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From [email protected] Wed Mar 31 10:18:45 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: RFD: comp.std.wireless
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Date: 30 Mar 1993 14:12:25 -0500
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               R E Q U E S T   F O R   D I S C U S S I O N
               -------------------------------------------

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.  

NEWSGROUP NAME:

comp.std.wireless

STATUS:

Moderated.  This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive.  The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.

BACKGROUND:


There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between 
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks.  Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions.  As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.

PURPOSE:

The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings.  Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input.  The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.

A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology.  The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.

SCHEDULE:

  This RFD was issued on 31 March 1993 and will last for 30 days.  If a
  consensus is reached by the end of the RFD period, a Call for Votes (CFV)
  will be issued within 5 days.  The voting period will continue for a
  period of 4 work weeks, and end at 11:59PM (EST) on the 28th day.


Thank you for your participation in this RFD effort.

John McKown & Wesley S. Jones
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group


From [email protected] Tue May 11 08:42:05 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: CFV: comp.std.wireless moderated
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Date: 10 May 1993 11:44:45 -0400
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		       C A L L   F O R   V O T E S
		       ---------------------------


This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.

PROPOSED NEWSGROUP:

comp.std.wireless

STATUS: 

Moderated.  This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive.  The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.


BACKGROUND:

There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between 
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks.  Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions.  As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.


PURPOSE:

The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings.  Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input.  The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.

A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology.  The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.

	Acceptable Postings:
		Any questions, comments, results, or suggestions which are 
		related to any of the existing committees discussing wireless
		technologies.  This can include, but is not limited to, 
		current research, development or general applications of
		wireless networks.
		  

JUSTIFICATION OF UNIQUENESS:

	The proposed newsgroup, comp.std.wireless, would ease communication
	between people around the world who are specifying or will be affected
	by wireless network standards.  Currently, there is a not a newsgroup
	dedicated to supporting communications between wireless network 
	standards groups


VOTING PERIOD:

	Voting will conclude on Thursday, June 10, 1993 23:59 EST


HOW TO VOTE:

	All votes must be mailed to: '[email protected]'.  The votes will
	be counted as "yes" or "no" votes according to their subject line 
	and/or message body.


	Please use the following format:
	-----------
	Subject (If Applicable): [Yes/No]
	
	I  vote ["Yes"/"No"] for the creation of "comp.std.wireless"

	[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] : [Yes/No]

	-----------

VOTING RULES:

	-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the
	 same user name).
	-Any votes which are received after the voting period
	 will be discarded.
	-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting
	 again.  They must indicate that they have previously voted and are
	 changing their mind in a footnote.  A changed vote will discard your
	 previous vote.


AMBIGUOUS VOTES:

	Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or 
	do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible,  be 
	returned to their senders for clarification.  Ambiguous votes which 
	cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is 
	provided will be identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the 
	final vote tally.


Thank you for your participation in the CFV effort.
-- 
John McKown ([email protected]) & Wesley S. Jones ([email protected])
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group

From [email protected] Thu May 20 09:55:48 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.std.wireless moderated
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Date: 19 May 1993 13:44:07 -0400
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This is the final posting of the CALL FOR VOTES for the formation of a new
newsgroup 'comp.std.wireless'.  

		       C A L L   F O R   V O T E S
		       ---------------------------


This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.

PROPOSED NEWSGROUP:

comp.std.wireless

STATUS: 

Moderated.  This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive.  The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.


BACKGROUND:

There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between 
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks.  Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions.  As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.


PURPOSE:

The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings.  Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input.  The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.

A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology.  The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.

	Acceptable Postings:
		Any questions, comments, results, or suggestions which are 
		related to any of the existing committees discussing wireless
		technologies.  This can include, but is not limited to, 
		current research, development or general applications of
		wireless networks.
		  

JUSTIFICATION OF UNIQUENESS:

	The proposed newsgroup, comp.std.wireless, would ease communication
	between people around the world who are specifying or will be affected
	by wireless network standards.  Currently, there is a not a newsgroup
	dedicated to supporting communications between wireless network 
	standards groups


VOTING PERIOD:

	Voting will conclude on Thursday, June 10, 1993 23:59 EST


HOW TO VOTE:

	All votes must be mailed to: '[email protected]'.  The votes will
	be counted as "yes" or "no" votes according to their subject line 
	and/or message body.


