni@husc.harvard.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Charlap, David                             dic5340@hertz.njit.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Chen, Ted                                          tedc@cs.ubc.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Chua, Hak                                 c164-ez@po.berkeley.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Ciesielski, Boleslaw                          bolek@viewlogic.com    N N Y Y N
Clement, Bruce                         frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz    Y Y Y Y Y
Clemente, Marc F.                          mfclemente@ucdavis.edu    - - Y Y Y
Cline, Ernest                      cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu    N N N N -
Cocking , Simon                     simonc@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au    Y Y - N Y
Cole, Peter                                   pcole@uk.oracle.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Compton, Curtis                          compton@plains.NoDak.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Costello, Robert                         rcc9885@ultb.isc.rit.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Coulman, Randy                             coulman@skdad.usask.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Cox, Anthony                                  AECOX@waikato.ac.nz    Y Y Y Y Y
Cox, Robert                               rcox@qvack.EE.McGill.CA    Y Y Y Y Y
Culliton, Tom                                 culliton@srg.af.mil    N N N N N
daigle, Joe                                  daigle@apollo.hp.com    Y Y Y Y Y
DeCarlo, John                                  jdecarlo@mitre.org    - - Y Y Y
Dippold, Ron                                rdippold@qualcomm.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Donaldson, Ian                                   icd@ecr.mu.oz.au    N Y Y N N
Drye, Stephen                  scdrye@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca    Y Y Y Y N
Dubbs, Bruce                                   bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Duffy, Patrick                           duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca    N N N N N
Dufour, Arnaud                          Arnaud.Dufour@hec.unil.ch    - Y Y Y Y
Dusitsin, Krid                                dusitsin@ee.umr.edu    Y Y Y - Y
Erzberger, Martin                            erzberg@ifi.unizh.ch    Y Y Y Y Y
Feldtmann, Marten                         marten@feki.toppoint.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Feustel, Edward                                  efeustel@ida.org    Y Y Y Y Y
filippini,luigi                             luigi@berlioz.crs4.it    Y Y Y Y Y
Fischer, Stefan                         fischer@tammy.harvard.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Fleuren, Rik                                       rik@sci.kun.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Francis, Tim                                 francis@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y Y - Y
Francois Menard                             menaf00@dmi.usherb.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Franks, Derek                       franks@hercules.cs.uregina.ca    Y N Y Y Y
Franzki, Wolfgang            wfranzki@hlrserv.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de    Y Y Y - Y
Friedrich, Jochen                                  jofried@fzi.de    - - N Y Y
Friis, Torben                                  tfriis@imada.ou.dk    Y Y Y Y Y
G"unther, Stefan          stefan@med-informatik.uni-hildesheim.de    Y - Y Y Y
Galarza, Edward                             LENBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Gammon, Robert                             rgammon@rgam.sc.ti.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Gartler, Hermann                             herm@owlnet.rice.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Garzik, Jeff                             gtd543a@prism.gatech.edu    Y Y Y N Y
Gershman, Mark                             gershman@bach.udel.edu    Y Y N Y Y
Giller, David R.                        rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu    N N Y Y Y
Gnassi, John                               jgnassi@hstbme.mit.edu    Y - Y Y Y
Gough, Valiant                    vgough@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Goyal, Mohit                                   goyal@utdallas.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Green, Anthony                                  green@roboco.uucp    Y Y Y Y Y
Greenberger, David                     djg2@crux4.cit.cornell.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Grupenhoff, Mike                              kashmir@wam.umd.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Gunderson, Paul                            paulg@csd4.csd.uwm.edu    - - Y Y Y
Guo, Youren                              yguo@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Hacker;Jonathan                            hacker@cco.caltech.edu    Y Y Y Y N
Haggerty, Michael                         mrhagger@Athena.MIT.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Hankerson, Darrel                         hankedr@mail.auburn.edu    N N - - -
Hargrave, BJ                                 fattire@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y Y Y Y
Hartman, Shane                                      shane@spr.com    Y N Y N Y
Hartzman, Les                        hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov    Y Y Y Y Y
Hassa, George                                      hassag@rpi.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Hatchell, Andrew                  andyhat@andyspc.rh.uchicago.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Hayman, Tim                                          tim@nmx.uucp    Y Y Y Y Y
Hed, Nevo                                         nyh@wpi.WPI.EDU    Y - - Y Y
