From [email protected] Mon Nov  2 15:39:50 1992
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From: [email protected] (Husam Kinawi)
Subject: RFD: soc.culture.egyptian
Keywords: Egypt, cultural, historical, newsgroup
Followup-To: news.groups
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Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Dept. of  Computer Science, Univ. of Calgary, Calgary, Canada
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:51:47 GMT
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Summary: creating a new newsgroup, soc.culture.egyptian
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Name of Proposed Newsgroup
==========================
	soc.culture.egyptian

Type
====
	unmoderated

Charter
=======
	A cultural newsgroup which would primarly discuss the rich heritage,
        history,   and  cultural  attributes  that  give  Egypt  its  unique
        historical  identity.  Issues  discussed  would  also include topics
        relevant  to  the development of Egyptian communities, in the realms
        of science, technology and culture.

Purpose of the Group
====================
	. Discuss  the  cultural attributes and heritage that give Egypt its
	  unique identity.
	. Discuss topics relevant to the development of Modern Egypt.
	. Provide  a  channel  through which prospective travellers to Egypt
          can seek information and recommendations from native Egyptians.

Newsgroup Creation
==================
	The  discussion  for  this group will last from Monday, Nov. 2, 1992 
        until  Friday  Dec.  4,  1992.  The  discussion should take place in 
        news.groups. All followups should be under this same title heading.

	I  am  now  inviting  all netters in general and Egyptian netters in
        particular to take part in the discussion. Any suggestions, comments
        or  problems  may  be included in the discussion or sent directly to
	[email protected]

	It might be of interest to mention that the creation of such a news-
	group  was  discussed on Egypt-net, a mailing list that has over 450
	members, last July.

	At  the end of the Discussion Period, voting will be held. The rules
	on how to vote will be posted here.

Thanks,
-- 
Husam Kinawi (Phd student)        e_mail: kinawi@[cpsc/acs].ucalgary.ca
The Dept. of Computer Science     Internet Talk: [email protected]
The University of Calgary         Tel.(Off.): (403) 220-5105
2500 University Drive N.W.        Tel.(Lab.): (403) 220-5017
Calgary, Alta., Canada T2N 1N4

From [email protected] Tue Nov 17 10:37:29 1992
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From: [email protected] (Husam Kinawi)
Subject: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.egyptian
Keywords: Egypt, cultural, historical, newsgroup
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Name of Proposed Newsgroup
==========================
	soc.culture.egyptian

Type
====
	unmoderated

Charter
=======
	A cultural newsgroup which would primarly discuss the rich heritage,
        history,   and  cultural  attributes  that  give  Egypt  its  unique
        historical  identity.  Issues  discussed  would  also include topics
        relevant  to  the development of Egyptian communities, in the realms
        of science, technology and culture.

Purpose of the Group
====================
	. Discuss  the  cultural attributes and heritage that give Egypt its
	  unique identity.
	. Discuss topics relevant to the development of Modern Egypt.
	. Provide  a  channel  through which prospective travellers to Egypt
          can seek information and recommendations from native Egyptians.

Newsgroup Creation
==================
	The  discussion  for  this group will last from Monday, Nov. 2, 1992 
        until  Friday  Dec.  4,  1992.  The  discussion should take place in 
        news.groups. All followups should be under this same title heading.

	I  am  now  inviting  all netters in general and Egyptian netters in
        particular to take part in the discussion. Any suggestions, comments
        or  problems  may  be included in the discussion or sent directly to
	[email protected]

	It might be of interest to mention that the creation of such a news-
	group  was  discussed on Egypt-net, a mailing list that has over 450
	members, last July.

	At  the end of the Discussion Period, voting will be held. The rules
	on how to vote will be posted here.

Thanks,


Husam Kinawi
-- 
Husam Kinawi (Phd student)        e_mail: kinawi@[cpsc/acs].ucalgary.ca
The Dept. of Computer Science     Internet Talk: [email protected]
The University of Calgary         Tel.(Off.): (403) 220-5105
2500 University Drive N.W.        Tel.(Lab.): (403) 220-5017
Calgary, Alta., Canada T2N 1N4


From [email protected] Thu Nov  3 17:29:58 1994
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                           Request For Discussion
                           =======================

                         Group Name:  soc.culture.egyptian
                             Status:  Moderated
                       Distribution:  World-wide
                            Summary:  A  newsgroup  for  the discussion of 
                                      Egyptian culture and heritage.

