From [email protected] Thu Aug  4 15:38:59 1994
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From: [email protected] (Una Smith)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.environment,bionet.general,bionet.biology.tropical,bionet.agroforestry
Subject: RFD: sci.bio.conservation moderated
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

Proposal to create sci.bio.conservation, moderated.


CHARTER

For broad discussion of conservation biology, including both basic
and applied research, among biologists and interested lay readers.
An important but often difficult aspect of many conservation biology
issues is achieving an adequate level of communication between
professional biologists and the general public.  This newsgroup may
help to fill that gap, but to promote a professional and scholarly
level of discussion, Preston Hardison  will
moderate it.  Preston also runs the CONSBIO mailing list.


JUSTIFICATION

Sci.bio.conservation will be the only newsgroup to cover a very
broad area of applied research in biology, chemistry, geology,
geography, and sociology.  Discussion of conservation biology is 
now found in sci.bio, sci.bio.ecology, and sci.environment, all
of which have high traffic on other topics.  (Sci.environment
should probably be named sci.geo.environment, and moderated.  At 
present, it is very like talk.environment, which is essentially
a forum for environmentalism.  Environmentalism is a political
and social movement, not a field of science.  That part of the
traffic that is not cross-posted to talk.environment would fit
nicely in sci.geo.*.)

In addition, there are several mailing lists on conservation
biology;  it is expected that one of these will wish to add a
gateway to this newsgroup.  All of them are feeling the strain
of growing readership and traffic.


-- 
	Una Smith			[email protected]

Department of Biology, Yale University, New Haven, CT  06520-8104  USA

From [email protected] Wed Sep  7 16:28:51 1994
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From: [email protected] (Una Smith)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.bio.conservation moderated
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This revised RFD for sci.bio.conservation includes a charter based
on the charter of the CONSBIO mailing list.  Sci.bio.conservation
is proposed as moderated, the moderator being Preston Hardison
, the administrator of the CONSBIO mailing
list.  Sci.bio.conservation effectively complements CONSBIO;  these
two forums may establish a gateway at some future time, depending
on the preferences of the readers.


CHARTER for sci.bio.conservation

Sci.bio.conservation is a forum for conservation biologists and
others interested in conservation biology.  The specific goal of
this newsgroup is to help develop the scientific and technical
means for the protection, maintenance, and restoration of life
on this planet, including:

   (1) the promotion of research and the maintenance of the
       highest standards of quality and ethics in research;
   (2) the publication and dissemination of scientific, 
       technical, and management information; 
   (3) the encouragement of communication and collaboration
       between conservation biology and other disciplines
       (including other biological and physical sciences,
       the behavioral and social sciences, economics, law
       and philosophy) that study and advise on conservation
       and natural resource issues; 
   (4) the education, at all levels, of the public, of
       biologists, and of managers, in the principles of
       conservation biology.

Because there are several Usenet newsgroups for discussion of
environmental activism (in particular talk.environment), this
newsgroup will generally not carry such discussions.


NOTE to new readers:  The RFD (request for discussion) is a
step in the formal process used to create new Usenet newsgroups.
Usenet is a complex and powerful grass-roots entity providing
open discussion forums on thousands of topics to millions of
readers.  It is common for large, active mailing lists to have
"gateways" into individual Usenet newsgroups, as Usenet offers
numerous features for easing the task of sifting through many
messages (or "articles").  The next step is the CFV (call for
votes), which should appear within a few weeks (mid September).
The CFV will explain how you may cast your personal vote for
or against this proposal, using e-mail.  Now is the time to
respond to the RFD with any changes to the proposal that you
care to suggest.
-- 
	Una Smith			[email protected]

Department of Biology, Yale University, New Haven, CT  06520-8104  USA

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Oct 12 13:24:04 1994
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Subject: CFV: sci.bio.conservation
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                    unmoderated group sci.bio.conservation

Newsgroups line:
sci.bio.conservation	Conservation biology research. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists:

