From [email protected] Fri Jun 19 13:19:57 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2420 news.groups:52900 alt.fractals:3056 comp.graphics:28021 comp.theory.dynamic-sys:903 comp.theory.self-org-sys:331 comp.theory.cell-automata:1117 alt.config:9709 comp.compression:3781 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractals,comp.graphics,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys,comp.theory.cell-automata,alt.config,comp.compression Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich ThomsonSubject: RFD: comp.graphics.fractals Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1992 04:05:59 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 35 [Please note that followups are directed to news.groups] There is a growing interest in fractals, mostly from inside the computer graphics community. The newsgroup alt.fractals has been around for quite a while with moderate to heavy traffic at times. Fractals have grown from mathematical curiosities towards real-world applications (chemical dynamics on 'fractal' interfaces, fractal image compression, diffusion limited aggregates, etc.) as well as increasing use in computer graphics (particle systems, L-systems, solid textures, volume rendering of quarternion julia sets, etc.). This RFD proposes the elimination of alt.fractals (or aliased as the case may be) and the creation of comp.graphics.fractals. Other possibilities could be sci.fractals, or sci.math.fractals, but the bulk of the traffic in the existing fractals newsgroup deals with the computer graphical aspect of the topic, so I am proposing that it go under the comp.graphics hierarchy. By moving the group from the alt hierarchy into the comp hierarchy, it is hoped that a wider audience will be reached. Proposed name: comp.graphics.fractals Proposed status: unmoderated Commentary is directed to news.groups. After the sufficient period of time, this RFD will be replaced with a call for votes on the creation of the new group, provided no significant objections are offered during the discussion period. -- Rich -- Repeal the personal income tax; vote Libertarian in 1992. Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson UUCP: ...!uunet!dsd.es.com!rthomson Rich Thomson Internet: [email protected] IRC: _Rich_ PEXt Programmer From [email protected] Tue Aug 11 19:51:56 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2618 news.groups:55348 alt.fractals:3248 comp.graphics:29588 comp.theory.dynamic-sys:974 comp.theory.self-org-sys:337 comp.theory.cell-automata:1202 alt.config:10477 comp.compression:4334 sci.math:30156 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractals,comp.graphics,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys,comp.theory.cell-automata,alt.config,comp.compression,sci.math Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson Subject: CFV: sci.fractals Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: dsd.es.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 23:31:13 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 44 Since the 30 day discussion period has expired, I am making the first official call for votes for the following newsgroup: sci.fractals Unmoderated There is a growing interest in fractals, mostly from inside the computer graphics community, but also from the mathematical and scientific community. The newsgroup alt.fractals has been around for quite a while with moderate to heavy traffic at times. Fractals have grown from mathematical curiosities towards real-world applications (chemical dynamics on 'fractal' interfaces, fractal image compression, diffusion limited aggregates, etc.) as well as increasing use in computer graphics (particle systems, L-systems, solid textures, volume rendering of quarternion julia sets, etc.). This CFV proposes the elimination of alt.fractals (or aliased as the case may be) and the creation of sci.fractals. By moving the group from the alt hierarchy into the comp hierarchy, it is hoped that a wider audience will be reached. The only objection to the original RFD was the name. Of all the names discussed, sci.fractals was considered to be the best one suggested. The voting period will end in 30 days on September 11th. To cast your vote, send me electronic mail with one of the following as the subject of the message: "sci.fractals: NO" To cast a NO vote "sci.fractals: YES" To cast a YES vote >From within most news readers you should be able to simply reply to the sender of this message ([email protected]) and change the subject line appropriately. DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE! POSTED VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED!! After two weeks, a mass vote acknowledgement and a second call for votes will be issued. -- Rich -- Repeal the personal income tax; vote Libertarian in 1992. Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson UUCP: ...!uunet!dsd.es.com!rthomson Rich Thomson Internet: [email protected] IRC: _Rich_ PEXt Programmer From [email protected] Thu Aug 27 01:15:18 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2651 news.groups:55821 alt.fractals:3300 comp.graphics:30079 comp.theory.dynamic-sys:990 comp.theory.self-org-sys:341 comp.theory.cell-automata:1215 alt.config:10702 comp.compression:4455 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractals,comp.graphics,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys,comp.theory.cell-automata,alt.config,comp.compression Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.fractals Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:57:21 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 278 [Please note that followups are directed to news.groups] This is the second official call for votes for the following newsgroup: sci.fractals Unmoderated There is a growing interest in fractals, mostly from inside the computer graphics community, but also from the mathematical and scientific community. The newsgroup alt.fractals has been around for quite a while with moderate to heavy traffic at times. Fractals have grown from mathematical curiosities towards real-world applications (chemical dynamics on 'fractal' interfaces, fractal image compression, diffusion limited aggregates, etc.) as well as increasing use in computer graphics (particle systems, L-systems, solid textures, volume rendering of quarternion julia sets, etc.). This CFV proposes the elimination of alt.fractals (or aliased as the case may be) and the creation of sci.fractals. By moving the group from the alt hierarchy into the comp hierarchy, it is hoped that a wider audience will be reached. The only objection to the original RFD was the name. Of all the names discussed, sci.fractals was considered to be the best one suggested. The voting period will end on September 11th. To cast your vote, send me electronic mail with one of the following as the subject of the message: "sci.fractals: NO" To cast a NO vote "sci.fractals: YES" To cast a YES vote >From within most news readers you should be able to simply reply to the sender of this message ([email protected]) and change the subject line appropriately. DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE! POSTED VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED!! Votes have been received from the following people: "Christopher J. Henrich" "Dave Schaumann" "Eric J. Olson" "Erich E. Brumbaugh" "Geoffrey D. Bennett" "Geoffrey H. Day" "Howard Wachtel (312) 975-7970" "Jason D. Kridner" "Luis G. Hernandez Ure\:a." "Michael L. Kaufman" "Robert D. Black" "[email protected]" "robert j hinde" [email protected] (John Beimler) [email protected] (Andy Osbaldestin) Adam Justin Thornton Andrew Bromage Andrew Stoker Andy Gallo Andy Harp <"LISZT::harp%hermes.mod.uk"@relay.mod.uk> Antti Karttunen B.J. 12-Aug-1992 1016 [email protected] Bob Knighten Boris Hemkemeier Brian B. Young Danielle Bercel David McKee David S. Blumenthal David Sanderman Doug Young [email protected] (Doug Crompton) Dr. Mario Hilgemeier Erik Rauch Evert Wolsheimer [email protected] Greg Lindahl Gregor Purdy Gregory Yovanof Hendrik Boom Huddleston [email protected] James T Graves [email protected] [email protected] (Jens Horstmann * 415-336-3537) Jeyakesavan Veerasamy Karthik P Sheka Kees van der Wal +31 70 332 6295 Keith A Gottlieb Keith Clayton Kent Murray Kevin Blaine Fluet Konrad Weigl Louis Keiner Martin Schoenhacker Meinolf Asshoff Michael Robb Mike Zanker [email protected] PERSSON ERIK DEWITT Paul Palmer Peter Cahoon Peter Edwards Philip J. Nesser Porsupah Ralf Stephan Randy J. Ray Richard Freytag Rick Speer Robert Roy Hentzel [email protected] (Bob Uomini) Ronald Joe Record Ryan Bayne Sam Laur Simon Steve Yaros Stig Hemmer Sven Heinicke Sven Wachter Taj Khattra Tak Thomas Bogenschuetz Tom Crossland Tommy Vaske Udo Sprute Venkata Goli Warren Kafer [email protected] (Andrew Pochinsky) [email protected] (Anders Emil Olsen) [email protected] (William Zimmerman) [email protected] (Kenichi Arakawa) [email protected] (Andy Rao ) [email protected] (Andrew Steiner) [email protected] [email protected] (Beth Schwindt) [email protected] (Bob Clystenmeier) [email protected] (Don Brutzman) [email protected] (Bryan Thompson) [email protected] (Jeff Epler) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Adam Chalcraft) [email protected] (Christopher Hardin) [email protected] (Cheryl A. F. Stewart) [email protected] [email protected] (R. Cliff Young) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Peter Coveney) [email protected] (Hans Crauel) [email protected] (Great Rumpuscat) [email protected] (Christopher M. Cohen) [email protected] (Daniel Boulet) [email protected] (Dan Jacobson) [email protected] (Dave McAllister) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David DeBry) [email protected] (doug degroot) [email