From [email protected] Sat May 13 00:03:35 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Randy & Marianne)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.programming,comp.ai.games,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,rec.games.programmer
Subject: RFD: comp.programming.contests
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 12 May 1995 15:21:55 -0400
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              unmoderated group comp.programming.contests

Summary        : Announcements, discussion and results of programming contests.
Proponent      : Randy Saint 

This is a formal request for discussion on the creation of an
unmoderated newsgroup, comp.programming.contests.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for
Newsgroup Creation. This RFD is being posted to the following relevant
newsgroups:

   news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.programming,
   rec.games.programmer, comp.os.msdos.programmer,
   comp.sys.amiga.programmer, comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,
   comp.unix.programmer, comp.ai.games.

The RFD and/or CFV may be posted to related mailing lists.
Discussion will take place in news.groups only.   Please post
follow-ups to news.groups only.

This is not a call for votes.  Please don't vote now.

                               CHARTER

The purpose of this newsgroup is a central location to post
announcements, discussion, and results of programming contests.

                                   
                              RATIONALE

At the moment there is not one specific group where people can
go to find out information about programming contests.  Currently,
programmers must scan several different groups looking for posts
announcing contests.

Also, traditionally organizers of contests must create mailing
lists for each contest.  Then, each programmer's mailbox is
flooded with conversation about the contest.

This would also be an area to post results of programming contests.

                              PROCEDURE

After a discussion period of 30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the formation of the group, a CFV will be posted to the
same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be as outlined in the
guidelines (21-31 days).  If the vote passes by a majority of 2/3, and
there are 100 more yes votes than no votes, then the group will be created.
-- 
Randy Saint
[email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Jun 21 01:16:34 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Kenneth Herron)
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Subject: CFV: comp.programming.contests
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Date: 21 Jun 1995 01:12:06 -0400
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group comp.programming.contests

Newsgroups line:
comp.programming.contests	Announcements & results of programming contests

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 12 July 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact [email protected].  For questions about the proposed
group contact Randy Saint, .

CHARTER

The purpose of this newsgroup is a central location to post announcements,
discussion, and results of programming contests.  This group is intended
for contests where the entrants write software, not WWW net hunts or logo
design contests.


RATIONALE

This will provide a central group where programmers can go to find
announcements of upcoming contests, discussion of specific contests and
programming contests in general, and results of past contests.  This will
also alleviate contest organizers from having to create separate mailing
lists for every contest held.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.programming.contests
      I vote NO on comp.programming.contests

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] Tue Jul 11 13:27:04 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Kenneth Herron)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.programming,comp.ai.games,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,rec.games.programmer
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.programming.contests
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 10 Jul 1995 18:15:40 -0400
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Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7101 news.groups:158570 comp.programming:17861 comp.ai.games:1812 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:7844 comp.unix.programmer:32456 comp.os.msdos.programmer:59845 comp.sys.amiga.programmer:72586 rec.games.programmer:63194

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group comp.programming.contests

Newsgroups line:
comp.programming.contests       Announcements & results of programming contests

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 12 July 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact [email protected].  For questions about the proposed
group contact Randy Saint, .

CHARTER

The purpose of this newsgroup is a central location to post announcements,
discussion, and results of programming contests.  This group is intended
for contests where the entrants write software, not WWW net hunts or logo
design contests.


RATIONALE

This will provide a central group where programmers can go to find
announcements of upcoming contests, discussion of specific contests and
programming contests in general, and results of past contests.  This will
also alleviate contest organizers from having to create separate mailing
lists for every contest held.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.programming.contests
      I vote NO on comp.programming.contests

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.


comp.programming.contests Bounce List - No need to revote
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No bounced acks at this time


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                         Wayne Sheppard
   ! No vote statement in message

From [email protected] Mon Jul 24 18:08:49 1995
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Kenneth Herron)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.programming,comp.ai.games,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,rec.games.programmer
Subject: RESULT: comp.programming.contests passes 212:30
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 19 Jul 1995 18:51:15 -0400
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                                RESULT
          unmoderated group comp.programming.contests passes 213:30

comp.programming.contests results - 243 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 213   30 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.programming.contests
   1 abstaining vote  and 2 invalid votes

Newsgroups line:
comp.programming.contests	Announcements & results of programming contests

Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 12 July 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact [email protected].  For questions about the proposed
group contact Randy Saint, .

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroups shortly
thereafter.