This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating a moderated Usenet newsgroup, soc.culture.egyptian.

Charter
=======

A moderated cultural newsgroup which would provide a world-wide forum
for discussion of the rich heritage, history, and cultural attributes
that give Egypt its unique historical identity.  Issues discussed
would also include topics relevant to the development of Egyptian
communities, in the realms of science, technology and culture.

Rationale
=========

There is already a mailing list for people interested in Egypt, named
Egypt-Net .  There is also the
newsgroup alt.culture.egyptian which - being in the "alt" hierarchy -
is not carried by most sites.

The intent is to create soc.culture.egyptian as an alternative and,
for some, a more convenient vehicle to communicate about Egypt, so as
to reach as wide an audience as possible.  Also, to provide a forum
for discussion of topics relevant to Egypt such as:

	- Archaeology
	- Egyptology
	- Egyptian Travel information.
	- Egyptian Culture, literature, music, and art in general.
	- Egyptian History and geography.
	- Egyptian Customs, traditions, food, etc.
	- Egyptian Sports.
	- Egyptian Political and social issues.
               
Providing moderation to control the content of postings will provide a
more interesting and informative flow of articles encouraging more
people to read the newsgroup and actively participate.

Newsgroup Creation:
==================

(a) RFD
    ---
The discussion period will last for nearly one month, starting from
Nov.  3, 1994 and ending Dec. 1, 1994. If appropriate, a revised RFD
will be posted after 14 days, reflecting suggestions and opinions
provided by the discussion.

The details of the operation of this newsgroup will be considered
during the discussion period. Items to be discussed include, but are
not limited to:

	- Moderation policies
	- Submission guidelines
	- Moderator(s) selection
	- Etiquette

As per the USENET guidelines, the discussion would take place in
news.groups.  All followups should be under this same title heading
"Re: RFD: soc.culture.egyptian"

After the discussion period, and if there is a general agreement, a
Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued.

(b) RFD Distribution
    ----------------
The RFD is cross-posted to the following newsgroups:

news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, soc.culture.arabic,
soc.culture.african, rec.travel.misc, sci.archaeology

(c) RFD Followups
    -------------
Follow-ups will be directed to news.groups, as per USENET guidelines
for newsgroup creation.

Authors
=======
Husam Kinawi 
Mohsen Abdel-Hadi 

Sponsors
========
Mohsen Abdel-Hadi 
Noha Adly 
Dr. M. Deeb 
Tahany Gadalla 
Moustafa Ghanem 
Galal Hassan 
Dr. Abdelsalam Heddaya 
Dr. Ahmed Hussein 
Dr. Felib Iskander 
Magued Iskander 
Ahmed Khattab 
Husam Kinawi 
Dr. Mohamed Sadek 
Nadia Shalaby 
Hosam Sokkari 
Samiha Ragab   

From [email protected] Wed Nov 30 12:26:09 1994
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From: [email protected] (Husam Kinawi)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.egyptian
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 30 Nov 1994 12:23:32 -0500
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                           Request For Discussion [revised]
                           ================================
			     Status changed to unmoderated

                         Group Name:  soc.culture.egyptian
                             Status:  Unmoderated
                       Distribution:  World-wide
                            Summary:  A  newsgroup for the discussion of 
                                      Egyptian culture and heritage.

This is a revised formal request for discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating a unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, soc.culture.egyptian.

Charter
=======

A unmoderated cultural newsgroup which would provide a world-wide forum for
discussion of the rich heritage, history, and cultural attributes that give
Egypt its unique historical identity. Issues discussed would also include
topics relevant to the development of Egyptian communities, in the realms of
science, technology and culture.

Rationale
=========

There is already a mailing list for people interested in Egypt, named
Egypt-Net .  There is also the newsgroup
alt.culture.egyptian which - being in the "alt" hierarchy - is not carried by
most sites.

The intent is to create soc.culture.egyptian as an alternative and, for some,
a more convenient vehicle to communicate about Egypt, so as to reach as wide
an audience as possible. Also, to provide a forum for discussion of topics
relevant to Egypt such as:

	- Archaeology
	- Egyptology
	- Egyptian Travel information.
	- Egyptian Culture, literature, music, and art in general.
	- Egyptian History and geography.
	- Egyptian Customs, traditions, food, etc.
	- Egyptian Living/Environment/etc.
	- Egyptian Sports.
	- Egyptian Political and social issues.
        