	Please use the following format:
	-----------
	Subject (If Applicable): [Yes/No]
	
	I  vote ["Yes"/"No"] for the creation of "comp.std.wireless"

	[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] : [Yes/No]

	-----------

VOTING RULES:

	-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the
	 same user name).
	-Any votes which are received after the voting period
	 will be discarded.
	-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting
	 again.  They must indicate that they have previously voted and are
	 changing their mind in a footnote.  A changed vote will discard your
	 previous vote.


AMBIGUOUS VOTES:

	Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or 
	do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible,  be 
	returned to their senders for clarification.  Ambiguous votes which 
	cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is 
	provided will be identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the 
	final vote tally.


Thank you for your participation in the CFV effort.
-- 
John McKown & Wesley S. Jones
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group

From [email protected] Fri Jun 11 15:56:59 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.std.wireless passes 182:12
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Date: 11 Jun 1993 15:14:16 -0400
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                        V O T I N G  R E S U L T S  F O R  

                                 COMP.STD.WIRELESS

Voting for the formation of the newsgroup 'comp.std.wireless' concluded 
Thursday, June 10 @ 12:59 eastern time.  At that time there were 182 votes
posted for the creation of the group and 12 votes against.  

	Based on USENET rules this vote has been INFAVOR for the 
	creation of 'comp.std.wireless'!!!

Included with this posting is a listing of all people who voted and the way 
their vote was tallied.

If your vote was tallied incorrectly you will have five (5) business days 
>from the time this message is posted to 'news.announce.newgroups' to correct 
the vote.  Please send email to '[email protected]' stating how you 
ORIGINALLY voted (votes can not be changed now) and how I tallied your vote.
I will correct the vote and repost this message in the event that there is/was
a problem.

Thank you very much to everyone who took part in this vote.

Sincerely,

W. Stuart Jones
[email protected]

HERE ARE THE VOTES:

TOTAL YES VOTES FOR CREATION OF comp.std.wireless

Name                        E-Mail Address
----                        --------------
Aieta,Michael            [email protected]
Aksamit,Grzegorz         [email protected]
Allen,Richard            [email protected]
Bae,Hansoo               [email protected]
Balasubramanian,Naren    [email protected]
Balogh,John              [email protected]
Bastanier,Christophe     [email protected]
Beal,Stewart             [email protected]
Belanger,Phil            [[email protected]]
Bennett,John             [email protected]
Benningfield,Robert      [email protected]
BHATTI,ANWAAR            [email protected]
Bitzko,Joe               [email protected]
Boer,Jan                 [email protected]
Boop,Gregory             [email protected]
Bradley,Michael          [email protected]
Brehove,Richard          [email protected]
Buaas,Robert             [email protected] 
Buchholz,Dale            [email protected]
Budd,Richard             [email protected]
Burke,Chris              [email protected]
Burnham,Macklin          [email protected]
Busarow,Dan              [email protected] 
Butte,Manish             [email protected]
Carey,Joe                [email protected]
Cavallaro,Mark           [email protected]
Chang,Rong-Feng          [email protected]:yes
Chan,Kee                 [email protected]
Cheah,Jonathon           [email protected]
CHEN,Kwang-Cheng         [email protected]
Chen,Steve               [email protected]
Chevillat,Pierre         [email protected]
Christensen,John         [email protected]
Corbitt,Mark             [email protected]
Cox,Ben                  <[email protected]>
Crawley,Philip           [email protected]
Davies,Bill              [email protected]
Davies,Michele           [email protected]
Deane,John               [email protected]
Decker,Jack              [email protected]
Dembla,Rajiv             [email protected]
Devalla,Badarinath       [email protected]
Diepstraten,Wim          [email protected]
Djossou,Coco             [email protected]
Dormer,John              [email protected]
Doss,Kevin               [email protected]
Dupont,Pierre            [email protected]
Dutkiewicz,Marek         [email protected]
EASTMAN,Paul             [email protected]
Eldridge,Bill            [email protected]:Yes
Ellison,Dell             [email protected]
ENG,JOHN                 [email protected]
Fasbender,Andreas        [email protected]
Filbrun,Lonnie           [email protected]
Fleischer,Christian      [email protected]
Flores,Christopher       [email protected] 
Fox,John                 [email protected]
Freeburg,Thomas          [email protected]
Funk,Gregory             [email protected]
Gallager,Marian          [email protected]
Gallagher,Jon            [email protected]
Gardner,Tom              [email protected]
Gauthier,Robert          [email protected]
Gerhards,Ron             [email protected]
Gix,Brian                [email protected]
Go,Paul                  [email protected]     
Gould,Mark               [email protected]
Graham,Jim               [email protected]
Gregg,Lynne              [email protected]
Hampton,David            [email protected]
Hanson,Bruce             [email protected]
Harris,Steve             harris@kraft.apdev.cs.mci.com
Heide,Carolyn            71041.3262@compuserve.com
Helliwell,Colin          colh@lincoln.gpsemi.com
Herbison,B.J.            herbison@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com
Hermanns,Oliver          oli@informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Hiroshi,SHIGENO          shigeno@myo.inst.keio.ac.jp
Ingall,Jennifer          ingall@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Jiang,Hua                jhua@sbee.sunysb.edu
Jones,Derek              djones@prubank.com
Jones,Joel               jjones@uiuc.edu
Khan,Irfan               khan@erg.sri.com
Khayata,Ellen            ellenk@apple.com
Klemets,Anders           klemets@cs.columbia.edu
Knauerhase,Joyce         jknauerh@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Kneuper,Stephen          kneuper@chpc.utexas.edu
Koopman,Michael          <koopman@ctc.com>
Koopman,Michael          mgkst1@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu
Lach,Hong-Yon            [lach1@applelink.apple.com]
Lake,Michael             jmlake@uiuc.edu
Leclere,Mike             msl@orca.rose.hp.com
Lempkowski,Bob           Lempkowski@wes.mot.com
Levesque,Allen           [levesque@rocky.tntn.gtegsc.com]
Lidl,Kurt                lidl@uunet.uu.net
Lui,Alex                 lui@cc.bellcore.com
Lynn,Andy                <alynn@East.DELFIN.COM>
Mahany,Ronald            mahanyrl@norand.com
Malloth,Christoph        malloth@lse.epfl.ch
Marocchi,Jim             marocchi@rtsg.mot.com
Masleid,Michael          masleid@pa881a.inland.com
Mehrtens,Thomas          Mehrtens_T@msm.cdx.mot.com
Miller,Richard           rick@bcm.tmc.edu
Mitchell,Jason           mitch@virginia.edu
Mitra,FIRST_NAME_UNKNOWN mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us
