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From [email protected] Thu Jul 13 13:40:07 1995
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Subject: CFV: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
         unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware

Newsgroups line:
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware 	Novell's visual development environment.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Aug 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Eric Weidl <[email protected]>.

This CFV will be sent to mailing list [email protected]

CHARTER

The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup will serve the AppWare
developer community worldwide, and will be open for discussion to any
interested party. Discussion topics will include, but not be limited
to, capabilities and limitations of AppWare, cross-platform issues for
AppWare developers, and programming tips and techniques, especially as
they relate to AppWare as a visual programming language.

Other topics of discussion will include:

        - developing client-server systems
        - developing multimedia applications
        - developing network applications
        - designing and coding AppWare Loadable Modules (ALMs)
        - visual style guidelines
        - auditing and documenting AppWare projects
        - debugging
        - product updates and feature requests
        - and other topics

The discussions will be held in English. A FAQ is in development and
will be posted to the group on a monthly basis. Reasonable commercial
advertisements will be permitted as long as they are clearly marked as
such in the subject of the message.

RATIONALE

AppWare is a visual development environment for creating custom
applications for Macintosh and MS-Windows platforms. Applications are
built using icons which represent objects (data) and functions
(operations). The icons are connected by lines which represent
flow-of-control and thus determine the logic of an application. The icons
represent previously compiled code and thus is distinct from other
'visual' tools such as Visual Basic or Visual C++. At present there is no
dedicated newsgroup for the growing community of AppWare developers. The
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup would provide a forum for
developers that currently number over 5,000 in the United States and with
another 1,000 outside the U.S.

HOW TO VOTE

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From [email protected] Mon Jul 24 18:09:06 1995
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
         unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware

Newsgroups line:
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware       Novell's visual development environment.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Aug 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Eric Weidl <[email protected]>.

This CFV will be sent to mailing list [email protected]

CHARTER

The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup will serve the AppWare
developer community worldwide, and will be open for discussion to any
interested party. Discussion topics will include, but not be limited
to, capabilities and limitations of AppWare, cross-platform issues for
AppWare developers, and programming tips and techniques, especially as
they relate to AppWare as a visual programming language.

Other topics of discussion will include:

        - developing client-server systems
        - developing multimedia applications
        - developing network applications
        - designing and coding AppWare Loadable Modules (ALMs)
        - visual style guidelines
        - auditing and documenting AppWare projects
        - debugging
        - product updates and feature requests
        - and other topics

The discussions will be held in English. A FAQ is in development and
will be posted to the group on a monthly basis. Reasonable commercial
advertisements will be permitted as long as they are clearly marked as
such in the subject of the message.

RATIONALE

AppWare is a visual development environment for creating custom
applications for Macintosh and MS-Windows platforms. Applications are
built using icons which represent objects (data) and functions
(operations). The icons are connected by lines which represent
flow-of-control and thus determine the logic of an application. The icons
represent previously compiled code and thus is distinct from other
'visual' tools such as Visual Basic or Visual C++. At present there is no
dedicated newsgroup for the growing community of AppWare developers. The
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup would provide a forum for
developers that currently number over 5,000 in the United States and with
another 1,000 outside the U.S.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

It would be apprciated by the votetaker if you did NOT forward the entire
CFV back; this mail is archived and I really don't need several hundred
copies of the CFV on my system.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware
      I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] Fri Aug  4 17:37:59 1995
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From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware passes 129:22
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                                RESULT
  unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware passes 129:22

There were 129 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 151 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

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comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware	Novell's visual development environment.

This vote ended 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Aug 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Eric Weidl <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup will serve the AppWare
developer community worldwide, and will be open for discussion to any
interested party. Discussion topics will include, but not be limited
to, capabilities and limitations of AppWare, cross-platform issues for
AppWare developers, and programming tips and techniques, especially as
they relate to AppWare as a visual programming language.