The discussion that followed the posting of the original RFD on Nov. 3, 1994
suggest that:

	- there is a need for such a newsgroup,
	- the newsgroup should be unmoderated

and hence the need for this revised RFD.

Newsgroup Creation:
==================

(a) RFD
    ---
The discussion period of this revised RFD will last for nearly two weeks,
starting from Dec. 1, 1994 and ending Dec. 14, 1994.

As per the USENET guidelines, the discussion would take place in news.groups.
All followups should be under this same title heading:

"Re: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.egyptian"

The discussions so far prove that there is a general agreement to create this
newsgroup. Hence, and unless other strong objections surface, a Call for Votes
(CFV) will be issued on Dec. 15, 1994

(b) RFD Distribution
    ----------------
This revised RFD is cross-posted to the following newsgroups:

news.groups,		news.announce.newgroups,    soc.culture.arabic,
soc.culture.african,	rec.travel.misc,    	sci.archaeology

(c) RFD Followups
  -------------
Follow-ups will be directed to news.groups, as per USENET guidelines for
newsgroup creation.

Authors
=======
Husam Kinawi 
Mohsen Abdel-Hadi 

Sponsors
========
Mohsen Abdel-Hadi 
Noha Adly 
Dr. M. Deeb 
Tahany Gadalla 
Moustafa Ghanem 
Galal Hassan 
Dr. Abdelsalam Heddaya 
Dr. Ahmed Hussein 
Dr. Felib Iskander 
Magued Iskander 
Nermeen Ismail 
Ahmed Khattab 
Husam Kinawi 
Dr. Mohamed Sadek 
Nadia Shalaby 
Ahmed Shihab 
Hosam Sokkari 
Samiha Ragab  

From [email protected] Tue Jan 24 22:54:30 1995
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From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
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Subject: CFV: soc.culture.egyptian
Followup-To: poster
Date: 24 Jan 1995 21:56:49 -0500
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                FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 2)

Unmoderated group soc.culture.egyptian

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.egyptian	Egypt, and its society, culture, heritage, etc.

Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 15 February 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Voting questions
should be directed to Ed Bailey ([email protected]).  For questions
about the proposed group, contact Husam Kinawi  or
Mohsen Abdel-Hadi .

This CFV will be reposted to the following mailing list:
	[email protected]


CHARTER

A unmoderated cultural newsgroup which would provide a world-wide forum for
discussion of the rich heritage, history, and cultural attributes that give
Egypt its unique historical identity. Issues discussed would also include
topics relevant to the development of Egyptian communities, in the realms of
science, technology and culture.

RATIONALE

There is already a mailing list for people interested in Egypt, named
Egypt-Net .  There is also the newsgroup
alt.culture.egyptian which - being in the "alt" hierarchy - is not carried by
most sites.

The intent is to create soc.culture.egyptian as an alternative and, for some,
a more convenient vehicle to communicate about Egypt, so as to reach as wide
an audience as possible. Also, to provide a forum for discussion of topics
relevant to Egypt such as:

        - Archaeology
        - Egyptology
        - Egyptian Travel information.
        - Egyptian Culture, literature, music, and art in general.
        - Egyptian History and geography.
        - Egyptian Customs, traditions, food, etc.
        - Egyptian Living/Environment/etc.
        - Egyptian Sports.
        - Egyptian Political and social issues.


The discussion that followed the posting of the original RFD on Nov. 3, 1994
suggest that:

        - there is a need for such a newsgroup,
        - the newsgroup should be unmoderated


HOW TO VOTE

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
	[email protected]
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Posts can not be
counted.  You will recieve a reply within a few days after your votes
are recieved which indicates how I think you voted - please mail
corrections immediately.

PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS.

Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not monkey with the group names. Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program and if it can't determine your vote you will be asked to
re-vote.

For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the same
line.  Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For are
equivalent, as are No and Against.  Capitalization is not important. If you
don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters ">" that your
reply inserts.

You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or
"I vote against all of them."  Please use the form.

UseVote 3.0 Make Ballot - (c) 1993,94 Ron Dippold

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
soc.culture.egyptian Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  soc.culture.egyptian
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.  Only
one vote per account, regardless of how many people use that account.  Later
votes replace previous ones.  Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of how
many accounts you have, one vote per account regardless of how many people
use that account.  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

Thank you for taking the time to vote,
Ed Bailey
--
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."

