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Databases ( comp.sys.mac.databases )
 
From [email protected] Fri Nov  6 10:18:21 1992
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From: [email protected] (Hades)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.sys.mac.databases passes 167: 23
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    The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.databases passes with 167 Yes votes
and 23 No votes. The charter is included below for the group along
with the final ACK of Yes votes and No votes.


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Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases
Status: Unmoderated
Charter:
    The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of
database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers.
Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to
comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly
applications they are development environments similar in scope to
Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems
for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex
relational/multi-user system.

*****************
NO VOTES

"Kenton A. Hoover" <[email protected]>
Arne Henrik Juul <[email protected]>
Bob Funchess <[email protected]>
Dan Fain <[email protected]>
Edward John Sabol <[email protected]>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <[email protected]>
John G Dobnick <[email protected]>
[email protected]
canrem!krzysztof.adamski (Krzysztof Adamski)
[email protected] (Carl Rigney)
[email protected] (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
[email protected] (Daryl Erwin)
[email protected] (Ed Maldonado)
[email protected] (Paul Eggert)
[email protected] (Quincey Koziol)
[email protected] (Memphis_TN)
[email protected] (Sigurd Meldal)
[email protected] (Jeff Anton)
[email protected] (Alan Denney)
[email protected] (William Moxley)
[email protected] (Tim Kuehn)


