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From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 10:23:46 1993
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From: David Wright <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.misc,comp.sys.misc
Subject: CALL FOR VOTES: comp.sys.unisys
Date: Sun,  6 Jan 91 23:54:06 PST
Reply-To: [email protected]
Followup-to: news.groups
Organization: STC Technology Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, UK
Keywords: posted


Charter:
	Comp.sys.unisys is intended for discussion of systems sold
	under the "Unisys" name, including former Sperry, Burroughs,
	and Convergent Technologies machines.  Unisys software such as
        Mapper is also welcome.  Most of the discussion of relabelled
        third-party UNIX equipment such as the Convergent Technologies
        386 PC-clone based boxes or the Arix and Sequent minis would be
        expected to go on in comp.unix or comp.sys.sequent.

The newsgroup will be unmoderated.

Voting Period

The voting period starts when this is posted and lasts for 28 days.
Votes received after 24:00 GMT on Sunday 3rd February will not be counted.

How to vote

Vote by sending mail to [email protected], with the word YES or NO
(case immaterial) in the subject line.  If you use rn or a similar news
reader, you can use r (reply), add YES or NO to the Subject line, and mail.
Then your vote would appear as one of the following:
Subject: Re: CALL FOR VOTES: comp.sys.unisys YES
Subject: Re: CALL FOR VOTES: comp.sys.unisys NO

Votes which do not contain yes or no in the Subject line, or which are sent
to me instead of 'votes', will cause me extra work but will still be counted
if unambiguous.  Ambiguous votes and any posted votes will not be counted.

If your mailer will not accept mail to the above address try
votes%[email protected] or ...uunet!mcsun!stl!votes
You could even send me X.400 mail at the address given in my signature.

Votes will be acknowledged by mail, but any acknowledgement that bounces
will not be re-tried.  However I will also acknowledge by a mass posting
to news.groups.  The final vote tally will be posted at the end of the
vote, including a list showing how everyone voted.

Credit where it's due department

Peter da Silva supplied the group charter shown above.  This particular
discussion on having a Unisys group was started by Craig Wilson.

Vote Taker's credentials

I have no personal interest in whether there is a Unisys group or not - I
don't work for, sell or even use any Unisys systems.   I volunteered to take
the vote because Craig didn't want to, and I had objected to alt.unisys on
the grounds that it should really go for voting as comp.sys.unisys rather
than become an alt group just because nobody could be bothered to carry out
a vote.  Anyway I haven't done one recently :-)

Summary of discussion

The Call for Discussion was posted to news.announce.newgroups a month ago.
At the time I said I'd call the vote in two weeks time unless someone had a
good reason to delay it: I promptly got such a reply citing "Christmas".

As to actual discussion, there has been very little, almost all in favour.
The only question is whether enough people actually want the group:
the vote will settle that.

Regards,    David Wright       STL, London Road, Harlow, Essex  CM17 9NA, UK
[email protected] <or> ...uunet!mcsun!ukc!stl!dww <or> PSI%234237100122::DWW
<or> /g=David/s=Wright/org=STC Technology Ltd/prmd=STC plc/admd=Gold 400/co=GB


From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 10:49:15 1993
Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:891 comp.misc:7582 comp.sys.misc:1369 alt.config:3147
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.misc,comp.sys.misc,alt.config
Path: rpi!tale
From: David Wright <[email protected]>
Subject: VOTE RESULT:  comp.sys.unisys fails 103:9
Followup-To: news.groups,alt.config
Sender: [email protected]
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The results are now in for comp.sys.unisys:     103 YES    9 NO

There were also two entries which didn't state how they wanted to vote, and
four late votes (3 YES, 1 NO); these have not been included in the result. 

Subject to ratification, the vote therefore FAILS by 6 votes,
as there must be a majority of 100 for the group to be created.
The majority must also be >66%, but that was not a problem here (92%).

Unless there have been a significant number of votes lost, or other
irregularities, and these are reported within the next 5 days, the
group will not be created.

A full list of all accepted votes is appended, followed by an analysis
of voting by site.   The "site vote" was 73 : 9, and no site voted both ways.


