From [email protected] Thu Feb 24 17:53:39 1994
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From: [email protected] (J.Desmond)
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Subject: RFD: soc.history.reenactment
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

soc.history.reenactment

PURPOSE OF GROUP

The group is intended as an information and discussion centre for 
re-enactment groups of all periods to advertise their group, swap ideas
on specific periods and to give lists of show dates interested people may
want to attend. Some newsgroups contain a little re-enactment based
traffic, but as far as i know, there is no group which deals with the 
topic exclusively.

This post is intended as a `test of the water' and for people to post
me with ideas for charter and moderation.

If i receive any feedback from this i will collate it into a second
request for discussion with more information.

Please use the news.groups channel for open discussion articles. 

From [email protected] Wed Mar  9 23:32:29 1994
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From: [email protected] (J.Desmond)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: soc.history.reenactment
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2nd Request for Discussion

soc.history.reenactment 

After recieving *lots* of post in favour of creating this newsgroup i feel
confident putting down a few more details.

Charter

soc.history.reenactment will exist to serve as an information exchange
for re-enactors of all periods from all countries for the purposes
of advertising the existence of groups, swapping information regarding
such as fighting technique through or availiability of
materials such as cloth and leather, advertising shows and articles 
on authenticity, provenance or anything to do with battle or living
history reenactment.

The group will not be moderated.

It is hoped that cross-postings will be limited to regular FAQ`s say
on a monthly basis. Those groups that will recieve this message can
expect this cross-post.

Please respond with your ideas or comments to news.groups first or to me if
you cannot post. 

From [email protected] Thu Jun  2 15:59:00 1994
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From: "J.Desmond" 
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Subject: 3rd RFD: soc.history.living
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Name of Group soc.history.living

This is positivly the last name change, so if you don`t like it, vote against the group in the CFV.

Charter

This group shall provide a platform for clubs, associations groups and societieswho are engaged in the practice of historical reenactment and living-history
to advertise themselves, share information or debate issues relevent to all
manner of reenactment or living history in any period. The group will also 
provide the opportunity for international contact for reenactment and
living history groups.

Name

The name provides for a split at a later date should traffic for reenactment
warrant the need for its own group. Also, the name doesn`t mess with any 
existing hierarchies.

Moderation

The group will be unmoderated   

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Jul 20 20:33:09 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		 unmoderated group soc.history.living

Newsgroups line:
soc.history.living	Living history and reenactment, issues and info.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 19 August 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
The Historic Costume Mailing List 

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Diane Barlow Close 


CHARTER

Soc.history.living provides a platform for clubs, associations,
societies, and other groups and individuals who are engaged in the
practice of living history and historical reenactment to advertise
themselves, share information, or debate issues relevent to all manner
of reenactment or living history in any period.  This newsgroup also
provides the opportunity for international contact for living history
and reenactment groups and individuals.  This group is not moderated.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on soc.history.living
      I vote NO on soc.history.living

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.


From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Jul 28 17:27:45 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.history.living
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group soc.history.living

Newsgroups line:
soc.history.living      Living history and reenactment, issues and info.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 19 August 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
The Historic Costume Mailing List 

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Diane Barlow Close 


CHARTER

Soc.history.living provides a platform for clubs, associations,
societies, and other groups and individuals who are engaged in the
practice of living history and historical reenactment to advertise
themselves, share information, or debate issues relevent to all manner
of reenactment or living history in any period.  This newsgroup also
provides the opportunity for international contact for living history
and reenactment groups and individuals.  This group is not moderated.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on soc.history.living
      I vote NO on soc.history.living

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.




soc.history.living Bounce List - No need to revote
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No bounced votes at this time

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Aug 31 12:49:17 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: soc.history.living passes 205:23
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                               RESULT
	  unmoderated group soc.history.living passes 205:23

There were 205 YES votes and 23 NO votes, for a total of 228 valid votes. 
There were 3 abstains.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
soc.history.living      Living history and reenactment, issues and info.


This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Diane Barlow Close 


CHARTER

Soc.history.living provides a platform for clubs, associations,
societies, and other groups and individuals who are engaged in the
practice of living history and historical reenactment to advertise
themselves, share information, or debate issues relevent to all manner
of reenactment or living history in any period.  This newsgroup also
provides the opportunity for international contact for living history
and reenactment groups and individuals.  This group is not moderated.


soc.history.living Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                       Ted Talay
[email protected]                                   Tim Theyers
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[email protected]                                    Bruce Tindall
[email protected]                                                  Tom Ross
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[email protected]                                           Walter Nelson
[email protected]                                          Wesley H Clark
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                           Brian Bulkowski
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[email protected]                                       John Lacey
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[email protected]                                            R. Michael Litchfield
[email protected]                                    Bill McKinney
[email protected]                                               Neil Bowers
[email protected]                                                        Sherry Day
[email protected]                                                Siamak Ansari
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush

Abstained
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[email protected]                                       Shag Aristotelis
[email protected]                                            Eric C. Carlson
[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS