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From [email protected] Wed Mar 31 10:18:45 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: RFD: comp.std.wireless
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Date: 30 Mar 1993 14:12:25 -0500
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               R E Q U E S T   F O R   D I S C U S S I O N
               -------------------------------------------

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.  

NEWSGROUP NAME:

comp.std.wireless

STATUS:

Moderated.  This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive.  The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.

BACKGROUND:


There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between 
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks.  Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions.  As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.

PURPOSE:

The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings.  Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input.  The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.

A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology.  The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.

SCHEDULE:

  This RFD was issued on 31 March 1993 and will last for 30 days.  If a
  consensus is reached by the end of the RFD period, a Call for Votes (CFV)
  will be issued within 5 days.  The voting period will continue for a
  period of 4 work weeks, and end at 11:59PM (EST) on the 28th day.


Thank you for your participation in this RFD effort.

John McKown & Wesley S. Jones
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group


From [email protected] Tue May 11 08:42:05 1993
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Subject: CFV: comp.std.wireless moderated
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Date: 10 May 1993 11:44:45 -0400
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		       C A L L   F O R   V O T E S
		       ---------------------------


This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.

PROPOSED NEWSGROUP:

comp.std.wireless

STATUS: 

Moderated.  This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive.  The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.


BACKGROUND:

There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between 
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks.  Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions.  As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.


PURPOSE:

The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings.  Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input.  The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.

A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology.  The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.

	Acceptable Postings:
		Any questions, comments, results, or suggestions which are 
		related to any of the existing committees discussing wireless
		technologies.  This can include, but is not limited to, 
		current research, development or general applications of
		wireless networks.
		  

JUSTIFICATION OF UNIQUENESS:

	The proposed newsgroup, comp.std.wireless, would ease communication
	between people around the world who are specifying or will be affected
	by wireless network standards.  Currently, there is a not a newsgroup
	dedicated to supporting communications between wireless network 
	standards groups


VOTING PERIOD:

	Voting will conclude on Thursday, June 10, 1993 23:59 EST


HOW TO VOTE:

	All votes must be mailed to: '[email protected]'.  The votes will
	be counted as "yes" or "no" votes according to their subject line 
	and/or message body.


	Please use the following format:
	-----------
	Subject (If Applicable): [Yes/No]
	
	I  vote ["Yes"/"No"] for the creation of "comp.std.wireless"

	[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] : [Yes/No]

	-----------

VOTING RULES:

	-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the
	 same user name).
	-Any votes which are received after the voting period
	 will be discarded.
	-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting
	 again.  They must indicate that they have previously voted and are
	 changing their mind in a footnote.  A changed vote will discard your
	 previous vote.


AMBIGUOUS VOTES:

	Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or 
	do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible,  be 
	returned to their senders for clarification.  Ambiguous votes which 
	cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is 
	provided will be identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the 
	final vote tally.


Thank you for your participation in the CFV effort.
-- 
John McKown ([email protected]) & Wesley S. Jones ([email protected])
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group

From [email protected] Thu May 20 09:55:48 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.std.wireless moderated
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Date: 19 May 1993 13:44:07 -0400
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This is the final posting of the CALL FOR VOTES for the formation of a new
newsgroup 'comp.std.wireless'.  

		       C A L L   F O R   V O T E S
		       ---------------------------


This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.

PROPOSED NEWSGROUP:

comp.std.wireless

STATUS: 

Moderated.  This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive.  The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.


BACKGROUND:

There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between 
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks.  Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions.  As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.


PURPOSE:

The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings.  Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input.  The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.

A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology.  The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.

	Acceptable Postings:
		Any questions, comments, results, or suggestions which are 
		related to any of the existing committees discussing wireless
		technologies.  This can include, but is not limited to, 
		current research, development or general applications of
		wireless networks.
		  

JUSTIFICATION OF UNIQUENESS:

	The proposed newsgroup, comp.std.wireless, would ease communication
	between people around the world who are specifying or will be affected
	by wireless network standards.  Currently, there is a not a newsgroup
	dedicated to supporting communications between wireless network 
	standards groups


VOTING PERIOD:

	Voting will conclude on Thursday, June 10, 1993 23:59 EST


HOW TO VOTE:

	All votes must be mailed to: '[email protected]'.  The votes will
	be counted as "yes" or "no" votes according to their subject line 
	and/or message body.


	Please use the following format:
	-----------
	Subject (If Applicable): [Yes/No]
	
	I  vote ["Yes"/"No"] for the creation of "comp.std.wireless"

	[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] : [Yes/No]

	-----------

VOTING RULES:

	-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the
	 same user name).
	-Any votes which are received after the voting period
	 will be discarded.
	-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting
	 again.  They must indicate that they have previously voted and are
	 changing their mind in a footnote.  A changed vote will discard your
	 previous vote.