From [email protected] Sun Feb 12 22:48:13 1995
Status: RO
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.egyptian
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Date: 12 Feb 1995 22:29:14 -0500
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                SECOND AND FINAL CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 2)

Unmoderated group soc.culture.egyptian

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.egyptian	Egypt, and its society, culture, heritage, etc.

Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 15 February 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Voting questions
should be directed to Ed Bailey ([email protected]).  For questions
about the proposed group, contact Husam Kinawi  or
Mohsen Abdel-Hadi .

This CFV will be reposted to the following mailing list:
	[email protected]


CHARTER

A unmoderated cultural newsgroup which would provide a world-wide forum for
discussion of the rich heritage, history, and cultural attributes that give
Egypt its unique historical identity. Issues discussed would also include
topics relevant to the development of Egyptian communities, in the realms of
science, technology and culture.

RATIONALE

There is already a mailing list for people interested in Egypt, named
Egypt-Net .  There is also the newsgroup
alt.culture.egyptian which - being in the "alt" hierarchy - is not carried by
most sites.

The intent is to create soc.culture.egyptian as an alternative and, for some,
a more convenient vehicle to communicate about Egypt, so as to reach as wide
an audience as possible. Also, to provide a forum for discussion of topics
relevant to Egypt such as:

        - Archaeology
        - Egyptology
        - Egyptian Travel information.
        - Egyptian Culture, literature, music, and art in general.
        - Egyptian History and geography.
        - Egyptian Customs, traditions, food, etc.
        - Egyptian Living/Environment/etc.
        - Egyptian Sports.
        - Egyptian Political and social issues.
        

The discussion that followed the posting of the original RFD on Nov. 3, 1994
suggest that:

        - there is a need for such a newsgroup,
        - the newsgroup should be unmoderated


HOW TO VOTE

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
	[email protected]
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Posts can not be
counted.  You will recieve a reply within a few days after your votes
are recieved which indicates how I think you voted - please mail
corrections immediately.

PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS.

Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not monkey with the group names. Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program and if it can't determine your vote you will be asked to
re-vote.

For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the same
line.  Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For are
equivalent, as are No and Against.  Capitalization is not important. If you
don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters ">" that your
reply inserts.

You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or
"I vote against all of them."  Please use the form.

UseVote 3.0 Make Ballot - (c) 1993,94 Ron Dippold

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
soc.culture.egyptian Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

   Vote      Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[  YES    ]  sample.group.you.support
[  NO     ]  sample.group.you oppose
[         ]  soc.culture.egyptian
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.  Only
one vote per account, regardless of how many people use that account.  Later
votes replace previous ones.  Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of how
many accounts you have, one vote per account regardless of how many people
use that account.  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

All votes received by February 5th, 23:59 GMT have been counted and ACKed.
Vote acknowledgements sent to the following addresses have bounced.  These
votes *have* been counted, but I have been unable to reply to their mail.
If you voted, but you have NOT received an ACK *and* your name is NOT listed
below, then your vote was probably lost somewhere in the ether.  Please
send another vote to [email protected].

Duncan_McIntyre/[email protected]                Duncan MCINTYRE

The following people have sent malformed ballots which have not been
superceded by a Yes, No, or Abstain vote.  These people should revote.

[email protected]                                     Alain Chammas
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                   Ahmed Barrada
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                        A. Engler Anderson
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                           Bernad Batinic
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                            Francis Assaf
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                          Galal Hassan
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                   Abo Halap
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                          ZABBAL, VIVIANE
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                               Margarita Lacabe
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                            
   ! No vote statement in message

Thank you for taking the time to vote,
Ed Bailey
-- 
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."

From [email protected] Fri Feb 24 18:27:08 1995
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From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
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Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.egyptian passes 183:17
Supersedes: 
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                               RESULT

             unmoderated group soc.culture.egyptian passes 183:17

Voting for soc.culture.egyptian closed 23:59 UTC 15 February 1995.
There were 183 YES votes and 17 NO votes, for a total of 200 valid votes. 
There was 2 abstain and 15 invalid ballots.  30 ballots were superceded or
discarded as duplicates.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.egyptian	Egypt, and its society, culture, heritage, etc.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only
contact Ed Bailey .  For questions about the
proposed group contact Husam Kinawi  or Mohsen
Abdel-Hadi .