[email protected]	(Biodiversity Center List)
[email protected]		(Biodiversity Information Network)
[email protected]	(Conservation Biology List)
[email protected] 		(Conservation and Ecology List)
[email protected]	(Ecological Economics List)
[email protected]		(Environment in Latin America List)
[email protected]	(Entomology List)
[email protected]	(Environmental Studies List)
[email protected] 	(UNEP Infoterra)

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Una Smith 


CHARTER

Sci.bio.conservation is a forum for conservation biologists and others
interested in conservation biology.  The specific goal of this
newsgroup is to help develop the scientific and technical means for
the protection, maintenance, and restoration of life on this planet,
including:

   (1) the promotion of research and the maintenance of the
       highest standards of quality and ethics in research;
   (2) the publication and dissemination of scientific, 
       technical, and management information; 
   (3) the encouragement of communication and collaboration
       between conservation biology and other disciplines
       (including other biological and physical sciences,
       the behavioral and social sciences, economics, law
       and philosophy) that study and advise on conservation
       and natural resource issues; 
   (4) the education, at all levels, of the public, of
       biologists, and of managers, in the principles of
       conservation biology.

Because there are several Usenet newsgroups for discussion of
environmental activism (in particular talk.environment), this
newsgroup will generally not carry such discussions.


DETAILS

Preston Hardison, [email protected], will moderate the newsgroup,
[email protected] for the submission address,
[email protected] for the contact address.

Preston runs the CONSBIO mailing list.  Sci.bio.conservation
effectively duplicates and complements CONSBIO; these two forums may
establish a gateway at some future time, depending on the wishes of
the readers on both sides.  For now, they are separate.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.bio.conservation
      I vote NO on sci.bio.conservation

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Oct 26 12:59:35 1994
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Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.bio.conservation
Supersedes: 
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 moderated group sci.bio.conservation

Newsgroups line:
sci.bio.conservation    Conservation biology research. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists:

[email protected]  (Biodiversity Center List)
[email protected]                (Biodiversity Information Network)
[email protected]        (Conservation Biology List)
[email protected]            (Conservation and Ecology List)
[email protected]      (Ecological Economics List)
[email protected]           (Environment in Latin America List)
[email protected]  (Entomology List)
[email protected]       (Environmental Studies List)
[email protected]    (UNEP Infoterra)

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Una Smith 


CHARTER

Sci.bio.conservation is a forum for conservation biologists and others
interested in conservation biology.  The specific goal of this
newsgroup is to help develop the scientific and technical means for
the protection, maintenance, and restoration of life on this planet,
including:

   (1) the promotion of research and the maintenance of the
       highest standards of quality and ethics in research;
   (2) the publication and dissemination of scientific, 
       technical, and management information; 
   (3) the encouragement of communication and collaboration
       between conservation biology and other disciplines
       (including other biological and physical sciences,
       the behavioral and social sciences, economics, law
       and philosophy) that study and advise on conservation
       and natural resource issues; 
   (4) the education, at all levels, of the public, of
       biologists, and of managers, in the principles of
       conservation biology.

Because there are several Usenet newsgroups for discussion of
environmental activism (in particular talk.environment), this
newsgroup will generally not carry such discussions.


DETAILS

Preston Hardison, [email protected], will moderate the newsgroup,
[email protected] for the submission address,
[email protected] for the contact address.

Preston runs the CONSBIO mailing list.  Sci.bio.conservation
effectively duplicates and complements CONSBIO; these two forums may
establish a gateway at some future time, depending on the wishes of
the readers on both sides.  For now, they are separate.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.bio.conservation
      I vote NO on sci.bio.conservation

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



sci.bio.conservation Bounce List - No need to revote
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From [email protected] (RonDippold) Fri Nov  4 15:17:26 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,bit.listserv.biosph-l,sci.environment,sci.geo.oceanography,bionet.general
Subject: RESULT: sci.bio.conservation passes 188:17
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				RESULT
	  moderated group sci.bio.conservation passes 188:17

