From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 02:42:28 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1724 news.groups:36981 soc.culture.jewish:26012 ba.israelis:48 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.jewish,ba.israelis Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jonathan B. Horen) Subject: RFD: soc.culture.jewish reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc. Date: 8 Jan 92 05:29:23 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 119 This is the initial Request For Discussion (RFD) about reorganizing soc.culture.jewish into a number of separate newsgroups in order to better address the diversity of subjects and the needs of the readers currently served by the one newsgroup. PROPOSED NEWSGROUPS: =================== soc.culture.israel Internal Israeli subjects (other than politics) soc.culture.jewish.american Internal issues for American Jews soc.religion.jewish Religious issues for all Jews talk.politics.israel Internal Israeli politics (general) talk.politics.israel.intifada Internal Israeli politics (Jewish/Arab) PRELIMINARY CHARTERS: ==================== soc.culture.israel: To discuss and share information about things Israeli taking place in Israel and abroad. Music, art, theatre, dance, cooking, movies, sports, literature, and job information are all examples of subjects for this newsgroup. soc.culture.jewish.american: To discuss and share information about Judaism and the Jewish experience in the United States of America. Xmas, Easter, AIDS, drug-use, where to live, and where to find kosher food are all examples of subjects for this newsgroup. soc.religion.jewish: To discuss and share information about the Jewish religion. Orthodox, Conservative, Reform (as well as anywhere to the right, left, or in-between of these reference points). talk.politics.israel: To discuss and share information about general internal Israeli politics. Direct elections for the Prime Minister/K'nesset representatives, old/new/blue laws, etc. are all examples of subjects for this newsgroup. talk.politics.israel.intifada: To discuss and share information about internal Israeli politics with regard to Jewish/Arab relations. PROPOSED STATUS: all newsgroups unmoderated =============== RATIONALES: ========== soc.religion.jewish Judaism is a religion. Regardless of the differences between Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and other paths, Judaism remains, first and foremost, a religion. The Jewish religion exists, and is the same, despite and without regard to geographic borders and ethnic differences. As such, there exists a definite need for a newsgroup which is devoted *entirely* and *solely* to the Jewish religion. soc.culture.israel soc.culture.jewish.american Conversely, although Judaism exists in both Israel and America, it is a religion, and not a culture, and does not address the day-to-day experiences of those living in either locale. As such, there also exists a definite need for two separate newsgroups which are devoted *entirely* and *solely* to the cultural and daily experiential needs of Israelis and Jewish-Americans. talk.politics.israel talk.politics.israel.intifada Finally, the politics of the State of Israel are (although a subset of them) distinctly different from those of the greater Middle- Eastern area, and the politics of the `intifada' are, in turn, both a subset of and distinctly different from the politics of Israel. As such, there exists a definite need for two separate newsgroups which are devoted *entirely* and *solely* [one] to the specific internal Israeli issues of the intifada, and [one] to the more general internal issues of Israeli politics. There will be a second RFD (Request for Discussion) posted 2 weeks from today, incorporating suggestions from the initial 2-week period. A CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted 30 days from now, on Rosh Hodesh Adar I (4 February 1992). Please direct all discussion to news.groups, and please direct all flames to /dev/null. -- Jonathan B. Horen | Tel: (415) 856-8000 | If Karen Carpenter and Mama TechWriter/SysAdmin | FAX: (415) 941-8943 | Cass had only shared that Renaissance Software | email: [email protected] | ham sandwich, they would 175 S. San Antonio Road | Los Altos, CA 94022 | both be alive today. From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:42:37 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1724 news.groups:36981 soc.culture.jewish:26012 ba.israelis:48 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.jewish,ba.israelis Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jonathan B. Horen) Subject: RFD: soc.culture.jewish reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc. Date: 8 Jan 92 05:29:23 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 119 Status: RO X-Status: This is the initial Request For Discussion (RFD) about reorganizing soc.culture.jewish into a number of separate newsgroups in order to better address the diversity of subjects and the needs of the readers currently served by the one newsgroup. PROPOSED NEWSGROUPS: =================== soc.culture.israel Internal Israeli subjects (other than politics) soc.culture.jewish.american Internal issues for American Jews soc.religion.jewish Religious issues for all Jews talk.politics.israel Internal Israeli politics (general) talk.politics.israel.intifada Internal Israeli politics (Jewish/Arab) PRELIMINARY CHARTERS: ==================== soc.culture.israel: To discuss and share information about things Israeli taking place in Israel and abroad. Music, art, theatre, dance, cooking, movies, sports, literature, and job information are all examples of subjects for this newsgroup. soc.culture.jewish.american: To discuss and share information about Judaism and the Jewish experience in the United States of America. Xmas, Easter, AIDS, drug-use, where to live, and where to find kosher food are all examples of subjects for this newsgroup. soc.religion.jewish: To discuss and share information about the Jewish religion. Orthodox, Conservative, Reform (as well as anywhere to the right, left, or in-between of these reference points). talk.politics.israel: To discuss and share information about general internal Israeli politics. Direct elections for the Prime Minister/K'nesset representatives, old/new/blue laws, etc. are all examples of subjects for this newsgroup. talk.politics.israel.intifada: To discuss and share information about internal Israeli politics with regard to Jewish/Arab relations. PROPOSED STATUS: all newsgroups unmoderated =============== RATIONALES: ========== soc.religion.jewish Judaism is a religion. Regardless of the differences between Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and other paths, Judaism remains, first and foremost, a religion. The Jewish religion exists, and is the same, despite and without regard to geographic borders and ethnic differences. As such, there exists a definite need for a newsgroup which is devoted *entirely* and *solely* to the Jewish religion. soc.culture.israel soc.culture.jewish.american Conversely, although Judaism exists in both Israel and America, it is a religion, and not a culture, and does not address the day-to-day experiences of those living in either locale. As such, there also exists a definite need for two separate newsgroups which are devoted *entirely* and *solely* to the cultural and daily experiential needs of Israelis and Jewish-Americans. talk.politics.israel talk.politics.israel.intifada Finally, the politics of the State of Israel are (although a subset of them) distinctly different from those of the greater Middle- Eastern area, and the politics of the `intifada' are, in turn, both a subset of and distinctly different from the politics of Israel. As such, there exists a definite need for two separate newsgroups which are devoted *entirely* and *solely* [one] to the specific internal Israeli issues of the intifada, and [one] to the more general internal issues of Israeli politics. There will be a second RFD (Request for Discussion) posted 2 weeks from today, incorporating suggestions from the initial 2-week period. A CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted 30 days from now, on Rosh Hodesh Adar I (4 February 1992). Please direct all discussion to news.groups, and please direct all flames to /dev/null. -- Jonathan B. Horen | Tel: (415) 856-8000 | If Karen Carpenter and Mama TechWriter/SysAdmin | FAX: (415) 941-8943 | Cass had only shared that Renaissance Software | email: [email protected] | ham sandwich, they would 175 S. San Antonio Road | Los Altos, CA 94022 | both be alive today.
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