From [email protected] Wed Mar 8 19:02:18 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce Subject: RFD: comp.os.os2.* reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Mar 1995 17:56:29 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 184 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6379 news.groups:138202 comp.os.os2.announce:1250 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION reorganization of comp.os.os2.* INTRODUCTION: This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creating of five OS/2 newsgroups and the splitting of two existing ones into seven: * create comp.os.os2.marketplace * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.{www, mail-news, misc} * create comp.os.os2.comm * split comp.os.os2.setup into {video, storage, install, misc} * split comp.os.os2.apps into {word-proc, utilities, misc} A pointer to this article will be cross-posted to: * comp.os.os2.setup * comp.os.os2.apps * comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip RATIONALE: Usenet traffic is getting bigger and bigger, and OS/2-related traffic is not exempt. With approximately 13,000 posts (according to the Usenet Readership Report for Jan 95) in comp.os.os2.{networking.tcp-ip, apps, setup} combined, there is a need to split these OS/2 newsgroups into more managable pieces. Here are the number of posts per month according to the Usenet Readership Report for June 94 as compared to January 95: Newsgroup Jun 94 Jan 95 comp.os.os2.apps 1883 4309 comp.os.os2.setup 1013 5186 comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip 933 3688 As a comparison, here are the number of posts per month for equivalent MS Windows newsgroups (each number for comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* is the sum of comp.os.ms-windows.apps.{word-proc, utilities, comm, financial, misc}): Newsgroup Jun 94 Jan 95 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* 2695 4011 comp.os.ms-windows.setup 829 1204 comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip 845 1087 OS/2 Warp 3 (the one that can use your existing unoptimized version of Windows made by Microsoft, but I will call it Red Warp due to the red spine of its package) and OS/2 Warp 3 with DOS/Windows (the one that includes a version of Windows that has been optimized by IBM--I will call it Blue Warp for the blue spine) both include BonusPak. BonusPak is a variety of software ranging from a "works" package to an Internet Connection package. Red Warp, which has been on PC Magazine's Top Ten list four times (reaching the number one spot twice), has caused a surge in the number of posts in the OS/2 newsgroups since its release last year. Traffic is expected to further increase with the recently-released Blue Warp, as well as upcoming versions of Warp for SMP, Warp with bundled networking support, and Warp for PowerPC. Therefore, it is proposed to create new OS/2 newsgroups and split up some existing ones. The existing comp.os.os2.setup newsgroup would be split into comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, installation, misc} to discuss video hardware/drivers, disk/tape hardware/drivers, installing/tweaking OS/2, and miscellaneous hardware/drivers. The existing comp.os.os2.apps would be split into comp.os.os2.apps.{word-proc, utilities, misc} to discuss running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 word processors, utilities, and miscellaneous software under OS/2. On comp.os.os2.misc there was discussion of two different plans on where multimedia and communications newsgroups were to be placed. The first plan split each into the setup and apps hierarchy. The second plan had each as a specialized newsgroup combining setup and apps together. Here are the plans: Plan #1: * rename comp.os.os2.apps.multimedia (from comp.os.os2.multimedia) * create comp.os.os2.setup.multimedia * create comp.os.os2.apps.comm * create comp.os.os2.setup.comm Plan #2: * leave comp.os.os2.multimedia as is * create comp.os.os2.comm The comp.os.os2.misc readers decided that Plan #2 was better because it was simpler, as well as avoided unneeded crossposting. Therefore, comp.os.os2.comm is proposed. The creation of comp.os.os2.marketplace is also proposed. This newsgroup would filter OS/2-related advertisements, employment offerings/resumes, forsale/wanted, and price of OS/2 products discussions from other OS/2 newsgroups. As a bonus, it would reduce crossposting among the other newsgroups (e.g. "I went toyesterday and they had , , and on sale!!!!"). The Internet Connection package in the BonusPak has generated much traffic. This package contains a license for Web Explorer, NewsReader/2, Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, and other networking software. It is proposed to create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.{www, mail-news, misc} to discuss OS/2-related WWW software, mail and news software, and miscellaneous networking software. These newgroups would be placed in comp.os.os2.networking.apps.* rather than comp.os.os2.apps.networking.* because network software belongs in the networking hierarchy in the same way programmer's software belongs in the programmer hierarchy. CHARTERS: * create comp.os.os2.marketplace Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services: a) "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products b) Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services c) Commercial product/service advertisements d) Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.www Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web (WWW) browsers under OS/2. * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.mail-news Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news software under OS/2. * create comp.os.os2.networking.apps.misc Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 networking apps and utilities under OS/2 that are not covered in other OS/2 networking newsgroups (eg telnet, ping, etc). * create comp.os.os2.comm Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem software under OS/2. * create comp.os.os2.setup.video Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of video hardware/drivers. * create comp.os.os2.setup.storage Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers). Note that discussion of CD-ROM drives (as well as sound cards, multimedia upgrade kits, and multimedia software) still belong in comp.os.os2.multimedia. * create comp.os.os2.setup.install Unmoderated discussion of installing OS/2: a) Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems. b) Installation tips and problem solving. c) Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs. FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc). d) "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size, system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.) * rename comp.os.os2.setup.misc (from comp.os.os2.setup) Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, etc). Note that discussion of CD-ROM and sound card issues belongs in the existing comp.os.os2.multimedia. * create comp.os.os2.apps.word-proc Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 word processors under OS/2, including the word processing specific module of "works" and "suites". * create comp.os.os2.apps.utilities Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, screen savers, virus scanners, etc) under OS/2. * rename comp.os.os2.apps.misc (from comp.os.os2.apps) Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 applications under OS/2 that are not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups. Note that discussion of programmer software belongs in the appropriate comp.os.os2.programmer.* newsgroup, and discussion of multimedia software belongs in comp.os.os2.multimedia. SCHEDULE: The proposed newsgroups were discussed on the OS/2 newsgroups throughout February. The discussion period is expected to last approximately 30 days starting with the day this RFD is posted. The voting period is expected to begin shortly after the discussion period is over--do not vote until the Call For Votes (CFV) is posted. I plan to have the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) handle the votetaking procedure. -- Mike Levis - OS/2 Warp 3 [email protected] From [email protected] Wed Mar 22 16:18:30 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.os.os2 reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 22 Mar 1995 15:37:43 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 318 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6479 news.groups:140789 comp.os.os2.announce:1293 2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION reorganization of comp.os.os2.* INTRODUCTION: This is the second Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of five new OS/2 newsgroups and the splitting of one into three (all eight of the proposals are unmoderated): * create comp.os.os2.marketplace * create comp.os.os2.networking.www * create comp.os.os2.mail-news * create comp.os.os2.comm * create comp.os.os2.utilities * split comp.os.os2.setup into c.o.o.setup.{video, storage, misc} A pointer to this article will be cross-posted to: * comp.os.os2.setup * comp.os.os2.apps * comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip This RFD contains sections on: changes from the 1st RFD; newsgroup lines; rationale; charters; future hierarchy structure; and a schedule. CHANGES FROM 1st RFD: Based on feedback from the 1st RFD, here are the changes to the 2nd RFD: * Creating comp.os.os2.networking.apps.{www, mail-news, misc} has been changed to comp.os.os2.networking.www and comp.os.os2.mail-news. Respondents did not like the "apps" branch because networking apps are also hardware/driver dependent (much like communication apps are). Respondents also did not like "mail-news" to be in the "networking" branch because offline mail/news software did not use networking. The traffic that was to go in the proposed c.o.o.networking.apps.misc group will remain in the existing c.o.o.networking.tcp-ip. * Creating comp.os.os2.apps.{word-proc, utilities, misc} has been changed to comp.os.os2.utilities. Respondents did not like the "word-proc" branch because of potential cross-posting in discussions of, say, linking documents with spreadsheets, for example. As for the "utilities" branch, utilities are not really apps. Utilities allow the users to use their computers better, while apps are reasons for buying a computer in the first place. For example, people don't buy computers to run screen savers or virus scanners; they buy computers to run word processors and spreadsheets. * Creating comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, install, misc} has been changed to just comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, misc}. Respondents felt that the "install" branch was somewhat redundant with the "misc" branch, so now they are combined into just "misc". * Some the the charters of the groups have been clarified. Also, the charter for comp.os.os2.setup.storage now includes discussion of CD-ROM drive issues since not everyone that uses CD-ROM drives is also interested in multimedia issues. * A section for the newsgroup lines and another section for what the OS/2 newsgroup hierarchy would look like have been added. NEWSGROUP LINES: Here are the newsgroup lines. I