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From [email protected] Fri Oct 14 15:55:19 1994
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Proposal for a new newsgroup
Request for Discussion: comp.sys.atari.programmer

by: Yat Siu ([email protected])
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Group name:	comp.sys.atari.programmer
Status:		unmoderated
Distribution:	world-wide
Summary:	a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
		TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

Justification:	

	There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

	This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.

Charter:

	The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)

NOTE

This RFD is being issued in concordance with the guidelines set in the
"How to create a new usenet newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to 
news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to this article if you have any 
questions about the newsgroup creation.

Unless the discussion indicated a need to resubmit a new RFD, the CFV will
be posted approximately three to four weeks after the posting of this RFD.

This RFD was (cross)-posted to the following groups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.sys.atari.st,
comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.announce and mailed to the gem-list
and lexicor-list

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov  7 18:17:24 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: comp.sys.atari.programmer
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group comp.sys.atari.programmer

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.programmer 	Programming on the Atari computer.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 28 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists lexicor-list, gem-list mailing list, gem-magazine.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Siu	<[email protected]>


CHARTER

Summary:	a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
		TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

	The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)


Justification:	

	There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

	This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.sys.atari.programmer
      I vote NO on comp.sys.atari.programmer

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:47:44 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.atari.programmer
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group comp.sys.atari.programmer

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.programmer       Programming on the Atari computer.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 28 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists lexicor-list, gem-list mailing list, gem-magazine.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Siu  <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Summary:        a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
                TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

        The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)


Justification:  

        There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

        This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.sys.atari.programmer
      I vote NO on comp.sys.atari.programmer

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 16:18:15 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.atari.programmer passes 193:35
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                                    RESULT
          unmoderated group comp.sys.atari.programmer passes 193:35

There were 193 YES votes and 35 NO votes, for a total of 228 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 1 invalid ballot.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.programmer       Programming on the Atari computer.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Siu  <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Summary:        a newsgroup for the discussion of programming on the atari
                TOS or 8bit computer and any clones or otherwise

        The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of
programming queries, discussions of techniques or anything else that is
related to programming on the atari for any language that exist on the
atari (scheme, gcc, c, basic, pascal, assembler etc.)


Justification:  

        There are currently several comp.sys.atari.* newsgroups, however
none cover the aspect of programming questions. Atari Computer systems
(8bit, 16 or 32bit and clones) have various development tools from other
third party developers, some of which are very good. Atari Users require
a forum where they can ask questions about programming in any language. 

        This new newsgroup is also meant to encourage programming on the
atari and asking questions regarding programming. Very often programming
questions are asked in other forums, but they either don't get a reply or
ignored because it is not related to the topic. Atari Computers have got
a user base of programmers who need to support each other on the usenet on
a more global scale, and it should also help third party developers for
atari development tools read and see what programmers use/require/want.