Comment
-------

The vote suffered by lack of 'mid-term' publicity in news.announce.newgroups
because the moderator was away - the 2nd CFV only went to news.groups,
comp.misc and comp.sys.misc.  How significant this was cannot be known -
probably it would have made a few votes difference.  6?
There was certainly a boost to the voting rate after the second posting.

On the other hand, I did run the vote for 4 weeks (many now run for 3, the
minimum allowed), and of course the original CFV was in n.a.n.  So everyone
who really cared should have known about it. 

None of the NO voters gave any comment on their reasons.   A few YES voters
did, typically that they were users and would benefit from talking to each 
other.  I also received a comment from a Unisys person saying that the group 
would be good both for them and for their users.   A pity it won't happen.

N.B. the comment about the moderator being away isn't a complaint about
Eliot, who did a good job for us all and didn't get many thanks for it -
moderators need a break just like anyone else.   But maybe Dave could
appoint a couple of stand-by's ready for when *he* needs a break?


So what now?
------------

So what now?  Go back to the mailing list?  Post to comp.sys.misc?
Create alt.sys.unisys after all?    I must say that if we do this,
all the vote will have done is delayed that group by 2-3 months.
I must say it because if I don't, someone else will :-) 

If there is now steady Unisys trafic in comp.sys.misc or alt.sys.unisys,
and it keeps up for at least 6 months, then another vote held then might
succeed (votes cannot be repeated in less than 6 months).

Finally - I think it is reflection on the state of the net that a
technical, computer based group like this fails, while all sorts of social,
recreational and political groups can be created with large majorities.
Usenet has ceased to be primarily a technical forum for better understanding
of computer systems, and is now a much more general talking shop.  Whether
this is a good or bad thing is not an issue I'll debate here.


Detail Results by User and by Site
----------------------------------

  NO  votes       (9)
  ---------
Carl Rigney <[email protected]>
Carl S. Gutekunst<[email protected]>
Christopher Bryden <[email protected]>
David Robinson <[email protected]>
Jeff Beadles <[email protected]>
Leonard Peirce <[email protected]>
Nobuya Higgy Higashiyama <[email protected]>
Paul Eggert <[email protected]>
[email protected]


  YES votes       (103)
  ---------
Adam King <[email protected]>
Adrian Godwin <[email protected]>
Alan Beal <[email protected]>
Alan Egan <[email protected]>
Andy Toy <[email protected]>
Anthony DeBoer <[email protected]>
Bengt Larsson <[email protected]ths.lth.se>
Bill Bogstad <[email protected]>
Bill Holman <[email protected]>
Bob Nicol <[email protected]>
Brian Matthews <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Charles Anderson <[email protected]>
Chris Johnson <[email protected]>
Christopher T. Pedro<[email protected]>
Clive Chinery <[email protected]>
Craig S. Wilson<[email protected]>
Dan Boehlke <[email protected]>
Dan Veditz <[email protected]>
Dave Cline <[email protected]>
David S. Cargo<[email protected]>
David Wright <[email protected]>
Dennis Lienke <[email protected]>
Dominic Dunlop <[email protected]>
Donald Phillips <[email protected]>
Duane L. Rezac<[email protected]>
Ed Bacon <[email protected]>
Ed Naratil <[email protected]>
Eric Horner <[email protected]>
Frank Piper <[email protected]>
Gary Greene <[email protected]>
Gil [email protected]@Banyan<[email protected]>
Greg Nault <[email protected]>
Gregg Wolfe <[email protected]>
Gregory G. Woodbury<[email protected]>
Jacob Ellis <[email protected]>
Jeff White <[email protected]>
Jeffery S. Wilson<[email protected]>
Jeffrey Comstock <[email protected]>
Jim Hopkins <[email protected]>
Jim Lovsey, Metro. Ed. Council, (614)221-8005<[email protected]>
Jim Young <[email protected]>
John G Dobnick <[email protected]>
Lance Welch <[email protected]>
Lee Bertagnolli <[email protected]>
Lucinda Siren <[email protected]>
M.V.L. Prasad<[email protected]>
Marek Behr [Aero Eng]<[email protected]>
Mark Adams <[email protected]>
Mark Perew <[email protected]>
Marshall Belland <[email protected]>
Michael Chastain <[email protected]>
Michael Dobson <[email protected]>
Mike Kain <[email protected]>
Mike Wharton <[email protected]>
Miles ONeal <[email protected]>
Mitch Pockrandt <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Otto Tennant <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
Pamela Kannegieter <[email protected]>
Peter da Silva <[email protected]>
Plu festu, uloj<[email protected]>
Pocky 1st AD, OSJA<[email protected]>
Rich Adams <[email protected]>
Richard H. Miller<[email protected]>
Robert J. Granvin<[email protected]>
Scott R. Anderson<[email protected]>
Scott Sheldon Bertilson <[email protected]>
Scott Williamson <[email protected]>
Steven S. Brack<[email protected]>
Theo Heavey <[email protected]>
Thomas B. Clark III<[email protected]>
Thomas Hintz <[email protected]>
Tom Albrecht <[email protected]>
William M. Hawkins<[email protected]>
William Moore <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
burke <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
dick schenke <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