*****************
YES VOTES

"Anand Rao, Dept. Animal & Food Science" <[email protected]>
"Bonnie J. Black" <[email protected]>
"Brian Excarnate" <[email protected]>
"JOHN,(714)896-1393,A95/17-4A48" <[email protected]>
"Jim Golden" <[email protected]>
"Lawrence Reed Miller" <[email protected]>
"Phil Shapiro" <[email protected]>
"RYAN SEAN P" <[email protected]>
"Robert (Bob) Ruf" <[email protected]>
"Tim Streater (415) 926-2743" <[email protected]>
"Virgil W. Smaltz" <[email protected]>
"Zach Kessin" <[email protected]>
"eric john weidl" <[email protected]>
"peter maitland bell" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
A. Lani Teshima  <[email protected]>
Alan Coopersmith <[email protected]>
Allan Udy <[email protected]>
Andreas Magnusson <[email protected]>
Andrew Dent <[email protected]>
Bengt Larsson <[email protected]>
Bill Innanen <[email protected]>
Charles Sederholm <[email protected]>
Christopher Davis <[email protected]>
Christopher Landers <[email protected]>
Dana E. Keil <[email protected]>
Daniel Arkin <[email protected]>
EHPittman <[email protected]>
Ellen Brewer <[email protected]>
Garance A Drosehn <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Geoffrey Maugham)
Hans Peder Jepsen <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Jaakko S Wallenius <[email protected]>
Jaakko Siuko <[email protected]>
Jack Slingerland <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Jeff Wasilko)
Jim Gaynor <[email protected]>
Jo Lejeune <[email protected]>
John Fairbairn <[email protected]>
Juergen Schroth <[email protected]>
L L Campbell <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Linda Cornell <[email protected]>
Linda Schlipper <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Matthias Butt <[email protected]>
Maurice Weitman <[email protected]>
Michael Vogt <[email protected]>
Mika Thynell <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
Peter J Gergely <[email protected]>
Phaedrus <[email protected]>
Po Shan Cheah <[email protected]>
Povl Hessellund Pedersen <[email protected]>
R.S.LITTLE <[email protected]>
ROB DEWHIRST <[email protected]>
Ragnar Normann <[email protected]>
Robert Park <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Sami Hero <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Shawn Connelly)
Stu Galley <[email protected]>
Tom Dubinski <[email protected]>
Tron <[email protected]>
Zahir Parpia <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Michael Sapienza)
[email protected] (Samuel Alcoff)
[email protected] (Alexis Rosen)
[email protected] (Peter Rauch)
[email protected] (Happy Hacker )
[email protected] (Eric Aubourg)
bellahs!jjamison@uunet.UU.NET (John Jamison)
bellamy@commerce.uq.oz.au
boomrang!dak@mips.com (David A. Kearney)
brkirby@mailbox.syr.edu (Kirby)
buntschf@motsat.sat.mot.com (Frank Buntschuh)
canada@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Curt Canada)
cca@pdsf.ssc.gov (charles allen)
cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill)
d90-two@nada.kth.se
daniel@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (daniel quoidbach)
dbase!cy@rutgers.edu (Cy Shuster)
dhtucker@digi.lonestar.org (Doug Tucker)
dir@loop.ausom.oz.au (David Rowe)
djensen@claven.idbsu.edu
dks@Athena.MIT.EDU
dl1@ukc.ac.uk
dlc@ais.org (David Claytor)
dlong@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
dmittman@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (David Mittman)
drg@isr.harvard.edu (Dean R Gallant)
ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
edsr!bigdaddy!cdm@uunet.UU.NET (Clifford D. Morrison)
ennui@trauma.com (N is for Neville who died of ennui)
ericd@caticsuf.CSUFresno.EDU (Eric W. Douglas)
fabio@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it (Fabio Vitali)
face@arizona.edu (Chris Janton)
flowers@csrd.uiuc.edu (Craig Flowers)
fpillet@frmug.fr.mugnet.org (Florent Pillet)
fvanalst@acc.stolaf.edu
gandhi3@husc.harvard.edu
gbs@stratus.swdc.stratus.com (George B. Smith)
geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
georg@deerwood.zigzag.hanse.de (Georg Rehfeld)
greibach@CS.UCLA.EDU (Dr Sheila Greibach)
gurney@cps.msu.edu (Eddy J. Gurney)
haijo@cs.rug.nl (H. Schipper)
haynes@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Carl W. Haynes III)
hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu
irwin@galton.uchicago.edu (Mark Irwin)
itkin@mrspoc.transact.com (Steven List)
jang@forit.forut.no ( Jan Grav )
jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
jgp@loop.ausom.oz.au (Jeff Pamplin)
jlha@se.alcbel.be (Jaime Lopez Hartmann)
josephk@css.itd.umich.edu
josh@Athena.MIT.EDU
jovanovic@cuccfa.ccc.columbia.edu
kenigson@cs.utk.edu
kos@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
krr@msc.edu (Kurt Richards)
louie@granite.ma30.bull.com (Daniel Y. Louie)
magnuson@UNIXHUB.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Bruce D. Magnuson)
marcus@cs.uwa.oz.au (Marcus Jager)
maw5506@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.A. Weissman)
mbullock@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Margaret Bullock)
melliott@imsa.edu (Matt Elliott)
mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael L Barrow)
mlw@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Martha L. Wilson)
mmuegel@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Michael S. Muegel)
mward@netcom.com (Michael Ward)
newave!john (John A. Weeks III)
orpheus@reed.edu (P. Hawthorne)
paulr@email.sp.unisys.com (Paul Raulerson)
pearcb@hhcs.gov.au
penjones@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Penelope A. Jones)
peter@cs.uwa.oz.au (Peter Dodd)
peters@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brooks Peters)
peturp@rhi.hi.is
ralph@mtunp.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
rbrink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Rick Brink)
research@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mike Leavitt)
rich9256@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (devin n richards)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robichau@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
rreid@isis.cs.du.edu (Mr. Robin R. Reid)
rsfinn@concerto.lcs.mit.edu (Russell S. Finn)
rsp@gw.wmich.edu (WMU RESEARCH & SPONSORED PROGRAMS)
ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman)
sayle@ucs.ubc.ca
srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
steele@vlsi.cs.caltech.edu (Craig Steele)
steve@pinet.aip.org (Steve Lushing)
taylord@ecn.purdue.edu (David G Taylor)
tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter)
thisted@galton.uchicago.edu
tichelen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
toml@voodoo.boeing.com (Tom Locke)
triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos)
unhtel!paul@senex.unh.edu (Paul S. Sawyer)
vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
vk4kt@solwarra.gbrmpa.gov.au (Wayne Amisano)
wbrown@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown)
whenry@lindy.Stanford.EDU (homo obsolescensis)

--
-Hades  (Brian V. Hughes)   | "So, Al, is she a moaner or a screamer?"
 hades@Coos.Dartmouth.Edu   | "BUCK, you're talking about the Femthux I love!"
 Mac Database Developer     | "Ok, is she a buzzer or a whistler?"
 Dartmouth Medical School   | "Well, if you're going to get personal..."



From hades@coos.dartmouth.edu Mon Sep 11 22:14:21 1995
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Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Subject: RFD:  comp.sys.mac.databases
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: hiebeler@cs.rpi.edu
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Date: 25 Nov 91 16:32:16 GMT
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

    This is the formal call for discussion for the group
Comp.Sys.Mac.Databases. All follow up discussion will take place in
news.groups, please make sure that your posts go only to that group, and
that you keep comp.sys.mac.databases in the subject line to help those with
kill files...

