From [email protected] Fri Jul 2 13:09:02 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Shag) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos Subject: RFD: comp.os.geos.* hierarchy Followup-To: news.groups Date: 2 Jul 1993 10:33:11 -0400 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 104 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3740 news.groups:75465 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:4531 This is the official CFD (Call for Discussion) of the creation of a new hierarchy and subgroups within that hierarchy, to better distribute and broaden the topics now covered in the newsgroup comp.os.msdos.pcgeos. PROPOSED HIERARCHY: comp.os.geos.* PROPOSED GROUPS: comp.os.geos {or comp.os.geos.misc} Unmoderated comp.os.geos.bugs Unmoderated comp.os.geos.announce Moderated(?) comp.os.geos.binaries {or comp.binaries.geos} Unmoderated comp.os.geos.programmer Unmoderated BACKGROUND AND RATIONALE: For some time, the group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos has been in use. This name is a bit misleading in my opinion, since it portrays GEOS as merely an application set which runs under MSDOS, rather than an entire operating environment/system. In the past, I have discussed the idea of getting a full hierarchy for the GEOS operating system with a representative of GeoWorks, and at that point in time, he suggested waiting until v2.0 of the software shipped. 2.0 has now been released as an upgrade for current users, and the bandwidth and topic spread of comp.os.msdos.pcgeos have been increasing quite a bit. Therefore, I feel the time has come to propose the hierarchy. CHARTERS: comp.os.geos {or comp.os.geos.misc} (unmoderated) will be a newsgrop for general discussion of GEOS-based products from GeoWorks (Berkeley, CA) and their associated third-party vendors. Discussion topics would thus include GeoWorks Ensemble (1.0, 1.2, 2.0), GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's applications, America Online, Palm and Intuit's applications for the forthcoming Zoomer platform, and any other GEOS-related topics. I personally expect that "tweaks" will be a popular topic, as the current group includes a lot of discussion of ways to make GEOS act the way you want it to. More specific groups would exist under the hierarchy, as follows: comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for the discussion of "undocumented features" found in GEOS-based products. This would include postings along the lines of "if you do this, you get that error," of course, and also less crucial ones such as "this worked differentlyin the last release, what happened?" comp.os.geos.announce (moderated?) will be a newsgroup for the announcement of GEOS-based products and related products. This would include any new releases by GeoWorks, any new releases by third-party vendors for the GEOS operating system, and any announcements relating to the Casio/Tandy Zoomer PDA. I believe this group will become very useful in the next few months, as the public release of 2.0, the introduction of the Zoomer, and the first big wave of third-party support should all hit early this fall. I'm not sure whether this group would best be moderated by a representative of GeoWorks or an independent user of the system, and a representative of GeoWorks told me he doesn't think the traffic will be high enough initially to warrant a moderator, thus the question-mark. comp.os.geos.binaries {or comp.binaries.geos} (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for the posting of UUencoded binaries for use with the GEOS operating system. This would include any free or shareware applications, document templates, screen backgrounds, clip-art, non-ASCII informational files, et cetera. As some people have already begun posting binaries to the existing group (much to the chagrin of our resident GeoWorker), I suspect this would be a good group to get started pronto. comp.os.geos.programmer (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for discussion of matters pertaining to writing software for the GEOS operating system. As the GEOS Software Development Kit and Device Driver Development Kit are yet in beta testing, this group would be somewhat quiet, at first. However, the SDK _documentation_ is available, and those of us who have it (myself included) would probably appreciate having the space to discuss it, and others could read and learn along with us. SUMMARY: In summary, a new hierarchy with subgroups would better serve the GEOS community, both now, as topics and bandwidth have just begun to increase, and in the future, as the increase accelerates. Renaming the hierarchy would also clarify GEOS's position as an operating environment/system. CFV: Calls for votes will begin in about a month (late July of 1993). I expect that there will be one initial call for votes, for the comp.os.geos group (thus creating the hierarchy) and then, if the first CFV passes, a set of individual CFV's for the subgroups in late August. This allows enough time to get the hierarchy configured before the anticipated explosive growth in late September or early October. DISCUSSION: Discussion of the proposed groups should be held on news.groups. Note that the Followup-To: line of this article will direct any followups to news.groups automatically. Feel free to re-post this article to other newsgroups whose readers might find it of interest, as long as the Followup-To: line remains directed to news.groups. ----- -Shag From [email protected] Wed Aug 4 10:24:40 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen Subject: CFV: comp.os.geos Followup-To: poster Date: 4 Aug 1993 09:01:56 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers...The Knights Who Say ACK! Lines: 59 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3911 news.groups:78099 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5035 comp.sys.palmtops:8401 comp.sys.pen:2102 CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 3) Unmoderated group comp.os.geos Newsgroups line: The GEOS operating system and related products Votes must be recieved by 3 Sep 1993, 23:59 UT. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only, contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group, contact Shag . CHARTER Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley, CA), their associated third-party development partners, and independent software vendors. GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles. All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS. These include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble 1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games, America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others, configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and "undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to developing software for GEOS. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.os.geos or I vote NO on comp.os.geos You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain" vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no". Additional CFVs will include mass acks. Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per account). 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation. -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can [email protected] | adequately be explained by stupidity. "iHaTeX." -- Andrew Burt From [email protected] Thu Aug 12 14:18:25 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.geos Followup-To: poster Date: 12 Aug 1993 13:39:04 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers...The Knights Who Say ACK! Lines: 173 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3937 news.groups:78554 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5309 comp.sys.palmtops:8525 comp.sys.pen:2467 CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 3) Unmoderated group comp.os.geos Newsgroups line: The GEOS operating system and related products Votes must be recieved by 3 Sep 1993, 23:59 UT. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only, contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group, contact Shag . CHARTER Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley, CA), their associated third-party development partners, and independent software vendors. GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles. All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS. These include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble 1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games, America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others, configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and "undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to developing software for GEOS. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.os.geos or I vote NO on comp.os.geos You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. Please don't include a copy of this whole message; I already have one, and it confuses the vote counting program (since it includes both YES and NO votes on the group). If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain" vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no". Additional CFVs will include mass acks. Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per account). 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS The standard mass ack follows. All of these folks, with the exception of [email protected] (who has a badly misconfigured mailer which entered a routing loop when I tried), have been emailed an individual ack for their vote as well. comp.os.geos group vote Mass Ack [email protected] Aaron Williams [email protected] Ain McKendrick [email protected] Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a [email protected] Andrzej (A.) Bieszczad [email protected] Andrew Finkenstadt BAILEY%[email protected] SSDVAX::BAILEY [email protected] Kenneth R. Ballou [email protected] Joey Baumgartner [email protected] J. Kintscher [email protected] Craig Leonard Bennett [email protected] Robert F. Benningfield [email protected] Shag [email protected] B.J. Herbison [email protected] Jeffrey D. Angus bruce-f%[email protected] [email protected] bruno,samuel p [email protected] Eric Hunt [email protected] Chris Hall [email protected] Chuck Musciano [email protected] Chung Liu [email protected] The Analog Kid [email protected] [email protected] Bruce Davis [email protected] David Beck [email protected] David Lee [email protected] Dennis K. Sun [email protected] Ed McGuire [email protected] Fred A Dickey [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Geoffrey M. Ghose [email protected] [email protected] Greg Lindahl [email protected] [email protected] Gerald Reno [email protected] Greg Darnell [email protected] Brennan T. Price [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] hassan%physio%[email protected] Aslam Hassan [email protected] Michael Hirsch [email protected] Bill Jaeger [email protected] [email protected] John C. Lusth [email protected] Jeffrey Frey [email protected] Jeff Odum [email protected] Jerry Han [email protected] Jim Reiss [email protected] James LaRue [email protected] Jim Morris [email protected] John D. Mitchell [email protected] Josh P Hendrix [email protected] Kevin Junck [email protected] Jun Yang [email protected] Hawke [email protected] Ralph Knapp [email protected] [email protected] Andrew Leahy [email protected] Hokh'Ton [email protected] maurice [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] David Muir Sharnoff [email protected] Christopher G Mullin [email protected] Naren Bala [email protected] Philip Hurley [email protected] Payson [email protected] Phil Franklin [email protected] Patrick T Curley [email protected] Paul E. Hoffman pseudo!mjn Murray Nesbitt [email protected] Michael J. Quinn [email protected] Richard Clayton [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Rick Mundwiler [email protected] Richard King [email protected] Ron Boerger [email protected] Rob Zachman [email protected] Richard Tomasso x3061 [email protected] [email protected] Howard Houston [email protected] Donald Simard [email protected] [email protected] Smarasderagd Draco [email protected] Lonnie Smith [email protected] Mike Mustaine [email protected] Andrew Solovay [email protected] Scott R. Johnson [email protected] Steve Rogers [email protected] Steve Piner [email protected] Stewart Willsher [email protected] Ted Cantrall [email protected] THOMAS HABERLAND [email protected] Larry Twigg [email protected] tom mckibben 2 [email protected] Greg Shymko [email protected] Richard Wagner [email protected] Wagner Michael [email protected] Bruce Ward [email protected] Segura William C [email protected] Wendy S. Reynolds-Abate [email protected] John MacWilliamson [email protected] MICHAEL WISE -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can [email protected] | adequately be explained by stupidity. "Doesn't the sound of two Telebits synchronizing remind you of a cat tossing up a fur ball?" -- Jan Isley From [email protected] Tue Aug 24 17:15:02 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.geos Followup-To: poster Date: 24 Aug 1993 13:59:52 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers...The Knights Who Say ACK! Lines: 224 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3971 news.groups:79878 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5388 comp.sys.palmtops:8846 comp.sys.pen:3046 CALL FOR VOTES (3rd of 3) Unmoderated group comp.os.geos Newsgroups line: The GEOS operating system and related products Votes must be recieved by 3 Sep 1993, 23:59 UT. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only, contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group, contact Shag . CHARTER Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley, CA), their associated third-party development partners, and independent software vendors. GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles. All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS. These include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble 1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games, America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others, configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and "undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to developing software for GEOS. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.os.geos or I vote NO on comp.os.geos You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. Please don't include a copy of this whole message; I already have one, and it confuses the vote counting program (since it includes both YES and NO votes on the group). If you later change your mind you may also send in an "abstain" vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no". Additional CFVs will include mass acks. Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per account). 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation. Valid votes from the following people have been received as of midnight UTC, 23 August 1993: comp.os.geos group vote Mass Ack [email protected] Aaron Williams [email protected] Ain McKendrick [email protected] Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a [email protected] Andrzej (A.) Bieszczad [email protected] Andrew Finkenstadt [email protected] BAILEY%[email protected] SSDVAX::BAILEY [email protected] Bill Baker [email protected] Kenneth R. Ballou [email protected] Joey Baumgartner [email protected] J. Kintscher [email protected] Craig Leonard Bennett [email protected] Robert F. Benningfield [email protected] Shag [email protected] B.J. Herbison bruce-f%[email protected] [email protected] bruno,samuel p [email protected] Eric Hunt [email protected] David Loftesness [email protected] Ronald Braunstein [email protected] Frank Bull/Gemini 8m [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Chris Hall [email protected] Christopher JeanRichard [email protected] Chuck Musciano [email protected] Chung Liu [email protected] j.forssell [email protected] The Analog Kid [email protected] [email protected] Joseph Z. Provo [email protected] Chuck Shepherd [email protected] Charles Yong Choi [email protected] Dave Chalmers [email protected] Bruce Davis [email protected] David Beck [email protected] David Gould [email protected] David Lee DLN4300%[email protected] [email protected] Fred Douglis [email protected] Dennis K. Sun [email protected] Renard Du Bois [email protected] Ed Cox [email protected] Ed McGuire [email protected] Fred A Dickey [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Hardcore Alaskan [email protected] Geoffrey M. Ghose [email protected] [email protected] Greg Lindahl [email protected] [email protected] Gerald Reno [email protected] Greg Darnell [email protected] Kent Radek [email protected] Geoffrey Spear [email protected] Brennan T. Price [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Lars S Halvorsen [email protected] hassan%physio%[email protected] Aslam Hassan [email protected] Michael Hirsch [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Bill Jaeger [email protected] [email protected] Jeffrey D. Angus [email protected] James W. Barr [email protected] John C. Lusth [email protected] Jeffrey Frey [email protected] Jeff Odum [email protected] [email protected] Jerry Han [email protected] Jim Reiss [email protected] James LaRue [email protected] Jim Morris [email protected] John D. Mitchell [email protected] Joshua R. Prismon [email protected] Josh P Hendrix [email protected] John Boardman [email protected] Julian Macassey [email protected] Kevin Junck [email protected] Jun Yang [email protected] Kris Caputa [email protected] [email protected] Hawke [email protected] Ralph Knapp [email protected] [email protected] Andrew Leahy [email protected] Mark Luetzelschwab [email protected] Malcolm Williamson [email protected] [email protected] Hokh'Ton merk!uvmark!todd Todd Cooper [email protected] Mishel Matloubian x6015 [email protected] maurice [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] Michael Paleczny [email protected] David Muir Sharnoff [email protected] Christopher G Mullin [email protected] Dirk Muysers [email protected] Matthias Welk [email protected] Naren Bala [email protected] Philip Hurley [email protected] Bill Parke [email protected] Pat Berry [email protected] Payson [email protected] Phil Franklin [email protected] Patrick T Curley [email protected] Paul E. Hoffman [email protected] pseudo!mjn Murray Nesbitt [email protected] Michael J. Quinn [email protected] [email protected] Richard Clayton [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Rick Mundwiler [email protected] Richard King [email protected] Roger Flores [email protected] Ron Boerger [email protected] Rob Zachman [email protected] Richard Tomasso x3061 [email protected] [email protected] Russell Schulz [email protected] Bruce Tindall [email protected] Howard Houston [email protected] Irvin Shizgal [email protected] Donald Simard [email protected] [email protected] Smarasderagd Draco [email protected] Lonnie Smith [email protected] Mike Mustaine [email protected] Andrew Solovay [email protected] [email protected] Scott R. Johnson [email protected] Steve Rogers [email protected] Steve Piner [email protected] Stewart Willsher [email protected] Sven M. Heinicke [email protected] [email protected] Ted Cantrall [email protected] Terry Chlebek [email protected] THOMAS HABERLAND [email protected] Larry Twigg [email protected] Tyler Gingrich [email protected] tom mckibben 2 [email protected] Greg Shymko [email protected] Richard Wagner [email protected] Wagner Michael [email protected] Bruce Ward [email protected] Wayne Garmil [email protected] Segura William C [email protected] Wendy S. Reynolds-Abate [email protected] John MacWilliamson [email protected] John Wilson [email protected] MICHAEL WISE -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can [email protected] | adequately be explained by stupidity. "Doesn't the sound of two Telebits synchronizing remind you of a cat tossing up a fur ball?" -- Jan Isley From [email protected] Wed Sep 8 19:42:51 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen Subject: RESULT: comp.os.geos passes 180:33 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Sep 1993 16:26:35 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers...The Knights Who Say ACK! Lines: 261 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4633 news.groups:81097 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5537 comp.sys.palmtops:9287 comp.sys.pen:3496 comp.os.geos group vote results - 214 votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 180 33 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.geos Newsgroups line: The GEOS operating system and related products This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only, contact [email protected]. For questions about the group, contact Shag . CHARTER Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley, CA), their associated third-party development partners, and independent software vendors. GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles. All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS. These include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble 1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games, America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others, configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and "undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to developing software for GEOS. comp.os.geos group vote Final Vote Ack Yes Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Matthew W. Bartle [email protected] Aaron Williams [email protected] Ain McKendrick [email protected] Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a [email protected] Andrzej (A.) Bieszczad [email protected] Anthony J Stieber [email protected] BAILEY%[email protected] SSDVAX::BAILEY [email protected] Bill Baker [email protected] Kenneth R. Ballou [email protected] Dave Batchelor, Space Phys. Data Facil. 