Heederik, Robbert                             heederik@fwi.uva.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Hellerhoff, Torsten                Torsten_Hellerhoff@ac2.maus.de    N N Y Y N
Hendel, Bernd                          BHENDEL@estec.estec.esa.nl    Y Y Y - Y
Henriksen, Gerald                                rn.1035@rose.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Henry, Andrew                            A.H.Henry@gdr.bath.ac.uk    Y Y Y Y Y
Herbison, B.J.                    herbison@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com    Y Y Y - Y
Herman, Russell                                     rwh@gov.on.ca    Y Y Y - Y
Herring, Erick                                herring@iesd.auc.dk    N Y Y N Y
Herron, Kenneth                                kherron@ms.uky.edu    Y N N Y Y
Hilmer, Andrew                           hilmera@mist.CS.ORST.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Hoang, Long                              lhoang@orion.oac.uci.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Hodge, Bob                              HODGE@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com    N N N N N
Hodges, Matthew                              modester@iastate.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Hollebone, Bruce                        lermer@theory.chem.ubc.ca    Y Y Y Y N
holsman, Ian                              IHolsman@cmutual.com.au    Y Y Y Y Y
Hopkins, John                               john@uhs1.uhs.uga.edu    N Y N Y N
Hoppenbrouwers, Jeroen                              hoppie@kub.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Howard, Robert                      robert.howard@matd.gatech.edu    - - Y - -
Huang, Ping                                pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Hunter, Curtis                                       hch@oclc.org    Y Y Y Y Y
Jackson, Dave                            D.Jackson@axion.bt.co.uk    Y Y Y N Y
Jensen, Colin                                  ljensen@netcom.com    N Y Y Y Y
Jung, Kijin                                      kxj6@po.CWRU.Edu    N N N N N
Justice, James                                JAY@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Juul, Arne                                      arnej@imf.unit.no    - Y - N -
Kassarjian, Steven                     kassarji@spot.Colorado.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Katzer, Scott                            katzer@estd.nrl.navy.mil    Y Y Y Y Y
Kiehl, Horst                      kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Kim, Sangjoon                      sangjoon@phoenix.Princeton.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Kitchin, Bruce                                  kitchin@lf.hp.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Kone, Bob                                   bkone@rflab.ee.ubc.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Kovarski, Mark                           kovarski@zooid.guild.org    Y Y Y Y Y
Kretzer, Myke                             tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu    N Y N Y Y
Lacy, Stephen                                sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
lai, william                                     lai@seas.gwu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Landy, Brian                                landy@cco.caltech.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
lau, frankie                                lau@tammy.harvard.edu    Y Y - Y Y
Lau, Stephen                                       lau@ai.sri.com    N N N N N
Lawton, Gef                                    glawton@cs.uah.edu    - - - Y Y
Le Glasse, Franck                        Franck.Leglasse@irisa.fr    Y Y Y Y Y
Lebius, Henning                             lebius@utkux1.utk.edu    Y N Y Y Y
lee, james                                      jelee@ucdavis.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Lehtonen, Jari                                    jarlehto@utu.fi    Y Y - Y -
Leitner, Thomas                        tom@finwds01.tu-graz.ac.at    Y Y Y Y Y
Lempriere, Mike                                 mikel@networx.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Lentin, Kevin                       kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au    Y Y Y Y Y
Leung, Johnnie                              k7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Levine, David W.                               dwl@watson.ibm.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Lim, Pean                                       plim@claircom.com    N N Y N N
Lin, Steven                                        slin@cisco.com    N Y Y Y Y
Lindholm, George                              lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Liukkonen, Juha                           jliukkon@cc.helsinki.fi    Y Y Y - -
Logan, Stan                                     logan@lexmark.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Lu, Kevin                           kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au    Y N Y Y Y
Mahar, Derek                            DA_MAHA@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA    Y Y Y Y Y
MAKSAY, Gabor                          gmaksay@pcbf1-131a.unil.ch    Y Y Y Y Y
Manaster, Henry                               manaster@yu1.yu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Marson, Hamish                               HAMISH@waikato.ac.nz    Y Y Y Y Y
Martin, Johannes                   jmartin@mogli.zdv.uni-mainz.de    Y Y Y - Y
Masco, Todd                       uunet.UU.NET!cgi04!cgi08!cactus    N N N N N
Mashao, Daniel                                 djm@lems.Brown.EDU    Y Y Y - Y
Maturo, Larry                    larry@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Maxwell, Scott                         scott.maxwell@channel1.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Mayer, Gunther H.                         gmayer@physik.uni-kl.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Maynard, Jay                               jmaynard@nyx.cs.du.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