CHARTER

The purpose of this newsgroup is a central location to post announcements,
discussion, and results of programming contests.  This group is intended
for contests where the entrants write software, not WWW net hunts or logo
design contests.


comp.programming.contests Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                           Lucas Purcell
[email protected]                                                     Rod
[email protected]                                           Fred Crouse
[email protected]                                     Mean Green Dancing Machine
[email protected]                                                    Jerome Abela
[email protected]                                           Jonathan Adair
[email protected]                                           Alex Portnoy
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar
[email protected]                                            Jonathan Crawford
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                                 Andre van Wyk
[email protected]                                                 Barry Nathan
[email protected]                                            Ben Carter
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                               Anjayan Puvananathan
[email protected]                                      Blair Zajac
[email protected]                                                   Blanche Cohen
[email protected]                                           Brian Bulkowski
[email protected]                                                   Uri Bruck
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                             BOUZY Bruno 42.21.93.74
[email protected]                                      Nige Leslie
[email protected]               Curtis "Chewbacca" Desjardins
[email protected]                                           john selbie
[email protected]                                              Schnood
[email protected]                                Chris Rovers
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     Chatchai JANTARAPRIM
[email protected]                                        chris mcdonald
[email protected]                                 Christopher Sawtell
[email protected]                                         Lee Chun Kwok
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                                Colyn Brown
[email protected]                                  Jean-marie Common
[email protected]                                              Conor Ryan
[email protected]                                         Corin Anderson
[email protected]                                       Bob Cowling
[email protected]                                          Mike Crawford
[email protected]                                                       Mr. Cronk
[email protected]                                                       B.Attah
[email protected]                                             Dave Beckett
[email protected]                                               Dick Rinewalt
[email protected]                                           David A. Hernandez
[email protected]
[email protected]                              Derrik Walker v2.0
[email protected]                                           David Houston
[email protected]                                 Mihalis Tsoukalos
[email protected]                                              Dirk Dierckx
[email protected]                                               Dennis W. Disney
[email protected]                             Douglas Petican
[email protected]                                             TOOGOOD MICHAEL D
[email protected]                                           George Doster
[email protected]                                        Matthew Douglass
[email protected]                                            Daniel S Chen
[email protected]                                                Dan the Man
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[email protected]                                                 Kim Laurio
[email protected]                                                  eric fortier
[email protected]                                          Brennan Underwood
[email protected]                                                     Eric Engelmann
[email protected]                                       Mr P A Horsfield
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                         Shaun Flisakowski
[email protected]                                             Jerry Franke
[email protected]                                               Scott Elmer
[email protected]                                             Gavan Schneider
[email protected]                                           David Gerard
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                    Kiran Wagle
[email protected]                                         Hakan Tandogan
[email protected]                                              Ed Hanway
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Franco Catrin
[email protected]                                         Hugo van der Sanden
[email protected]                                        Van Deun Dirk
[email protected]                                Ian Goldberg
[email protected]                                                    Dancing Fool
[email protected]                                                   Jay Hennessey
[email protected]                                                  Joel B Levin
[email protected]                                          Jeffrey C. Ollie
[email protected]                                        Jeffrey Posnick
[email protected]                                        Joerg Harm
[email protected]                                              J Hulley-Miller
[email protected]                                                 Jay Hofacker
[email protected]                                             Jason D Howat
[email protected]
[email protected]                                          Joseph C. King
[email protected]                                              Joseph Kwiatkowski
[email protected]                                       Jean-Luc Lachance
[email protected]                                             Jay Coskey
[email protected]                                                   james sevier
John_Marshall/PEC/[email protected]                 John Marshall/PEC/NZ
[email protected]                                 James Ojaste
[email protected]                                              Jouni Miettunen
[email protected]                               Josef Radinger (WINVN)
[email protected]                                        Sudish Joseph
[email protected]                                             John Barry Reah
[email protected]                                            Jesper Riemer
[email protected]                                         Joseph R. Justice
[email protected]                                     Jesper Rugerd Jensen
[email protected]                                                    John Rickard
[email protected]                                         John Todd Sankey
[email protected]                                    James Irl Waldby
[email protected]                                             Jason Willoughby
[email protected]                                     Jeannette Lombardozzi
[email protected]                                                  Kevin Baca
[email protected]                                             Ken Chick
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[email protected]                                             Kip DeGraaf
[email protected]                                           Kevin Schnitzius
[email protected]                                                Andrew Ky
[email protected]                                        Lantz Rowland
[email protected]                                       Laurie White
[email protected]                                                     Lars C. Hassing
[email protected]                                          Lee M. Witek
[email protected]              Frederic Lepied [STERIA SIT] 69577103
[email protected]                                  Britta Lerch
[email protected]                                         Claus Leth Gregersen
[email protected]                                            Lex Weaver
