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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:24:43 1992
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From: [email protected] (Ron Dippold)
Subject: RFD:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
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This is a REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION concerning the creation of an UNMODERATED
newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.

NAME: 
        comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

	Group names have previously been discussed on rec.games.misc,
	and the overwhelming favorite, because of the previous precedent of
	groups such as comp.sys.mac.games, comp.sys.amiga.games, and
	comp.binaries.ibm.pc, is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.  It is recognized that
	"ibm.pc" does not cover the entire range of machines which are
	affected by this group, such as PS/2s and other software compatibles.
	However, "ibm.pc" seems to be the recognized name for this group of
	machines in the rest of the hierarchy.

STATUS:
        unmoderated

CHARTER:

	To provide a forum for the discussion of games which run on
	the IBM PC family of computers.

	For example:
	  o Discussion of upcoming games
	  o Discussion of current and past games
	  o Requests for help
	  o Hints
	  o Personal sales and trading of games (not copies!)
	  o Discussion of new demos and their locations

	These are taken directly from the current discussions taking place
	on rec.games.misc.

RATIONALE:

	This has been discussed extensively in rec.games.misc prior to
this RFD.  It has been much discussed in the past, but failed due to
the lack of anyone dumb enough to take on the resulting work.

	The primary motive is to get the huge amount traffic regarding
IBM games off of rec.games.misc, where it now dominates the group.  PC
compatible users can read only about their games, if they choose, and
those who aren't interested in them will have a much less unwieldy
rec.games.misc, where other games under its charter can be discussed
more freely.

	A quick poll was taken on rec.games.misc, which resulted in
over 50 email letters in a single day from those who were very
interested in creating the new group.  This hopefully will make it
almost a certainty that the excess of 100 yes votes will be gathered.
Both groups (the PC users and the non-PC users) have expressed support
for this move.

	Comments on the group creation and name are welcome.  Please post
all responses on 

	news.groups

which is the followup group for this message, and not on rec.games.misc.

-- 
The earth is like a tiny grain of sand, only much, much heavier.

-- 
It's like deja vu all over again.  -- Yogi Berra

From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:35:50 1992
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From: [email protected] (Ron Dippold)
Subject: CFV:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
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OFFICIAL CALL FOR VOTES FOR NEW GROUP

NAME:
	comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

STATUS:
	unmoderated

CHARTER:
	To provide a forum for the discussion of games for the IBM PC or
	compatible machines.  This is not just limited to MS-DOS, but
	extends to OS/2, Windows (Yes, it's not really an OS, but...)
	and anything else which can run on an IBM PC compatible.

For example (not to be taken as comprehensive):
	o Discussion of upcoming games
	o Discussion of software companies
	o Discussion of current and past games
	o Requests for help
	o Hints and spoilers
	o Personal sales and trading of games.  Not for commercial sales
	  or piracy.  Any risk assumed is your own.
	o Discussion of locations of new demos and ftp sites


RATIONALE:

	It has been much discussed in the past, but failed due to the
lack of anyone dumb enough to take on the resulting work.  The RFD has
received overwhelming support in rec.games.misc and other interested
groups.

	The primary motive is to get the huge amount traffic regarding
IBM games off of rec.games.misc, where it can be self-contained.
IBMers can read only about their games, if they choose, and those who
aren't interested in them will have a much more less smothering
rec.games.misc, where board games and other games under its charter
can be discussed more freely.

	We have discussed group names, and the overwhelming favorite,
because of the previous precedent of groups such as comp.sys.mac.games,
comp.sys.amiga.games, and comp.binaries.ibm.pc, is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games. 
It is recognized that "ibm.pc" does not cover the entire range of
machines, such as PS/2s and other software compatibles.  However,
"ibm.pc" seems to be a recognized name for this group of machines in
the rest of the hierarchy.  We are also aware of the comp.os.msdos
hierarchy, but while most of the posts will probably be about MS-DOS
games, the group is not limited to that.


VOTING:

	This vote will run from now till 23:59 GMT, Monday, May 4, 1992.
	The date/time on your message must be before this time, or it will
	not be counted.  Only votes recieved by email as detailed below
	will be counted.

	There will be two other CFVs and mass Acknowledgements during
	this time.  The final acknowledgement and totals postings will
	be done on Wednesday, May 6, 1992.

	Send all votes to

		[email protected]

	(You can just reply to this post...) Our mail is usually very
	reliable, but if it bounces, try again later.

	The first line of your post should be either

		I vote YES on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

	or
		I vote NO on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

	You may add comments below that, but only the first line will
	be used to determine your vote.  If you do not use YES and NO
        in that line, your vote will be discarded.

	If you vote more than once, your last vote will be the one counted.
	If you are revoting, please add a line underneath commenting on
	this, to make sure we notice.


MY ACTIONS:

	I did the RFD for comp.sys.ibm.pc.games and am doing the CFV.
	This group has not been particularly controversial.  To keep it
	that way, I will not be discussing the proposal in any way which
	involves my expressing a positive or negative opinion on it.  I
	will not be doing any public or private campaigning for or against
	it.  I will, on public groups, encourage people to vote, but will
	not take a stand for or against and will encourage both YES and NO
	voters to vote. 
-- 
Oregonians don't tan, they rust.

From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:01:38 1992
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From: [email protected] (Ron Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
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(Reminder - if you've already voted, no need to vote again.  Check for
your name in the list of received votes at the bottom, though, and
mail me if you aren't there).


2nd OFFICIAL CALL FOR VOTES FOR NEW GROUP
 
NAME:
        comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
 
STATUS:
        unmoderated
 
CHARTER:
        To provide a forum for the discussion of games for the IBM PC or
        compatible machines.  This is not just limited to MS-DOS, but
        extends to OS/2, Windows (Yes, it's not really an OS, but...)
        and anything else which can run on an IBM PC compatible.
 
For example (not to be taken as comprehensive):
        o Discussion of upcoming games
        o Discussion of software companies
        o Discussion of current and past games
        o Requests for help
        o Hints and spoilers
        o Personal sales and trading of games.  Not for commercial sales
          or piracy.  Any risk assumed is your own.
        o Discussion of locations of new demos and ftp sites
 
 
RATIONALE:
 
        It has been much discussed in the past, but failed due to the
lack of anyone dumb enough to take on the resulting work.  The RFD has
received overwhelming support in rec.games.misc and other interested
groups.
 
        The primary motive is to get the huge amount traffic regarding
IBM games off of rec.games.misc, where it can be self-contained.
IBMers can read only about their games, if they choose, and those who
aren't interested in them will have a much more less smothering
rec.games.misc, where board games and other games under its charter
can be discussed more freely.
 