comp.sys.atari.programmer Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                               Jean-Philippe Guerard
[email protected]                                Keith Dennison
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[email protected]                                         Mark Leair
[email protected]                                       Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                        Alexander Clauss
[email protected]                                  Anthony Green
[email protected]                                       Walter A. Cole
[email protected]                                                       Aidan Keady
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[email protected]                                                  JOHN AMSLER
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[email protected]                                          Bob McVicar
[email protected]                                  Christopher Taylor Oates
[email protected]                                         Adam Tilghman
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                           Philip Shore
[email protected]                                  Axel Kaiser
[email protected]                                                    BLAIR DEAN
[email protected]                                                    Ben Willcox
[email protected]                                           Beric Dunn
[email protected]                                     Bertil Jagard
[email protected]                                              GORDIE MEYER
[email protected]                                                Ben Bell
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[email protected]                                      Christer Gustavsson
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[email protected]                                             Jean-Etienne Doucet
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[email protected]                                             Eick Wagner
[email protected]                                             Nils Ekholm
[email protected]                                                      Eric Hall
erlingh@pvv.unit.no                                            Erling Henanger
ethami@duna.ericsson.se                                           Mezei Attila
ewl@panix.com                                                   Emery Lapinski
f92sk@efd.lth.se                                                 Sven Karlsson
fain@cyboscine.etho.caltech.edu                                       Dan Fain
frieling@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                           Nils Frielinghaus
fs@comdev.fdn.fr                                                Frederic STARK
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu                                  Sean P. Ryan
fvdakker@sterbbs.nl                                                           
g02o@zfn.uni-bremen.de                                      Mark-Oliver Wolter
gaghon@nevada.edu                                                GEORGE GAGHON
Gerrit_Meyer@ol2.maus.de                                          Gerrit Meyer
ghsst6+@pitt.edu                                              Geoffrey H Spear
gijs@mbase97.xs4all.nl                                        Maarten Landzaat
gio@wcl.bham.ac.uk                                             Giovanni Ciampa
handr@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU                                                          
haslbecs@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                            Stephan Haslbeck
hofer@iamexwi.unibe.ch                                             Sacha Hofer
HOPPER_T@msupa.pa.msu.edu                                                     
hoshi@sran265.sra.co.jp                                         Hoshi Takanori
hutch@ilmen.lanl.gov                                                     Hutch
ibs@is.dal.ca                                               Ibrahim El-Mouelhy
jabrana@powertech.no                                             Jabran Akhtar
Jean-Michel.Blin@masi.ibp.fr                                  Jean-Michel BLIN
john@albemuth.equinox.gen.nz                                                  
jonaeson@algonet.se                                             Tommy Jonaeson
jonellis@cix.compulink.co.uk                                         Jon Ellis
jonewby@uncc.edu                                                 Jeric O Newby
jpb3@ukc.ac.uk                                                    John Beranek
jwatkins@cix.compulink.co.uk                                      John Watkins
K.J.Rothwell@ukc.ac.uk                                            K.J.Rothwell
Karl.Brokstad@gades.uib.no                                    Karl A. Brokstad
kerrinp@byron.apana.org.au                                         Kerrin Pine
kevan@empyr.dircon.co.uk                                           kevan winch
kfason@csn.org                                                     Kevin Fason
king@montrouge.gm.slb.com                                         Bradley King
koehne@tripolis.informatik.uni-dortmund.de                      Patrick Koehne
kong@univ-mlv.fr                                                 Viu-Long KONG
kwalsh@unix1.rtc-waterford.ie                                   Kristian Walsh
leducq@jupiter.labri.u-bordeaux.fr                                            
leslieh@warpcon.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                           Leslie Hartmier
Lexicor@world.std.com                                         ysiu@lexicor.com
lexvan@runner.knoware.nl                                         Lex Vanderwal
lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu                             Who Has the Reality Glenn
lmuniz@is1.bfu.vub.ac.be                                            MUNIZ LUIS
Ludovic.Rousseau@cnam.fr                                      Ludovic Rousseau
LUNDQUIST@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU                                   Eric G. Lundquist
M.J.Maisey@durham.ac.uk                                                       
ma2ljg@bath.ac.uk                                               L J Greenhalgh
Matija.Grabnar@IJS.si                                                         
mdekker@fwi.uva.nl                                                    M.Dekker
mdg@ukc.ac.uk                                                 Martin Griffiths
mg@ac.duke.edu                                                   Michael Grubb
Michael.Kugelmann@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de                   Michael Kugelmann
michrm@central.sussex.ac.uk                                        Michael May
millert@babbage.csee.usf.edu                                    Timothy Miller
misar@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de                                          
mk@anuurn.do.open.de                                           Martin Koehling
mnb20@cam.ac.uk                                                     Mark Baker
moriarty@imada.ou.dk                                            Peter Mogensen
mpeter@win2.switzerland.NCR.COM                                   Markus Peter
ms@dream.hb.north.de                                          Martin Schroeder
msattler@jungle.com                             Michael Sattler, San Francisco
msbaines@cix.compulink.co.uk                                       Mark Baines
msdemlei@mathi.uni-heidelberg.DE                             Markus Demleitner
msy@lafp.oche.de                                                Manfred Ssykor
mwalker@xmission.com                                                Mel Walker
neptune@galaxy.owl.de                                           Hendrik Mylius
niklas@medialab.ericsson.se                                   Niklas Hanberger
nj1@ukc.ac.uk                                                                 
NMPUK::GREATH"@nmpost.nmp.nokia.com      PHILIP GREATHEAD, +44 (0)1276 419 522
obryan@gumby.cc.wmich.edu                                         Mark O'Bryan
odaman@rocky.unoke.pfu.fujitsu.co.jp                          OdaMan the SUPER
orres@teleport.com                                             Oregon Research
otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu                                                  M. Otto
Paul.Coene@esat.kuleuven.ac.be                                                
paul@xciv.demon.co.uk                                              Paul Civati
pbaker@tbag.tscs.com                                                Pete Baker
pedstef@ped.gu.se                                            Stefan Berndtsson
perck@colargol.edb.tih.no                             Per Christian Krabsetsve
pi92pob@krokis.pt.hk-r.se                                    PerOlof Bengtsson
pierre@WPI.EDU                                                Edwin P. Jacques
pitchfsj@helios.aston.ac.uk                                           pitchfsj
raei@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com                                       Ian M Rae
ralunsfo@uncc.edu                                           Russell A Lunsford
richara@westminster.ac.uk                                      Alan Richardson
RICHARDSON@sscl.uwo.ca                                                        
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rincewind@discworld.oche.de                                  Michael Schwingen
rover@nephilim.ON-Luebeck.DE                                         Ralf Over
rufinus@cae.wisc.edu                                                          
sabbath@cix.compulink.co.uk                                        Graeme Rutt
sanders@sci.kun.nl                                                Sander Stoks
sanson@galaxie.int-evry.fr                                      SANSON Jacques
sbrown@cee.hw.ac.uk                                               Stuart Brown
schokman@yarrow.wt.uwa.edu.au                                    Rick Schokman
schwab@issan.informatik.uni-dortmund.de                         Andreas Schwab
SHALL@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU                                    Stanley Wayne Hall
shaunc@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM                                 The Great Pumpkin
sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                   ROGER SHEPPARD
sidcelery@cix.compulink.co.uk                                    Harry Sideras
Simon.Kagedal@sdf.luth.se                                        Simon Kagedal
sjdrew@maths.ex.ac.uk                                                         
slh100@tower.york.ac.uk                                       Shawn Hargreaves
slucks@gwdg.de                                                          slucks
Spencer.Davies@boondock.mettav.exnet.com                        Spencer Davies
srobins@cix.compulink.co.uk                                       Simon Robins
ST004348@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU                                    Zachary Bortolot
Steven.Eker@brunel.ac.uk                                         Steven M Eker
supercat@mcs.com                                                   John Payson
swhatley@blkbox.COM                                             Steven Whatley
T.J.Rickard@history.hull.ac.uk                                     T.J.Rickard
t150315@proffa.cc.tut.fi                                         Tamminen Eero
t92tj@hh.se                                                Tryggve Johannesson
tacook@mndvax.seag.fingerhut.com                                      Tom Cook
TALBOTE@wl.aecl.ca                                                Emile Talbot
tegtmeie@panix.com                                           John R. Tegtmeier
thed@mtek.chalmers.se                                              Thed Lyngmo
Thomas_Much@ka2.maus.de                                            Thomas Much
Thorsten_Boehm@pb.maus.de                                       Thorsten Boehm
tj@ais-dortmund.de                                                Theo Janssen
toerring@platon.physik.fu-berlin.de                              Jens Toerring
trojan@bigbox.demon.co.uk                                       David Williams
tvoverbe@wk.estec.esa.nl                                      Ton van Overbeek
valega@qns.com                                                      Dan Valega
vdleij@phil.ruu.nl                                          Joost van der Leij
volker@iam.uni-bonn.de                                        Volker A. Brandt
walra@moacs.indiv.nl.net                                          Waldi Ravens
wilsontjb@cix.compulink.co.uk                                     BARRY WILSON
wz@echo.chem.tu-berlin.d400.de                               Wolfgang Zweygart
xopamondo@shoreline.ca                                               Xopamondo
yadallee@gallif.ERSYS.EDMONTON.AB.CA                     Dave Shariff Yadallee