McCarthy, Christopher            mccarthy@gollum.ttd.teradyne.com    Y Y Y - Y
Mcgehrin, Matthew                          matthew@dabeef@des.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
McGing, John                             jmcging@access.digex.com    Y Y Y Y Y
McGuire, Ed                             emcguire@intellection.com    N N N N N
Mckernan, E.J.                             ejm@coyote.datalog.com    Y Y Y Y Y
McMillan, Andrew               Andrew.McMillan@folly.welly.gen.nz    Y N Y Y Y
meyer, jeff                                 moriarty@tc.fluke.COM    N N N N N
Miller, Richard                      rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu    N N N N N
Mittelstaedt, Olaf H.-P.              mittelst@felix.rz.fh-ulm.de    N N N N N
moorcroft, marc                            smarry@zooid.guild.org    N N N N N
Morrison, John Paul                            jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Mosher, David                               dmosher@nyx.cs.du.edu    Y N Y - Y
Mouawad, Naji.                         nmouawad@math.uwaterloo.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Moylan, Peter                       EEPJM@wombat.newcastle.edu.au    Y Y Y Y Y
Mullins, Don                            mullins@magnum.convex.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Nadler, Cliff                                cnadler@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y Y Y Y
Nareid, Helge                            Helge.Nareid@due.unit.no    Y Y Y Y Y
Narinian, Vartan                              v.narinian@ic.ac.uk    - - Y N Y
Norton, Charles M.                                    cmn@ftp.com    Y Y Y Y Y
o'neel, bruce                          oneel@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
O'Rourke, Sean                         sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Oldham, C. R.                             cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu    Y Y N Y Y
Olson, Eric                                ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu    N N N N N
Opheys, Thomas                      opheys@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de    N Y Y Y Y
Oussoren, Ronald                                 roussor@cs.vu.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
owens, bill                    owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu    N N N N N
Parks, Dwayne                                   dcp@engr.uark.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Parry, Tom                            parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au    Y Y Y Y Y
Pebly, Bob                                     pebly@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y Y Y Y
Perdue, Alicia                               arperd00@mik.uky.edu    Y Y Y N Y
Petro, Herbert                            hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu    N N N N N
Pietilainen, Pekka                               ppi@eero.oulu.fi    Y Y Y Y Y
Poole, David                     dpoole@hydrogen.oscs.montana.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Powell, Stephen                       stevep@kralizec.zeta.org.au    - - Y - Y
Prescod, Paul                papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Provensal, jerome                         uunet.UU.NET!iac!jerome    Y Y Y Y Y
Quinn, Michael                        quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
Raju, Murali                                     raju@mcs.anl.gov    Y Y Y Y Y
Rao, Venkat                                        rao@cactus.org    Y N Y Y Y
Reisert, Jim                            reisert@mast.enet.dec.com    - - Y Y Y
Reynolds, Robert                            easyrob@cs.utexas.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Robertson, James                         ROBERTSON@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU    Y N Y Y Y
Roelofs, Greg                            roe2@midway.uchicago.edu    Y Y Y - Y
Rosenvold, Johan Kristian                          jkr@ifi.uio.no    Y Y Y Y Y
Ruppel, Markus                            m.ruppel@imperial.ac.uk    Y Y Y Y Y
Ryan, Sean                                 FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu    N N N N Y
Salomon, Larry                                   os2man@Panix.Com    Y Y Y Y Y
Schanck, Christopher                    cschanck@access.digex.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Schepers, Peter                    schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Schimke, Nathan                               schimken@cs.rpi.edu    Y Y - Y -
Schipper, Haijo                                   haijo@cs.rug.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Seymour, Jim                                qintar@agora.rain.com    - - Y - Y
Shankar, Gess                              gess@knex.via.mind.ORG    Y - Y Y Y
Shaw, Jeremy                                jeremy@plxsun.plx.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Sierwald, Joern                        Sierwald@tu-harburg.dbp.de    Y Y Y N Y
SIPPLES, TIMOTHY                         sip1@midway.uchicago.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Skogstad, Oddbjorn                            odskog@siri.unit.no    Y Y Y Y Y
Smith, Donald                            djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Smith, Eliot                              esmith@psych.purdue.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
smith, steve                             SASMITH@BCSC02.GOV.BC.CA    Y Y Y Y Y
Sneath, Tim                     psyhtjs@mips.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk    Y Y Y Y Y
Sorensen, Tom                            gt0040a@prism.gatech.edu    - - Y Y -