        We have discussed group names, and the overwhelming favorite,
because of the previous precedent of groups such as
comp.sys.mac.games, comp.sys.amiga.games, and comp.binaries.ibm.pc, is
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.  It is recognized that "ibm.pc" does not cover
the entire range of machines, such as PS/2s and other software
compatibles.  However, "ibm.pc" seems to be a recognized name for this
group of machines in the rest of the hierarchy.  We are also aware of
the comp.os.msdos hierarchy, but while most of the posts will probably
be about MS-DOS games, the group is not limited to that.
 
 
VOTING:
 
        This vote will run from now till 23:59 GMT, Monday, May 4, 1992.
        The date/time on your message must be before this time, or it will
        not be counted.  Only votes recieved by email as detailed below
        will be counted.
 
        There will be two other CFVs and mass Acknowledgements during
        this time.  The final acknowledgement and totals postings will
        be done on Wednesday, May 6, 1992.
 
        Send all votes to
 
                [email protected]
 
        (You can just reply to this post...) Our mail is usually very
        reliable, but if it bounces, try again later.
 
        The first line of your post should be either
 
                I vote YES on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
 
        or
                I vote NO on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
 
        You may add comments below that, but only the first line will
        be used to determine your vote.  If you do not use YES and NO
        in that line, your vote will be discarded.
 
        If you vote more than once, your last vote will be the one counted.
        If you are revoting, please add a line underneath commenting on
        this, to make sure we notice.
 
 
MY ACTIONS:
 
        I did the RFD for comp.sys.ibm.pc.games and am doing the CFV.
        This group has not been particularly controversial.  To keep it
        that way, I will not be discussing the proposal in any way which
        involves my expressing a positive or negative opinion on it.  I
        will not be doing any public or private campaigning for or against
        it.  I will, on public groups, encourage people to vote, but will
        not take a stand for or against and will encourage both YES
        and NO voters to vote. 


----------------------------------------------------------------------------

THOSE WHO HAVE VOTED SO FAR

Thanks to all those who took the time to vote, for or against
(anipathy is better than apathy here).

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What if it was the Warren Commission who killed JFK?

From rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com Fri Apr 24 13:59:56 1992
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
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3rd (and last) OFFICIAL CALL FOR VOTES FOR NEW GROUP and MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

(If you've already voted, don't vote again.  If you've already voted,
your "From:" line should be in the list at the bottom.)


NAME:
	comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

STATUS:
	unmoderated

CHARTER:
	To provide a forum for the discussion of games for the IBM PC or
	compatible machines.  This is not just limited to MS-DOS, but
	extends to OS/2, Windows (Yes, it's not really an OS, but...)
	and anything else which can run on an IBM PC compatible.

For example (not to be taken as comprehensive):
	o Discussion of upcoming games
	o Discussion of software companies
	o Discussion of current and past games
	o Requests for help
	o Hints and spoilers
	o Personal sales and trading of games.  Not for commercial sales
	  or piracy.  Any risk assumed is your own.
	o Discussion of locations of new demos and ftp sites


RATIONALE:

	It has been much discussed in the past, but failed due to the
lack of anyone dumb enough to take on the resulting work.  The RFD has
received overwhelming support in rec.games.misc and other interested
groups.

	The primary motive is to get the huge amount traffic regarding
IBM games off of rec.games.misc, where it can be self-contained.
IBMers can read only about their games, if they choose, and those who
aren't interested in them will have a much more less smothering
rec.games.misc, where board games and other games under its charter
can be discussed more freely.

	We have discussed group names, and the overwhelming favorite,
because of the previous precedent of groups such as comp.sys.mac.games,
comp.sys.amiga.games, and comp.binaries.ibm.pc, is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games. 
It is recognized that "ibm.pc" does not cover the entire range of
machines, such as PS/2s and other software compatibles.  However,
"ibm.pc" seems to be a recognized name for this group of machines in
the rest of the hierarchy.  We are also aware of the comp.os.msdos
hierarchy, but while most of the posts will probably be about MS-DOS
games, the group is not limited to that.


VOTING:

        This vote will run from now till 23:59 GMT, Monday, May 4, 1992.
        The date/time on your message must be before this time, or it will
        not be counted.  Only votes recieved by email as detailed below
        will be counted.
 
        There will be two other CFVs and mass Acknowledgements during
        this time.  The final acknowledgement and totals postings will
        be done on Wednesday, May 6, 1992.

	Send all votes to

		rdippold@qualcomm.com

	(You can just reply to this post...) Our mail is usually very
	reliable, but if it bounces, try again later.

	The first line of your post should be either

		I vote YES on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

	or
		I vote NO on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

	You may add comments below that, but only the first line will
	be used to determine your vote.  If you use YES and NO in that
	line, your vote will be discarded.


MY ACTIONS:

	I did the RFD for comp.sys.ibm.pc.games and am doing the CFV.
	This group has not been particularly controversial.  To keep it
	that way, I will not be discussing the proposal in any way which
	involves my expressing a positive or negative opinion on it.  I
	will not be doing any public or private campaigning for or against
	it.  I will, on public groups, encourage people to vote, but will
	not take a stand for or against and will encourage both YES and NO
	voters to vote.  I realize that if I do something stupid it could
	throw the new group proposal in jeopardy, so I'll be on best
	behavior.


