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Subject: RFD: misc.education.esl-efl
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (1)
This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of English to speakers of other languages.
It will allow participants to exchangeinformation on ESL/EFL
pedagogy, classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of
those working in the profession.
Group Name:
misc.education.esl-efl
Status:
Unmoderated
Background:
>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method,the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline. English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL) has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.
Purpose:
The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.
Discussion:
Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the
USENET Newsgroup news.groups . If the reader is not able to do so,
comments may be e-mailed to the proposer, at the address below.
Voting:
If no problems arise, voting will start one month from the posting
date of this RFD.
Proposer:
[email protected]
Julie Falsetti
Hunter College
City University of New York
New York, NY
From [email protected] Fri Jun 11 15:53:17 1993
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Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.education.language.english
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (2)
Many USENET members suggested that the original name for the group
was confusing. Thus, the following name change is submitted for
discussion. All else remains unchanged.
This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of English to speakers of other languages. It
will allow participants to exchange information on ESL/EFL pedagogy,
classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of those working
in the profession.
Group Name:
FROM: misc.education.ESL-EFL
to
NEW NAME: misc.education.language.english
Status:
Unmoderated
Background:
>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method,the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline. English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL) has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.
Purpose:
The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.
Discussion:
Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the
USENET Newsgroup news.groups . If the reader is not able to do so,
comments may be e-mailed to the proposer, at the address below.
Voting:
If no problems arise, voting will start one month from the posting
date of this RFD.
Proposer:
[email protected]
Julie Falsetti
Hunter College
City University of New York
New York, NY
From [email protected] Tue Jul 13 09:24:56 1993
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From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
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Subject: CFV: misc.education.language.english
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Call for Votes: misc.education.language.english
===============================================
This is an official call for votes with regard to the proposed creation
of a newsgroup 'misc.education.language.english'. A suggested charter
for this group was first posted on May 27. Because of questions
regarding the name of the group, a 2nd RFD was posted on June 10.
No further objections were raised during the subsequent thirty-
day period. Following are instructions for voting and notice of the
proposed group's charter.
Voting Instructions (IMPORTANT)
-- all votes must be sent by *email* to
[email protected]
On no account should votes be posted to any Usenet newsgroup.
Such votes will be considered invalid.
-- Votes should contain a line in the form
I vote FOR the group misc.education.language.english
OR a line in the form
I vote AGAINST the group misc.education.language.english
These forms need not be adhered to exactly, but the message should
contain (in a single line) one of the words FOR, YES, AGAINST, NO
as desired, along with the name of the group and the word 'vote'.
--- Voting will end on August 9, 12:00 EDT. Votes received after
that time will not be counted.
___ No individual may vote more than once.
--- The usual Usenet requirements for newsgroup cration hold: at
least two-thirds of the votes received should be yes/for votes
and there should be at least 100 more yes/for votes than
no/against votes.
CHARTER
This is a call for votes on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of English to speakers of other languages.
It will allow participants to exchangeinformation on ESL/EFL
pedagogy, classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of
those working in the profession.
Group Name:
misc.education.language.english
Status:
Unmoderated
Background:
>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method, the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline. English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization, Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL), has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.
Purpose:
The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.
Proposer:
[email protected]
Julie Falsetti
Hunter College
City University of New York
New York, NY
From [email protected] Mon Aug 2 11:31:31 1993
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From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: misc.education.language.english
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This is the 2nd official Call for Votes and Vote acknowledgement
of votes received so far. Vote acknowledgements follow the original
CFV proposal.
Call for Votes: misc.education.language.english
===============================================
This is an official call for votes with regard to the proposed creation
of a newsgroup 'misc.education.language.english'. A suggested charter
for this group was first posted on May 27. Because of questions
regarding the name of the group, a 2nd RFD was posted on June 10.
No further objections were raised during the subsequent thirty-
day period. Following are instructions for voting and notice of the
proposed group's charter.
Voting Instructions (IMPORTANT)
-- all votes must be sent by *email* to
[email protected]
On no account should votes be posted to any Usenet newsgroup.
Such votes will be considered invalid.