Miura,Akira              miura@santa.tadw.panasonic.com
Moffatt,Hamish           <hamish@cloud.apana.org.au>
Moors,Tim                tim@atri.curtin.edu.au
Morrison,Darren          x10059@email.mot.com
Moselen,Ken.             moselenk@ccc.govt.nz
NAME_UNKNOWN,user1       user0001@hdtv.ee.ncku.edu.tw
Neugebauer,Shawn         spn@ideas.com  
Nigel,Lemur              nlemur@eecs.umich.edu
Nikolich,Paul            nikolich@interlan.interlan.com:yes
Novosel,Sinisa           sinisa@hprd26a.cern.ch
Oberlander,Lewis         lbo@mot.com    
Onodera,Keith            keitho@eecs.Berkeley.EDU
Panagopoulos,Demos       dimos@csi.forth.gr
Parghi,Amit              parghi@cs.uiuc.edu
Park,Tim                 tpark@mipos3.intel.com
Pascoe,Dave              pascoe@rocky.tntn.gtegsc.com
Patrick,Gonia            gonia@ssdc.honeywell.com
Pearce,Mike              pearce@hook.dignet.corp.mot.com
Pearson,Robert           Robert.Pearson@njackn.com
Pulkka,Aaron             pulkka@cs.washington.edu
Quirt,Alan               aquirt@bnr.ca  
Randle,Bill              billr@saab.cna.tek.com
Ransome,Peter            pdr@symbionics.co.uk
Robatino,Evan            erobatino@attmail.att.com
Robinson,Paul            TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
Robson,Andrew            uswnvg!arobson@uunet.UU.NET
Rogers,Steve             srogers@tad.eds.com
Rothenberg,Michael       mrot@lannet.com
Rune,Torben              Torben.T.R.P.Rune@BRUNE.BRUNE.dk400.dk
Ryan,Sean                fsspr@aurora.alaska.edu
Samsegger,Wolfgang       Wolfgang.Samsegger@kapsch.co.at
Samson,Dolly             DSAMSON@cc.weber.edu
Sayes,Ahmad              sayes@sun1.atitech.ca
Scaldeferri,Leon         lsscald@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Schear,Steve             schear@cylink.com
Schuessler,Jim           jim@berlioz.nsc.com
Schulz,Ed                eds@mtdcr@att.com
Sharnoff,David           muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us
Sheng,Max                maxs@tais.com  
Simmons,John             simmons@mobdig.com
Sivitz,Steven            0005251115@mcimail.com
Smith,Joe                jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM
Smits,Bram               bram@fangorn.hacktic.nl
Snyder,Joseph            jsnyder@rock.concert.net
Spear,Geoffrey           gspear+@cmu.edu
Starta,John              tosh!starta@enuucp.eas.asu.edu
Steedman,Richard         rajs@roke.co.uk
Stephenson,Dale          steph@cs.uiuc.edu
Sterkel,Terry            tsterkel@attmail.com
Subbarao,Ravi            subbarao@NMSU.Edu
Sward,David              sward+@cmu.edu 
Taksar,Maxime            mmt@RedBrick.COM
Taylor,Bruce             blt+@cmu.edu   
Taylor,Larry             larry@apple.com
tofigh,Tom               ttofigh@saturn.eng.cwc.com
Tran,Hoa-Kien            tran@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
Travis,Eric              travis@gateway.mitre.org
Tsim,T.H.                tsjoit@solist.htsa.aha.nl
Van_Beveren,David        dvb@cypress.West.Sun.COM
VanDerJagt,Lourens       kiilvdj@attmail.com:Yes
Vestrich,Mark            mark_d_vestrich@ccm.hf.intel.com
Vogel,Bob                RXV9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Walker,David             dwalker@bnr.ca 
Walvis,Dick              dickw@bodean.nsc.com
Wang,FIRST_NAME_UNKNOWN  n2680156@eeup1.eeup1
Warfel,Thomas            tew+@cs.cmu.edu
Watanapongse,Pirawat     pw@cacs.usl.edu
White,RP                 rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil
white,sarah              swhite@qualcomm.com
Wolff,Richard            rsw@thumper.bellcore.com
WOLISZ,Adam              wolisz@fokus.berlin.gmd.dbp.de
Woodbury,Gregory         ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us
Wu,Geng                  geng@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca
Yampolsky,Franck         yams@sahiela.inria.fr
Yau,Hun                  huny@cco.caltech.edu
Young,Gary               young@mdd.comm.mot.com
Zabolotzky,Scott         saz@diablo.dignet.corp.mot.com
Zurcher,Rodd             rbz@hook.dignet.corp.mot.com

TOTAL NO VOTES FOR CREATION OF comp.std.wireless

Name                        E-Mail Address
----                        --------------
Barr,Doug                barr@spot.Colorado.EDU
Bender,Craig             renfield!bender@ole.cdac.com
Cline,Ernest             cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu:
Cooper,Jonathan          <jlcooper@sacam.oren.ortn.edu>
Fortt,J.                 jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org
Hartman,Shane            shane@spr.com  
Mughal,A                 mughal@alumni.caltech.edu
Nesbitt,Murray           mjn@pseudo.uucp
Olson,Eric               <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
Petro,Herbert            hmpetro@uncc.edu
Schwarz,Georg            georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
Umbright,Guy             vagrant@vpnet.chi.il.us:no

 
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