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Powerbuilder, PowerSoft ( comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder )
 
From [email protected] Sat Jan 22 17:53:50 1994
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION - COMP.SOFT-SYS.POWERBUILDER

This is a formal request for discussion on the subject of creating an
unmoderated newsgroup comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder.  Discussion will take place
in news.groups.

PowerBuilder is an application development system for GUI environments.  It
runs in the MS-DOS/Windows environment and can be used with companion products
such as Sybase.

Justification
-------------
 
A recent search turned up discussions of PowerBuilder in the following groups:

    comp.client-server
    comp.databases
                  .ingres
                  .ms-access
                  .oracle
                  .sybase
    comp.os.ms-windows.apps
    comp.os.ms-windoes.programmer.tools
    comp.protocols.tcp-ip
    comp.sys.mac.databases
    comp.unix.questions
    comp.windows.x 
                  .motif

as well as the various job and resume groups.  The product appears to have
gained sufficient popularity to justify a group where these discussions can be
focused.

Charter
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A place to ask questions and share experiences using this suite of tools.

Steve Bonine
[email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Feb 14 19:55:08 1994
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Subject: CFV: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
              unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder

Newsgroups line: 
comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder	GUI application development tools from PowerSoft.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 5 March 1994. 

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

Currently there are discussions of PowerBuilder in several comp groups.  
comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder is intended as a single place in which
discussions of PowerBuilder can focus.  PowerBuilder is a popular
application-development system for building MSDOS/Windows-based
systems which often interface with another vendor's database product
and/or network product.  The group will include discussions of the
suite of tools from PowerSoft including PowerMaker and PowerViewer.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to: [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder
      I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder

Please include your name if your mail software does not.

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again.

It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses
and votes of all voters will be published with the final voting results.
-- 
Jan Isley, [email protected] or mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan
votes to: [email protected]

From [email protected] Thu Feb 24 17:56:07 1994
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                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
              unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder

Newsgroups line: 
comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder	GUI application development tools from PowerSoft.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 5 March 1994. 

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

Currently there are discussions of PowerBuilder in several comp groups.  
comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder is intended as a single place in which
discussions of PowerBuilder can focus.  PowerBuilder is a popular
application-development system for building MSDOS/Windows-based
systems which often interface with another vendor's database product
and/or network product.  The group will include discussions of the
suite of tools from PowerSoft including PowerMaker and PowerViewer.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to: [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder
      I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder

Please include your name if your mail software does not.

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again.

It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses
and votes of all voters will be published with the final voting results.

Vote Acks to the following have bounced:
---------------------------------------
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
-- 
Jan Isley, [email protected] or mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan
votes to: [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Mar  9 23:35:48 1994
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From: [email protected] (Jan Isley)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder passes 261:19
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RESULT: unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder passes 261:19

There were 261 YES votes and 19 NO votes, for a total of 280 valid
votes.  There were 9 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than
NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are
posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are
raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the
group shortly thereafter.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 5 March 1994. 

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.

For questions about the vote contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.
For questions about the group contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.

Newsgroups line: 
comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder	GUI application development tools from PowerSoft.

CHARTER

comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder is intended as a single place in which
discussions of PowerBuilder can focus.  PowerBuilder is a popular
application-development system for building MSDOS/Windows-based
systems which often interface with another vendor's database product
and/or network product.  The group will include discussions of the
suite of tools from PowerSoft including PowerMaker and PowerViewer.