This RESULT will be reposted to the following mailing list:
        [email protected]

CHARTER

A unmoderated cultural newsgroup which would provide a world-wide forum for
discussion of the rich heritage, history, and cultural attributes that give
Egypt its unique historical identity. Issues discussed would also include
topics relevant to the development of Egyptian communities, in the realms of
science, technology and culture.



soc.culture.egyptian Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                         Ihab A. Osman
[email protected]                                               Majd Abbar
[email protected]                                                     Al Aab
[email protected]                                         Abdel-Hadi Bukres
[email protected]                   [email protected]
[email protected]                                         christiane yassa
[email protected]                                 Adrienne Fairhall
[email protected]                                   Robert Moldenhauer
[email protected]                                          Bill Stuart
[email protected]                                                Ahmed I Shihab
[email protected]                                              Adel F. Bastawros
[email protected]                                         Ali El-Jouzou
[email protected]                                            Alan Taylor
[email protected]                                      Seyed A Alavizadeh
[email protected]                              Diya M. Al-Sarraj
[email protected]                                                            lolla
[email protected]                                         Mokbel Sayed
[email protected]                                   Ahmed Barrada
[email protected]                                               AL-Saegh, Ammar T.
[email protected]                                       Iman Seifeldin
[email protected]                                                 Amin El-Kholy
[email protected]                                            Alaa Ashmawy
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                        Mohamed Sayed
[email protected]                                             Ayman Abbas
[email protected]                                          Paul Holden
[email protected]                                      Hany Bardissi
[email protected]                               Brenda Bickett
[email protected]                                         Dr Bruce Scott
[email protected]                                    Patrick Beasley
[email protected]                                          Jeffrey A. Kintscher
[email protected]                                             Carole BERNON
[email protected]                                                  Azer Bestavros
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                                 Laurent BLOCH
[email protected]                                Birgit Nazaryan
[email protected]                                               Bob Aldridge
[email protected]                                      Leo Boutette
[email protected]                                       Brian Van Den Broeke
[email protected]                                       Herb Cameron
[email protected]                                          Paul Carroll
[email protected]                       Christopher Bradford Stone
[email protected]                                         Amr Kamal Hassan
[email protected]                                          Paul Chefurka
[email protected]                                    Dina Sayed-Ahmed
[email protected]                                                Alaa Dakroub
Duncan_McIntyre/[email protected]                          Duncan MCINTYRE
[email protected]                                               Oguocha
[email protected]                                                  Ernesto Baca
[email protected]                                           Safwat Farag 
[email protected]                                                   Muhammad Eissa
[email protected]                                     Yasser EL-SHAYEB
[email protected]                                            Eman El-Sheikh
[email protected]                                                  Espen Ore
[email protected]                                               Hussein Essawy
[email protected]                                   Felib Y. Iskander
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                                      Greg Franklin
[email protected]                                                       Susan Fuhs
[email protected]                                              Gabe Helou
[email protected]                                                 Hani Gabra
[email protected]                                          Galal Hassan
[email protected]                                              EuGene Tramaglino
[email protected]                                                   Gil Neiger
[email protected]                                               Mary E. Gossage
[email protected]                                                  Gregg DeNeui
[email protected]                                    Doug Griffith 
[email protected]                                                    Kiran Wagle
[email protected]                                       Hesham Elgharib
[email protected]                                          James Harvey
[email protected]                                           Abdelsalam Heddaya
[email protected]                                                  Ann Helgeson
[email protected]                                     Rod Henderson
[email protected]                                Hassam Ameen
[email protected]                                      Henning Holtschneider
[email protected]                                               Hani El-Sakkout
[email protected]                                            James Hiel
[email protected]                                               Teresa Ho
[email protected]                                     Hirofumi TANADA
[email protected]                                            Salam Hussain
[email protected]                                                        Idem
[email protected]                                              Haisam K. Ido 
[email protected]                                            Ingo Haberland
[email protected]                                                   Heidi Bishay
[email protected]                                          Alex Khalil
[email protected]                                             Fuad Issa
[email protected]                                                      Deborah Kelly
[email protected]                                                    j.c.silva
[email protected]                                       James Chokey
[email protected]                                        Jeffrey Diamond 
[email protected]                                            John Ford
[email protected]                                                Joseph F. Simon
[email protected]                                                  John Morrill
[email protected]                                                Jan Pieter Kunst
[email protected]                                        Julian Barker
[email protected]                                           Jens Stroebel
[email protected]                                                 Ahmed Kamel
[email protected]                                            Karim Hussein
[email protected]                                                   k.galil
[email protected]                                           Khaled Elsayed
[email protected]                                           Husam Kinawi
[email protected]                                        Khalid Salha
[email protected]                                                 Leanne Northrop
[email protected]                                               Fayrouz
[email protected]                                       MICHAEL LEE
[email protected]                                        Glenn Carnagey
[email protected]                                                    Majd Alwan