----------------

Group Name:	comp.sys.mac.databases

Group Status:	Unmoderated

Group Charter:	For discussion of all database design software that is
based on the Macintosh. The main participants being 4th Dimension, File
Force, FileMaker Pro, Double Helix, and Omnis (5 and 7). It might also be
possible for this group to act as a gateway for the 4th Dimension mailing
list, but not act as a replacement.

----------------

    Database design for the Mac, specifically those systems that are not
based on SQL or DBase, and do not currently exist on other systems because
they are designed for the Macintosh interface, has been looking for a place
to live and breathe within the UseNet community. To this end, discussion
can be found in comp.databases, comp.sys.mac.apps, and comp.sys.mac.misc,
but these systems are usually quite different from those talked about in
comp.databases, and they are not technically applications that would
normally be discussed in c.s.m.apps. A database is a design environment,
and is also a growing area in the Mac world. For these reasons we are
proposing comp.sys.mac.databases.

    The discussion period will last at least 3 weeks from the time that
this post arrives in news.announce.newgroups, and at that time if it is
generally considerd that the discuddion period has concluded, then the
official CFV will be posted.

    The current possibilites for vote takers are:
		Brian V. Hughes(me) - hades@dartmouth.edu
		David C. Spiegelman - ennui@trauma.com


-- 
-Hades  (Brian V. Hughes)   | "Impossible odds, mentally unbalanced foes,
 Mac Database Administrator |  cramped quarters for a good punch-up. And
 Cancer & Leukemia Group B  |  they say Iest has no night life!" - Cerebus
 Dartmouth Medical School   | -Internet: hades@Coos.Dartmouth.Edu

From hades@coos.dartmouth.edu Mon Sep 11 22:15:39 1995
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Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Subject: CFV:  comp.sys.mac.databases
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@cs.rpi.edu
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Date: 17 Dec 91 13:48:09 GMT
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

    This is the official Call for Votes for the news group
comp.sys.mac.databases. Voting will contine through 23:59 January, 15th
1992. 

    To vote please send a mail message to hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (or just
reply to this posting). 

    If the the vote is a yes vote then please have "YES-VOTE" in the
subject line. 

    If the vote is a no vote then please have "NO-VOTE" in the subject
line.

    This is to make my life a lot easier so that my mail program can
properly process the votes. All I am asking for is that the subject lines
follow this pattern. 
    There will be a 2nd CFV and a mass Ack posted on December 27th, please
don't expect individual acknowlegements of your votes as I do not have the
time or the shell scripts to do so.

    PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR VOTES TO THE NET. Any votes done in this manner
will not be counted. Only the last vote of a voter will be counted.


Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases
Status: Unmoderated
Charter:
    The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of
database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers.
Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to
comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly
applications they are development environments similar in scope to
Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems
for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex
relational/multi-user system.
-- 
-Hades  (Brian V. Hughes)   | "Impossible odds, mentally unbalanced foes,
 Mac Database Administrator |  cramped quarters for a good punch-up. And
 Cancer & Leukemia Group B  |  they say Iest has no night life!" - Cerebus
 Dartmouth Medical School   | -Internet: hades@Coos.Dartmouth.Edu

From hades@coos.dartmouth.edu Mon Sep 11 22:16:21 1995
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Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.sys.mac.databases
Followoup-To: poster
Sender: tale@cs.rpi.edu
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Date: 31 Dec 91 23:05:23 GMT
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Status: O
X-Status: 

    This is the 2nd CFV for the new group comp.sys.mac.databases; below is
the charter from the original CFV along with instructions for mailing in a
vote. Also contained below is the current ACK of votes already received.
They are in alphabetical order and all duplicates have been removed.

------

    This is the official Call for Votes for the news group
comp.sys.mac.databases. Voting will contine through Midnight January, 15th
1992. 

    To vote please send a mail message to hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (or just
reply to this posting). 

    If the the vote is a yes vote then please have "YES-VOTE" in the
subject line. 

    If the vote is a no vote then please have "NO-VOTE" in the subject
line.

    This is to make my life a lot easier so that my mail program can
properly process the votes. All I am asking for is that the subject lines
follow this pattern. 
    There will be a 2nd CFV and a mass Ack posted on December 27th, please
don't expect individual acknowlegements of your votes as I do not have the
time or the shell scripts to do so.

    PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR VOTES TO THE NET. Any votes done in this manner
will not be counted. Only the last vote of a voter will be counted.


Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases
Status: Unmoderated
Charter:
    The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of
database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers.
Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to
comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly
applications they are development environments similar in scope to
Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems
for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex
relational/multi-user system.


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"Anand Rao, Dept. Animal & Food Science" <Anand.Rao@uwrf.edu>
"Bonnie J. Black" <admn@midway.uchicago.edu>
"Brian Excarnate" <aslakson@cs.umn.edu>
"JOHN, (714)896-1393,A95/17-4A48"<uunet!SSDVAX.MDCBBS.COM!LAUGER@Dartmouth.EDU>
"Jim Golden" <jim_golden@qmbridge.calstate.edu>
"Lawrence Reed Miller" <lrm3@midway.uchicago.edu>
"Robert (Bob) Ruf" <RUF@admin1.usask.ca>
"Zach Kessin" <zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
"eric john weidl" <ejw1@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Alan Coopersmith <alanc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Allan Udy <ALLAN@otago.ac.nz>
Andreas Magnusson <c89andma@und.ida.liu.se>
Andrew Dent <dent@DIALix.oz.au>
Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@lise.unit.no>
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org>
Daniel Arkin <darkin@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu>
EHPittman <6063382%PUCC.bitnet@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU>
Ellen Brewer <ebrewer@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Geoffrey.Maugham@p0.f716.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Geoffrey Maugham)
Hans Peder Jepsen <jeps@imada.ou.dk>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
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Jaakko S Wallenius <jsw@lesti.hut.fi>
Jaakko Siuko <aku@vipunen.hut.fi>
Jeff@digtype.rochester.ny.us (Jeff Wasilko)
Jim Gaynor <gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
John G Dobnick <jgd@convex.csd.uwm.edu>
Juergen Schroth <juergen@nadia.stgt.sub.org>
L L Campbell <campbell@brahms.udel.edu>
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Linda Schlipper <lschlip@smiley.mitre.org>
Mark.McIntosh@engr.UVic.CA
Mark_Sherman@transarc.com
Matthias Butt <mbut0135@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
Michael Vogt <vogt@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
PEFV702@PERV.PE.UTEXAS.EDU
Peter J Gergely <gergely@cs.dal.ca>
Phaedrus <phaedrus@milton.u.washington.edu>
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
Povl Hessellund Pedersen <pope@daimi.aau.dk>
R.S.LITTLE <randolph.little@att.com>
ROB DEWHIRST <DEWHIRST@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Robert Park <park@unixg.ubc.ca>
Ron.Haines@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU
Sami Hero <t36269v@saha.hut.fi>
Shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Tom Dubinski <tdubins@silver.cs.UManitoba.CA>
Tron <cyf37941@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Zahir Parpia <zahir@eecg.toronto.edu>
alcoff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Samuel Alcoff)
alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
anamaria@garnet.berkeley.edu (Peter Rauch)
aplumb@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Happy Hacker )
aubourg@lalux5.in2p3.fr (Eric Aubourg)
boomrang!dak@mips.com (David A. Kearney)
brkirby@mailbox.syr.edu (Kirby)
canada@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Curt Canada)
canrem!krzysztof.adamski (Krzysztof Adamski)
cca@pdsf.ssc.gov (charles allen)
cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney)
cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill)
cutler!michael@CS.ORST.EDU
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
d90-two@nada.kth.se
daniel@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (daniel quoidbach)
dbase!cy@rutgers.edu (Cy Shuster)
derwin@mach2.wlu.ca (Daryl Erwin)
dhtucker@digi.lonestar.org (Doug Tucker)
djensen@claven.idbsu.edu
dks@Athena.MIT.EDU
dl1@ukc.ac.uk
dlc@ais.org (David Claytor)
dlong@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
ed@msb.com (Ed Maldonado)
edsr!bigdaddy!cdm@uunet.UU.NET (Clifford D. Morrison)
ennui@trauma.com (N is for Neville who died of ennui)
ericd@caticsuf.CSUFresno.EDU (Eric W. Douglas)
face@arizona.edu (Chris Janton)
flowers@csrd.uiuc.edu (Craig Flowers)
fpillet@frmug.fr.mugnet.org (Florent Pillet)
gandhi3@husc.harvard.edu
gbs@stratus.swdc.stratus.com (George B. Smith)
geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
georg@deerwood.zigzag.hanse.de (Georg Rehfeld)
greibach@CS.UCLA.EDU (Dr Sheila Greibach)
haijo@cs.rug.nl (H. Schipper)
haynes@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Carl W. Haynes III)
irwin@galton.uchicago.edu (Mark Irwin)
itkin@mrspoc.transact.com (Steven List)
jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
jgp@loop.ausom.oz.au (Jeff Pamplin)
jlha@se.alcbel.be (Jaime Lopez Hartmann)
josh@Athena.MIT.EDU
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
krr@msc.edu (Kurt Richards)
louie@granite.ma30.bull.com (Daniel Y. Louie)
magnuson@UNIXHUB.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Bruce D. Magnuson)
marcus@cs.uwa.oz.au (Marcus Jager)
maw5506@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.A. Weissman)
melliott@imsa.edu (Matt Elliott)
memphis-tn@uiuc.edu (Memphis_TN)
mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael L Barrow)
mlw@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Martha L. Wilson)
mmuegel@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Michael S. Muegel)
mward@netcom.com (Michael Ward)
newave!john (John A. Weeks III)
orpheus@reed.edu (P. Hawthorne)
paulr@email.sp.unisys.com (Paul Raulerson)
penjones@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Penelope A. Jones)
peter@cs.uwa.oz.au (Peter Dodd)
peters@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brooks Peters)
peturp@rhi.hi.is
ralph@mtunp.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
rbrink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Rick Brink)
rich9256@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (devin n richards)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robichau@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
rreid@isis.cs.du.edu (Mr. Robin R. Reid)
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sigurd@ii.uib.no (Sigurd Meldal)
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Subject: RESULT:  comp.sys.mac.databases passes 167: 23
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    The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.databases passes with 167 Yes votes
and 23 No votes. The charter is included below for the group along
with the final ACK of Yes votes and No votes.