=======================================================================

MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

This is semi-alphabetical.  Strange punctuation first, capital letters
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MYST@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
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edward haymore <haymoree@bones.caedm.byu.edu>
electro!carlo@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Carlo Sgro)
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
exukozi@exu.ericsson.se (Tom Koziatek)
failsafe@cellar.org
falcon@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Chris Alevras)
fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
fermigie%FRULM63.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (Stefane Fermigier)
fineberg@hitchcock.eng.uiowa.edu
fiveash@perfmap.austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash)
fmbasas@Athena.MIT.EDU
fnordbox!loydb@cs.utexas.edu (Loyd Blankenship)
fprovost@rc1.vub.ac.be (F. Provost (BIBL))
frerking@rafael.llnl.gov (Chris Frerking)
gah@mvaxcs1.cse.nau.edu (George Howington)
garyk@nwbcp.att.com (Gerhard E Karnik)
gessel@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Mark Abrahams-Gessel)
gjg@acpub.duke.edu (GEARY GRAHAM)
glendwer@cats.UCSC.EDU
glenn@imagen.com (glenn boozer)
glenns@microsoft.com
greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
grooth@prl.philips.nl (groothuis e)
gt0501c@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)
gt2327c@prism.gatech.edu (Brian Ricker)
gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
gt3017a@prism.gatech.edu
gt6681c@prism.gatech.edu (HEYDA,MICHAEL STEVEN)
gt8073a@prism.gatech.edu
gt8601a@prism.gatech.edu
hack@arabia.jsc.nasa.gov (Edmund Hack)
halls@ecn.purdue.edu (Scott Hall)
hargrove@cbnewsj.att.com
heiner <hk%bocad.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM>
hjf@athena.inesc.pt (Henrique Jorge Fonseca)
hnguyen@hob1.Qualcomm.COM (Hien Huu Nguyen)
hodgen@davis.uni-koblenz.de (Wayne Hodgen)
i03a@rs550.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Thomas Meyer)
ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
iverson@ivy.xstor.com
izar@cs.huji.ac.il
jason william conaway <conaway@cis.ohio-state.edu>
jayk@pogo.wv.tek.com (Jay Klippstein)
jbreen%arghouse.UUCP@nosc.mil (Magnum)
jcastner@isis.cs.du.edu (John Castner)
jdb@neocad.com (Dave Bunte)
jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
jennifer@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jennifer Schlickbernd)
jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
johnson@vixvax.mgi.com
jorgen@spock.mips.park.se (jorgen)
jrichert@krefcom.ish.de (Jan Richert)
jthornto@ee.ubc.ca (Johan Thornton)
jw@mdf.mitre.org (Joe Whalley)
jwbutler@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (J.W.)
jwj2@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry W. Jordak)
jxyb@woodsy.lanl.gov (Jeffery S Brown)
jzarin@Jade.Tufts.EDU
keithp@eagle.natinst.com (Keith Peterson)
keri elizabeth ames <ame5@midway.uchicago.edu>
kingd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chemical Genius)
kj@Solbourne.COM (Ken Sullivan)
kkittels@ub.d.umn.edu (Guy Kittelson)
klund@Athena.MIT.EDU
labwd@unix.cc.emory.edu (A. Nicolas Affadyme)
lam@mozart.cs.colostate.edu (mark lam)
lasgout@solaris.inria.fr (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes)
lhoward@javelin.sim.es.com (Larry Howard)
lin@eecom.gatech.edu (Brian Lin)
lucas@scicom.alphacdc.com (Kevin Lucas Lord)
lyn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Myself)
m91pma@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se (Patrik Manlig)
mak%garfield.cs.wisc.edu@cs.wisc.edu
malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy)
marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com
mark@hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano)
mason@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (Geoff C. Wing)
mbn@hw1.cray.com (Mike Northam)
mchapin@cse.unl.edu (Mark Chapin)
mcrware!krish@uunet.UU.NET (Kris Hoffmeyer)
mdeboer@fwi.uva.nl (Marc de Boer (I88))
mech%wdl30@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Miguel Echavarria)
meep@wpi.WPI.EDU (A Son of the Silent Age)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (mehta)
memalph!elin@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Eddie Lin)
meshreki@ee.udel.edu
mgilbert@mailbox.syr.edu (Michael W. Gilbert)
michael andrew holthouse <holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu>
michael kelly <mkelly@lazy.helios.nd.edu>
mike@x.co.uk
mka@lesti.Qualcomm.COM (Markku Kaukinen)
mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
modcomp!rss!jgreen@uunet.uu.net
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
mpolen@mips.com (Michael Polen)
murrayp@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Doctor Who)
mvidov@Athena.MIT.EDU
mwelser@fiaikds01.tu-graz.ac.at (Michael Welser)
nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
nelson jeffrey w - CS216 <jnelson@eecs.wsu.edu>
nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
noj@cats.UCSC.EDU
nupairoj@cps.msu.edu
oddt@stud.cs.uit.no (Odd Terje Lundboe)
oliver@mermaid.micro.umn.edu (Tim Rowley)
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens)
pac@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu
pacifier!michael%m2xenix.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM
palombo@cats.UCSC.EDU
parana@leland.stanford.edu
parkerw@CS.UCLA.EDU (Parker Waechter)
paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher)
pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close)
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)
pfieldma@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Charles Barkley)
phantom@cs.UMD.EDU (Scott Perry)
pjs@astro.as.utexas.edu (Peter J. Shelus)
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
pokey@med.unc.edu (Patrick O'Brien)
pr@umiacs.UMD.EDU (Jesus Rodriguez)
psheedy@nike.calpoly.edu (Patrick Sheedy  "Darkman")
quito@leland.stanford.edu (Marco Quito Perlman)
rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
redel@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Dean Redelinghuys)
revans@burn.prime.com (Robbin Evans)
rheims@Athena.MIT.EDU
ria@math.ufl.edu
rice@tamarack.cray.com (Jonathan Rice)
richardc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Richard Commander)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
roberson@eos.ncsu.edu
robert cook <rcook@wimpy.helios.nd.edu>
rrosen@cesl.rutgers.edu (Robert Rosenbaum)
rspangle@tazdevil.llnl.gov (Randy Spangler)
rudi@netmbx.netmbx.de (Rudi Schlicht)
rwyckoff@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (Catullus)
ry01@Lehigh.EDU (ROBERT YUNG)
sandia!marms@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mike Arms)
saustin@nike.calpoly.edu (Steve Austin)
sekullbe@Athena.MIT.EDU
sequent!techbook.com!markf@uunet.UU.NET (Mark Ferris)
sgil@netcom.com (Steve Gilbert)
shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ("Duckie" Shiau)
siler@cs.utk.edu
simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
sivasailam thiagarajan <sthiagar@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
smason@nike.calpoly.edu (Scott A Mason)
snow@lyrae.dnet.nasa.gov
spielman@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Terence P. Spielman)
srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
stefan@iiasa.iiasa.ac.at (Stefan Bosnjakovic)
stephen@leland.stanford.edu
steve@orchid.Tymnet.COM (Steve Sandke)
stgonzal@nike.calpoly.edu (Stephen Gonzales)
stinemet@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Paul Stinemetz)
swildner@channelz.GUN.de (Sascha Wildner)
sxjcb%am.mrgate@orca.alaska.edu
syskdg@agchem.redwater.iol.ca (Ken Gehring)
tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies)
tcm@netmail.austin.ibm.com (Tom McDonald)
terryg@gvlf8.GVL.Unisys.COM
thor@sirius.nbr.no (Thor Thorvaldsen)
thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
timbol@cory.berkeley.edu (Mike Timbol)
tkimball@remus.rutgers.edu
tnc!m0013@uunet.uu.net
toad@cellar.org
tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (John Starta)
troch@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rod Troch)
trost@reed.edu (Bill Trost)
trr@centerline.com
ttom@sales.stern.nyu.edu (Tom)
tu@nas.nasa.gov (Eugene L. Tu)
twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
u9004375@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (James A. Jessiman)
valcourt@flipper.fp.anl.gov (Scott A. Valcourt FE/207 2-2979)
vargish@sura.net
varmint@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Samir Varma)
vjg@cblph.att.com (Vincent J Guinto)
vossen@main.mndly.umn.edu
wabe@ftp.com (Josh Bluestein)
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Rick Wagner)
walsh%ibis@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
wanderer@Athena.MIT.EDU
wang-i@acsu.buffalo.edu (Haohui Wang)
warren@apple.com (Chris Warren)
warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick)
wbock@nike.calpoly.edu (Rook)
wbruvold@weber.UCSD.EDU (William Bruvold)
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
will@sim_eng.b23b.ingr.com (Will Gwaltney)
wombat@outback.abo.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway)
wrigley@milton.u.washington.edu (Bob Ennes)
yun <yun@wam.umd.edu>
zatar%dadstoy.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM (Terry Stockdale)
zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla)
-- 
Never play cards with a man called Doc.

From rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com Thu May  7 07:27:33 1992
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games passes 516: 52
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Voting on the proprosed creation of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games ended
midnight, May 4, as stated in the CFVs.  It recieved 516 yes votes and
52 no votes, thereby passing both criteria: 100 more yes votes than no
votes, and a 2/3 majority of yes votes.

There were some duplicate yes and no votes, but there were no switched
votes (and thus no question of which vote was correct).  There were
a handful of votes dated after the deadline which have been ignored.

NAME:
        comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
STATUS:
        unmoderated
CHARTER:
        To provide a forum for the discussion of games for the IBM PC or
        compatible machines.  This is not just limited to MS-DOS, but
        extends to OS/2, Windows (Yes, it's not really an OS, but...)
        and anything else which can run on an IBM PC compatible.
 
   For example (not to be taken as comprehensive):
        o Discussion of upcoming games
        o Discussion of software companies
        o Discussion of current and past games
        o Requests for help
        o Hints and spoilers
        o Personal sales and trading of games.  Not for commercial sales
          or piracy.  Any risk assumed is your own.
        o Discussion of locations of new demos and ftp sites

The majority of the current rec.games.misc FAQ will be transfered over
to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games by the current FAQ-editor.

The votes follow.  If you are listed twice or you didn't get counted,
please mention it for completeness.  However, it will take some
massive irregularities to change the outcome of the vote.

As a note on the NO votes, the majority of the comments regarded an
objection to the name.  Hopefully these people will enjoy the group
even though it is "misnamed."

NO VOTES:
------------------
al198723@next25.mty.itesm.mx
Anders H}kon Gulla <gulla@lise.unit.no>
Andy Young <andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com>
arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Berry Mobley <berry@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>
bieber@felix.filenet.com (Doug Bieber)
cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney)
Chris Newman <chrisn+@cmu.edu>
cristy@magick.es.dupont.com (Cristy)
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
fnordbox!loydb@cs.utexas.edu (Loyd Blankenship)
gjg@acpub.duke.edu (GEARY GRAHAM)
gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
Helge Hauglin <helgeha@ifi.uio.no>
Irving_Wolfe <Irving_Wolfe@happy-man.com>
Jim Cox <cox@unx.sas.com>
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
John Peng-Yung Cheng <jpc7r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU>
"Jonathan Story" <jonathan@jspc.wimsey.bc.ca>
jon@shell.com
jrichert@krefcom.ish.de (Jan Richert)
jzarin@Jade.Tufts.EDU
ks25!dougw@decwrl.dec.com
lhoward@javelin.sim.es.com (Larry Howard)
libove@det.dec.com (Jay Vassos-Libove)
lucas@scicom.alphacdc.com (Kevin Lucas Lord)
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com
mark@hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano)
Marten.Sahlen@eua.ericsson.se
mason@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (Geoff C. Wing)
Matthew A Kudzin <mkudzin@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu>
Matthew McMaster <mcmaster@stsci.edu>
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (mehta)
Morten Eriksen <mortene@lise.unit.no>
mpolen@mips.com (Michael Polen)
noj@cats.UCSC.EDU
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens)
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)
Peter Geltner <pgeltner@netcon.smc.edu>
pfieldma@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Charles Barkley)
PPUGLIESE@PimaCC.Pima.edu
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
s0067284@Calvin.EDU (Jeffrey Veen)
shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ("Duckie" Shiau)
srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
Sven Heinicke <sven@cs.widener.edu>
syskdg@agchem.redwater.iol.ca (Ken Gehring)
thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
tnc!m0013@uunet.uu.net


