From [email protected] Wed Nov  2 17:44:56 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Loai Said)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: RFD: soc.culture.jordan
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 2 Nov 1994 14:52:05 -0500
Organization: JordanNet
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
============================
 
        Newsgroup Name: soc.culture.jordan
                Status: unmoderated
          Distribution: world 
               Summary: Discussion and debate on issues of interest to
			Jordanians and others interested in Jordanian
			culture, politics, education, recipes, tourism.
          Submitted by: Loai Said 
 
 
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the 
unmoderated newsgroup soc.culture.jordan.
 
Follow up to news.groups please.
 
CHARTER
=======
 
soc.culture.jordan is intended to be an unmoderated  discussion  newsgroup to
exchange  ideas, and  opinions regarding  The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, her
people, her politics,  and her culture. The group will welcome all people, and
accept all opinions. Topics of discussion will include but are not limited to:

* Politics			* Culture
* Music				* Language (Local dialect)
* Food				* Tourism
* Archiology			* Education
* Art				* Books
* Human Rights			* Social values
* History			* Networking
* Research			* Water resources
 
The discussions will be in English.

 
RATIONALE
=========
 
Many of the neighboring countries have their own groups soc.culture.turkish,
soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.lebanon, and
alt.culture.kuwait, but none of them is the place to  discuss  local issues 
usually  of  concern to  Jordanians alone. A mailing  list has  existed for 
sometime now, but many members had to unsubscribe because  of the amount of 
traffic  which filled  their  mailboxes,  and we  believe  there is  enough 
interest in such a  newsgroup due to  the number of  Jordanians on the net, 
and non-Jordanians who are interested in the peace process, and the 
developments in the country.


This RFD will be posted on the following newsgroups:
 
        news.groups
        news.announce.newgroups
	talk.politics.mideast
	soc.culture.israel
	soc.culture.arabic
	soc.culture.lebanon
	alt.culture.kuwait

 
The discussion  will be  held in  news.groups.  The discussion  will start
November 01, 1994, and will last for three weeks, until November 22, 1994. 
If there is enough  interest in the newsgroup, a Call for Votes (CFV) will 
be  posted shortly after the end of the discussion period. The voting will 
be conducted by an neutral third-party.

To get more information on newsgroup creation, please refer to the article 
"How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" usually found on 
news.announce.newsgroups.

Best Regards

Loai Said
[email protected]

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 15:37:01 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.kuwait
Subject: CFV: soc.culture.jordan
Followup-To: poster
Date: 1 Dec 1994 15:08:34 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 23 Dec 1994 00:00:00 GMT
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                     unmoderated group soc.culture.jordan

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.jordan	All topics concerning The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list [email protected].

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Loai Said 


CHARTER

soc.culture.jordan is intended to be an unmoderated  discussion  newsgroup to
exchange  ideas, and  opinions regarding  The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, her
people, her politics,  and her culture. The group will welcome all people, and
accept all opinions. Topics of discussion will include but are not limited to:

* Politics			* Culture
* Music				* Language (Local dialect)
* Food				* Tourism
* Archiology			* Education
* Art				* Books
* Human Rights			* Social values
* History			* Networking
* Research			* Water resources
 
The discussions will be in English.

 
RATIONALE
 
Many of the neighboring countries have their own groups soc.culture.turkish,
soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.lebanon, and
alt.culture.kuwait, but none of them is the place to  discuss  local issues 
usually  of  concern to  Jordanians alone. A mailing  list has  existed for 
sometime now, but many members had to unsubscribe because  of the amount of 
traffic  which filled  their  mailboxes,  and we  believe  there is  enough 
interest in such a  newsgroup due to  the number of  Jordanians on the net, 
and non-Jordanians who are interested in the peace process, and the 
developments in the country.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on soc.culture.jordan
      I vote NO on soc.culture.jordan

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Dec 14 15:17:01 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.kuwait
Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.jordan
Supersedes: 
Followup-To: poster
Date: 14 Dec 1994 14:18:06 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 23 Dec 1994 00:00:00 GMT
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References:  
Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias)
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:6087 news.groups:126964 soc.culture.israel:13312 soc.culture.palestine:8315 soc.culture.lebanon:21426 soc.culture.arabic:35282 soc.culture.kuwait:507

                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                     unmoderated group soc.culture.jordan

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.jordan      All topics concerning The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list [email protected].