301/ [email protected] Joey Baumgartner [email protected] J. Kintscher [email protected] Craig Leonard Bennett [email protected] Robert F. Benningfield [email protected] Nicholas O. Lindan [email protected] Shag [email protected] B.J. Herbison [email protected] Bruce A. Moon bruce-f%[email protected] [email protected] bruno,samuel p [email protected] Eric Hunt [email protected] Bryan Chow [email protected] David Loftesness [email protected] Ronald Braunstein [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] brian catlin [email protected] Charlie Solomon [email protected] Chee Woo Leong [email protected] Chris Hall [email protected] Christopher JeanRichard [email protected] Chua Hak Lien [email protected] Chuck Musciano [email protected] Chung Liu [email protected] Corey Kelts [email protected] j.forssell [email protected] [email protected] The Analog Kid [email protected] [email protected] Calvin D. Swartzentruber [email protected] Chuck Shepherd [email protected] Charles Yong Choi [email protected] Dave Chalmers [email protected] David (D.J.) Villeneuve [email protected] Bruce Davis [email protected] David Beck [email protected] Dean Edwards [email protected] David Gould [email protected] Dale Newton [email protected] David Lee DLN4300%[email protected] [email protected] Fred Douglis [email protected] Charles L. Stewart III [email protected] douglas shields [email protected] Dennis K. Sun [email protected] Renard Du Bois [email protected] Christopher M. Dumler [email protected] Ed Cox [email protected] Fred A Dickey [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Hardcore Alaskan [email protected] [email protected] Gregory Conerly [email protected] Geoffrey M. Ghose [email protected] Gideon King [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Gerald Reno [email protected] Greg Darnell [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Lars S Halvorsen [email protected] hassan%physio%[email protected] Aslam Hassan [email protected] Herman Yan [email protected] Michael Hirsch [email protected] Kurt Hunter [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Bill Jaeger [email protected] [email protected] James W. Barr [email protected] John C. Lusth [email protected] Jeffrey Frey [email protected] Jeff Odum [email protected] [email protected] Jerry Han [email protected] Jim Reiss [email protected] [email protected] James LaRue [email protected] Jim Morris [email protected] [email protected] John D. Mitchell [email protected] Daniel Jones [email protected] Joshua R. Prismon [email protected] Josh P Hendrix [email protected] John Boardman [email protected] Jun Yang [email protected] [email protected] Kris Caputa [email protected] [email protected] Hawke [email protected] Ralph Knapp [email protected] [email protected] Andrew Leahy [email protected] Mark Luetzelschwab [email protected] Malcolm Williamson [email protected] [email protected] Mark D. McDonald [email protected] Hokh'Ton merk!uvmark!todd Todd Cooper [email protected] Mishel Matloubian x6015 [email protected] maurice [email protected] Michael Paleczny [email protected] Mark Philip Barry [email protected] David Muir Sharnoff [email protected] Christopher G Mullin [email protected] Dirk Muysers [email protected] Matthias Welk [email protected] Philip Hurley [email protected] Bill Parke [email protected] [email protected] Pat Berry [email protected] Payson [email protected] Phil Franklin [email protected] Patrick T Curley [email protected] Andrew Peed [email protected] Paul E. Hoffman [email protected] [email protected] Michael J. Quinn [email protected] [email protected] Richard Clayton [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Rick Mundwiler [email protected] Ross J Reedstrom [email protected] Richard King [email protected] Roger Flores [email protected] Rob Zachman [email protected] Richard Tomasso x3061 [email protected] [email protected] Russell Schulz [email protected] Bruce Tindall [email protected] Howard Houston [email protected] Irvin Shizgal [email protected] Donald Simard [email protected] [email protected] Lonnie Smith [email protected] Mike Mustaine [email protected] [email protected] Scott R. Johnson [email protected] Steve Piner [email protected] Stewart Willsher [email protected] Michael Stoeckler [email protected] [email protected] Todd Alexander Stauffer [email protected] Ted Cantrall [email protected] Terry Chlebek [email protected] THOMAS HABERLAND [email protected] Timothy Fairclough [email protected] Thomas V Torrico [email protected] Larry Twigg [email protected] Tyler Gingrich [email protected] tom mckibben 2 [email protected] Greg Shymko [email protected] [email protected] Wayne Lun [email protected] Vincent Lue [email protected] Larry Vogt [email protected] Wagner Michael [email protected] Bruce Ward [email protected] Wayne Garmil [email protected] Segura William C [email protected] Wendy S. Reynolds-Abate [email protected] William F. Smith [email protected] Wayne S Garmil [email protected] John Wilson [email protected] MICHAEL WISE No Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Andrew Finkenstadt [email protected] Frank Bull/Gemini 8m [email protected] Po Shan Cheah [email protected] Joseph Z. Provo [email protected] Dave Archer [email protected] Ed McGuire [email protected] Kent Radek [email protected] Geoffrey Spear [email protected] Brennan T. Price [email protected] [email protected] Jeffrey D. Angus [email protected] Julian Macassey [email protected] Kevin Junck [email protected] Chris Maxwell [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] Naren Bala pseudo!mjn Murray Nesbitt [email protected] Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri [email protected] Rudi Ferrari [email protected] Richard Jennings [email protected] Ron Boerger [email protected] Ryan Bayne [email protected] [email protected] Shane Hartman [email protected] Smarasderagd Draco [email protected] Andrew Solovay [email protected] [email protected] Steve Rogers [email protected] Sven M. Heinicke [email protected] Todd E. Sternisha [email protected] Richard Wagner [email protected] John MacWilliamson [email protected] Yousuf Khan -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can [email protected] | adequately be explained by stupidity. "I liked [OS/2] so much, in fact, that I went to work for the company. I couldn't afford to buy it." -- Steve Withers