Voted No
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byeakel@rahul.net                                                  Bill Yeakel
catseye@netcom.com                                              Mark Kupferman
ch90096@atlas.central.ntua.gr                         dionisopoulos panagiotis
crouchkp@flidh103.delcoelect.com                              Kenneth P Crouch
David.Stevenson@jet.uk                                                        
david@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu                                             David
dawg@crl.com                                                Lawrence Bensinger
donm@ucon.gun.de                                                     Don Maple
feminist@eskimo.com                                       William Affleck-Asch
gt5139c@prism.gatech.edu                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
hoagy@cix.compulink.co.uk                                      David Stevenson
IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU                                       Brent Sutherland
jcmurphy@cadman.cit.buffalo.edu                                    Jeff Murphy
jgoddard@rd.qms.com                                                Jim Goddard
jrm@globalvillag.com                                     John R. MacWilliamson
khan@jtp.cs.nyu.edu                                               Hasnain Khan
larrys@io.com                                                      Larry Smith
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
nick@cimio.co.uk                                                 Nick Waterman
pimentel@roots.ultranet.com                                      John Pimentel
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU                                                Pete Bastien
q09938@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de                           Elmar Meyer zu Bexten
rew@moontarz.nuance.com                                           Ryan Waldron
Richard.Hable@jk.uni-linz.ac.at                                  Richard Hable
smarry@turing.toronto.edu                                         Smarasderagd
SPICE@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU                                                  
srogers@tps.mcs.eds.com                                           Steve Rogers
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
tbas@sybase.com                                                   Tony Basoglu
tmc141@skdad.usask.ca                                            Todd M. Cocks
trek@intgp1.att.com                              Wayne A Booth +1 708 979 3304
whitema@ranger.rtsg.mot.com                                   Michael A. White
wilknsnk.teaching@physics.oxford.ac.uk                        Karl S Wilkinson
will.rogers@lightspeed.com                                                    
woodford@esca.com                                              Steven Woodford

Abstained
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dsb@cs.duke.edu                                                   Scott Bigham


Votes in error
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tekpagan@io.org                                               Antony Balcerzak
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