YES VOTES
---------------------------------------
"." <ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Aaron J Lebovitz <ajl9@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
abeals@autodesk.com (Andrew Scott Beals, KC6SSS)
ache@hq.demos.su (Andrew A. Chernov, canton Uri's citizen)
ACT102@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Adam Titmus <adamt@ibmpcug.co.uk>
adams@spss.com
Adina Adler <pho@Athena.MIT.EDU>
aht@loop.ausom.oz.au (Adrian Ting)
ahu@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
ai177@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian See)
ajr@hri.com (MFHorn)
Ake Knutsson <knut@tts.lth.se>
"Alan Estenson" <aestens@ux.acs.umn.edu>
Alan Gant <gant@capstan.convex.com>
Ale de Boer <dboer@let.rug.nl>
Alexander Maldutis <am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
ALLENS%EARLHAM.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
alliance!frankb@uunet.UU.NET (Frank Baxter)
alsegers@rc1.vub.ac.be (Segers A.)
amanda@leland.stanford.edu
amberle@Athena.MIT.EDU
andrean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andre Arianto Nurwono)
"Andrew A. Houghton" <ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Andrew Hilmer <hilmera@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU>
"Andrew Lacy, Trinity College, Dublin" <ADLACY@vax1.tcd.ie>
Andrew Robinson <robinson@cs.psu.edu>
Andy Ravenna <sasaer@unx.sas.com>
"Are you stupid? I'm psychotic." <JAUFRECHT@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Ariel "The Rogue" Rogson <ariel@CS.UCLA.EDU>
arshad@cs.uwa.edu.au (Arshad OMARI)
avi@imagen.com (avi zelmanov)
ba014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew C. Brinkhoff)
BAFF@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU
bampton@cs.utk.edu
banner@Semi.Mitel.COM (Ross Bannerman - banner@semi.mitel.com )
Barabbas <barabbas@bach.udel.edu>
barajas@Teradyne.COM (Albert Barajas)
"Bart Van Brabant" <invoker@vnet.ibm.com>
B.E.Johanson@cornell.edu (Brad Johanson)
bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will B Bell)
Ben Bourke <b.bourke@trl.oz.au>
Benjamin Fan <ST702424@brownvm.brown.edu>
bevans@tanus.cec.edu.au (Brian Evans)
bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
"Bill Rubin" <rubin@watson.ibm.com>
Bill the Cat for President!!!! <ALEGASTO@vax.clarku.edu>
bill@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (LEVIATHAN)
Bjarne Rosengren <dat92bro@ludat.lth.se>
bj_stedm@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk (Bruce Stedman)
Blair Nowakowsky <nowakowsky@arc.ab.ca>
bmarsh@cod.nosc.mil (William C. Marsh)
Bob Bent...(DTN) 234-4656  24-Apr-1992 1527 <bent@trplx.enet.dec.com>
bogart!sbutler@ub-gate.UB.com (Susan Butler)
"BOREDOM IS INFECTIOUS..." <IRC_AL@vax.clarku.edu>
borgen@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Noest)
boris@athena.eng.hou.compaq.com (Boris Litinsky)
Brian Park <bprk_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Brian Vetter <MSDOP01@ALF.APPSTATE.EDU>
brooke@dove.caltech.edu (Brooke Anderson)
bryanwu@cs.tamu.edu (Chuan-Yuan Wu)
"Bryon Daly, ECE Dept, UMass, Amherst" <DALY@ecs.umass.edu>
Burt N Holzman <bh1t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
bylander@math.utexas.edu
<C1M@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
c9e-al@danube.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien)
cammejpm@camme.ac.be (J.-P. Malisse CAMME project)
Carlos Borges <carlos@odie.cs.mun.ca>
carlton@apollo.hp.com (Carlton B. Hommel)
Carsten Clasohm <clasohm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
CBTCC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
cej@ccsitn.att.com (Charles E Jones)
cgllgher@unix2.tcd.ie (    SPARKY     )
Charles Bentley Cranston <zben@wam.umd.edu>
Charles Fineman <fineman@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>
chaz@vpnet.chi.il.us (Charlie Kestner)
Chin Huang <cthuang%zerosan.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM>
Choo Choon Kiat <choock@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com>
chow@theory.TC.CORNELL.EDU (Christopher Chow)
Chris Niekel <cniekel@cs.vu.nl>
CHRISTIAN DECHAMPLAIN <dechc00@dmi.usherb.ca>
Christoph Lipp <lipp@urz.unibas.ch>
Chuck Harrison <HARRISCA@ROSEVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu>
Chung Lau <lauch@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu>
close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
Colin Edward Mac Donald <colin@ug.cs.dal.ca>
Corby.E.Page@Dartmouth.EDU (Corby E. Page)
corpane!herman@uunet.UU.NET (Harry Herman)
CORREA@VAX.SONOMA.EDU
COSC16B9@Jetson.UH.EDU
Coyt D Watters <cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Craig Coffin <craig@cauchy.math.mun.ca>
Creeping Death <stasica@spot.Colorado.EDU>
cs012058@cs.brown.edu (James Lowe)
cs171wba@sdcc5.UCSD.EDU (Christopher Fodor)
CS456 Student <na1cs456@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
csmith@onetouch.COM
CTB@ecl.psu.edu
cunningham@hns.com (Gregory J. Cunningham)
dal@mda.ca (Dale Lutz)
Dana Carroll <dcarroll@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>
Daniel Hermans <dmh@superb@rand.mel.cocam.oz.au>
Daniel Rosler <dbr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
dan@mordor.webo.dg.com (Dan Zehme)
dans@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel L. Schneider)
dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com (David D'Antonio)
Darren Eslke <elskedar@u.washington.edu>
"Darren Merrill" <merrill@cs.arizona.edu>
"Darryl Friesen (7610)" <FRIESENDA@sask.usask.ca>
"Darryl Gamble" <darryl@cs.yorku.ca>
Dave Meyer <dmm0t@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Davebo! <DJWEISBERGER@amherst.edu>
daveg@prowler.clearpoint.com (Dave Goldblatt)
"David A Berson" <daberson@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
David A. Lee <dali@u.washington.edu>
David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
David M. Baggett <dmb@wam.umd.edu>
David Reeve Sward <dsa3+@andrew.cmu.edu>
david teghtsoonian <umteghts@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
davidh@swbatl.sbc.com (Dave Howarth 5-9085)
davidm@gvlf8.GVL.Unisys.COM
db0885@adelphi.edu (David J. Bristel)
dean@xocolatl.com (Dean Dierschow)
D.E.Kidder@cornell.edu
deyoe@gdwest.gd.com (Scott A. Deyoe)
dhumphre@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Humphreys)
DJW100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
dlb@zippysun.math.uakron.edu (Dave Bartlett)
dmoen@cyrano.tcs.com (Dan Moen)
do@acsu.buffalo.edu (Huy T. Do)
dogface!wnss!lance@cs.utexas.edu
doodsf@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Sam messin w/ Unix)
Doug Gibson <DOUG@abby.chem.ucla.edu>
dowling@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Dowling)
drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Devin Ben-Hur)
Dreamtime <94ASL@williams.edu>
duggelz@iastate.edu
Dwane Aldrich <aldrich@u.washington.edu>
dwiseman@erim.org (Dave Wiseman)
eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
easmith@lotus.cray.com (Eric A Smith)
echuang@cory.berkeley.edu (Ernest Y. Chuang)
eckner@iqe.ethz.ch (Juerg Eckner)
Ed Baker <ed@kronos.com>
EDB_MORTEN@KREDIT.NHH.NO (MORTEN LXHRE)
edbruij@hvlpb.att.com
edg@ingres.com (Ed Goldman)
edward haymore <haymoree@bones.caedm.byu.edu>
Edward Schroeder <civic@camelot.bradley.edu>
ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
electro!carlo@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Carlo Sgro)
Eric Haines <erich@eye.com>
Eric Hsiao <hsiaoe@rpi.edu>
Eric Lundquist <ericl@tsunami.ocean.washington.edu>
Eric_Munson <n9044398@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
ETX_SXM@eds.ericsson.se
evans@ihlpm.att.com (Daniel L Evans)
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
exukozi@exu.ericsson.se (Tom Koziatek)
"Ezra M. Dreisbach" <ed10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
failsafe@cellar.org
falcon@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Chris Alevras)
FCROSSEN@ccvax.ucd.ie
fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
fermigie%FRULM63.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (Stefane Fermigier)
fineberg@hitchcock.eng.uiowa.edu
<==FireIce==@pollux.cs.uga.edu> <ruben@pollux.cs.uga.edu>
fiveash@perfmap.austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash)
fmbasas@Athena.MIT.EDU
