From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 03:09:57 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1826 news.groups:39231 comp.sys.sgi:16835 comp.graphics:21304 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Gordon CameronSubject: RFD: comp.graphics.explorer Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1992 04:27:43 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 83 Request for Discussion (RFD) ============================ This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named : comp.graphics.explorer What about the discussion ? =========================== This discussion will take place in the group : news.groups If you're interested in taking part, this is the place to post to. If you feel you have any comments, then please try and contribute. Brief Description of Explorer ============================= IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by SiliconGraphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any traditonal code. IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be ported to several machines in the near future. What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter) ===================================================== Part of the point of this posting is to try and talk over this very question #:-} Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Some Issues =========== It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the possible issues include : (1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ? - should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or comp.sys.sgi.explorer ??? (2) Is there sufficient interest ?? (3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? (related to point 1) (4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ? - if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do admirably with comp.sys.sgi ? (5) Should the group be moderated ? Other Options ============= ...include the formation of a mailing list as an interim measure. Is there any comment/interest in this ? ...and finally ============== I feel that Explorer constitutes an important tool for scientists and engineers. The user-base has the potential to be vast, and indeed should potentially include ALL SGI customers. With such a large potential user base, the scope for questions and discussion is enormous, and a USENET group for this purpose I think would be beneficial to users, module writers, and the Explorer developers. This last group could benefit from immediate feedback from the users, and the users in turn could feel that they have somewhere to ask questions, and hopefully increase their productivity. The mailing list ================ If there is any interest in an alternative mailing list, could they please mail the following address : [email protected] i.e. NOT my personal mail address #:-} Any comments would be useful - please not too many flames :) -- e|p Gordon Cameron Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Email: [email protected] oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo From [email protected] Fri Apr 24 13:56:38 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.cray,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.graphics From: Gordon Cameron Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.explorer Followup-To: news.groups Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1992 14:39:55 GMT oOo Request For Discusion - comp.graphics.explorer oOo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named : comp.graphics.explorer This discussion is to take place in the group news.groups which is an unmoderated discussion group. Please direct all comments, replies etc. to this group (crossposted if particularly relevant elsewhere).... oOo oOo oOo What is Explorer ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be ported to several machines in the near future. Currently modules are also availabe for Cray machines. oOo oOo oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group. (The mailing list may be contacted for further details/subscriptions etc., at [email protected]) oOo oOo oOo What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Perhaps something similar to comp.graphics.avs, or comp.soft-sys.khoros. oOo oOo oOo Some Questions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the possible issues include : (1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ? - should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or comp.sys.sgi.explorer ? (2) Is there sufficient interest ? (3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? (related to point 1) (4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ? - if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do with the mailing list at present? (5) Should the group be moderated ? oOo oOo oOo Formation of Newsgroup ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If response is favourable, then further details will be posted nearer the time (to all relevant newsgroups) detailing how people can vote either for or against the formation Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The mailing list service will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News. Comments on this to [email protected] oOo oOo oOo -- e|p Gordon Cameron | Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre | Email: [email protected] oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo | 'So far so good, so now so what' From [email protected] Thu May 7 07:26:29 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2306 news.groups:50442 comp.sys.sgi:20874 comp.graphics:26964 comp.graphics.visualization:1871 comp.unix.cray:730 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.unix.cray Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron Subject: CFV: comp.graphics.explorer Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 06:15:54 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 103 oOo Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is an initial call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group comp.graphics.explorer Unmoderated Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE) Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron [email protected] (see How to Vote below) oOo oOo oOo Group Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time. Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working on future versions of the software. oOo oOo oOo How To Vote ~~~~~~~~~~~ To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual, only the last one will be registered. Example of how to vote ---------------------- Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer or, Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not count). The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored. oOo oOo oOo What Happens Next ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be verified. After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created. oOo oOo oOo Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing [email protected]) is currently active and was formed after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News. Comments on this to the request address. The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will remain active. oOo oOo oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group. oOo oOo oOo Remember - I can't say how to vote, but please DO vote !! -- e|p Gordon Cameron | Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre | Email: [email protected] oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo | 'So far so good, so now so what' From [email protected] Mon May 18 14:52:19 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2357 news.groups:51172 comp.graphics:27248 comp.graphics.visualization:1922 comp.sys.sgi:21363 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.graphics.explorer Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 18:20:15 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 315 oOo 2nd Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo + Vote ACK - 16th May 1992 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is a 2nd call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group comp.graphics.explorer Unmoderated Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE) Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron [email protected] (see How to Vote below) A list of voters registered so far (16th May 1992) appears at the end of this message oOo oOo oOo Group Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time. Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working on future versions of the software. oOo oOo oOo How To Vote ~~~~~~~~~~~ To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual, only the last one will be registered. Example of how to vote ---------------------- To: [email protected] Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer or, Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not count). The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored. oOo oOo oOo What Happens Next ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be verified. After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created. oOo oOo oOo Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing [email protected]) is currently active and was formed after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News. Comments on this to the request address. The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will remain active. oOo oOo oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group. oOo oOo oOo Votes received so far - any queries to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aaron Schuman Al Globus alan dare Alan Knight Alan Peevers Alex Pang Alex S. Crain Andreas Wierse Andrew J Wilson Angelo Mangili Augustine Lo Bill E. Eickmeier Bill Owens Bill Southworth Blaise Frederick Bob Brown Bob Lewis Booker Bense Brian Kauffman Brian Kauffman Bryan Reutter Buck Buchanan C Thornborrow Cal Kirchhof Charles Boesel Charles Gaumond Charles Ledogar Chieh-Cheng J. Yen Chris Galas Chris Hebert Chris Lilley Chris Pennington Christopher Fouts [email protected] Cocotte Minute Craig Steinberger Craig Upson [email protected] Cynthia D. McLain D.C. Dan Waylonis Danny Thomas Dave Cahlander Dave Donegan Dave Englund Dave Foulser Dave Shreiner David A Shinberg David Haight David Holt David Ofelt David Reuteler David Stewart [email protected] [email protected] Demetri Terzopoulos Deyang Song Dick Jackson dixons [email protected] Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University Dr. John S. Eickemeyer Dr. Michael M. Cohen Drew R Whitehouse Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Gary Oberbrunner George Elkins George Vanecek Jr. Gianni Mariani Gitta Domik glenn p. forney Gordon Cameron Gordon Erlebacher [email protected] Greg Fairbrother [email protected] Gus Williams Hans feil [email protected] [email protected] Heiko Schlichting Helen Salter Henrik Klagges highnam Holly_Rushmeier [email protected] [email protected] Ingela Nordhage Ion Barosan [email protected] Jacqueline Dousson James J. Mcleod James Peters Jay Long Jean M. Favre Jeff Allston Jeff Hanson Jeffrey A. Thingvold Jerry Swearingen Jim Chen Jim Johnson Jim Salem [email protected] Jim_Sims_x2710 Joe Biegel Joe Brust Joel Neisen John D. McCalpin John Gregor John Hagedorn John Hwa John M. Troyer John Martin John R. Chawner John Rupley John Schmidt John Wilson Karl Geppert Karl Henrik Eggestad Karl Washburn Kathy Carusone [email protected] Kerry C. Hilldrup Kevin Russo Kian-Tat Lim [email protected] Larry Coffin Larry Schuette Lawrence Mark Lifshitz Lee Davis Len Zaifman Leo Blume [email protected] (Robert Lipman) Loki Jorgenson Magnus Bergman Malcolm Davis Malcolm W. Ice Man Wei Tam Manuel Gamito Marc Andreessen Mark Bartelt Mark Solsman Martin Knoblauch Marty Marra Marvin Landis Matthew White [email protected] Michael Bobak Naci Dai [email protected] Nils Thune [email protected] Olof Runborg Patrick J. Flynn [email protected] Paul Jensen Paul Smith [email protected] Pierre MARTEL R. AJAY KUMAR Raul Essig Richard H. Miller Rick Speer Rob MacLeod Robert DeMillo Robert E. Minsk Robert Hallowell Robert Skinner Roger Crawfis Roland Schweitzer [email protected] Ruth White Scott Bolte Scott Draves seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Stefan Farestam Stephen Bohus Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) Steve Couturie Steve Larkin Steve Olson Steve Rogers Steve Rooke Steve Van Gorder Steven Anderson Steven H. Izen T. Todd Elvins Thomas C. Palmer Tim Monks [email protected] U. Lang Vincent A. Frouhar Vincent LE BARAZER Vivien Hannon, UCIS Wayne A. Vieira Wayne Podaima westenberg g. william e lorensen William J. Bouma Wizard of OZ [email protected] /usr/spool/mail/young -- e|p Gordon Cameron | Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre | Email: [email protected] oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo | 'So far so good, so now so what' From [email protected] Wed Jun 3 09:54:10 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2396 news.groups:52038 comp.graphics.visualization:1972 comp.sys.sgi:22012 comp.graphics:27565 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.graphics.explorer Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1992 19:33:02 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 402 oOo 3rd Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo + Vote ACK - 31st May 1992 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is the 3rd and final call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group comp.graphics.explorer Unmoderated Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE) Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron [email protected] (see How to Vote below) Voting Period ENDS at midnight (GMT) on 4th June A list of voters registered so far (31st May 1992) appears at the end of this message oOo oOo oOo Group Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time. Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working on future versions of the software. oOo oOo oOo How To Vote ~~~~~~~~~~~ To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual, only the last one will be registered. Example of how to vote ---------------------- To: [email protected] Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer or, Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not count). The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored. oOo oOo oOo What Happens Next ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be verified. After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created. oOo oOo oOo Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing [email protected]) is currently active and was formed after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News. Comments on this to the request address. The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will remain active. oOo oOo oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group. oOo oOo oOo Votes received so far - any queries to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aaron Schuman Al Globus Alain Massiot alan dare Alan Davis Alan Knight Alan Peevers Alex Butler (JRG ra) Alex Pang Alex S. Crain anand kolatkar Andras Salamon Andreas Wierse Andrew J Wilson Andrew Wyatt <[email protected]> Angelo Mangili Augustine Lo Bill E. Eickmeier Bill Owens Bill Southworth Blaise Frederick Bob Brown Bob Lewis Bob Swaffar Booker Bense Bradley Moskowitz Brian Kauffman Brian Stone Bryan Reutter Buck Buchanan C Thornborrow Cal Kirchhof Charles Boesel Charles Gaumond Charles Ledogar Chieh-Cheng J. Yen Chris Cressy Chris Galas Chris Hebert Chris Lilley Chris Pennington Chris Rousculp Christian REBIFFE _ Pre Sales Manager Christopher Fouts [email protected] Cocotte Minute Coral Bernier [email protected] Craig Steinberger Craig Upson [email protected] Cynthia D. McLain D.C. Dan Severance Dan Waylonis Daniel Hoffmann Danny Thomas Dave Cahlander Dave Ciemiewicz Dave Donegan Dave Englund Dave Foulser Dave Kerlick Dave Shreiner David A Shinberg David Haight David Holt David M. Senseman David Ofelt David Reuteler David Stewart [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Demetri Terzopoulos Deyang Song