The following site analysis is for interest only: sites do not vote as such.

   YES votes by site (73)                  NO votes by Site (9)
   -----------------                       ----------------
   1 6sceng.uucp                           1 brahms.amd.com
   1 acorn.co.uk                           1 cipc1.dayton.ncr.com
   1 afcsa.af.mil                          1 elroy.jpl.nasa.gov
   1 aisnet.uucp                           1 freezer.it.udel.edu
   1 ansbach-emh1.army.mil                 1 gumby.cc.wmich.edu
   1 athenanet.com                         1 meaddata.com
   1 autodesk.uucp                         1 onion.pdx.com
   1 banyan.banyan.com                     1 pyramid.pyramid.com
   1 blkhole.uucp                          1 twinsun.com
   1 cc.msstate.edu
   1 cellar.uucp
   1 cherry.cray.com
   1 chorus.fr
   1 cmc.com
   1 cnedcu51.bitnet
   1 cogsci.cog.jhu.edu
   1 convex.csd.uwm.edu
   1 cs.fau.edu
   1 cs.umn.edu
   1 cup.portal.com
   1 dbase.a-t.com
   1 dcsc.dla.mil
   1 dixie.com
   1 dvnspc1.uucp
   1 fig.cray.com
   1 gacvx2.gac.edu
   1 gjetor.geac.com
   1 gvlf8.gvl.unisys.com
   1 gvlv3.gvl.unisys.com
   1 hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu
   1 jhereg.osa.com
   1 m1.88open.org
   1 macs.sp.unisys.com
   1 maths.lth.se
   1 mecsys.mps.ohio-state.edu
   1 med.unc.edu
   1 medicus.com
   1 memex.co.uk
   1 micromuse.co.uk
   1 mks.uucp
   1 morningstar.com
   1 msc.edu
   1 mtus5.earn
   1 nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil
   1 nodec.rsvl.unisys.com
   1 ocf.berkeley.edu
   1 ofa123.fidonet.org
   1 pavlov.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu
   1 quest.uucp
   1 rose3.rosemount.com
   1 s1.msi.umn.edu
   1 scifi.uucp
   1 seachg.uucp
   1 sialis.com
   1 src.honeywell.com
   1 stl.stc.co.uk
   1 syacus.acus.oz.au
   1 tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com
   1 tsa.co.uk
   1 vicstoy.uucp
   1 wolves.uucp
   1 zip.convergent.com
   2 sx1100.rsvl.unisys.com
   2 uninor.uucp
   2 unislc.uucp
   2 uunet.uucp
   3 brainiac.mn.org
   4 dvncnms.uucp
   4 dvnspc1.dev.unisys.com
   4 ficc.ferranti.com
   6 com2serv.c2s.mn.org
   6 gotham.rsvl.unisys.com
   6 s5000.rsvl.unisys.com