AMBIGUOUS VOTES:

	Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or 
	do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible,  be 
	returned to their senders for clarification.  Ambiguous votes which 
	cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is 
	provided will be identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the 
	final vote tally.


Thank you for your participation in the CFV effort.
-- 
John McKown & Wesley S. Jones
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group

From [email protected] Fri Jun 11 15:56:59 1993
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From: [email protected] (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.std.wireless passes 182:12
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Date: 11 Jun 1993 15:14:16 -0400
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                        V O T I N G  R E S U L T S  F O R  

                                 COMP.STD.WIRELESS

Voting for the formation of the newsgroup 'comp.std.wireless' concluded 
Thursday, June 10 @ 12:59 eastern time.  At that time there were 182 votes
posted for the creation of the group and 12 votes against.  

	Based on USENET rules this vote has been INFAVOR for the 
	creation of 'comp.std.wireless'!!!

Included with this posting is a listing of all people who voted and the way 
their vote was tallied.

If your vote was tallied incorrectly you will have five (5) business days 
>from the time this message is posted to 'news.announce.newgroups' to correct 
the vote.  Please send email to '[email protected]' stating how you 
ORIGINALLY voted (votes can not be changed now) and how I tallied your vote.
I will correct the vote and repost this message in the event that there is/was
a problem.

Thank you very much to everyone who took part in this vote.

Sincerely,

W. Stuart Jones
[email protected]

HERE ARE THE VOTES:

TOTAL YES VOTES FOR CREATION OF comp.std.wireless

Name                        E-Mail Address
----                        --------------
Aieta,Michael            [email protected]
Aksamit,Grzegorz         [email protected]
Allen,Richard            [email protected]
Bae,Hansoo               [email protected]
Balasubramanian,Naren    [email protected]
Balogh,John              [email protected]
Bastanier,Christophe     [email protected]
Beal,Stewart             [email protected]
Belanger,Phil            [[email protected]]
Bennett,John             [email protected]
Benningfield,Robert      [email protected]
BHATTI,ANWAAR            [email protected]
Bitzko,Joe               [email protected]
Boer,Jan                 [email protected]
Boop,Gregory             boop%[email protected]
Bradley,Michael          [email protected]
Brehove,Richard          [email protected]
Buaas,Robert             [email protected] 
Buchholz,Dale            [email protected]
Budd,Richard             BUDD%[email protected]
Burke,Chris              [email protected]
Burnham,Macklin          [email protected]
Busarow,Dan              [email protected] 
Butte,Manish             [email protected]
Carey,Joe                [email protected]
Cavallaro,Mark           [email protected]
Chang,Rong-Feng          [email protected]:yes
Chan,Kee                 [email protected]
Cheah,Jonathon           [email protected]
CHEN,Kwang-Cheng         [email protected]
Chen,Steve               [email protected]
Chevillat,Pierre         [email protected]
Christensen,John         [email protected]
Corbitt,Mark             [email protected]
Cox,Ben                  <[email protected]>
Crawley,Philip           [email protected]
Davies,Bill              [email protected]
Davies,Michele           [email protected]
Deane,John               [email protected]
Decker,Jack              [email protected]
Dembla,Rajiv             [email protected]
Devalla,Badarinath       [email protected]
Diepstraten,Wim          [email protected]
Djossou,Coco             [email protected]
Dormer,John              [email protected]
Doss,Kevin               [email protected]
Dupont,Pierre            [email protected]
Dutkiewicz,Marek         [email protected]
EASTMAN,Paul             [email protected]
Eldridge,Bill            [email protected]:Yes
Ellison,Dell             [email protected]
ENG,JOHN                 [email protected]
Fasbender,Andreas        [email protected]
Filbrun,Lonnie           [email protected]
Fleischer,Christian      [email protected]
Flores,Christopher       [email protected] 
Fox,John                 [email protected]
Freeburg,Thomas          [email protected]
Funk,Gregory             [email protected]
Gallager,Marian          [email protected]
Gallagher,Jon            [email protected]
Gardner,Tom              [email protected]
Gauthier,Robert          [email protected]
Gerhards,Ron             [email protected]
Gix,Brian                [email protected]
Go,Paul                  [email protected]     
Gould,Mark               [email protected]
Graham,Jim               [email protected]
Gregg,Lynne              [email protected]
Hampton,David            [email protected]
Hanson,Bruce             [email protected]
Harris,Steve             [email protected]
Heide,Carolyn            [email protected]
Helliwell,Colin          [email protected]
Herbison,B.J.            [email protected]
Hermanns,Oliver          [email protected]
Hiroshi,SHIGENO          [email protected]
Ingall,Jennifer          [email protected]
Jiang,Hua                [email protected]
Jones,Derek              [email protected]
Jones,Joel               [email protected]
Khan,Irfan               [email protected]
Khayata,Ellen            [email protected]
Klemets,Anders           [email protected]
Knauerhase,Joyce         [email protected]
Kneuper,Stephen          [email protected]
Koopman,Michael          <[email protected]>
Koopman,Michael          [email protected]
Lach,Hong-Yon            [[email protected]]
Lake,Michael             [email protected]
Leclere,Mike             [email protected]
Lempkowski,Bob           [email protected]
Levesque,Allen           [[email protected]]
Lidl,Kurt                [email protected]
Lui,Alex                 [email protected]
Lynn,Andy                <[email protected]>
Mahany,Ronald            [email protected]
Malloth,Christoph        [email protected]
Marocchi,Jim             [email protected]
Masleid,Michael          [email protected]
Mehrtens,Thomas          [email protected]
Miller,Richard           [email protected]
Mitchell,Jason           [email protected]
Mitra,FIRST_NAME_UNKNOWN [email protected]
Miura,Akira              [email protected]
Moffatt,Hamish           <[email protected]>
Moors,Tim                [email protected]
Morrison,Darren          [email protected]
Moselen,Ken.             [email protected]
NAME_UNKNOWN,user1       [email protected]
Neugebauer,Shawn         [email protected]  
Nigel,Lemur              [email protected]
Nikolich,Paul            [email protected]:yes
Novosel,Sinisa           [email protected]
Oberlander,Lewis         [email protected]    
Onodera,Keith            [email protected]
Panagopoulos,Demos       [email protected]
Parghi,Amit              [email protected]
Park,Tim                 [email protected]
Pascoe,Dave              [email protected]
Patrick,Gonia            [email protected]
Pearce,Mike              [email protected]
Pearson,Robert           [email protected]
Pulkka,Aaron             [email protected]
Quirt,Alan               [email protected]  
Randle,Bill              [email protected]
Ransome,Peter            [email protected]
Robatino,Evan            [email protected]
Robinson,Paul            [email protected]
Robson,Andrew            [email protected]
Rogers,Steve             [email protected]
Rothenberg,Michael       [email protected]
Rune,Torben              [email protected]
Ryan,Sean                [email protected]
Samsegger,Wolfgang       [email protected]
Samson,Dolly             [email protected]
Sayes,Ahmad              [email protected]
Scaldeferri,Leon         [email protected]
Schear,Steve             [email protected]
Schuessler,Jim           [email protected]
Schulz,Ed                [email protected]@att.com
Sharnoff,David           [email protected]
Sheng,Max                [email protected]  
Simmons,John             [email protected]
Sivitz,Steven            [email protected]
Smith,Joe                [email protected]
Smits,Bram               [email protected]
Snyder,Joseph            [email protected]
Spear,Geoffrey           [email protected]
Starta,John              [email protected]
Steedman,Richard         [email protected]
Stephenson,Dale          [email protected]
Sterkel,Terry            [email protected]
Subbarao,Ravi            [email protected]
Sward,David              [email protected] 
Taksar,Maxime            [email protected]
Taylor,Bruce             [email protected]   
Taylor,Larry             [email protected]
tofigh,Tom               [email protected]
Tran,Hoa-Kien            [email protected]
Travis,Eric              [email protected]
Tsim,T.H.                [email protected]
Van_Beveren,David        [email protected]
VanDerJagt,Lourens       [email protected]:Yes
Vestrich,Mark            [email protected]
Vogel,Bob                [email protected]
Walker,David             [email protected] 
Walvis,Dick              [email protected]
Wang,FIRST_NAME_UNKNOWN  [email protected]
Warfel,Thomas            [email protected]
Watanapongse,Pirawat     [email protected]
White,RP                 [email protected]
white,sarah              [email protected]
Wolff,Richard            [email protected]
WOLISZ,Adam              [email protected]
Woodbury,Gregory         [email protected]
Wu,Geng                  [email protected]
Yampolsky,Franck         [email protected]
Yau,Hun                  [email protected]
Young,Gary               [email protected]
Zabolotzky,Scott         [email protected]
Zurcher,Rodd             [email protected]

TOTAL NO VOTES FOR CREATION OF comp.std.wireless

Name                        E-Mail Address
----                        --------------
Barr,Doug                [email protected]
Bender,Craig             [email protected]
Cline,Ernest             [email protected]:
Cooper,Jonathan          <[email protected]>
Fortt,J.                 [email protected]
Hartman,Shane            [email protected]  
Mughal,A                 [email protected]
Nesbitt,Murray           [email protected]
Olson,Eric               <[email protected]>
Petro,Herbert            [email protected]
Schwarz,Georg            [email protected]
Umbright,Guy             [email protected]:no

 
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