-- Votes should contain a line in the form
I vote FOR the group misc.education.language.english
OR a line in the form
I vote AGAINST the group misc.education.language.english
These forms need not be adhered to exactly, but the message should
contain (in a single line) one of the words FOR, YES, AGAINST, NO
as desired, along with the name of the group and the word 'vote'.
--- Voting will end on August 9, 12:00 EDT. Votes received after
that time will not be counted.
___ No individual may vote more than once.
--- The usual Usenet requirements for newsgroup cration hold: at
least two-thirds of the votes received should be yes/for votes
and there should be at least 100 more yes/for votes than
no/against votes.
CHARTER
This is a call for votes on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of English to speakers of other languages.
It will allow participants to exchangeinformation on ESL/EFL
pedagogy, classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of
those working in the profession.
Group Name:
misc.education.language.english
Status:
Unmoderated
Background:
>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method, the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline. English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization, Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL), has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.
Purpose:
The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.
Proposer:
[email protected]
Julie Falsetti
Hunter College
City University of New York
New York, NY
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(Jeffrey D. Angus) [email protected]
"ALI A. AGHBAR"
"Don Moore"
"Elka.Todeva" <[email protected]>
"Fred Swartz"
"John Oliver"
"Michael J. Quinn"
"TeresaRoss "
Alan Trivett
Alison Rice
[email protected]
Bill Nickless
[email protected] (Bob Christ)
CALIX
[email protected] (Cynthia Bermudez)
CHARLES SANDY
[email protected] (charlie fingerhut)
CSH%[email protected]
David Pincus
David Tillyer
[email protected]
Doug Payne
[email protected] (Daniel SAVEY)
[email protected]
ELD[email protected] (Greenberg, Eldad,OSC)
Elizabeth Guthrie
[email protected] (Mike Engelhardt)
[email protected] (enzyme)
Eric Schweitzer
ESLSNOKE@VTVM1
Farrukh Hakeem
Foo Say How
Georg Schwarz
George Baltz
Graham Toal
Greg Morrow
[email protected] (Brennan Tennesen Price)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Hardcore Alaskan
[email protected] (Steve Hayes)
Heikki J Korpinen
Heltsley April
[email protected] (sam frajerman)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jim Chaffee)
[email protected]
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a
[email protected] (Jim Cheetham)
[email protected]
[email protected] (=Jody Gevins Underwood)
[email protected] (Joe Allen)
John Dumicich
John G. Lindner
[email protected] (John Leslie)
[email protected] (Joshua J. Caron)
Joyce Wang
Judi Tenuta Stein
[email protected] (Julian Macassey)
Kate Garretson
Kathleen Schirra
Kathryn Allahyari
Kathryn Nikodem
Kevin Junck
Lee Levine
[email protected] (Luciano Mannucci)
Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected] (Alan McCain)
M[email protected]
[email protected] (Michael Feldman)
Michele
[email protected]
[email protected] (Moises Szponka (UCV))
Murray Nesbitt
NAKAMATSU%[email protected]
Peter Farrell
Peter W Lee
[email protected] (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY)
[email protected] (Daniel S. Rice)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
Rita Elaine Silver
Robin C Vue-Benson-1
Ron Graham
Ronald R. Corio
Ruth Martin
Ryan Bayne
[email protected] (ddd)
Shane Hartman
Shera
Silvia Quijano Rivadeneyra
STEPHEN MITCHELL
[email protected] (Steve McGuire)
Susan Simon
Systems Coordinator 855-1958
Takashi Matsunaga
Thomas Flynn Riedmiller
[email protected] (Thomas Nixon)
[email protected] (Timothy Stewart)
Tin Tin
[email protected] (Ted Koppel)
Tomorrow
[email protected] (Theresa P. Ammirati)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Thomas Robb)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Tim Schmidt)
William Gathergood
Yamil Sacin
From [email protected] Wed Aug 11 14:47:43 1993
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From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
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Subject: RESULT: misc.education.language.english passes 143:26
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YES NO 2/3? >100? PASS?
=== === === ===== =====
143 26 yes yes yes
Assuming no objections to the voting procedure, misc.education.language.
english will be created in about a week. The vote acknowledgements
follow. Many thanks to everyone who voted!