Spiro, Phil                                      spiro@netcom.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Sriram, N                                   swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg    Y Y Y Y Y
Steele, Alan                            steele@nrcphy1.phy.nrc.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Steinkopf, Dirk                          dirk@km21.zfe.siemens.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Stephens, Alan                              stephens@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y N Y Y
Stewart, John                       jstewart@sdl.psych.wright.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Stidolph, Wayne                      stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU    Y Y Y Y N
Stirling, Ian T.                                 ian@vnet.IBM.COM    Y Y Y Y Y
Stitt, Nathaniel                                   nat@netcom.com    N N N N N
Strazdus, Stephen                       sstrazdu@sedona.intel.com    Y Y Y Y Y
streeter, carl                             cstreete@nyx.cs.du.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Sum, Eva                                      eesum00@mik.uky.edu    Y Y Y N Y
Sum, Joey                                     jpsum00@mik.uky.edu    Y Y Y N Y
Sundaram, Divya                              sundaram@egr.msu.edu    Y N N Y Y
Suttor, Jeff                                   jsuttor@netcom.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Swallow, Doug                                doug@montage.oau.org    Y Y Y Y Y
Sward, David                                       sward+@cmu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Tennis, Richard                       tennis@swrinde.nde.swri.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Thomas, Stephen                       swt@therson.affinity.mn.org    Y Y Y Y Y
Thompson, Michael                           tommy@msc.cornell.edu    N N Y Y Y
Tiffany, Bernard                                    lbt@umich.edu    Y Y Y - N
Todd, Graham                                   GTODD@VM1.YorkU.CA    Y Y Y Y Y
torremans, engelbert                    etorrem%hvlpa@att.att.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Tremain, Jim                     JIM@BIOLOGY.watstar.uwaterloo.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Tsen, Maoee                           tsen0001@student.tc.umn.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Turner, Robert               rdturner@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
Tyers, Bruce                                tyers@acs.ucalgary.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
van der Lek, Petja                    P.vanderLek@research.ptt.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
van der Wal, Kees                   J.C.vanderWal@research.ptt.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Van Iwaarden, Ronald          rvaniwaa@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU    Y Y Y Y Y
van Woerkom, Marc E.E.               Marc_Van-Woerkom@ac3.maus.de    - Y Y Y -
Veeraraghavan, Venkatesh                    venky@owlnet.rice.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Veldhuyzen, Eric                                v912182@si.hhs.nl    Y Y Y Y Y
Vigor, Kevin                                      kevin@wicat.COM    N N Y - N
Villumsen, Ole                            ovillumsen@daimi.aau.dk    - - - Y -
Volpers, Markus                      MVOLPERS@BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE    Y Y Y Y Y
Wald, David                               wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu    - Y - - -
Wallace, Jack                                   grey@vnet.IBM.COM    N N - - Y
Wantosch, Rainer                             RAINER@sasowa.han.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Watson, Brett                             watson@s1.elec.uq.oz.au    Y Y Y Y Y
Weber-Fahr, Christoph                        weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Webster, William                        websterw@bones.et.byu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Weeks, Larry                                   dev@ecn.purdue.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Werner, John                              werner@SOE.Berkeley.Edu    - N - - -
West, Mike                                    west@esd.dl.nec.com    Y Y Y Y Y
weyrich, orville                     uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville    N N Y Y Y
White, Andrew                           apwhite@csugrad.cs.vt.edu    N N Y Y Y
Wiersema, Brian                               brianw@umd5.umd.edu    - - Y Y Y
Wimmer, Carsten                      Carsten_Wimmer@train.fido.de    Y Y Y Y Y
Wittenauer, Allen              Allen_Wittenauer@crispy.carb.il.us    Y Y Y Y Y
Wojcik, Michael                      agathos@ccs.northeastern.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Wood, Stanley                               swood@tamsun.tamu.edu    Y N N Y Y
Woodbury, Gregory                         ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US    Y Y Y Y Y
Worthington, Stephen                        stephen@actrix.gen.nz    Y Y Y Y Y
Wright, Gregory                      gregory@bcstec.ca.boeing.com    N Y Y Y N
Wyble, Richard                transfer.stratus.com!schunix!rwyble    Y Y Y Y Y
YOUNG, DAVID M.                                 dyoung@netcom.com    Y Y Y Y Y
Zabbal, Christian                       kris@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca    Y Y Y Y Y
zawodny, jeremy                             jzawodn@andy.bgsu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
Zou, Nan                                     nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu    Y Y Y Y Y
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 (OS/2)--~ |  comp.os.os2.thanks_tfs ;-)

 
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