Regards,    David Wright       STL, London Road, Harlow, Essex  CM17 9NA, UK
[email protected] <or> ...uunet!mcsun!ukc!stl!dww <or> PSI%234237100122::DWW
<or> /g=David/s=Wright/org=STC Technology Ltd/prmd=STC plc/admd=Gold 400/co=GB
-- 
    (setq mail '("[email protected]" "uupsi!rpi!tale" "[email protected]"))

From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:11:06 1995
Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1458 news.groups:33190 alt.sys.unisys:206 comp.unix.misc:2384 comp.misc:10074
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sys.unisys,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc
Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mark H. Weber)
Subject: RFD:  comp.sys.unisys
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: [email protected]
Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu
Organization: Lock #60 on the Schuylkill Canal, Mont Clare, PA, USA
Date: 3 Oct 91 05:02:55 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
Lines: 25
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Newsgroup name:

        comp.sys.unisys

Charter:
	
        An unmoderated group for the discussion of products produced
        by the Unisys Corporation (and its predecessors, such as Sperry,
        Burroughs and Convergent Technologies)

Background:

        A previous attempt for the creation of comp.sys.unisys was made
        last winter (slightly over 6 months ago). The proposal was narrowly
        defeated, by a vote of approximately 125 Yes vs. 30 No. The defeat
        seemed to be largely a result of low voter turnout, primarily due to
        the timing of the vote during a holiday period. Shortly after the
        group was defeated, an alt.sys.unisys group was created, which has
        served as a valuable forum to the limited number of sites which
        receive it. Hopefully this time comp.sys.unisys will receive
        enough votes to allow the creation of a mainstream group.
-- 
Mark H. Weber ( [email protected] )           "Schuylkill" (skool' kill)
 Mont Clare   ( ...!uunet!cbmvax!cgh!lock60!mhw )      is a Dutch word meaning 
  PA  USA     ( ...!psuvax1!burdvax!gvlv2!lock60!mhw )     "hidden river"

From [email protected]kill.Canal.Org Mon Sep 11 22:12:03 1995
Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1509 news.groups:33921 alt.sys.unisys:223 comp.unix.misc:2525 comp.misc:10253
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sys.unisys,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc
Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mark H. Weber)
Subject: 2nd RFD:  comp.sys.unisys
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: [email protected]
Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu
Organization: Lock #60 on the Schuylkill Canal, Mont Clare, PA, USA
Date: 23 Oct 91 12:20:48 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
Lines: 30
Status: RO
X-Status: 

		Second Request For Discussion

Newsgroup name:

        comp.sys.unisys

Charter:
	
        An unmoderated group for the discussion of products produced
        by the Unisys Corporation (and its predecessors, such as Sperry,
        Burroughs and Convergent Technologies)

Background:

        A previous attempt for the creation of comp.sys.unisys was made
        last winter (slightly over 6 months ago). The proposal was narrowly
        defeated, by a vote of approximately 105 Yes vs. 10 No. The defeat
        seemed to be largely a result of low voter turnout, primarily due to
        the timing of the vote during a holiday period. Shortly after the
        group was defeated, an alt.sys.unisys group was created, which has
        served as a valuable forum to the limited number of sites which
        receive it. Hopefully this time comp.sys.unisys will receive
        enough votes to allow the creation of a mainstream group.

	Don't vote yet - look for the Call For Votes (CFV) coming to a
        machine near you next week (after October 27).
-- 
Mark H. Weber ( [email protected] )           "Schuylkill" (skool' kill)
 Mont Clare   ( ...!uunet!cbmvax!cgh!lock60!mhw )      is a Dutch word meaning 
  PA  USA     ( ...!psuvax1!burdvax!gvlv2!lock60!mhw )     "hidden river"

From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:12:32 1995
Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1529 news.groups:34565 alt.sys.unisys:229 comp.unix.misc:2581 comp.misc:10316 comp.sys.sequent:1096
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sys.unisys,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.sequent
Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Vote Taker)
Subject: CFV:  comp.sys.unisys
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected]
Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu
Organization: Lock #60 on the Schuylkill Canal, Mont Clare, PA, USA
Date: 2 Nov 91 00:51:32 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