There were 188 YES votes and 17 NO votes, for a total of 205 valid votes. 
There were 2 abstains and 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
sci.bio.conservation    Conservation biology research. (Moderated)

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Una Smith 


CHARTER

Sci.bio.conservation is a forum for conservation biologists and others
interested in conservation biology.  The specific goal of this
newsgroup is to help develop the scientific and technical means for
the protection, maintenance, and restoration of life on this planet,
including:

   (1) the promotion of research and the maintenance of the
       highest standards of quality and ethics in research;
   (2) the publication and dissemination of scientific, 
       technical, and management information; 
   (3) the encouragement of communication and collaboration
       between conservation biology and other disciplines
       (including other biological and physical sciences,
       the behavioral and social sciences, economics, law
       and philosophy) that study and advise on conservation
       and natural resource issues; 
   (4) the education, at all levels, of the public, of
       biologists, and of managers, in the principles of
       conservation biology.

Because there are several Usenet newsgroups for discussion of
environmental activism (in particular talk.environment), this
newsgroup will generally not carry such discussions.


DETAILS

Preston Hardison, [email protected], will moderate the newsgroup,
[email protected] for the submission address,
[email protected] for the contact address.

Preston runs the CONSBIO mailing list.  Sci.bio.conservation
effectively duplicates and complements CONSBIO; these two forums may
establish a gateway at some future time, depending on the wishes of
the readers on both sides.  For now, they are separate.