VOTE RESULTS

unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                   Bill Krahe
[email protected]                                   Paul Horan
[email protected]                                 Kenneth Werk
[email protected]                                         Eric Margala
[email protected]                                   Agust U Sigurdsson
[email protected]                                  Howard Aikins
[email protected]                                   Alexander Ginos
[email protected]                         Ann Randall
[email protected]
[email protected]                                   Avery Smith
[email protected]                                        Axel Allen
[email protected]                                     Roland Berg
[email protected]                                      Bruce Gary
[email protected]                                Gunther Birznieks
[email protected]                                          B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                               John Heckendorn
[email protected]                               Steve Bonine
[email protected]                      Deborah C. Briggs
[email protected]                                Brock Huebner
[email protected]                                F. Bryan Cooper
[email protected]                                        Number 6
[email protected]                                          Dave Burchill
[email protected]                          William L. Burke
[email protected]                          Bernd Zwatschka
[email protected]                            Christin Marie Carey
[email protected]                                      Carl Hoang
[email protected]               Caroline Borasio
[email protected]                   Carolyn Carter
[email protected]                                Chad A Brockman
[email protected]                       Charles Worth
[email protected]                                   Choo Woon Loh
[email protected]                                 Christopher Horn
[email protected]                                 Peter Chrapchynski
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[email protected]                                             Samuel Coe
[email protected]                                Craig Olson
[email protected]                                   foo bee eng
[email protected]                                       David A. Hersemann
[email protected]                                   Dan Fox
[email protected]                                     Darron Corfield
[email protected]                               Daryl Biberdorf
[email protected]                                            Dave Lasko
[email protected]                                          Dave Pederson
[email protected]                                           David Benua
[email protected]                                 Dennis Carothers
[email protected]                                    Doug Anderson
[email protected]
[email protected]                                      Don Hjort
[email protected]                                   Dev Joneja
[email protected]                                           David Manley
[email protected]                              Didier Kieffer
[email protected]                                       Doug Fossum
[email protected]                                                 David Li
[email protected]                                         Rene' A. Vega
[email protected]                        Regina M. Drahnak
[email protected]                             Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                             Jack Carter
[email protected]                                     Drew Stephens
[email protected]                Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                           David Snider
[email protected]                                    David Woodall
[email protected]                                         Eva Blinder
[email protected]                                  Patrick Moser
[email protected]                                Eric Funkenbusch
[email protected]                               Eric Johnson
[email protected]                            Ted H. Elizondo
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[email protected]                                 Eric Stephens
[email protected]                   Evelyn G Villalon
[email protected]                   Faisal Siddiqi
[email protected]                                      Mike Faughey
[email protected]                                   David Finley
[email protected]                      Matthew J. Fleming
[email protected]                                  Carl Fogelin
[email protected]                                Todd A. Fouts
[email protected]                                   Fred Jacobowitz
[email protected]                                    David Fumento
[email protected]                                          Joel Friedman
[email protected]                           Joao Galdino M. de Souza
[email protected]                                              Gary Udstrand
[email protected]                                        Geoff Harrison
[email protected]                                       George Yu
[email protected]                                        Gerrit Brouwer
[email protected]                              Gerhard Thallinger
[email protected]                                    Gudni Gudmundsson
[email protected]                                               Gary Hall
[email protected]                            David A. Hansen
[email protected]                                 Hillel Antonov
[email protected]                                   Heidar Jon Hannesson
[email protected]                                Helmut Hohenegger
[email protected]                                   Hoong Keong Chan
[email protected]                                 Doug Howell
[email protected]                                   Hemant R. Karmarkar
[email protected]                                Helga Solveig Olafsdottir
[email protected]                                          Ian Miller
[email protected]                                     Ira H Krakow
[email protected]                                          Ido Millet
[email protected]                                 Jim Ancona
[email protected]                                     Jane Wong
[email protected]                                    Judith B. Ball
[email protected]                                          Jim Bonine
[email protected]                                            John Clare
[email protected]                                          James C Ong
[email protected]                               Jean-Pol Michel
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[email protected]                                  John H. Caldwell
[email protected]                                      Jim Fuller
[email protected]                             Jim R Ruppel
[email protected]                                           Jim Wright
[email protected]                                    Joe St Sauver
[email protected]                                     John E. Babbitt Jr
[email protected]                                           Johan Lindstedt
[email protected]                            Josue Ciaramello
[email protected]                                          Joe Landau
[email protected]                                    Jasbinder S. Sokhal
[email protected]                                    Jamie Spence
[email protected]                                     Sigurdur Reynisson
[email protected]                                      Gunnar Hilmarsson
[email protected]                                        Eggert Olafsson
[email protected]                         Kanal Patel
[email protected]                                          Kent Brye
[email protected]                       Kerry L Warmack
[email protected]                                     Kevin Lukes
[email protected]                              Kristjan Olafur Johannesson
[email protected]                                       Chris Krahe
[email protected]                                          Ken Rimple
[email protected]                                        Alan Krueger
kssib.ksc.nasa.gov!core1!rlam                               Robert Lam
[email protected]                                  Kumar Rangan
[email protected]                                Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                        Bill Lang
[email protected]                                    Larry Martell
[email protected]                                            Larry Bird
[email protected]                                         Simon Lea
[email protected]                                Claude E. Lee
[email protected]                           Larry J Lennhoff
[email protected]                                     Lonnie Barnett
[email protected]                                                  Liam Dwan
[email protected]                                     Alan Glassman
[email protected]                              Mahesh Vallampati