YES Votes
=========================================================================
Abner J. Mintz"
[email protected] (Nigel Allen)
[email protected]
Alan Trivett
ALI A. AGHBAR"
Alison Rice
[email protected]
Andrew Blaner
audrey"
[email protected]
CALIX
[email protected] (Cynthia Bermudez)
CHARLES SANDY
[email protected] (charlie fingerhut)
Christine Norris - Local 2357
Clements
CSH%[email protected]
David Pincus
[email protected] (Dean Edwards)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Deborah Foreman-Takano)
[email protected]
Don Linder
Don Moore"
Doug Payne
[email protected] (Daniel SAVEY)
[email protected] (Dave E. Goggin)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Dale Eckart)
[email protected]
ELD[email protected] (Greenberg, Eldad,OSC)
Elizabeth Guthrie
Elka.Todeva" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Mike Engelhardt)
[email protected] (enzyme)
Eric Schweitzer
ESLSNOKE@VTVM1
[email protected]
Farrukh Hakeem
Foo Say How
Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC"
Fred Swartz"
[email protected] (Brennan Tennesen Price)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Hardcore Alaskan
[email protected] (Steve Hayes)
Heikki J Korpinen
Heltsley April
[email protected] (ICP)
[email protected] (ishmael)
[email protected] (sam frajerman)
Jack Cousineau
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jim Chaffee)
[email protected]
Jean Graham
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a
[email protected] (Jim Cheetham)
[email protected]
[email protected] (=Jody Gevins Underwood)
John Dumicich
John G. Lindner
John Oliver"
[email protected] (Joshua J. Caron)
Joyce Wang
Juan Parra
Judi Tenuta Stein
Julie Falsetti
[email protected]
Kate Garretson
Kathleen Schirra
Kathryn Allahyari
Kathryn Nikodem
Kenneth C. Schmidt"
Kevin Junck
Kevin Ryan
Lee Levine
Loren J. Miller"
[email protected] (Luciano Mannucci)
LYNNE L. HSU"
Martha Hsu
[email protected] (Alan McCain)
M[email protected]
[email protected] (Michael Feldman)
michael
Michael J. Quinn"
Michele
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Moises Szponka (UCV))
[email protected] (Vasudev Murthy)
NAKAMATSU%[email protected]
Nancy Larkin
Paul Estin
Peter Farrell
Peter W Lee
[email protected] (Patrick G. Xavier)
[email protected] (Steven Rapkin)
[email protected] (Ross Bender)
[email protected]
[email protected] (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY)
[email protected] (Robert E. Maas rem@btr.com)
[email protected] (Daniel S. Rice)
Richard Hewison
Rita Elaine Silver
Robin C Vue-Benson-1
Ron Graham
Ronald R. Corio
Rose Wang
Ruth Martin
Samuli K{rkk{inen
[email protected] (ddd)
Sharon Sealy Lang. Education
Shera
Silvia Quijano Rivadeneyra
STEPHEN MITCHELL
[email protected] (Steve McGuire)
Sun-treader
Systems Coordinator 855-1958
Tai.David"
Takashi Matsunaga
TeresaRoss "
Terry Futaba
Thomas Flynn Riedmiller
[email protected] (Thomas Nixon)
[email protected] (Timothy Stewart)
Tin Tin
Tomorrow
[email protected] (Theresa P. Ammirati)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Thomas Robb)
tschmid[email protected]
[email protected]
Wendy Allison
WILHC@CUNYVM
William Gathergood
[email protected]
Yamil Sacin
[email protected]
NO Votes
=======================================================================
Jeffrey D. Angus) [email protected]
Bill Nickless
[email protected] (Bob Christ)
Daniel Zirin"
David Tillyer
[email protected] (Ed McGuire)
Georg Schwarz
George Baltz
Graham Toal
Greg Morrow
[email protected]
Irene A. Juzkiw"
[email protected] (Joe Allen)
[email protected] (John Leslie)
[email protected] (Julian Macassey)
[email protected]"
Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
Murray Nesbitt
[email protected] (Naren Bala)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
Ryan Bayne
Shane Hartman
[email protected] (Smarasderagd Draco)
Susan Simon
[email protected] (Ted Koppel)
[email protected] (Rick Wagner)