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Loai Said 


CHARTER

soc.culture.jordan is intended to be an unmoderated  discussion  newsgroup to
exchange  ideas, and  opinions regarding  The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, her
people, her politics,  and her culture. The group will welcome all people, and
accept all opinions. Topics of discussion will include but are not limited to:

* Politics                      * Culture
* Music                         * Language (Local dialect)
* Food                          * Tourism
* Archiology                    * Education
* Art                           * Books
* Human Rights                  * Social values
* History                       * Networking
* Research                      * Water resources
 
The discussions will be in English.

 
RATIONALE
 
Many of the neighboring countries have their own groups soc.culture.turkish,
soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.lebanon, and
alt.culture.kuwait, but none of them is the place to  discuss  local issues 
usually  of  concern to  Jordanians alone. A mailing  list has  existed for 
sometime now, but many members had to unsubscribe because  of the amount of 
traffic  which filled  their  mailboxes,  and we  believe  there is  enough 
interest in such a  newsgroup due to  the number of  Jordanians on the net, 
and non-Jordanians who are interested in the peace process, and the 
developments in the country.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on soc.culture.jordan
      I vote NO on soc.culture.jordan

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



soc.culture.jordan Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                         Mona Jaradat
[email protected]                                                   Saad N Mouasher

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Jan  5 14:29:30 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.kuwait
Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.jordan passes 164:21
Supersedes: 
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Date: 5 Jan 1995 14:16:54 -0500
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                                    RESULT
              unmoderated group soc.culture.jordan passes 164:21

There were 164 YES votes and 21 NO votes, for a total of 185 valid votes.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.jordan      All topics concerning The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Loai Said 


CHARTER

soc.culture.jordan is intended to be an unmoderated  discussion  newsgroup to
exchange  ideas, and  opinions regarding  The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, her
people, her politics,  and her culture. The group will welcome all people, and
accept all opinions. Topics of discussion will include but are not limited to:

* Politics                      * Culture
* Music                         * Language (Local dialect)
* Food                          * Tourism
* Archiology                    * Education
* Art                           * Books
* Human Rights                  * Social values
* History                       * Networking
* Research                      * Water resources
 
The discussions will be in English.

 
RATIONALE
 
Many of the neighboring countries have their own groups soc.culture.turkish,
soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.lebanon, and
alt.culture.kuwait, but none of them is the place to  discuss  local issues 
usually  of  concern to  Jordanians alone. A mailing  list has  existed for 
sometime now, but many members had to unsubscribe because  of the amount of 
traffic  which filled  their  mailboxes,  and we  believe  there is  enough 
interest in such a  newsgroup due to  the number of  Jordanians on the net, 
and non-Jordanians who are interested in the peace process, and the 
developments in the country.


soc.culture.jordan Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                          Abear Rabadi
[email protected]                                    Diya M. Al-Sarraj
[email protected]                                         Mona Jaradat
[email protected]                                  Jamil Antary
[email protected]                                                 Zabin Anwar
[email protected]                                       Ahmed AL-BUHEISSI
[email protected]                                                Aaron Priven
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[email protected]                                           Ahmad Abualsamid
[email protected]                                           N.Al-zubi
[email protected]                                    Zaha Aljallad x-5303
[email protected]                                      AL-JAWHARI  BASEL
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[email protected]                                     Alain Chammas
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[email protected]                                    Hanin S Al-Rashid
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[email protected]                                               AL-Saegh, Ammar T.
[email protected]                                            Joseph F. Angel
[email protected]                                                Anwar Mohammed
[email protected]                                                             ARNIE
[email protected]             a.shiyab-acacia-ele-student-94080672
[email protected]                                                      Ala Rabady
[email protected]                                              anonymous
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
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[email protected]                                 Bashar A. Jawhari
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                       Christopher Bradford Stone
[email protected]                                          Khalil Al-Jawhari
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                         Kutaiba Razzooqi
[email protected]                                       Azza El-Athamna
[email protected]                                     Ghada Abu-Sha3ban
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[email protected]                                   Caroline ZABBAL
[email protected]                                              Yasser Dahlan
[email protected]                                                Alaa Dakroub
[email protected]                                    Dana Saleh Atallah
[email protected]                                                 Dave Cook
[email protected]                                         Claude DETIENNE
[email protected]                                              Dirk Heinsius
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[email protected]                                     Daniel Zeman
[email protected]                                            Eiman Jafar
[email protected]                                        Elaine Clark
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[email protected]                                            Majdi Shami
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[email protected]                                               F. Awad
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[email protected]                                          Robin L Gelinson
[email protected]                                                   Gil Neiger
[email protected]                                Mobadda Al-labadi
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[email protected]                                                Hanan Lutfiyya
[email protected]                                                 Basil Hashem
[email protected]                                   Ayman  ibrahim Hawari
[email protected]                                          Henning Holtschneider
[email protected]                                               Hilary Rhodes
[email protected]                                   Hind Khalifeh
[email protected]                                            Samer Maalouf
[email protected]                                            hattar samer
[email protected]                                      Hussein Dia
[email protected]                              Khoury, Hani
[email protected]                                                   David Cook
[email protected]                               Ibrahim Hani Hakki
[email protected]                                     King Imad ibn el-karak
[email protected]                                       Brent Sutherland
[email protected]                                     Alexandre Khalil
[email protected]                                          ZABBAL, VIVIANE
[email protected]                                          JOHN HYSLOP
[email protected]                                                 Jake Livni
[email protected]                                     Julia Arabiat
[email protected]                             James Alexander Chokey
[email protected]                                     Jade Debussac
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                Joseph F. Simon
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[email protected]                                 Joseph W. Roberts
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[email protected]                                             Simplicisist
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                          Karen Kolling
[email protected]                                        Khalid Salha
[email protected]                                          Mr. Nasser Kutkut
[email protected]                                      lawanna j casto
[email protected]                                                  Ghouch el L
[email protected]                                                   Leo Staschover
[email protected]                                  Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                              Journet Lynette R
[email protected]                                                     Loai Said
[email protected]                                     Lutz Donnerhacke
[email protected]                                  Marwan Gharaybeh
[email protected]                             Jeffrey William McKeough
[email protected]                                           Bassem Medawar
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                                Milana Homsi
[email protected]                                                   IWEWE
[email protected]                                               May Mouaket
[email protected]                                R. Patterson
[email protected]                                           OMAR SMADI
[email protected]                                             Nathan Mehl
[email protected]                                         Nicholas A Bartoli
[email protected]                                               Reem Alnuweiri
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[email protected]                                        Omega
[email protected]                                    Osama K. Al-Shaykh
[email protected]                                             Pierre Flener
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                              Ramzi M. Shammaa
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[email protected]                                          Ramzi Nasnas
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[email protected]                                               Raouf Hashim
[email protected]                                                Ron Blum
[email protected]                                                  Robert Dorsett
[email protected]                                 The Rose Of The East
[email protected]                                              Rania Masri
[email protected]                                                  Ruth M. Sylte
[email protected]                                                Rod Abudayeh
[email protected]                                                 Ronnie B. Kon
[email protected]                                            Yousef Qulaghassi
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[email protected]                                                   Saad N Mouasher
[email protected]                                          Raji Sabbagh
[email protected]         Saleh Kabalani - Operations Manager / Info Systems
[email protected]                                  Samir M. Fahs
[email protected]                                             Shari Deiana
[email protected]                                         Suha Hassan
[email protected]                                 The Great Pumpkin
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[email protected]                                Stephen Richard Phillips
[email protected]                                     Noel S. McFerran
[email protected]                                      Suhaib Mohammed
[email protected]                                      Mounzer Al-Harake
[email protected]                                             Salameh (Sal) Sweis
[email protected]                                   Taher Aljundi
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[email protected]                                            John Tegtmeier
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
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[email protected]                                                  Tim Sahouri
[email protected]                                                 Tony Ezzat
[email protected]                                                dhuha
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[email protected]                               Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                            Yaakov Kayman
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[email protected]                                                    Sumy
[email protected]                                 Zahi Al Jamous
[email protected]                                               Zachary N Hans
[email protected]                                               Ziad Sabri

Voted No
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
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[email protected]                                             David
[email protected]                                                 David W. Crawford
[email protected]                                            Dave Thacker
[email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                    Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                         Jeff C. Glover
[email protected]                                                      Larry Smith
[email protected]                                                  Mike Hatz
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                              Steve Mitchell
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