forgot to include them in the 1st RFD although they are not required until the CFV. Including them now in the RFD stage will allow feedback on them. Note that the format is the newsgroup name, a tab character, and a brief description of the newsgroup (all must be less than 80 characters). comp.os.os2.marketplace forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings comp.os.os2.networking.www World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.mail-news Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2 comp.os.os2.comm Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.video Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.storage Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.misc Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers comp.os.os2.utilities General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc) RATIONALE: Usenet traffic is getting bigger and bigger, and OS/2-related traffic is not exempt. With approximately 13,000 posts (according to the Usenet Readership Report for Jan 95) in comp.os.os2.{networking.tcp-ip, apps, setup} combined, there is a need to split these OS/2 newsgroups into more managable pieces. Here are the number of posts per month according to the Usenet Readership Report for June 94 as compared to January 95: Newsgroup Jun 94 Jan 95 comp.os.os2.apps 1883 4309 comp.os.os2.setup 1013 5186 comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip 933 3688 As a comparison, here are the number of posts per month for equivalent MS Windows newsgroups (each number for comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* is the sum of comp.os.ms-windows.apps.{word-proc, utilities, comm, financial, misc}): Newsgroup Jun 94 Jan 95 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* 2695 4011 comp.os.ms-windows.setup 829 1204 comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip 845 1087 OS/2 Warp 3 (the one that can use your existing unoptimized version of Windows made by Microsoft, but I will call it Red Warp due to the red spine of its package) and OS/2 Warp 3 with DOS/Windows (the one that includes a version of Windows that has been optimized by IBM--I will call it Blue Warp for the blue spine) both include BonusPak. BonusPak is a variety of software ranging from a "works" package to an Internet Connection package. Red Warp, which has been on PC Magazine's Top Ten list four times (reaching the number one spot twice), has caused a surge in the number of posts in the OS/2 newsgroups since its release last year. Traffic is expected to further increase with the recently-released Blue Warp, as well as upcoming versions of Warp for SMP, Warp Connect (Warp with bundled networking support), and Warp for PowerPC. Therefore, it is proposed to create new OS/2 newsgroups and split up one existing one. The existing comp.os.os2.setup newsgroup would be split into comp.os.os2.setup.{video, storage, misc} to discuss video hardware/ drivers, disk/tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers, and miscellaneous setup issues (such as installing OS/2 and miscellaneous hardware/drivers). The creation of comp.os.os2.utilities is proposed for the discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 utilities such as screen savers, virus scanners, compressors (both manual ones like Info-ZIP and automatic ones like Stacker), backup software, alternative shells, etc. On comp.os.os2.misc there was discussion of two different plans on where multimedia and communications newsgroups were to be placed. The first plan split each into the setup and apps hierarchy. The second plan had each as a specialized newsgroup combining setup and apps together. Here are the plans: Plan #1: * rename comp.os.os2.apps.multimedia (from comp.os.os2.multimedia) * create comp.os.os2.setup.multimedia * create comp.os.os2.apps.comm * create comp.os.os2.setup.comm Plan #2: * leave comp.os.os2.multimedia as is * create comp.os.os2.comm The comp.os.os2.misc readers decided that Plan #2 was better because it was simpler, as well as avoided unneeded crossposting. Therefore, comp.os.os2.comm is proposed. The creation of comp.os.os2.marketplace is also proposed. This newsgroup would filter OS/2-related advertisements, employment offerings/resumes, forsale/wanted, and price of OS/2 products discussions from other OS/2 newsgroups. As a bonus, it would reduce crossposting among the other newsgroups (e.g. "I went to yesterday and they had , , and on sale!!!!"). The Internet Connection package in the BonusPak has generated much traffic. This package contains a license for Web Explorer, NewsReader/2, Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, and other networking software. It is proposed to create comp.os.os2.{networking.www, mail-news} to discuss OS/2-related WWW software, and mail and news software (discussion of other TCP/IP-related networking apps and utils will remain in comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip). comp.os.os2.networking.www would be placed in the "networking" branch rather than the "apps" branch because network software belongs in the networking hierarchy in the same way programmer's software belongs in the programmer hierarchy. comp.os.os2.mail-news would not be placed in the "networking" branch because offline mail/news reading software do not use networking. CHARTERS: * create comp.os.os2.marketplace Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services: - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services - Commercial product/service advertisements - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belong in comp.os.os2.advocacy. * create comp.os.os2.networking.www Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta) because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup. * create comp.os.os2.mail-news Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes * create comp.os.os2.comm Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service" providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes * create comp.os.os2.setup.video Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs in comp.os.os2.multimedia. * create comp.os.os2.setup.storage Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive, and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers). Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes * rename comp.os.os2.setup.misc (from comp.os.os2.setup) Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU and SMP motherboards, etc). Installation issues can include: - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including minimum system requirements. - Installation tips and problem solving. - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs. FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc). - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size, system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.) Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes * create comp.os.os2.utilities Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2. A loose definition of a utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve computer problems. Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g. networking- specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here. Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs, etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps. Discussion of general-purpose utilities can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes FUTURE HIERARCHY STRUCTURE: If all the proposals were to pass, here is a summary of how the unmoderated OS/2 discussion newsgroups would look like: c.o.o.marketplace: (NEW) forsale/wanted; shopping; ads; jobs c.o.o.networking.www: (NEW) Running WWW apps/utils c.o.o.networking.tcp-ip: General setup; running misc apps/utils c.o.o.networking.misc: Non-TCP/IP networking issues c.o.o.comm: (NEW) Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils c.o.o.mail-news: (NEW) Running mail/news apps/utils c.o.o.setup.video: (NEW) Base video hardware/drivers c.o.o.setup.storage: (NEW) Disk/tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers c.o.o.setup.misc: (RENAME) Installing OS/2; misc hardware/drivers c.o.o.games: Running games and game utils c.o.o.programmer.porting: Cross-platform tools/programming/libs (eg OWL) c.o.o.programmer.oop: SOM/Opendoc tools/programming c.o.o.programmer.tools: Running general programming apps/utils c.o.o.programmer.misc: General programming c.o.o.multimedia: Sound cards; video/audio record/edit/play c.o.o.advocacy: Pros and cons of OS/2 vs. other OSes/OEs c.o.o.apps: Running general-purpose apps c.o.o.utilities: (NEW) Running general-purpose utils c.o.o.beta: OS/2 beta/gamma testing; feature requests c.o.o.bugs: System (not driver) bugs; ServicePaks & FixPaks c.o.o.misc: Anything not covered by other OS/2 newsgroups SCHEDULE: Pre-RFD discussion occurred on the OS/2 newgroups in February. After the 1st RFD was posted on March 9, discussion on news.groups indicated a need to change the RFD. This 2nd RFD reflects those changes. If this 2nd RFD is successful, then the voting period is expected to begin sometime between March 30 through April 9. I plan to have the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) handle the votetaking procedure. -- Mike Levis - OS/2 Warp 3 [email protected] From [email protected] Thu Apr 20 21:59:07 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce,comp.os.os2.setup Subject: CFV: comp.os.os2 reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 19 Apr 1995 12:32:48 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 194 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6666 news.groups:145364 comp.os.os2.announce:1360 comp.os.os2.setup:44231 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) comp.os.os2.comm unmoderated comp.os.os2.mail-news unmoderated comp.os.os2.marketplace unmoderated comp.os.os2.networking.www unmoderated comp.os.os2.setup.misc unmoderated comp.os.os2.setup.video unmoderated comp.os.os2.setup.storage unmoderated comp.os.os2.utilities unmoderated Newsgroups lines: comp.os.os2.comm Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.mail-news Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2 comp.os.os2.marketplace forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings comp.os.os2.networking.www World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.misc Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers comp.os.os2.setup.video Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.storage Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.utilities General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact Mike Levis . CHARTERS comp.os.os2.comm Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service" providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.mail-news Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.marketplace Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services: - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products (e.g. OS/2 books, OS/2 software, OS/2 itself, OS/2-imprinted umbrellas, etc) - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services - Commercial product/service advertisements - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belongs in comp.os.os2.advocacy. comp.os.os2.networking.www Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta) because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup. comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU and SMP motherboards, etc). Installation issues can include: - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including minimum system requirements. - Installation tips and problem solving. - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs. FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc). - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size, system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.) Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.setup.storage Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive, and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers). Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.setup.video Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs in comp.os.os2.multimedia. comp.os.os2.utilities Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2. A loose definition of a utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve computer problems. Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g. networking- specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here. Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs, etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps. Discussion of general-purpose utilities can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes RATIONALE Ever since the release last year of "Red" Warp (with BonusPak containing software such as Internet access), the traffic on the OS/2 newsgroups has soared. Here are the numbers for posts per month (obtained from the Usenet Readership Report) for OS/2 newsgroups that are affected by this CFV. The combined number of posts per month rises from 3829 to 13183. Numbers for equivalent MS-Windows newsgroups are included for comparison, which rise >from 4369 to only 6302. Newsgroup Jun 94 Jan 95 comp.os.os2.apps 1883 4309 comp.os.os2.setup 1013 5186 comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip 933 3688 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* 2695 4011 comp.os.ms-windows.setup 829 1204 comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip 845 1087 The proposals in this CFV will allow OS/2 users (whether using "Borg" 2.11, "Ferengi" 2.11, "Red" Warp 3, or "Blue" Warp 3) to read about a particular subject rather than wade through 400 articles per day (this number does not even include traffic from OS/2 newsgroups not affected by this CFV). Those interested in reading the entire rationale can read the "2nd RFD" portion of the file ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.os.os2.marketplace HOW TO VOTE You must send MAIL to [email protected]. (Posting in a newsgroup does not constitute a vote.) Just replying to this article should work unless you are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address. Please remove text before the marker line below. Voting mail is archived by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space. Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group. If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone. You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts. Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X. The votes are tabulated by a program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same line as the name of the group. You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.os.os2 reorg Ballot (Don't remove this marker) Please give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.os.os2.comm [ ] comp.os.os2.mail-news [ ] comp.os.os2.marketplace [ ] comp.os.os2.networking.www [ ] comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) [ ] comp.os.os2.setup.video [ ] comp.os.os2.setup.storage [ ] comp.os.os2.utilities -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From [email protected] Wed Apr 26 19:39:06 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce,comp.os.os2.setup Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.os2 reorganization Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 26 Apr 1995 15:22:43 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 202 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6707 news.groups:146417 comp.os.os2.announce:1391 comp.os.os2.setup:45473 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) comp.os.os2.comm unmoderated comp.os.os2.mail-news unmoderated comp.os.os2.marketplace unmoderated comp.os.os2.networking.www unmoderated comp.os.os2.setup.misc unmoderated comp.os.os2.setup.video unmoderated comp.os.os2.setup.storage unmoderated comp.os.os2.utilities unmoderated Newsgroups lines: comp.os.os2.comm Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.mail-news Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2 comp.os.os2.marketplace forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings comp.os.os2.networking.www World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.misc Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers comp.os.os2.setup.video Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.storage Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.utilities General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact Mike Levis . CHARTERS comp.os.os2.comm Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service" providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.mail-news Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.marketplace Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services: - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products (e.g. OS/2 books, OS/2 software, OS/2 itself, OS/2-imprinted umbrellas, etc) - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services - Commercial product/service advertisements - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belongs in comp.os.os2.advocacy. comp.os.os2.networking.www Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta) because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup. comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU and SMP motherboards, etc). Installation issues can include: - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including minimum system requirements. - Installation tips and problem solving. - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs. FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc). - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size, system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.) Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.setup.storage Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive, and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers). Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.setup.video Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs in comp.os.os2.multimedia. comp.os.os2.utilities Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2. A loose definition of a utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve computer problems. Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g. networking- specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here. Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs, etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps. Discussion of general-purpose utilities can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes RATIONALE Ever since the release last year of "Red" Warp (with BonusPak containing software such as Internet access), the traffic on the OS/2 newsgroups has soared. Here are the numbers for posts per month (obtained from the Usenet Readership Report) for OS/2 newsgroups that are affected by this CFV. The combined number of posts per month rises from 3829 to 13183. Numbers for equivalent MS-Windows newsgroups are included for comparison, which rise >from 4369 to only 6302. Newsgroup Jun 94 Jan 95 comp.os.os2.apps 1883 4309 comp.os.os2.setup 1013 5186 comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip 933 3688 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.* 2695 4011 comp.os.ms-windows.setup 829 1204 comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip 845 1087 The proposals in this CFV will allow OS/2 users (whether using "Borg" 2.11, "Ferengi" 2.11, "Red" Warp 3, or "Blue" Warp 3) to read about a particular subject rather than wade through 400 articles per day (this number does not even include traffic from OS/2 newsgroups not affected by this CFV). Those interested in reading the entire rationale can read the "2nd RFD" portion of the file ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.os.os2.marketplace HOW TO VOTE You must send MAIL to [email protected]. (Posting in a newsgroup does not constitute a vote.) Just replying to this article should work unless you are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address. Please remove text before the marker line below. Voting mail is archived by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space. Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group. If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone. You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts. Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X. The votes are tabulated by a program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same line as the name of the group. You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.os.os2 reorg Ballot (Don't remove this marker) Please give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.os.os2.comm [ ] comp.os.os2.mail-news [ ] comp.os.os2.marketplace [ ] comp.os.os2.networking.www [ ] comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) [ ] comp.os.os2.setup.video [ ] comp.os.os2.setup.storage [ ] comp.os.os2.utilities -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.os.os2 reorg Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Gary W. Tash [email protected] Christopher R. Payne dlm@f2a_dlm_pc.jhuapl.edu David L. Marable [email protected] Hugh Craig [email protected] Richard J. Thaxter From [email protected] Sat May 13 00:06:11 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.announce,comp.os.os2.setup Subject: RESULT: comp.os.os2 reorganization passes Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 12 May 1995 16:33:07 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 943 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: References: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6826 news.groups:149105 comp.os.os2.announce:1454 comp.os.os2.setup:47688 RESULT comp.os.os2 reorg results - 773 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 724 30 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.comm 685 55 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.mail-news 671 60 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.marketplace 680 58 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.networking.www 702 48 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) 698 40 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.setup.video 685 46 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.setup.storage 718 32 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.os2.utilities 7 invalid votes For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the groups shortly thereafter. Newsgroups lines: comp.os.os2.comm Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.mail-news Mail and news apps/utils (on- & offline) under OS/2 comp.os.os2.marketplace forsale/wanted; shopping; commercial ads; job postings comp.os.os2.networking.www World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.misc Installing/configuring OS/2; Misc hardware/drivers comp.os.os2.setup.video Base video hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.setup.storage Disk/Tape/CD-ROM hardware/drivers under OS/2 comp.os.os2.utilities General-purpose utils (shells/backup/compression/etc) Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1995. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact Mike Levis . CHARTERS comp.os.os2.comm Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of fax/modem hardware/drivers (including UARTs), as well as running DOS, Windows and OS/2 fax/modem apps and utilities (e.g. BBS, terminal emulators, "online service" providers, non-networking file transfer such as IBM-to-Mac, etc.) under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.mail-news Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows and OS/2 email and news apps and utilities, whether online or offline, under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.marketplace Unmoderated discussion of OS/2-related products and services: - "forsale" and "wanted" of OS/2-related products (e.g. OS/2 books, OS/2 software, OS/2 itself, OS/2-imprinted umbrellas, etc) - Discussion of companies that offer OS/2 products/services - Commercial product/service advertisements - Posting of OS/2-related employment offerings and resumes Note that discussion of *marketing* (e.g. "IBM should advertise OS/2 in magazines whose audience is computer users with kids") belongs in comp.os.os2.advocacy. comp.os.os2.networking.www Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 World Wide Web (WWW) apps and utilities under OS/2. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of WWW sites containing OS/2 information/software would belong in the appropriate OS/2 newsgroup (e.g. discussion of a WWW site containing info about an OS/2 beta would belong in comp.os.os2.beta) because some/many OS/2 users with WWW access may be using a Unix-based browser, for example, and therefore might not be reading this newsgroup. comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of installing and configuring OS/2, as well as discussion of hardware/drivers not covered in other OS/2 newsgroups (e.g., printers, keyboards, mice, BIOSes, CPU upgrades, RAM, single-CPU and SMP motherboards, etc). Installation issues can include: - Discussing the compatibility of complete computer systems, including minimum system requirements. - Installation tips and problem solving. - Disk partitioning (including Boot Manager, Dual Boot, HPFS vs. FAT FS, coexistance of other operating systems, etc). - "Tweaking" OS/2's performance (e.g. swapfile location and size, system startup values such as MAXWAIT, etc.) Discussion of miscellaneous hardware can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.setup.storage Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM drive, and tape-backup hardware/drivers (including drive controllers). Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2.setup.video Unmoderated OS/2-related discussion of base video hardware/drivers. Discussion can include: - compatibility - configuring - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes Note that discussion of multimedia-related hardware/drivers still belongs in comp.os.os2.multimedia. comp.os.os2.utilities Unmoderated discussion of running DOS, Windows, and OS/2 general-purpose utilities (e.g. backup, archivers, compression, screen savers, virus scanners, shells and disk/file/program/task managers, defraggers, INI and specialized CONFIG.SYS editors, etc) under OS/2. A loose definition of a utility is software that protects your data, makes your computer run better, lets you use your computer more efficiently, or helps to resolve computer problems. Note that topic-specific utilities (e.g. networking- specific, programming-specific, game-specific, etc such as ping, source code revision controllers, Doom patchers/editors, etc) do not belong here. Note that apps such as word processors, text editors, spreadsheets, PIMs, etc belong in comp.os.os2.apps. Discussion of general-purpose utilities can include: - compatibility - configuring and using - new and upcoming releases - bugs, work-arounds, and bug-fixes comp.os.os2 reorg Final Vote Ack comp.os.os2.utilities ----------+ comp.os.os2.setup.storage ---------+| comp.os.os2.setup.video --------+|| comp.os.os2.setup.misc (replaces comp.os.os2.setup) -------+||| comp.os.os2.networking.www ------+|||| comp.os.os2.marketplace -----+||||| comp.os.os2.mail-news ----+|||||| comp.os.os2.comm unmoderated ---+||||||| |||||||| [email protected] Derek Lewis Diget YYYYYYYY [email protected] Loke Teng Yan YY-YYYYY @dekalb.vf.mmc.com:WWORMAN@"CARIB.CAMDEN.GE.COM" Wayne E. Worman YYYYYYYY [email protected] ton albers YYYYYYYY [email protected] --Y-YYY- [email protected] Alex T. Vermeulen YYYNYYYY [email protected] Ken Malark YYYYYYYY [email protected] pETRO aARTS YYYYYYYY [email protected] Dave Abercrombie YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andrew Bennett YYYYYYYY [email protected] Martin Foster YYYYYYYY [email protected] Albert R Davis, MD YYYYYYYY [email protected] Aaron D. Yonka YYYYYYYY [email protected] Aron Eisenpress YYYYYYYY [email protected] A. F. Niessner, Jr. YYYYYYYY [email protected] Drew Derbyshire YYYYYYYY [email protected] Adrian Heilbut YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andreas Kretschmer YYYYYYYY [email