[email protected]                                     Liebenberg and Stander
[email protected]                                  Martin Schr"oder
[email protected]                                      Lodewijk Voge
[email protected]                               Martin von Loewis
[email protected]                                      Luciano Mannucci
[email protected]                                    M.F.Offermans
[email protected]                                                       David Mah
[email protected]                                           Mark Switser
[email protected]                                                  Mark C. Orton
[email protected]                                              Martin de Jong
[email protected]                                         Lech Mazur
[email protected]                                                       Harf
[email protected]                                   Scott McClung
[email protected]                                                Matt DiMeo
[email protected]                                             Mitchell E. Timin
[email protected]                                           Markus Freericks
[email protected]                                    Michael J. Averbuch
[email protected]                                    Timothy Miller
[email protected]                                                  Mitch Davis
[email protected]                                               Michael J. Reeves
[email protected]                             Michael Sattler, San Francisco
[email protected]                                             Matthew Skala
[email protected]                                          Murugavel
[email protected]                              Nikita Borisov
[email protected]                                                     Riso Nemec
[email protected]                           North Haven High School
[email protected]                                                          nick.c
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
[email protected]                                                Olafur Gudmundsson
[email protected]                                           Paul Franklin
[email protected]                                          Boris Pavacic
[email protected]                                            Petteri Kangaslampi
[email protected]                                                      Frants P
[email protected]                                             Patrik Johansson
[email protected]
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                           Raphael Quinet
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                        Ron E.
[email protected]                                                    RickDubbs
[email protected]                                      Rob Leitman
[email protected]                                      Rob Creager x2365
[email protected]                                                   Robertino Benis
[email protected]                                    Eric Rolfe
[email protected]                                              Rod Ramsey
[email protected]                                             Robert Smits
[email protected]                                          R. Gregory Stockton
[email protected]                                  Matthias Ruhl
[email protected]                      Russell Schulz
[email protected]                                          Randy Saint
[email protected]                                                            Sam Yee
[email protected]                                                   Scott A Valcourt
[email protected]                                             Steven C. Dollins
[email protected]                              Marco Schmidt
[email protected]                                      Seth Golub
[email protected]                                              Stephen Hoder
[email protected]                                        Daniele Terdina
[email protected]                                                   Jeff Mitchell
[email protected]                                 Lawrence Smithmier, Jr.
[email protected]                                Surendra Pothuru
[email protected]                               Christopher Muir
[email protected]                                   Stephen Davis
[email protected]                                   Steven L. Baur
[email protected]                                           Steve Kay
[email protected]                                            Steve Silberberg
[email protected]                                      Steve J Brown
[email protected]                                        Steve Weiss
[email protected]                                                   Stig Hemmer
[email protected]                                                   Tony Basoglu
[email protected]                                         Martin Michlmayr
[email protected]                                                 Coralie J. Allen
[email protected]                                                     Tom Conder
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                            T Ruhl
[email protected]                                                   Timothy D. Prime
[email protected]                                                  Tim Cooper
[email protected]                                            Ted L. Glenn
[email protected]                                           Tom Jaskiewicz
[email protected]                                     Tiago Rodrigues Antao
[email protected]    CAZENAVE Tristan 40.44.62.29 Thesards de Pi
[email protected]                                     Dayle Turner
[email protected]                                                  Robert Simmons
[email protected]                 Satrapa / Alexander Marc (ISE)
[email protected]                                 David Eccleston
[email protected]                                        Vassili Dzuba
[email protected]
[email protected]                      Wolfgang von Hansen
[email protected]                                                 Karl Kleine
[email protected]                                 Viet-Tam Luu
[email protected]                            Anthony William Cannon
[email protected]                                     Wesley Tanaka

Voted No
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[email protected]                                            Andrae Muys
[email protected]                                                        AShub
[email protected]                                           Ed Bailey
[email protected]                                                 Chip Rosenthal
[email protected]                                              Chris Marble
[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                               Darek Iwanski
[email protected]                                                 Paul Eggert
[email protected]                                           Jonathan Geisler
gordon@yuki                                                       Gordon Engel
[email protected]                                       Richard Grubb
[email protected]                                                     HiTech
[email protected]                                                    Joe Buck
[email protected]                                       Joel Hunter
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                                  Lance K. Chun
[email protected]                                           Matthew Jackson
[email protected]                                      John Pimentel
[email protected]                                               Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                             Ollivier Robert
[email protected]                                        Lynda L. True
[email protected]                                         Steven Inglis
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                          Stephen A. Rogers
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                                      James Kiley
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                        Tim Pierce
[email protected]                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                  Jonathan Clark
   ! Invalid address
[email protected]                                         Wayne Sheppard
   ! No vote statement in message