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Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases
Status: Unmoderated
Charter:
    The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of
database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers.
Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to
comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly
applications they are development environments similar in scope to
Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems
for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex
relational/multi-user system.

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NO VOTES

"Kenton A. Hoover" <shibumi@turbo.bio.net>
Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@lise.unit.no>
Bob Funchess <bobf@ibm530.chem.umr.edu>
Dan Fain <faindan@u.washington.edu>
Edward John Sabol <es2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
John G Dobnick <jgd@convex.csd.uwm.edu>
Mark_Sherman@transarc.com
canrem!krzysztof.adamski (Krzysztof Adamski)
cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney)
cje@goclenius.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
cutler!michael@CS.ORST.EDU
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
derwin@mach2.wlu.ca (Daryl Erwin)
ed@msb.com (Ed Maldonado)
eggert@bi.twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
memphis-tn@uiuc.edu (Memphis_TN)
sigurd@ii.uib.no (Sigurd Meldal)
tekbspa!anton@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Anton)
uunet!quasar.informix.com!aland@Dartmouth.EDU (Alan Denney)
uunet!vpnet.chi.il.us!mox@Dartmouth.EDU (William Moxley)
uunet!watmath!wynnds.xenitec.on.ca!timk@Dartmouth.EDU (Tim Kuehn)