[email protected]                                   Dino Macris
[email protected]                           Jim Mangione
[email protected]                           Manny Powers
[email protected]                                      Mark Meissner
[email protected]                                       David Marwood
[email protected]                                             Matt Krummell
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[email protected]                                     Dave McElroy
[email protected]                                  Michael Embree
[email protected]                                  Mark A. Morrell
[email protected]                                        Mike Fowler
[email protected]                                         Maxime Taksar
[email protected]                                         Mohit Sharma
[email protected]                                     Rod Montrose
[email protected]                           Katherine A. Moore
[email protected]                                Mark A Podracky
[email protected]                                 Mahadevan Ramesh
[email protected]                            Madhusudhan M. Reddy
[email protected]                                                  Mike Rex
[email protected]                                         Michael Fox
[email protected]                                     ndesai
[email protected]                                    Neeta Prasad
[email protected]                                       Tom Nurkkala
[email protected]                                  Mark Osborn
[email protected]                                        John M. King
[email protected]                                          P}l Tingb|
[email protected]                            Paul J. Palasek
[email protected]                     Patrick Arial
[email protected]                              Pablo Bodini
[email protected]                               Pete Clare
[email protected]                                           Nandor Toth
[email protected]                                  Shiu Fun Poon
[email protected]                                      PHILIP WEBB
[email protected]                           Michael J. Quinn
[email protected]                           Radi Shourbaji
[email protected]                                Rakesh Narasimhan
[email protected]                                Ron Breen
[email protected]                                     Robert Feehan
[email protected]                                     Randy Gustavson
[email protected]                                     Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                              Steve D. Riley
[email protected]                      David Rowland
[email protected]                                     Rodney Ziebol
[email protected]                             Rob Kreamer
[email protected]                         Domenico Giuseppe Sala
[email protected]                                     Brent Sawatzky
[email protected]                         Simone Brueckner
[email protected]_roof.csci.csc.com                           Sandeep B. Chordia
[email protected]                                         Eric Schultz
[email protected]                              Scott Kiesling
[email protected]                       Scott Barron
[email protected]                                     Sandy Culver
[email protected]                 Walter Alessandro Serafini
[email protected]                                     K. Shane Hartman
[email protected]                                Penny M. Shaw
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[email protected]                       Mike Shunfenthal
[email protected]                                    STEPHEN J LECLAIR
[email protected]                                         Mack Amin
[email protected]                                 Steve Martineau
[email protected]                                     Steven Miale
[email protected]                                       Stephen Szalla
[email protected]                                 Steven P. Muench
[email protected]                          Robert F. Snyder
[email protected]                            (Softway)Benoit Charrier
[email protected]                                         C REYNOLDS
[email protected]                                           Scott TAYLOR
[email protected]                              Shawn Stringer
[email protected]                            Susan Highlander
[email protected]                     Susan Moffitt
[email protected]                              Michael Parks Swaim
[email protected]                       Swandip Dutt
[email protected]                                  Stephen Ward
[email protected]                                    Susan White
[email protected]                               Madduluri Sridhar
[email protected]                            Takeshi Kawashima
[email protected]                        Tom Gillespie
[email protected]                                        Thomas Beagle
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[email protected]                              Angel M. Tirone
[email protected]                                  Terry L. Sigle
[email protected]                                       Tom Mooney
[email protected]                                    Dave Tomlinson
[email protected]                       Tony H Hamilton
[email protected]                               Torsten Fassian
[email protected]                                    Gardner S Trask
[email protected]                                   Tim Pierce
[email protected]                                  Wayne Uejio
[email protected]                               Wong Shin Chong
[email protected]                                   Vincent Q. Yin
[email protected]                                Richard Foster
[email protected]                                    Rob Strong
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uunet.UU.NET!iac!tab                                       Terry Brown
uunet.UU.NET!support!plw                                    Paul Welch
[email protected]                               Mike Vandusen
[email protected]                                         Jan Vandromme
[email protected]                              Bruce Vincent
[email protected]                                           Mark Wallace
[email protected]                                Wayne Walker
[email protected]                                         Bill Dinner
[email protected]                              Brian Westrich
[email protected]                                Wayne Janis
[email protected]                         Whitney Roberts
wmvx.dnet.dupont.com!"wmvx::mrgate::a1::kangj"                Joe Kang
[email protected]                                                 Hao Wu
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[email protected]                              Evan Yates

Voted No
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[email protected]                                         Alan Denney
[email protected]                                            Jim Ault
[email protected]                        Christian L Claiborn
[email protected]
[email protected]                                Chris Payne
[email protected]                                Bertil Jonell
[email protected]                            Bertrand Petit
[email protected]                          Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                             Mike Cohen
[email protected]                                         Joel Furr
[email protected]                             John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                        Victor E Aldridge III
[email protected]                                       Miles Oursler
[email protected]                              Sendhil Revuluri
[email protected]                              Michael Sawczyn
[email protected]                               Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]
[email protected]                              Ulf Bahrenfuss
[email protected]                                Ward F. Bush


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                   Greg Brown
   ! No vote statement in message
bangate.compaq.com!NA%Contractors!James=Cameron
   ! No vote statement in message
bangate.compaq.com!Sys=Soft%IM=Hou!David=Hale
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                           KIRK MOUSLEY
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                          Mario Andreoli
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                         Bill Mcdonald
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                         Michael Hentges
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                             Dhebar Mukesh
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                  [email protected]
   ! No vote statement in message
-- 
Jan Isley, [email protected] or mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan
votes to: [email protected]

 
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