fprovost@rc1.vub.ac.be (F. Provost (BIBL))
Frank Slootweg CRC <franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com>
Fredrik Knoph Kvamme <fredrik@lise.unit.no>
frerking@rafael.llnl.gov (Chris Frerking)
fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz)
gah@mvaxcs1.cse.nau.edu (George Howington)
garyk@nwbcp.att.com (Gerhard E Karnik)
Gavin Shearer <gavin@spider.co.uk>
"G.C.McGregor" <cnap34@computer-centre-sun.strathclyde.ac.uk>
gessel@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Mark Abrahams-Gessel)
Glen Cox <write@eff.org>
glendwer@cats.UCSC.EDU
glenn@imagen.com (glenn boozer)
glenns@microsoft.com
greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Greg Franklin <F67709317@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU>
"Gregory Sherar" <gsherar@sarthe.cme.umn.edu>
grooth@prl.philips.nl (groothuis e)
gt0501c@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)
gt2327c@prism.gatech.edu (Brian Ricker)
gt3017a@prism.gatech.edu
gt6681c@prism.gatech.edu (HEYDA,MICHAEL STEVEN)
gt8073a@prism.gatech.edu
gt8601a@prism.gatech.edu
gtsi!rich@uunet.UU.NET (Richard Lawrence)
Guy Kendall <gkendall@ncr-mpd.ftcollins.NCR.COM>
hack@arabia.jsc.nasa.gov (Edmund Hack)
halls@ecn.purdue.edu (Scott Hall)
Hamish.Moffatt@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Harald.T.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
hargrove@cbnewsj.att.com
heiner <hk%bocad.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM>
"Henry Yeung" <csd0733@ux.acs.umn.edu>
Herb Lam <stsshol@st.unocal.com>
hjf@athena.inesc.pt (Henrique Jorge Fonseca)
hnguyen@hob1.Qualcomm.COM (Hien Huu Nguyen)
hodgen@davis.uni-koblenz.de (Wayne Hodgen)
"Hollis M. Schuler" <hs02+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Howard Shubs <hshubs@eff.org>
i03a@rs550.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Thomas Meyer)
ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Ike@cup.portal.com
INDE716@Jetson.UH.EDU
ins132g@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike Battersby)
IO10045@MAINE.maine.edu (Jay J. Demers)
Isaac Mauro Espinoza <ime2x@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
iverson@ivy.xstor.com
izar@cs.huji.ac.il
"James Klingler" <JRK123@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
James Reed <jmr5125@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Jamison.Gray@Eng.Sun.COM (Jamison Gray)
Jari Petri Karjala <jka@vipunen.hut.fi>
jason william conaway <conaway@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Jay Thierry HAN <HAN%FRECP12.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
jayk@pogo.wv.tek.com (Jay Klippstein)
jbreen%arghouse.UUCP@nosc.mil (Magnum)
jcastner@isis.cs.du.edu (John Castner)
jdb@neocad.com (Dave Bunte)
jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
JEFFERS@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK
jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Jeffrey Coldren Aikin <jaikin@wam.umd.edu>
Jeffrey Paul Clark <jpclark@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu>
jennifer@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jennifer Schlickbernd)
Jeremy Louis Billones <billoj@rpi.edu>
Jess Anderson <anderson@macc.wisc.edu>
jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Jim Orr <jorr@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
jmb@alfer.att.com (James M Barton)
Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray)
"John B. Clements" <clements@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
john doppke <jdoppke@lazy.helios.nd.edu>
John Herman <jsh@SEI.CMU.EDU>
"John W. Boelter" <BOELTER3945@iscsvax.uni.edu>
johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
johnson@vixvax.mgi.com
Jonathan Bric Houze <houze@brahms.udel.edu>
jorgen@spock.mips.park.se (jorgen)
jthornto@ee.ubc.ca (Johan Thornton)
jwbutler@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (J.W.)
jwj2@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry W. Jordak)
jw@mdf.mitre.org (Joe Whalley)
jxyb@woodsy.lanl.gov (Jeffery S Brown)
jyip@Athena.MIT.EDU
Keith H Driscoll <kdriscol@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Keith Steiger <ameiba@reed.edu>
"Keith Woolner" <kwoolner@us.oracle.com>
keithp@eagle.natinst.com (Keith Peterson)
Ken Fishkin <fishkin@parc.xerox.com>
Kenneth Anderson <kanderso@mabillon.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Kenneth R Aron <kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
keri elizabeth ames <ame5@midway.uchicago.edu>
"Kevin C. Dutt" <kcdutt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Kevin Martin <martin@cs.unc.edu>
Kimmo Ketolainen <kimketo@utu.fi>
kingd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chemical Genius)
kinstrey@rdrc.rpi.edu
"Kirby Stiening" <A760@DMT03.mcc.Virginia.EDU>
kish@compsci.bristol.ac.uk
kj@Solbourne.COM (Ken Sullivan)
kkittels@ub.d.umn.edu (Guy Kittelson)
kkt@philabs.Philips.Com  (Kim-Kiat Tan)
klund@Athena.MIT.EDU
"KRISTER ERIKSSON (BIO)" <KRERIKSSON@finabo.abo.fi>
kuip@sus.eur.nl (F. Kuiper)
KULANCE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
labwd@unix.cc.emory.edu (A. Nicolas Affadyme)
lam@mozart.cs.colostate.edu (mark lam)
lasgout@solaris.inria.fr (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes)
Lasse Hero <larry@purkki.apu.fi>
Laurent SALINAS <Laurent.Salinas@sophia.inria.fr>
Len Goldberg  08-Apr-1992 1257 <goldberg@ljohub.enet.dec.com>
lenny@iti.gov.sg (Lenny Lim Kiong Peng)
Les Gehman <lpg@hpfilpg.fc.hp.com>
lin@eecom.gatech.edu (Brian Lin)
"Lionel Dupuis ITP/RIC" <dupuisl@LANNION.CNET.fr>
Lou Sanchez-Chopitea <lou@hobbes.xilinx.com>
Luechai Chowpradith <luechai@uop.uop.edu>
lyn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Myself)
m91pma@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se (Patrik Manlig)
Mac Su-Cheong <NCKUS089%TWNMOE10.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
Magnus Olsson <magnus@thep.lu.se>
mak%garfield.cs.wisc.edu@cs.wisc.edu
malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy)
mam2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Marshall A Mills)
Marc BRANCHAUD <marcnarc@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca>
Marc.Fraioli@halluc.com (Marc Fraioli)
Mark Bagdy <bagdy@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>
Mark Kuebeler <mkk9316@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Mark Marino <omar@osf.org>
Mark McCafferty <sgccmmc@citecuc.citec.oz.au>
"Mark V Shaney" <shaney@dobbs.cambridge.ma.us>
Martyn J. Wheeler <sasmjw@unx.sas.com>
"Matthew Blum" <mblum@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Matthew Storch <storch@cs.uiuc.edu>
matt@solwarra.gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt Crowd)
matwood%peruvian@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
mbn@hw1.cray.com (Mike Northam)
mchapin@cse.unl.edu (Mark Chapin)
mcrware!krish@uunet.UU.NET (Kris Hoffmeyer)
mdeboer@fwi.uva.nl (Marc de Boer (I88))
mech%wdl30@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Miguel Echavarria)
meep@wpi.WPI.EDU (A Son of the Silent Age)
memalph!elin@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Eddie Lin)
meshreki@ee.udel.edu
mgilbert@mailbox.syr.edu (Michael W. Gilbert)
mharring@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Mark Harrington - EECS (CPTS350))
michael andrew holthouse <holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Michael James Gebis <mjg51721@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
michael kelly <mkelly@lazy.helios.nd.edu>
Michael Lewchuk <lewchuk@cs.ualberta.ca>
Michael Niermann <Michael.Niermann@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>
Michael Roeder <roeder@sokrates.isa.de>
Mike Basinger <dbasinge@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Mike Littau <littaum@nyssa.CS.ORST.EDU>
Mike O'Connor <oconnor@ans.net>
Mike Perez <louisp@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU>
"Mike Sisolak" <msiso@gvp.isnet.com>
MiKE <U94_MYAKUBOV@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
Mike_Dunn@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Dunn)
mike@x.co.uk
minnotte@rice.edu (Michael Minnotte)
mka@lesti.Qualcomm.COM (Markku Kaukinen)
mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
modcomp!rss!jgreen@uunet.uu.net
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
mrm@odin.ncssm.edu (Mike Marcelais)