Other topics of discussion will include:

        - developing client-server systems
        - developing multimedia applications
        - developing network applications
        - designing and coding AppWare Loadable Modules (ALMs)
        - visual style guidelines
        - auditing and documenting AppWare projects
        - debugging
        - product updates and feature requests
        - and other topics

The discussions will be held in English. A FAQ is in development and
will be posted to the group on a monthly basis. Reasonable commercial
advertisements will be permitted as long as they are clearly marked as
such in the subject of the message.

comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                      Joerg Bliesener
[email protected]                                             Alan J. Weger
[email protected]                                                   John Hastings
[email protected]                                         Andreas Amoroso
[email protected]                                              Andrew Deckowitz
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                                   Bryce W. Bate
[email protected]                                   Grzanic, Bill (CIS)
[email protected]                                             Bob Trosper
[email protected]                                          Orr, Brian (CIS)
[email protected]                                        Randy Bradley
[email protected]                                             Brian Brown
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Bryan Cardoza
[email protected]                                          Cameron Mashayekhi
[email protected]                                               Carl Palme
[email protected]                                  Chema Berian Luna
[email protected]                                                   Clarisa Diment
[email protected]                                               Matt Quagliana
[email protected]                                          Chris A Jones
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                       Carlos Rondan Gertzenstein
[email protected]
[email protected]                                          Calvin Ruben
[email protected]                                         Christopher Stetson
[email protected]                                 Cyber Surfer
[email protected]                                               Darek Iwanski
[email protected]                                              Daniel Ashby
[email protected]                                     Fuchs, Dave
[email protected]                                               Doug Davis
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                        Ed Cox
[email protected]                                             Edgar Jerez
[email protected]                                          Eric Merth
[email protected]                                                 Eddy Pulido
[email protected]                                               Eric Noble
[email protected]                                                       Frank Fay
[email protected]                                          Faustino Nebrera Garcia
[email protected]                                    Gary F. Alderson
[email protected]                                            Grant Charsley
[email protected]                                           Garrett Galten
[email protected]                                 G|ran Thyni
[email protected]                                                 Jonathan Gourd
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[email protected]                                         Greg Perugini
[email protected]                                       GreenWave MoonTribe
[email protected]                                                Haskia Hasson
[email protected]                                              Henry J. Lach
[email protected]                                           Iain Pybus
[email protected]                                                 James Monteath
[email protected]                                 Jennifer Mitchell
[email protected]                                           Anders Jenski
[email protected]                                                      Jim Bain
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[email protected]                                             John Davis
[email protected]                                   John Christensen
[email protected]                                         John Epeneter
[email protected]                                                           Jonboy
[email protected]                                              John Young
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[email protected]                                              Kevin Engel
[email protected]                               Kenley Brinkerhoff
[email protected]                                     Fleming,Kevin
[email protected]                                 Khashayar Rakhsha
[email protected]                                    John B. Kinney
[email protected]                                                 Martin Chorost
[email protected]                                           Kris L Jorgensen
[email protected]                                               John Czlonka
[email protected]                              Lal Alakkattussery
[email protected]                                                Lantz Rowland
[email protected]                                           Laurie Tifft
[email protected]                                                Lee Choquette
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de                                  Martin Schr"oder
lshkim@deltanet.com                                        Laurent Saehyun Kim
lstelie@world-net.sct.fr                                        Luc Saint-Elie
makis@enware.es                                                    Mark Pierce
Mark_Sulzen@novell.com                                             Mark Sulzen
mattm@icom.ca                                                 Matthew Mitchell
Matt_Nielson@novell.com                                  Matt Nielson (remote)
mdg@enware.es                                                      Marisa Diaz
MENDY@brm.co.il                                               Mendy Mendelsohn
michael@zoom.com                                                  Michael Hall
middione@buffnet.net                                          Gary J. Middione
Mike_Chapman@novell.com                                           Mike Chapman
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us                                             William Moxley
mpd@amaranth.com                                                   Mark Pappas
MWIKSTRO@eiknes.se                                             Mikael Wikstrom
mxe126@psu.edu                                                  mxe126@psu.edu
Neil_Harrington@novell.com                                     Neil Harrington
nysdfy01@lori.albany.net                                        Erik Ossenfort
ofp@enware.es                                         Octavio ForNext Pimentel
otto@humnet.ucla.edu                                              David Rahmel
PAM_ROBELLO@novell.com                                             Pam Robello
peerles@CAM.ORG                                         Peerless Clothing Inc.
randy_cook@novell.com                                               Randy Cook
risg@destin.gulfnet.com                                       William M. Brown
ROBERT_RODRIGUEZ@novell.com                                   Robert Rodriguez
RonKMiller@aol.com
Russ_Graves@novell.com                                             Russ Graves
SARAH_FIRMAGE@novell.com                                         Sarah Firmage
sclausen@sclausen.seanet.com                                     Scott Clausen
scnf@srv.net
shenley@sunshine.net                                              Steve Henley
Sibai_Li@novell.com                                                   Sibai Li
smart@knoware.nl                                               Jack van Klaren
srausch@ee.net                                                 Shawn N. Rausch
sriccio@cis.simplot.com                                    Riccio, Steve (CIS)
Stefan_Buchholtz@midgard.fido.de                              Stefan Buchholtz
STEPHEN_JONES@novell.com                                         Stephen Jones
Steve_Bowen@novell.com                                             Steve Bowen
tana@sofia.ksp.fujixerox.co.jp                             Yoshi "TANA" Tanaka
tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at                                         Martin Michlmayr
techsupp@traffic.is                                            Lennart Regebro
tfickes@ee.net                                                    Terry Fickes
TODD_SEAGER@novell.com                                             Todd Seager
tom@jlc.com                                                  Thomas R. Kimpton
touchi@gold.tc.umn.edu                                     James Touchi-Peters
Troy_Wright@novell.com                                             Troy Wright
ususbwr9@ibmmail.com                               Robert D. Young, US Bancorp
vba@enware.es                                            Vicente Bouza Alvarez
vpres@adeva.org                                                      Mike Lemm
wagner@main.daily.umn.edu
walter@nexchi.org                                          Walter Torres (TCG)
wayne_donaldson@novell.com                                     Wayne Donaldson
weidl@dgtl-prairie.com                       Eric Weidl, Digital Prairie, Inc.
Welby_Hansen@novell.com                                           Welby Hansen
willy@cgumath.urc.ac.ru                                   Vitaly V. Fedrushkov
young@rizer.computize.com                                           Bill Young