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                         Magued Iskander
[email protected]                                    MOSTAFA ELKADY
[email protected]                                               bassem medawar
[email protected]                                                  Mike Hatz
[email protected]                                               Margarita Lacabe
[email protected]                                            Moustafa M. Ghanem
[email protected]                                              Scott Mohnkern
[email protected]                                     Mrs. Susan Moore
[email protected]                                            Ken Morin
[email protected]                                                    Manuel Ruiz
[email protected]                                           Sawsan Mustafa
[email protected]                                            Nermin Ismail
[email protected]                                        Nabil I Gangi 
[email protected]                                           Nadia Shalaby 
[email protected]                 Nathan J. Mehl 
[email protected]                                  Nicole B. Hansen
[email protected]                                             Nigel Strudwick
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                        Noha Adly
[email protected]                                            Olaf Laczak
[email protected]                                                                    
[email protected]                                               Peter A.J. Nagy
[email protected]                                        James Petts
[email protected]                                                Phillip Williams
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                               Pete Humble
[email protected]                                                 Doug Preece
[email protected]                                    Michelle Mader
[email protected]                                                      Paul Mauvais
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                                S Suwellam
[email protected]                                                Rob Arnold
[email protected]                                                Ron Blum
[email protected]                                          Corprew Reed
[email protected]                                                Richard Miller
[email protected]                                          Wael Elwasif
[email protected]                                                  Ruth M. Sylte
[email protected]                                     Ronald A Watson
[email protected]                                   Serge Rosmorduc
[email protected]                                              Roger Pearse
[email protected]                                       ruben gischler
[email protected]                                              J. Rufinus
[email protected]                         SHERIN ELSHERBINY
[email protected]                                         Michel Le Sann
[email protected]                                                 Amr Sabry
[email protected]                                             saleh elmohamed
[email protected]                              Samiha K. Ragab
[email protected]                                  Samir M. Fahs
[email protected]                                                     Ayman Sayed
[email protected]                                     El Shabrawi Atef
[email protected]                                     Forneal Sanka
[email protected]                                          Wael El-Deredy
[email protected]                                       Sameh Sowelam
[email protected]                                    Rudy Stavinga 
[email protected]                                              Steve Mitchell
[email protected]                                                  Stewart Driller
[email protected]                                         Eric Stolle
[email protected]                                             Tahany Gadalla
[email protected]                                                 Tamer Ziady
[email protected]                                         Robert Tibbo
[email protected]                                                 Tony Ezzat
[email protected]                                      Kim Troutman
[email protected]                                             Rogers Cadenhead
[email protected]          Mohsen Abdel-Hadi 
[email protected]                                         Stefano UNTERNAEHRER
[email protected]                                          Walid A. Zgallai
[email protected]                                      David Webster
[email protected]                                              Werner Uhrig
[email protected]                                                Axel Westerhold
[email protected]                                                Walid Hamdy
[email protected]                                                Steve Whittet
[email protected]                                                  S Leaf
[email protected]                               Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                          Dr. Omar Zidan

Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                                        Martin H. Booda
[email protected]                                                  Bill Yeakel
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                             David
[email protected]                                                 David W. Crawford
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                          Julia Arabiat
[email protected]                                 Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                                      Larry Smith
[email protected]                                                       L. Said
[email protected]                                           Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                                 M Mike Taksar
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                                     Victor Tan
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown

Abstained
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[email protected]                                   K.P. Crouch
[email protected]                                                  M. Otto


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                     Alain Chammas
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[email protected]                        A. Engler Anderson
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[email protected]                           Bernad Batinic
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[email protected]                                            Francis Assaf
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[email protected]                                 Frank Joseph Yurco
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[email protected]                                                   Abo Halap
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[email protected]                                              john adams
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[email protected]                                          ZABBAL, VIVIANE
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[email protected]                              Jeffrey K. Ratcliffe
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[email protected]                                 Nicholas Fitzpatrick
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[email protected]                             Steve Christofferson
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[email protected]                                     Shadi Sifain
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[email protected]                                      Suhaib Mohammed
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[email protected]                                                Yara A Hamad
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