MSKALA%ESRIN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de
murrayp@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Doctor Who)
mvidov@Athena.MIT.EDU
mwelser@fiaikds01.tu-graz.ac.at (Michael Welser)
MXD120@PSUVM.Qualcomm.COM (Beaker)
MYST@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
nelson jeffrey w - CS216 <jnelson@eecs.wsu.edu>
Nelson Tang <tang-nelson@CS.YALE.EDU>
nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Neto David <a2535net@cdf.toronto.edu>
""None of ya Bizness"" <mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu>
"Norman St. John Polevaulter" <MBS110@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
NUM208JN@MBDS.NRC.CA (John Nash)
nupairoj@cps.msu.edu
oddt@stud.cs.uit.no (Odd Terje Lundboe)
oliver@mermaid.micro.umn.edu (Tim Rowley)
Olli Rinne <otr@tik.vtt.fi>
opus@ihlpy.att.com (Robin Kim)
Oren Mitz <oren@coma.huji.ac.il>
pac@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu
pacifier!michael%m2xenix.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM
Pall Helgason <palli@lise.unit.no>
palombo@cats.UCSC.EDU
parana@leland.stanford.edu
parkerw@CS.UCLA.EDU (Parker Waechter)
Paul Palmer <palmerp@MATH.ORST.EDU>
Paul Wang <paulwang@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no
paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher)
pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close)
pegasus@ascend.com (Larry Starkand)
Per Abrahamsen <abraham@iesd.auc.dk>
Peter Arien <LAAAA43%BLEKUL11.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Peter Norby <norby@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Peter.Parnes@ludd.luth.se
phantom@cs.UMD.EDU (Scott Perry)
PHTH@cc.newcastle.edu.au
pjs@astro.as.utexas.edu (Peter J. Shelus)
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
pokey@med.unc.edu (Patrick O'Brien)
pr@umiacs.UMD.EDU (Jesus Rodriguez)
psheedy@nike.calpoly.edu (Patrick Sheedy  "Darkman")
quito@leland.stanford.edu (Marco Quito Perlman)
rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
redel@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Dean Redelinghuys)
revans@burn.prime.com (Robbin Evans)
rheims@Athena.MIT.EDU
ria@math.ufl.edu
rice@tamarack.cray.com (Jonathan Rice)
richardc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Richard Commander)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
"Rob Heerdink"  <ROB%fepi@charon.far.ruu.nl>
Rob Skrobola <rjs@citi.umich.edu>
roberson@eos.ncsu.edu
robert cook <rcook@wimpy.helios.nd.edu>
"Robert E. Vines" <revg9691@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Robert "Xemu" Fermier <rfermier@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Rodney Chen <rchen@warren.arc.nasa.gov>
Roman Fischer <rofische@iiic.ethz.ch>
Ronald W. Pritchett <pritchet%usceast@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu>
ross@kaos.b23b.ingr.com (Ross Erickson)
rrosen@cesl.rutgers.edu (Robert Rosenbaum)
rspangle@tazdevil.llnl.gov (Randy Spangler)
rudi@netmbx.netmbx.de (Rudi Schlicht)
Russell Sparkes <russell@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au>
rvs%parst1.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM (Roelof van Suilichem)
"R.W-W" <D9151111@zac.riv.csu.edu.au>
rwyckoff@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (Catullus)
ry01@Lehigh.EDU (ROBERT YUNG)
"S. Frick, Ericsson Telecom" <FRICK@insm2.ericsson.se>
S. Lee <qa1cs220@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
S9971818@TETHYS.UCC.UMASS.EDU
SAM <samegen@cs.vu.nl>
Sam Shen <sls@aero.org>
Samuel Samho Chang <sc5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
samuel@cs.cornell.edu (S. Weber)
sandia!marms@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mike Arms)
saustin@nike.calpoly.edu (Steve Austin)
sbonds@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
Scott Boutwell <sboutwel@sandbox.kenn.wa.us>
sekullbe@Athena.MIT.EDU
Senioritis <polansky@Athena.MIT.EDU>
sequent!techbook.com!markf@uunet.UU.NET (Mark Ferris)
Sergio.Murru%bbs@osra.sublink.org (Sergio Murru)
Seth Leichter <leichter@cs.widener.edu>
sgil@netcom.com (Steve Gilbert)
SHANE BEST <bestsl@cain.cs.curtin.edu.au>
"Shawn Berg" <sab@reef.cis.ufl.edu>
siler@cs.utk.edu
Silk <unixwiz@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
sivasailam thiagarajan <sthiagar@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
SLQY8@cc.usu.edu
smason@nike.calpoly.edu (Scott A Mason)
snow@lyrae.dnet.nasa.gov
spielman@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Terence P. Spielman)
sroth@apd.MENTORG.COM (Steve Roth)
STEELEKM@ALF.APPSTATE.EDU
stefan@iiasa.iiasa.ac.at (Stefan Bosnjakovic)
Stephen M Smith <smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Stephen R Chen <schen@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
stephen@leland.stanford.edu
steve@orchid.Tymnet.COM (Steve Sandke)
stgonzal@nike.calpoly.edu (Stephen Gonzales)
stinemet@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Paul Stinemetz)
Stu Galley <galley@Think.COM>
"Stuart L Labovitz" <stu@valinor.mythical.com>
Sunny Walker  <swalker@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
swildner@channelz.GUN.de (Sascha Wildner)
sxjcb%am.mrgate@orca.alaska.edu
tanida@forseti.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies)
tcm@netmail.austin.ibm.com (Tom McDonald)
"T.D. Sadlier" <T.D.Sadlier@massey.ac.nz>
@techno.fuug.fi:ache@hq.demos.su (Andrew A. Chernov, canton Uri's citizen)
terryg@gvlf8.GVL.Unisys.COM
The Eye of Fatima <willday@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
THE KING'S QUEST MASTER <NGSIPPEL@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu>
The Meltz Inc. <mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu>
The Myth <jfreter@triton.unm.edu>
The Pakistani Nukeman aka The Arabian Pheonix <bhuttam@woods.ulowell.edu>
thor@sirius.nbr.no (Thor Thorvaldsen)
Thorsten_Kitz@mk.maus.de (Thorsten Kitz)
Tim Adam <tmadam@mullian.ee.Mu.OZ.AU>
Tim Mills - Systems Group  <T.MILLS@qut.edu.au>
timbol@cory.berkeley.edu (Mike Timbol)
tkimball@remus.rutgers.edu
toad@cellar.org
Tod B Bussert <tbbusser@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu>
tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
Toni Cortes Rossello <toni@ac.upc.es>
Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk>
Tony Wilson <wilson@stc.nl>
tony@cns.nyu.edu (Tony Movshon)
tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (John Starta)
troch@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rod Troch)
trost@reed.edu (Bill Trost)
Troy A Baer <tabaer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
trr@centerline.com
ttom@sales.stern.nyu.edu (Tom)
tu@nas.nasa.gov (Eugene L. Tu)
twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
u9004375@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (James A. Jessiman)
V101Q4CT@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
valcourt@flipper.fp.anl.gov (Scott A. Valcourt FE/207 2-2979)
VANFOSSEN_ANDY/OMGATE_US@gate.us.ohio-state.edu
vargish@sura.net
varmint@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Samir Varma)
VHSPET01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA
Ville Lavonius <lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi>
vjg@cblph.att.com (Vincent J Guinto)
vossen@main.mndly.umn.edu
wabe@ftp.com (Josh Bluestein)
waflowers@quantum.on.ca (Bill Flowers)
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Rick Wagner)
walsh%ibis@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
wanderer@Athena.MIT.EDU
wang-i@acsu.buffalo.edu (Haohui Wang)
warren@apple.com (Chris Warren)
warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick)
wbock@nike.calpoly.edu (Rook)
wbruvold@weber.UCSD.EDU (William Bruvold)
WCHE%POLYVM@vm.poly.edu
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
west@esd.dl.nec.com       (Mike West)
William L Weaver <wweaver@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
William Wong <wiwong@sales.stern.nyu.edu>
will@sim_eng.b23b.ingr.com (Will Gwaltney)
wombat@outback.abo.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway)
wrigley@milton.u.washington.edu (Bob Ennes)
Yaacov Fenster  12-Apr-1992 1641 <fenster@taveng.enet.dec.com>
YAKUBOVM@FSHVMCC.VNET.IBM.COM
yun <yun@wam.umd.edu>
zatar%dadstoy.UUCP@Qualcomm.COM (Terry Stockdale)
zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla)