                 First Call for Votes
		 --------------------

Newsgroup name:

    comp.sys.unisys

Charter:
	
    An unmoderated group for the discussion of products produced
    by the Unisys Corporation (and its predecessors, such as Sperry,
    Burroughs and Convergent Technologies)

Background:

    A previous attempt for the creation of comp.sys.unisys was made
    last winter (slightly over 6 months ago). The proposal was narrowly
    defeated, by a vote of approximately 105 Yes vs. 10 No. The defeat
    seemed to be largely a result of low voter turnout, primarily due to
    the timing of the vote during a holiday period. Shortly after the
    group was defeated, an alt.sys.unisys group was created, which has
    served as a valuable forum to the limited number of sites which
    receive it. Hopefully this time comp.sys.unisys will receive enough
    votes to allow the creation of a mainstream group. If the mainstream
    group is created, the alt group will be removed.

How to vote:

    Mail (not post) your vote to one of the addresses below. Indicate
    clearly whether you are voting YES or NO either in the subject or
    the body of the message. I'll be counting these by hand, so there's
    no specific format required - just make it clear which way you're
    voting. Here are the addresses:

    internet:
        [email protected]        (the Reply-To: address of this article)

    uucp:
        lock60!unisys

    clueless internet:
        unisys%[email protected] [128.126.220.102]

    pathless uucp:
        uunet!cbmvax!gvlv2!lock60!unisys

Voting period ends November 30, 23:59 UTC.

From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:14:15 1995
Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1586 news.groups:35568 alt.sys.unisys:260 comp.unix.misc:2687 comp.misc:10498 comp.sys.sequent:1130
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sys.unisys,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.sequent
Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Vote Taker)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.sys.unisys
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected]
Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu
Organization: Lock #60 on the Schuylkill Canal, Mont Clare, PA, USA
Date: 21 Nov 91 15:52:14 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

                 Second (and last) Call for Votes
		 --------------------------------

Newsgroup name:

        comp.sys.unisys

Charter:
	
        An unmoderated group for the discussion of products produced
        by the Unisys Corporation (and its predecessors, such as Sperry,
        Burroughs and Convergent Technologies)

Background:

        A previous attempt for the creation of comp.sys.unisys was made
        last winter (slightly over 6 months ago). The proposal was narrowly
        defeated, by a vote of approximately 105 Yes vs. 10 No. The defeat
        seemed to be largely a result of low voter turnout, primarily due to
        the timing of the vote during a holiday period. Shortly after the
        group was defeated, an alt.sys.unisys group was created, which has
        served as a valuable forum to the limited number of sites which
        receive it. Hopefully this time comp.sys.unisys will receive enough
        votes to allow the creation of a mainstream group. If the mainstream
        group is created, the alt group will be removed.

How to vote:

    Mail (not post) your vote to one of the addresses below. Indicate
    clearly whether you are voting YES or NO either in the subject or
    the body of the message. I'll be counting these by hand, so there's
    no specific format required - just make it clear which way you're
    voting. Here are the addresses:

    internet:
        [email protected]        (the Reply-To: address of this article)

    uucp:
        lock60!unisys

    clueless internet:
        unisys%[email protected] [128.126.220.102]

    pathless uucp:
        uunet!cbmvax!gvlv2!lock60!unisys


Voting Period:

   Starts: October 31
   Ends:   November 30


Mass Acknowledgement:

   I have received votes (158 all together) from the following persons:


    "Abbedissen, Kjell R." <[email protected]>
    "BOB FULKERSON" <[email protected]>
    "pwilkins.UK" <[email protected]>
    Al Guetzlaff <[email protected]>
    Ash Nallawalla VK3CIT <[email protected]>
    Balkrishna Ghatwai <[email protected]>
    Bengt Larsson <[email protected]>
    Brendan Kehoe <[email protected]>
    Brian Sassone <[email protected]>
    Chris Bertin <[email protected]>
    Chris Flack <[email protected]>
    Clarence Dold <[email protected]>
    Codge <[email protected]>
    David Letcher <[email protected]>
    Derek "b.p.b" Godfrey <[email protected]>
    Dwayne Shows <[email protected]>
    Ed McGuire <[email protected]>
    Eitan Froumine <[email protected]>
    Eric Sieferman <[email protected]>
    Gary J. Allard <gvlv2!cbmvax!uunet!alb6kws!gary>
    Harald Nordgard-Hansen <[email protected]>
    John G Dobnick <[email protected]>
    Jon Caples <[email protected]>
    Ken Weaverling <[email protected]>
    Mark Petersen <[email protected]>
    Michael Newbery <[email protected]>
    PABLO ROJAS HERRERA <PROJAS%[email protected]>
    Paul Bandler <[email protected]>
    Paul Wexelblat <[email protected]>
    Richard McCormack <[email protected]>
    Rob Knauerhase <[email protected]>
    Scott Thurston (ex-zoomie) <[email protected]>
    Steven Widom <[email protected]>
    Thomas P Kelliher <[email protected]>
    W. McDonald Buck <[email protected]>
    scott lurndal <[email protected]>

    [email protected] (Dan Nissen)
    [email protected] (Eric Horner)
    [email protected] (Greg Nault)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Jim Young)
    [email protected] (Al Egan)
    [email protected] (Keith Bierman fpgroup)
    [email protected] (Mark Perew)
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Anthony DeBoer)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Samuel Joseph Pullara)
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Bill Marrs)
    [email protected] (Bob Nicol)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Patrice Bremond-Gregoire)
    [email protected] (Brian Shaft)
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Pamela R. Lies)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Carl Rigney)
    [email protected] (Craig E. Ward)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Thomas D. Keerl)
    [email protected] (Craig S. Wilson)
    [email protected] (The Wandering Pedestal of Angst)
    [email protected] (Sam Daniel)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Dominic Dunlop)
    [email protected] (Don Phillips)
    [email protected] (Ken R. Dye )
    [email protected] (Ed Naratil)
    [email protected] (Eric A Smith)
    [email protected] (Edward Reid)
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (George Lee)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Gregory M Marr)
    [email protected] (Gregory Neil Shapiro)
    [email protected] (George Baltz)
    [email protected] (H. Schipper)
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    [email protected] (Jeff Beadles)
    [email protected] (Jennie Shonka-Koch)
    [email protected] (Otto Tennant)
    [email protected] (Krishna E. Bera)
    [email protected] (Quincey Koziol)
    [email protected] (Stephe.  No V.  No N.)
    [email protected] (Curt Larock)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Anselm Lingnau)
    [email protected] (Mark Linimon)
    llanes%[email protected] (Martel Manalo)
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From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:15:01 1995
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From: [email protected] (Vote Taker)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.sys.unisys passes 199: 10
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The final vote tally for comp.sys.unisys is 199 yes and 10 no. Being
as there are at least 100 more yes's than no's, and more than twice as
many yes's as no's, the vote for comp.sys.unisys meets the guideline rules
for a successful vote. The group will be created after the standard 5 day 
waiting period.

Alt.sys.unisys will be removed approximately 30 days after the creation
of comp.sys.unisys.

Thanks to all who voted:

No: (10)

    Guido Huepper <[email protected]>
    Harald Nordgard-Hansen <[email protected]>
    Jon Ross <[email protected]>
    Rob Knauerhase <[email protected]>
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Carl Rigney)
    [email protected] (Jeff Beadles)
    [email protected] (Quincey Koziol)
    [email protected] (Memphis_TN)
    [email protected] (Steve Rogers)

Yes: (199)

    "Abbedissen, Kjell R." <[email protected]>
    "BOB FULKERSON" <[email protected]>
    "Christopher T. Pedro" <[email protected]>
    "D. Brian Kimmel" <gvlv2!widener!uunet!ars2!briank>
    "Jeffrey T. Hutzelman" <[email protected]>
    "Ted Stockwell" <[email protected]>
    "Todd L. Masco" <[email protected]>
    "pwilkins.UK" <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Dan Nissen)
    [email protected] (Eric Horner)
    [email protected] (Greg Nault)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Jim Young)
    <[email protected]>
    <[email protected]>
    <[email protected]>
    <[email protected]>
    Al Guetzlaff <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Al Egan)
    Allen Strand <[email protected]>
    Ash Nallawalla VK3CIT <[email protected]>
    Balkrishna Ghatwai <[email protected]>
    Bengt Larsson <[email protected]>
    Brendan Kehoe <[email protected]>
    Brian Sassone <[email protected]>
    Chris Bertin <[email protected]>
    Chris Flack <[email protected]>
    Christophe Wolfhugel <[email protected]>
    Clarence Dold <[email protected]>
    Codge <[email protected]>
    Corinne Bruce <[email protected]>
    [email protected]
    Dan Troxel <[email protected]>
    David Letcher <[email protected]>
    Derek "b.p.b" Godfrey <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Don Deal)
    Dwayne Shows <[email protected]>
    Ed McGuire <[email protected]>
    Eitan Froumine <eita[email protected]>
    Eric Sieferman <[email protected]>
    Gary J. Allard <gvlv2!cbmvax!uunet!alb6kws!gary>
    John G Dobnick <[email protected]>
    John Romine <[email protected]>
    Jon Caples <[email protected]>
    Jukka Lahtinen <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Keith Bierman fpgroup)
    Ken Weaverling <[email protected]>
    Lehtonen Ville <[email protected]>
    Luis Blanco <BLANCO%[email protected]>
    Marcus Hayes <[email protected]>
    Mark Addinall <[email protected]>
    Mark Petersen <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Mark Perew)
    Michael Newbery <[email protected]>
    Morten Christensen <[email protected]>
    PABLO ROJAS HERRERA <PROJAS%[email protected]>
    Paul Bandler <[email protected]>
    Paul Wexelblat <[email protected]>
    Pete Gregory <[email protected]>
    Richard McCormack <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Nara Narasimhan)
    [email protected]
    Scott Ford <[email protected]>
    Scott Thurston (ex-zoomie) <[email protected]>
    Steven Widom <[email protected]>
    [email protected]
    Thomas P Kelliher <[email protected]>
    W. McDonald Buck <[email protected]>
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    [email protected] (Adrian Steinmann)
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    [email protected] (Patrice Bremond-Gregoire)
    [email protected] (Brian Shaft)
    [email protected]
    [email protected] (Pamela R. Lies)
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    [email protected] (Craig E. Ward)
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    [email protected] (Thomas D. Keerl)
    [email protected] (Craig S. Wilson)
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    [email protected] (Sam Daniel)
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    [email protected] (Don Phillips)
    [email protected] (Frank Piper)
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    [email protected] (Gary Salamon)
    [email protected] (Jan Isley)
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    [email protected] (George Lee)
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    [email protected] (Gregory M Marr)
    [email protected] (Gregory Neil Shapiro)
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    [email protected] (Joe Schulingkamp)
    [email protected] (Otto Tennant)
    [email protected] (Krishna E. Bera)
    [email protected] (Swift)
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    llanes%[email protected] (Martel Manalo)
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    [email protected] ( ! chucky)
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    [email protected] (Existentialist Man! )
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    [email protected] (News Account 1)
    [email protected] (Luis Herrera)
    [email protected] (Nolasco Mappala)
    [email protected] (Darcia Nurkkala)
    [email protected] (Mike Murphy)
    [email protected] (Joe Keane)
    [email protected] (Paul Raulerson)
    [email protected] (Peter da Silva)
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    [email protected] (Patrick Robinson)
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    [email protected] (Bridget Ingham)
    [email protected] (Matthew E Cross)
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    [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
    [email protected] (Rick Ellis)
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    [email protected] (Rolf Riesen)
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    [email protected] (Sally Kaltman)
    sch.com!RH
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    [email protected] (Peter Schow)
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    [email protected] (Mikael Parknert)
    [email protected] (John Stine)
    [email protected] (Tom Limoncelli)
    [email protected] (Terry Geck)
    [email protected] (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
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    [email protected] (Tom Albrecht)
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    [email protected] (Bill Trost)
    [email protected] (Gary Tse)
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    [email protected] (Walter Kemmerer)
    [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
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