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Subject: RFD:  soc.culture.jewish reorganization
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This is the initial Request For Discussion (RFD) about reorganizing 
soc.culture.jewish into a number of separate newsgroups in order to
better address the diversity of subjects and the needs of the readers
currently served by the one newsgroup.

PROPOSED NEWSGROUPS:
===================

soc.culture.israel		Internal Israeli subjects (other than politics)

soc.culture.jewish.american	Internal issues for American Jews

soc.religion.jewish		Religious issues for all Jews

talk.politics.israel		Internal Israeli politics (general)

talk.politics.israel.intifada	Internal Israeli politics (Jewish/Arab)


PRELIMINARY CHARTERS:
====================

soc.culture.israel:		To discuss and share information about
				things Israeli taking place in Israel
				and abroad. Music, art, theatre, dance,
				cooking, movies, sports, literature, and
				job information are all examples of
				subjects for this newsgroup.

soc.culture.jewish.american:	To discuss and share information about
				Judaism and the Jewish experience in the
				United States of America. Xmas, Easter, AIDS,
				drug-use, where to live, and where to find
				kosher food are all examples of subjects
				for this newsgroup.

soc.religion.jewish:		To discuss and share information about the
				Jewish religion. Orthodox, Conservative,
				Reform (as well as anywhere to the right,
				left, or in-between of these reference 
				points).

talk.politics.israel:		To discuss and share information about 
				general internal Israeli politics. Direct
				elections for the Prime Minister/K'nesset
				representatives, old/new/blue laws, etc. 
				are all examples of subjects for this 
				newsgroup.

talk.politics.israel.intifada:	To discuss and share information about 
				internal Israeli politics with regard to 
				Jewish/Arab relations.


PROPOSED STATUS:		all newsgroups unmoderated
===============


RATIONALES:	
==========			

soc.religion.jewish

				Judaism is a religion. Regardless of the
				differences between Orthodox, Conservative,
				Reform, and other paths, Judaism remains,
				first and foremost, a religion. The Jewish
				religion exists, and is the same, despite
				and without regard to geographic borders
				and ethnic differences. As such, there
				exists a definite need for a newsgroup
				which is devoted *entirely* and *solely*
				to the Jewish religion.


soc.culture.israel
soc.culture.jewish.american

				Conversely, although Judaism exists in both
				Israel and America, it is a religion, and
				not a culture, and does not address the
				day-to-day experiences of those living in
				either locale. As such, there also exists a
				definite need for two separate newsgroups
				which are devoted *entirely* and *solely*
				to the cultural and daily experiential needs
				of Israelis and Jewish-Americans.

				
talk.politics.israel
talk.politics.israel.intifada

				Finally, the politics of the State of Israel
				are (although a subset of them) distinctly
				different from those of the greater Middle-
				Eastern area, and the politics of the `intifada'
				are, in turn, both a subset of and distinctly
				different from the politics of Israel. As such,
				there exists a definite need for two separate
				newsgroups which are devoted *entirely* and
				*solely* [one] to the specific internal
				Israeli issues of the intifada, and [one] to
				the more general internal issues of Israeli
				politics.

There will be a second RFD (Request for Discussion) posted 
2 weeks from today, incorporating suggestions from the initial
2-week period.

A CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted 30 days from now, on Rosh
Hodesh Adar I (4 February 1992). 

Please direct all discussion to news.groups, and please direct
all flames to /dev/null.
-- 
      Jonathan B. Horen | Tel: (415) 856-8000 | If Karen Carpenter and Mama
    TechWriter/SysAdmin | FAX: (415) 941-8943 | Cass had only shared that 
   Renaissance Software | email: [email protected] | ham sandwich, they would 
175 S. San Antonio Road | Los Altos, CA 94022 | both be alive today. 

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Status: RO
X-Status: 

This is the initial Request For Discussion (RFD) about reorganizing 
soc.culture.jewish into a number of separate newsgroups in order to
better address the diversity of subjects and the needs of the readers
currently served by the one newsgroup.

PROPOSED NEWSGROUPS:
===================

soc.culture.israel		Internal Israeli subjects (other than politics)

soc.culture.jewish.american	Internal issues for American Jews

soc.religion.jewish		Religious issues for all Jews

talk.politics.israel		Internal Israeli politics (general)

talk.politics.israel.intifada	Internal Israeli politics (Jewish/Arab)


PRELIMINARY CHARTERS:
====================

soc.culture.israel:		To discuss and share information about
				things Israeli taking place in Israel
				and abroad. Music, art, theatre, dance,
				cooking, movies, sports, literature, and
				job information are all examples of
				subjects for this newsgroup.

soc.culture.jewish.american:	To discuss and share information about
				Judaism and the Jewish experience in the
				United States of America. Xmas, Easter, AIDS,
				drug-use, where to live, and where to find
				kosher food are all examples of subjects
				for this newsgroup.

soc.religion.jewish:		To discuss and share information about the
				Jewish religion. Orthodox, Conservative,
				Reform (as well as anywhere to the right,
				left, or in-between of these reference 
				points).

talk.politics.israel:		To discuss and share information about 
				general internal Israeli politics. Direct
				elections for the Prime Minister/K'nesset
				representatives, old/new/blue laws, etc. 
				are all examples of subjects for this 
				newsgroup.

talk.politics.israel.intifada:	To discuss and share information about 
				internal Israeli politics with regard to 
				Jewish/Arab relations.


PROPOSED STATUS:		all newsgroups unmoderated
===============


RATIONALES:	
==========			

soc.religion.jewish

				Judaism is a religion. Regardless of the
				differences between Orthodox, Conservative,
				Reform, and other paths, Judaism remains,
				first and foremost, a religion. The Jewish
				religion exists, and is the same, despite
				and without regard to geographic borders
				and ethnic differences. As such, there
				exists a definite need for a newsgroup
				which is devoted *entirely* and *solely*
				to the Jewish religion.


soc.culture.israel
soc.culture.jewish.american

				Conversely, although Judaism exists in both
				Israel and America, it is a religion, and
				not a culture, and does not address the
				day-to-day experiences of those living in
				either locale. As such, there also exists a
				definite need for two separate newsgroups
				which are devoted *entirely* and *solely*
				to the cultural and daily experiential needs
				of Israelis and Jewish-Americans.

				
talk.politics.israel
talk.politics.israel.intifada

				Finally, the politics of the State of Israel
				are (although a subset of them) distinctly
				different from those of the greater Middle-
				Eastern area, and the politics of the `intifada'
				are, in turn, both a subset of and distinctly
				different from the politics of Israel. As such,
				there exists a definite need for two separate
				newsgroups which are devoted *entirely* and
				*solely* [one] to the specific internal
				Israeli issues of the intifada, and [one] to
				the more general internal issues of Israeli
				politics.

There will be a second RFD (Request for Discussion) posted 
2 weeks from today, incorporating suggestions from the initial
2-week period.

A CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted 30 days from now, on Rosh
Hodesh Adar I (4 February 1992). 

Please direct all discussion to news.groups, and please direct
all flames to /dev/null.
-- 
      Jonathan B. Horen | Tel: (415) 856-8000 | If Karen Carpenter and Mama
    TechWriter/SysAdmin | FAX: (415) 941-8943 | Cass had only shared that 
   Renaissance Software | email: [email protected] | ham sandwich, they would 
175 S. San Antonio Road | Los Altos, CA 94022 | both be alive today.