If you actually read this far, congratulations!  You win a no-prize.
Wubba Wubba.
-- 
I don't have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem.

From ron@vpnet.chi.il.us Mon Sep 11 20:57:44 1995
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Subject: RFD:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
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After weeks of looking and searching, I have determined that there is no
newsgroup for discussing games that are played on an ms-dos machine. I
believe that there could be a need for this as there are lots of
frustrating games for ms-dos machines, and probably lots of frustrated
people as well!

Therefore, I propose comp.sys.ibm.pc.games, an unmoderated newsgroup for
the discussion of games and gaming stratagies that are played on an
ms-dos compatible machine running ms-dos.

There is currently both comp.sys.amiga.games, and comp.sys.mac.games,
both of which have a relatively healthy amount discussion. Why not add
one for ms-dos machines?

Anyway, I probably missed something somewhere as this is my first time
posting a CFD, so if I missed anything I sincerely apologize to the net
for the waste of bandwidth, but if I haven't, then let's get discussing!

-- Ron
Ron Winograd        <Insert huge 20 line sig here>        ron@vpnet.chi.il.us

From rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com Tue Sep 12 10:47:05 1995
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: RFD:  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
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This is a REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION concerning the creation of an UNMODERATED
newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.

NAME: 
        comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

	Group names have previously been discussed on rec.games.misc,
	and the overwhelming favorite, because of the previous precedent of
	groups such as comp.sys.mac.games, comp.sys.amiga.games, and
	comp.binaries.ibm.pc, is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.  It is recognized that
	"ibm.pc" does not cover the entire range of machines which are
	affected by this group, such as PS/2s and other software compatibles.
	However, "ibm.pc" seems to be the recognized name for this group of
	machines in the rest of the hierarchy.

STATUS:
        unmoderated

CHARTER:

	To provide a forum for the discussion of games which run on
	the IBM PC family of computers.

	For example:
	  o Discussion of upcoming games
	  o Discussion of current and past games
	  o Requests for help
	  o Hints
	  o Personal sales and trading of games (not copies!)
	  o Discussion of new demos and their locations

	These are taken directly from the current discussions taking place
	on rec.games.misc.

RATIONALE:

	This has been discussed extensively in rec.games.misc prior to
this RFD.  It has been much discussed in the past, but failed due to
the lack of anyone dumb enough to take on the resulting work.

	The primary motive is to get the huge amount traffic regarding
IBM games off of rec.games.misc, where it now dominates the group.  PC
compatible users can read only about their games, if they choose, and
those who aren't interested in them will have a much less unwieldy
rec.games.misc, where other games under its charter can be discussed
more freely.

	A quick poll was taken on rec.games.misc, which resulted in
over 50 email letters in a single day from those who were very
interested in creating the new group.  This hopefully will make it
almost a certainty that the excess of 100 yes votes will be gathered.
Both groups (the PC users and the non-PC users) have expressed support
for this move.

	Comments on the group creation and name are welcome.  Please post
all responses on 

	news.groups

which is the followup group for this message, and not on rec.games.misc.

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It's like deja vu all over again.  -- Yogi Berra

 
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