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Subject: RFD: comp.sys.atari.programmer
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Proposal for a new newsgroup
Request for Discussion: comp.sys.atari.programmer

by: Yat Siu ([email protected])
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Group name:	comp.sys.atari.programmer
Status:		unmoderated
Distribution:	world-wide
Summary:	a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
		TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

Justification:	

	There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

	This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.

Charter:

	The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)

NOTE

This RFD is being issued in concordance with the guidelines set in the
"How to create a new usenet newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to 
news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to this article if you have any 
questions about the newsgroup creation.

Unless the discussion indicated a need to resubmit a new RFD, the CFV will
be posted approximately three to four weeks after the posting of this RFD.

This RFD was (cross)-posted to the following groups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.sys.atari.st,
comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.announce and mailed to the gem-list
and lexicor-list

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov  7 18:17:24 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: comp.sys.atari.programmer
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group comp.sys.atari.programmer

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.programmer 	Programming on the Atari computer.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 28 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists lexicor-list, gem-list mailing list, gem-magazine.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Siu	<[email protected]>


CHARTER

Summary:	a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
		TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

	The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)


Justification:	

	There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

	This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.sys.atari.programmer
      I vote NO on comp.sys.atari.programmer

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:47:44 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.atari.programmer
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group comp.sys.atari.programmer

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.programmer       Programming on the Atari computer.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 28 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists lexicor-list, gem-list mailing list, gem-magazine.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Siu  <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Summary:        a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
                TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

        The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)


Justification:  

        There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

        This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.sys.atari.programmer
      I vote NO on comp.sys.atari.programmer

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 16:18:15 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.atari.programmer passes 193:35
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                                    RESULT
          unmoderated group comp.sys.atari.programmer passes 193:35

There were 193 YES votes and 35 NO votes, for a total of 228 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 1 invalid ballot.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.programmer       Programming on the Atari computer.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Siu  <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Summary:        a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
                TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

        The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)


Justification:  

        There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

        This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.


comp.sys.atari.programmer Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                               Jean-Philippe Guerard
[email protected]                                Keith Dennison
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[email protected]                         Andreas Schwab
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[email protected]                                    Harry Sideras
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[email protected]                        Spencer Davies
[email protected]                                       Simon Robins
[email protected]                                    Zachary Bortolot
[email protected]                                         Steven M Eker
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[email protected]                               Wolfgang Zweygart
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                                  Bill Yeakel
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                         dionisopoulos panagiotis
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
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[email protected]                                             David
[email protected]                                                Lawrence Bensinger
[email protected]                                                     Don Maple
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                      David Stevenson
[email protected]                                       Brent Sutherland
[email protected]                                    Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                                Jim Goddard
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                                      Larry Smith
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                                 Nick Waterman
[email protected]                                      John Pimentel
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                           Elmar Meyer zu Bexten
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                  Richard Hable
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
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[email protected]                                           Steve Rogers
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                                   Tony Basoglu
[email protected]                                            Todd M. Cocks
[email protected]                              Wayne A Booth +1 708 979 3304
[email protected]                                   Michael A. White
[email protected]                        Karl S Wilkinson
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[email protected]                                              Steven Woodford

Abstained
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[email protected]                                                   Scott Bigham


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                               Antony Balcerzak
   ! No vote statement in message

 
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