protected] (Derek Wright) [email protected] (Dave Joyce) [email protected] (David Sirag) [email protected] (John Sadowsky x6211) [email protected] [email protected] (Dave Wiseman) [email protected] (Earl F. Glynn) [email protected] (Ellis Arrondo) [email protected] [email protected] (Edward Vielmetti) [email protected] (Eric Meyer) [email protected] (Erick Bryce Wong) [email protected] (Eugene N. Miya) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Frampton) [email protected] [email protected] (bastin gary 60293) [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (William F. Hammond) [email protected] ( David Harris) [email protected] (Stephan Heilmayr) [email protected] (Robert Hood) [email protected] [email protected] (Edward J. Huff) intro%@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (temporary login) j p openshaw [email protected] (Jeff A Breidenbach) [email protected] (John C. Peterson) [email protected] (Pletinckx Jurgen) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Insley) [email protected] (Jon Kogut) [email protected] (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Atkinson) [email protected] (James Durkin) [email protected] (Keith Anthony) [email protected] (Mehmet M. Kayaalp MD) [email protected] (Kim DeVaughn) [email protected] [email protected] (Kevin Allen) [email protected] (A. Joseph Koshy) [email protected] (Kim T Constantikes) [email protected] (Kurt Cockrm 762-6417) [email protected] (Patty LaBelle) [email protected] (Lyle Lexier) [email protected] (Philip Yzarn de Louraill [email protected] (Magnus Starseth) [email protected] (lloyd mitchell) [email protected] (Michael A. Neuhauser) [email protected] [email protected] (martin fallon) [email protected] (Matt Kennel) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Martin Czigler x3159) [email protected] (Mark Foltz) [email protected] (Mitch Silverman) [email protected] (Tom Moser) [email protected] (Mike Pheil) [email protected] (Mikko Tsokkinen) [email protected] [email protected] (Nick Ivanov) [email protected] [email protected] (L. A. Oldroyd) [email protected] (Ossip Kaehr) parksoft!dave (David Hendrix) [email protected] (Phil Howard ) [email protected] (Peter Couvares) [email protected] (Scott Perry) [email protected] (Philippe Grant 514-341-7106) [email protected] (Christopher Phillips) [email protected] (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay) [email protected] (Simon Plouffe) [email protected] [email protected] (David M. Read) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (ron nelson) [email protected] (Romik Dan) [email protected] [email protected] (Richard Kulawiec) [email protected] (Rui Soto Marta) [email protected] (R.S. Srinivasan) [email protected] (SAGA/SGBDR diversos ) [email protected] (Samuel Murphy) [email protected] (Harald Schmidt) [email protected] (Mark Seligman) [email protected] [email protected] (Sjouke Burry) [email protected] [email protected] (Maurice Smith) [email protected] (Jacques Soddell) [email protected] (Jeff Sondeen) [email protected] [email protected] (Sascha Wildner) [email protected] (Jim Teresco) [email protected] (Terry Dexter) [email protected] [email protected] (Tom Yelton) [email protected] (Tim Frost) [email protected] (Tom Granvold) [email protected] (Tom 'The Chum' Grydeland) [email protected] (Thorn Roby) [email protected] [email protected] (Vin Sharma) [email protected] (Wayne Tvedt) [email protected] (Peter Webb) [email protected] (William Gilbert) [email protected] (Maynard Wilcox) [email protected] (Sue J. Worden) [email protected] (Jost Krieger) -- Repeal the personal income tax; vote Libertarian in 1992. Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson UUCP: ...!uunet!dsd.es.com!rthomson Rich Thomson Internet: [email protected] IRC: _Rich_ PEXt Programmer From [email protected] Thu Sep 10 20:48:56 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2711 news.groups:56425 alt.fractals:3353 comp.graphics:30506 comp.theory.dynamic-sys:1000 comp.theory.self-org-sys:347 comp.theory.cell-automata:1246 alt.config:11036 comp.compression:4606 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractals,comp.graphics,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys,comp.theory.cell-automata,alt.config,comp.compression Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Rich Thomson Subject: RESULT: sci.fractals passes 295:20 Message-ID: Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc References: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:34:25 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 366 [Please note that followups are directed to news.groups] The call for votes period has ended with a passing result for sci.fractals Unmoderated There were 295 yes votes and 20 no votes out of a total of 315 votes. This meets the Usenet requirements of at least 100 more yes votes than no votes with at least 2/3 of the total vote being yes votes. Where possible, I identified multiple votes from the same person to eliminate duplicate votes. Of the "NO" votes received, the commentary was that there wasn't enough traffic to warrant moving the group to the sci hierarchy from the alt hierarchy. However, the move from alt to sci is intended to increase traffic. Proposed Charter: The new group will not be moderated. This newsgroup will be for discussion of fractals, which have been defined as "objects of non-integral dimension". The concept ties in closely with chaos, and indeed some chaotic attractors exhibit a fractal structure. It is expected that discussions will range over a wide variety of topics relating to fractals: o the mundane Where can I find FRACTINT? o the mathematical What is the true area of the Mandelbrot set? o the practical What's all this about fractal compression? o the scientific What's the "fractal dimension" of the Rockies? While fractals were initially popularized by their representations via computer graphics techniques, the interest in fractals beyond the computer graphics and mathematical communities is growing. Dana Scott, in his Elliot Organick Memorial Lecture at the University of Utah in 1992, reported that the number of publications in the past year alone with either the word "fractal" or "chaos" in the title was over 4,000. This indicates a significant interest in these subjects in the academic world. Since this new group is intended to replace alt.fractals, I will call for the removal of alt.fractals (or its aliasing) in favor of sci.fractals after a sufficient amount of time (30 days) has passed for most sites to start carrying sci.fractals. -- Rich The following people voted "YES" for sci.fractals: "Andrew A. Chernov, Black Mage" "Christopher J. Henrich" "Dave Schaumann" "Erich E. Brumbaugh" "Geoffrey D. Bennett" "Geoffrey H. Day" "Gordon A. Sterling" "Jason D. Kridner" "John S. Novak III" "Luis G. Hernandez Ure\:a." "Michael L. Kaufman" "Nick Kline" "Robert D. Black" "daniel.offutt" "[email protected]" "robert j hinde" [email protected] (John Beimler) [email protected] (Andy Osbaldestin) Adam Justin Thornton Adrian Howard Andreas Genau Andrew Bromage Andrew Stoker Andy Gallo Andy Harp <"LISZT::harp%hermes.mod.uk"@relay.mod.uk> Antti Karttunen B.J. 12-Aug-1992 1016 [email protected] Brian B. Young Chandan Halder David McKee David Nettleton David S. Blumenthal David Sanderman [email protected] (Doug Crompton) Erik Rauch Evert Wolsheimer [email protected] Faster than a speeding bullet [email protected] (G. SAUVEBOIS) Gregor Purdy Gregory Yovanof Hendrik Boom Hi how are you Huddleston [email protected] J E H Shaw James T Graves [email protected] [email protected] (Jens Horstmann * 415-336-3537) Jeyakesavan Veerasamy Jim Kirkpatrick Jocelyn Paine John G Dobnick Jyrki Kuoppala KENELM W PHILIP Karthik P Sheka Kees van der Wal +31 70 332 6295 Keith A Gottlieb Keith Clayton Kent Murray Kevin Blaine Fluet Konrad Weigl [email protected] Laurence F Wood <[email protected]> Lee Silverman Louis Keiner Martin Schoenhacker Meinolf Asshoff Michael Robb Michael Welser Mike Zanker [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] PERSSON ERIK DEWITT Paddy Johnson CIRT Paul Guertin Paul Palmer Peter Cahoon Peter Edwards Philip J. Nesser Porsupah RAVEN%[email protected] Ralf Stephan Randy J. Ray Rekha Suryanarayana Richard Freytag Rick Speer Rik Fleuren Robert Reinstatler Robert Roy Hentzel [email protected] (Bob Uomini) Roger Phillips Ronald Joe Record Ryan Bayne Sam Laur Seth Leichter Simon Simona Rusnak Steve Yaros Stig Hemmer Sven Wachter Taj Khattra Tak Thomas Bogenschuetz Thomas Gramstad Tom Crossland Tommy Vaske Udo Sprute Venkata Goli Vlachopoulos Panagiotis Warren Kafer Yiannis Ventikos [email protected] (Sunil Acharya) [email protected] (Alexander Horn) [email protected] (Aaron Malver) [email protected] (Andrew Pochinsky) [email protected] (Anders Emil Olsen) [email protected] (William Zimmerman) [email protected] (Kenichi Arakawa) [email protected] (Andy Rao ) [email protected] [email protected] (Andrew Steiner) [email protected] [email protected] (Beth Schwindt) [email protected] (Bob Clystenmeier) [email protected] (Bob Schaugaard) [email protected] (Don Brutzman) [email protected] (Bryan Thompson) [email protected] (Jeff Epler) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Adam Chalcraft) [email protected] (Christopher Hardin) [email protected] (Cheryl A. F. Stewart) [email protected] [email protected] (R. Cliff Young) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Peter Coveney) [email protected] (Hans Crauel) [email protected] (Great Rumpuscat) [email protected]@fox.nstn.ns.ca [email protected] (Christopher M. Cohen) [email protected] [email protected] (Daniel Boulet) [email protected] (Dan Jacobson) [email protected] (Dave McAllister) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David