*****************
YES VOTES

"Anand Rao, Dept. Animal & Food Science" <Anand.Rao@uwrf.edu>
"Bonnie J. Black" <admn@midway.uchicago.edu>
"Brian Excarnate" <aslakson@cs.umn.edu>
"JOHN,(714)896-1393,A95/17-4A48" <uunet!SSDVAX.MDCBBS.COM!LAUGER@Dartmouth.EDU>
"Jim Golden" <jim_golden@qmbridge.calstate.edu>
"Lawrence Reed Miller" <lrm3@midway.uchicago.edu>
"Phil Shapiro" <phils@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
"RYAN SEAN P" <FSSPR@acad2.alaska.edu>
"Robert (Bob) Ruf" <RUF@admin1.usask.ca>
"Tim Streater (415) 926-2743" <STREATER%SLACVM.bitnet@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU>
"Virgil W. Smaltz" <DAC013@MARSHALL.MU.WVNET.EDU>
"Zach Kessin" <zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
"eric john weidl" <ejw1@midway.uchicago.edu>
"peter maitland bell" <pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu>
2FOZGREAT@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
2FPCWAGER@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
A. Lani Teshima  <teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
Alan Coopersmith <alanc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Allan Udy <ALLAN@otago.ac.nz>
Andreas Magnusson <c89andma@und.ida.liu.se>
Andrew Dent <dent@DIALix.oz.au>
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Bill Innanen <wgi@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>
Charles Sederholm <cts@hutcs.cs.hut.fi>
Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org>
Christopher Landers <landers@vulcan.mgmt.purdue.edu>
Dana E. Keil <dana@are.Berkeley.EDU>
Daniel Arkin <darkin@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu>
EHPittman <6063382%PUCC.bitnet@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU>
Ellen Brewer <ebrewer@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Geoffrey.Maugham@p0.f716.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Geoffrey Maugham)
Hans Peder Jepsen <jeps@imada.ou.dk>
JAYMS%CUNYVM.bitnet@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU
Jaakko S Wallenius <jsw@lesti.hut.fi>
Jaakko Siuko <aku@vipunen.hut.fi>
Jack Slingerland <jacks@pogo.wv.tek.com>
Jeff@digtype.rochester.ny.us (Jeff Wasilko)
Jim Gaynor <gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Jo Lejeune <lejeune%licr.ucl.ac.be@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU>
John Fairbairn <J.Fairbairn@sec.gu.edu.au>
Juergen Schroth <juergen@nadia.stgt.sub.org>
L L Campbell <campbell@brahms.udel.edu>
LONETTO@psl.Wisc.EDU
Linda Cornell <lcornell@u.washington.edu>
Linda Schlipper <lschlip@smiley.mitre.org>
Mark.McIntosh@engr.UVic.CA
Matthias Butt <mbut0135@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
Maurice Weitman <mo@well.sf.ca.us>
Michael Vogt <vogt@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
Mika Thynell <mthynell@vipunen.hut.fi>
PACER%AM%UCUC@PMDF.UC.EDU
PEFV702@PERV.PE.UTEXAS.EDU
Peter J Gergely <gergely@cs.dal.ca>
Phaedrus <phaedrus@milton.u.washington.edu>
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
Povl Hessellund Pedersen <pope@daimi.aau.dk>
R.S.LITTLE <randolph.little@att.com>
ROB DEWHIRST <DEWHIRST@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Ragnar Normann <ragnarn@ifi.uio.no>
Robert Park <park@unixg.ubc.ca>
Ron.Haines@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU
Sami Hero <t36269v@saha.hut.fi>
Shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Stu Galley <galley@Think.COM>
Tom Dubinski <tdubins@silver.cs.UManitoba.CA>
Tron <cyf37941@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Zahir Parpia <zahir@eecg.toronto.edu>
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djensen@claven.idbsu.edu
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gandhi3@husc.harvard.edu
gbs@stratus.swdc.stratus.com (George B. Smith)
geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
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haijo@cs.rug.nl (H. Schipper)
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irwin@galton.uchicago.edu (Mark Irwin)
itkin@mrspoc.transact.com (Steven List)
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jgp@loop.ausom.oz.au (Jeff Pamplin)
jlha@se.alcbel.be (Jaime Lopez Hartmann)
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kenigson@cs.utk.edu
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melliott@imsa.edu (Matt Elliott)
mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael L Barrow)
mlw@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Martha L. Wilson)
mmuegel@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Michael S. Muegel)
mward@netcom.com (Michael Ward)
newave!john (John A. Weeks III)
orpheus@reed.edu (P. Hawthorne)
paulr@email.sp.unisys.com (Paul Raulerson)
pearcb@hhcs.gov.au
penjones@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Penelope A. Jones)
peter@cs.uwa.oz.au (Peter Dodd)
peters@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brooks Peters)
peturp@rhi.hi.is
ralph@mtunp.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
rbrink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Rick Brink)
research@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mike Leavitt)
rich9256@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (devin n richards)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robichau@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
rreid@isis.cs.du.edu (Mr. Robin R. Reid)
rsfinn@concerto.lcs.mit.edu (Russell S. Finn)
rsp@gw.wmich.edu (WMU RESEARCH & SPONSORED PROGRAMS)
ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman)
sayle@ucs.ubc.ca
srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
steele@vlsi.cs.caltech.edu (Craig Steele)
steve@pinet.aip.org (Steve Lushing)
taylord@ecn.purdue.edu (David G Taylor)
tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter)
thisted@galton.uchicago.edu
tichelen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
toml@voodoo.boeing.com (Tom Locke)
triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos)
unhtel!paul@senex.unh.edu (Paul S. Sawyer)
vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
vk4kt@solwarra.gbrmpa.gov.au (Wayne Amisano)
wbrown@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown)
whenry@lindy.Stanford.EDU (homo obsolescensis)

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