Voted No
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cameronk@ccinet.ab.ca                                         Cameron Knowlton
gl8f@fermi.clas.virginia.edu                                      Greg Lindahl
helge@norway.bbs.no                                             HELGE HAUGLAND
hermit@cats.ucsc.edu
hitech@primenet.com                                                     HiTech
iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk                                                Ian Jackson
jrm@globalvillag.com                                     John R. MacWilliamson
khan@JTP.CS.NYU.EDU                                               Hasnain Khan
lance@rahul.net                                                  Lance K. Chun
mb@agar.oche.de                                                 Marcus Breiing
msawczyn@sylvester.pfdpf.state.oh.us                           Michael Sawczyn
Ollivier.Robert@hsc.fr.net                                     Ollivier Robert
patl@lcs.mit.edu                                           Patrick J. LoPresti
pierre@shell.portal.com                                        Pierre Uszynski
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rle@traveller.com                                            Robert L. Edwards
smarry@turing.toronto.edu                                         Smarasderagd
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
tgm@netcom.com                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu                                        Tim Pierce
weissman@netcom.com                                               Bob Weissman
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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adair@scr.siemens.com                                           Jonathan Adair
crouchkp@flidh101.delcoelect.com                              Kenneth P Crouch
mmt@redbrick.com                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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cdl7950@tam2000.tamu.edu                                  Christopher Du. Long
   ! No vote statement in message
csaamw@urc.tue.nl                                               Michiel Wijers
   ! No vote statement in message
dreameye@intelenet.net                                           David Earnest
   ! No vote statement in message
 
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