sci.bio.conservation Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                        PATRICIA TURLIUK
[email protected]                                          Nigel Allen
[email protected]                              Alexander Herr -Herry
[email protected]                                    Alfred Thieme III
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                    Audrey Mayer (a.k.a. Dot's Pet)
[email protected]                                           ASHRAF M.NAGEIB
[email protected]                                          Andrew Taylor
[email protected]                                      Angelo Ripepi
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                           Bruce Hamilton
[email protected]                                                    
[email protected]                                           Dean Barbo
[email protected]                                    Brenda Edmands
[email protected]                               Benton Kealii Pang
[email protected]                                            Duncan Mackay
[email protected]                                           Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                           Chris Boake
[email protected]                                                  Mike Bonham
[email protected]                                    BOONE JOHN DAYTON
[email protected]                                           Brian Drayton
[email protected]                                                
[email protected]                                            Eric C. Carlson
[email protected]                                         Timothy W Kaufmann
[email protected]                                    Diane Barlow Close
[email protected]                                                     Dean Cluff
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                          Charlie Spillane
[email protected]                                  Craig Van de Water Lewis
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                                   Peter Campbell
[email protected]                                              David B Sasse
[email protected]                                                 
[email protected]                                                   Heather Deal
[email protected]                                              Dean Alaska
[email protected]                                     Duncan C. Elkins
[email protected]                                    Don McKenzie
[email protected]                  Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be
[email protected]                                   Stephanie Stanfield
[email protected]                                               Tom Duralia
[email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch
[email protected]                                       Eduardo Almeida Miranda
[email protected]                                              A. A. Cayer
[email protected]                                         Ecology Center
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                  Julie K. Stahlhut
[email protected]                                                  
[email protected]                                                ENNEAD
[email protected]                                             Eugene N. Miya
[email protected]                                          Janette Wallis
[email protected]                               Mike Facchini (UMass)
[email protected]                                               Pete Farley
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                              Linda A. Floyd-Kvalheim
[email protected]                                    Gordon Claridge
[email protected]                                           Paul Geissler
[email protected]                                     lewis gilbert
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                      George R. Robinson
[email protected]                                    Gregory T Schildwachter
[email protected]                                              Lepi maniac
[email protected]                                           Kim Hastings
[email protected]                                     Heather Dundas
[email protected]                                   Steven G. Herman
[email protected]                                          Henning Holtschneider
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                               Ray R. Hinchman
[email protected]                                Helene Muller-Landau
[email protected]                                                    Guy Hoelzer
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                    Richard F. Ambrose
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                                 Jim Manhart
[email protected]                                            Jeanette Bider
[email protected]                                        Jacoby Carter
[email protected]                                          James T Castellow Jr
[email protected]                         J.D. Almand DOAS Telcom
[email protected]                                              Jemery
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                                Jane Kauer
[email protected]                                       Johan Kritzinger
[email protected]                               Joshua C. Lerner
[email protected]                                  Jonathan Parkinson
[email protected]                                       Jennifer Man-Ling Wang
[email protected]                                                Jennifer Powell
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                              J.Schulz-Rojahn
[email protected]                                  Joseph L Staton
[email protected]                                    Kevin Hodgkinson
[email protected]                                         Henry King
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                               Norbert Kraeuchi
[email protected]                                          Jack Kramer
[email protected]                                       Karen Kreutzer
[email protected]                                           Kron Aken
[email protected]                                                
[email protected]                             Margaret A. Kuchenreuther
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                         Lachlan Cranswick
[email protected]                                            Keith Landa
[email protected]                                           Larry Talley
[email protected]                                         Bob Larson
[email protected]                                            n.m. lister
[email protected]                                        Jon A. Stallins
[email protected]                                                   Laura
[email protected]                                            Larry London
[email protected]                                L. R. Leeper
[email protected]                                                Mark Andersen
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                                                 
[email protected]                                           martin coghlan
[email protected]                                               Colin Tan
[email protected]                                                Michiel van Loon
[email protected]                                       moredechi galdmbo
[email protected]                                        Mette H. H. Hansen
[email protected]                                     Mike Kearsley
[email protected]                                             Terry Morse
[email protected]                                            MR M RAMSEY
[email protected]                             Michael Sattler, San Francisco
[email protected]                                                    Bernhard Muenzer
[email protected]                                                           Neal
[email protected]                                                           
[email protected]                                         Neil Griffin
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                               Neil Parker
[email protected]                                                   Todd Ourston
[email protected]                                                 Mark Gahler
[email protected]                                                   phil reed
[email protected]                                           Hallam.Payne
[email protected]                                                  Peter Philip
[email protected]                                            Philip Gbur (DSSD)
[email protected]                                                Philip Wong
[email protected]                                        Thomas Philippi
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                              Peter Ryan
[email protected]                              Paul S Gardner
[email protected]                                         Mike Brennan
[email protected]                                            R. Gregory
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                   Rene Borgella Jr.
[email protected]                                                 Robert Barber
[email protected]                                              Richard Hill
[email protected]                                                 Rich Puchalsky
[email protected]                                             Roger Latham
[email protected]                                       Roland Limpert
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                               Rob Blomquist
[email protected]                                      Robert Blair
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                        Robert Parson
[email protected]                                             Stefan Hames
[email protected]                                               Ray Lanier
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                            Paul Schwarz
[email protected]                                            CHEN MEI JUN
[email protected]                                           Wong Tze Chin
[email protected]                                             Susan Farmer
[email protected]                                           Polymer
[email protected]                                         Rebecca Sobol
[email protected]                                           Stephen A Pluher
[email protected]                                            Stein Olsen
[email protected]                                        Stephan Blaschke
[email protected]                                               Steve Cumming
[email protected]                                               David Reeve Sward
[email protected]                                                 Shane Castle
[email protected]                                        Stephen W. Schaeffer
[email protected]                                           Peter Taylor
[email protected]                                                   Tony Curtis
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                Beth Conklin
[email protected]                                              Tim Rayner
[email protected]                                              Ellen I. Paul
[email protected]                                           Tromp John
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                        Una Smith
[email protected]                                        Ashwani Vasishth
[email protected]                                        Wally Garchow
[email protected]                                   Warren L. Kovach
[email protected]                                           Niklas Wikstrom
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                                           
[email protected]                                       Zhenmin, Lu

Voted No
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[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                              
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                              carl e snook
[email protected]                                      Dwight Dieterle
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                          Julian Macassey
[email protected]                                                      Larry Smith
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                          Sten Drescher
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                             Paul Brandt
[email protected]                                           William A Perry

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                             Per Stromfors


Votes in error
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