DeBry) [email protected] (doug degroot) [email protected] (Derek Wright) [email protected] (Dave Joyce) [email protected] (John Sadowsky x6211) [email protected] [email protected] (Dave Wiseman) [email protected] [email protected] (Earl F. Glynn) [email protected] (Ellis Arrondo) [email protected] [email protected] (Edward Vielmetti) [email protected] (Eric Meyer) [email protected] (Erick Bryce Wong) [email protected] (Eugene N. Miya) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Frampton) [email protected] (Frank Horowitz) [email protected] [email protected] (bastin gary 60293) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (William F. Hammond) [email protected] ( David Harris) [email protected] (Stephan Heilmayr) [email protected] [email protected] (Robert Hood) [email protected] (Henry Greenside) [email protected] [email protected] (Greg Huber) [email protected] (Edward J. Huff) [email protected] (Jeff Harrington) intro%@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (temporary login) j p openshaw [email protected] (Jeff A Breidenbach) [email protected] (John C. Peterson) [email protected] (Pletinckx Jurgen) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Insley) [email protected] (Jon Kogut) [email protected] (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Atkinson) [email protected] (James Durkin) [email protected] (John Locke) [email protected] (Keith Anthony) [email protected] (Katharina Baumann) kattenberg [email protected] (Mehmet M. Kayaalp MD) [email protected] (Kim DeVaughn) [email protected] [email protected] (Kevin Allen) [email protected] (Krishna Garimella ~) [email protected] (A. Joseph Koshy) [email protected] (Kim T Constantikes) [email protected] (Kurt Cockrm 762-6417) [email protected] (Patty LaBelle) [email protected] (Lyle Lexier) [email protected] (Philip Yzarn de Louraill [email protected] (Magnus Starseth) [email protected] (lloyd mitchell) [email protected] (Michael A. Neuhauser) [email protected] [email protected] (martin fallon) [email protected] (Jan-Oliver Neumann) [email protected] (Michael Baker) [email protected] (Matt Kennel) [email protected] (Mark Burton) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Martin Czigler x3159) [email protected] (Mark Foltz) [email protected] (Michael I Angerman) [email protected] (Mitch Silverman) [email protected] (Tom Moser) [email protected] (Mike Pheil) [email protected] [email protected] (Mikko Tsokkinen) [email protected] [email protected] (Nick Ivanov) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (L. A. Oldroyd) [email protected] (OS-9 User Group) [email protected] (Ossip Kaehr) [email protected] (Carlo Misiak) parksoft!dave (David Hendrix) [email protected] (pc) [email protected] (Phil Howard ) [email protected] (Peter Couvares) [email protected] (Scott Perry) [email protected] (Philippe Grant 514-341-7106) [email protected] (Christopher Phillips) [email protected] (Simon Plouffe) [email protected] [email protected] (ron nelson) [email protected] (ROBERT LAUMEYER) [email protected] (Nate Rockwell) [email protected] (Romik Dan) [email protected] [email protected] (Rui Soto Marta) [email protected] (R.S. Srinivasan) [email protected] [email protected] (g v ruman) [email protected] (SAGA/SGBDR diversos ) [email protected] (Samuel Murphy) [email protected] (Steven C. Dollins) [email protected] (Harald Schmidt) [email protected] (Scott Huddleston) [email protected] (Mark Seligman) [email protected] (Attacking Deep Structure) [email protected] (Bill Shirley [CSC]) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Sjouke Burry) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Maurice Smith) [email protected] (Jacques Soddell) [email protected] [email protected] (Jeff Sondeen) [email protected] [email protected] (Sascha Wildner) [email protected] (Jim Teresco) [email protected] (Terry Dexter) [email protected] [email protected] (Tom Yelton) [email protected] (Tim Frost) [email protected] (Tom 'The Chum' Grydeland) [email protected] (Thorn Roby) [email protected] (Steve Snyder) [email protected] [email protected] (Vin Sharma) [email protected] (Wayne Tvedt) [email protected] (Peter Webb) [email protected] (William Gilbert) [email protected] (Maynard Wilcox) [email protected] (Warren Jennings) [email protected] (Sue J. Worden) [email protected] (Jost Krieger) The following people voted "NO" for sci.fractals: "Eric J. Olson" "Howard Wachtel (312) 975-7970" "S. Wukovitz" Bob Knighten Boris Hemkemeier Danielle Bercel Doug Young Dr. Mario Hilgemeier Greg Lindahl Sven Heinicke [email protected] (Claude Huss) [email protected] (David Sirag) [email protected] (Eric Majani) [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury) matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay) [email protected] (David M. Read) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Richard Kulawiec) [email protected] (Tom Granvold)