protected] Alan Steele YYYYYYYY [email protected] Allen Dermody YYYYYYYY [email protected] Alex Chapman YYYYYYYY [email protected] Albert Hessels YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andrew Lucas YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andrew Madoff YYYYYYYY [email protected] YYNYYYNY [email protected] Swami Anahata YYYYYYYY [email protected] Sven Anders YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andrew Hagen YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andrew Silvester YYYYNNNY [email protected] Andrew Worsley YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andy Oxenrider YYYYYYYY [email protected] Robert W. Apps YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andy Cowling YYYYYYYY [email protected] Vincent Archer NNNNNNNN [email protected] Ari Marcus YYYYYYYY [email protected] YYYYYYYY [email protected] Arild Nybraaten YYYYYYYY [email protected] Arne Georg Gleditsch YYYYYYYY [email protected] Gary W. Tash YY-YY-YY [email protected] Ariel YYYYYYYY [email protected] arnold salvati YYYYYYYY [email protected] Anthony J. Schlemmer YYYYYYYY [email protected] Steven Asher YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andre Srinivasan YNYYYYYY [email protected] Siebe Talma YYYYYYYY [email protected] Mark S. Atkinson YYYYYYYY [email protected] Aron C. Atkins YYYYYYYY [email protected] Wayne Wallace YYYYYYYY [email protected] Anthony White YYYYYYYY [email protected] Alan W. Keating YNYNYYYY [email protected] Paul Holden YYYYYYYY [email protected] Henry Chou YYYYYYYY [email protected] Clif Baker YYYYYYYY [email protected] Jay Ball YYYYYYYY [email protected] BRIAN REYNOLDS YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brett Baudin YYYYYYYY [email protected] Carsten Whimster YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian Peterson YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bob Dubler YYYYYYYY [email protected] Jochen Bedersdorfer YYYYYYYY [email protected] Ben Coleman YYYYYYYY [email protected] YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bernd Preusing YNNYYYYY [email protected] Bernhard Kohlhaas YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian Finch YYYYYYYY [email protected] Benjamin J Fogt YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian Grunkemeyer YYYYYY-Y [email protected] Bernhard Rems YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bill Marshall NNYYNNNN [email protected] Bill Kennedy --N----- [email protected] David Benjamin J YYYYYYYY [email protected] bob (b.j.) lockie YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bjorn Robbel YYYYYYYY [email protected] B.J. Herbison ----Y--- [email protected] YYYYYYYY [email protected] Blair Barnett YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bill Latura YYYYYYYY [email protected] Torben Bjerregaard YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bill Mahon YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bo Eriksson YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bob Batson YYYYYNYY [email protected] Bob Dehnhardt YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bob Ogden YYYYYYYY [email protected] Robert Bononno YNYYNNNY [email protected] Marcus Bonse YYYYYYYY [email protected] Michael Borek YYYYYYYY [email protected] Niels Olof Bouvin YYYYYYYY [email protected] John F. Boyce YYYYYYYY [email protected] John H. Boyd III YNNNNNNN [email protected] Bob Boyken YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bill Pier YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bob Quinlan YYYY---Y [email protected] Brian J. Doherty YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian Havard YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian A. Hirt YYYYYYYY [email protected] Barrie Rody YYYYYYYY [email protected] Andrew Bros YYYYNNNY [email protected] YYYYYYYY [email protected] Bruce Baugh YYYYNYYY [email protected] Kees de Bruin YYYYYYYY [email protected] John Bryant YYYYYYYY [email protected] Gregory Bryant YYYYYYYY [email protected] M. Brandon Swain YYYYYYYY [email protected] George O. Bukwa YYYYYYYY [email protected] Mike Burgett YYYYYYYY [email protected] Jeff Busch YYYYYYNY [email protected] Brett L. Veenstra YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian Ruth YYYYYYYY [email protected] Clemens Sibon YYYYYYYY [email protected] Clinton Chamberlin YYYYYYYY [email protected] Carolyn Heller YYYYYYYY [email protected] Calvin J. Bolwerk YYYYYYYY [email protected] Jimmie R. Farmer YYYYYYYY [email protected] Mike Cambria 25-Apr-1995 1130 -0400 YYYYYYYY [email protected] Michele Casalgrandi YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian J. Catlin YNYYYYYY [email protected] Carlos Ugarte YNYNYYYY [email protected] Chris Bailey, Peritus Softwa YYYYYYYY [email protected] Claus Cornett YYYYYYYY [email protected] Carol Conner YYYYYYYY [email protected] CENA YYYYYYYY [email protected] Clark K. Gaylord YYYYY--- [email protected] Chad Brockman YYYYYYYY [email protected] Demaree Chaim YYYYYYYY [email protected] Carl Chalek YYYYYYYY [email protected] chandler howell NNNYYYNN [email protected] Christopher B. Schultz YYYYYYYY [email protected] Chip Rosenthal --N----- [email protected] Chip Salzenberg YYYYYYYN [email protected] Carlos Hoces YYYYYYYY [email protected] Chris Ingram ----YYYY [email protected] Chris Maltby YYYYYYYY [email protected] Chris March YYYYYYYY [email protected] Christian Kullander YYYYYYYY [email protected] Joseph Christie YYYYYYYY [email protected] Carl H. Sayres YYYYYYYY [email protected] Charles Williams YYYYYYYY [email protected] Jim Seymour YYYYYYYY [email protected] Colin Jensen ----NNN- [email protected] Cletus Lee YYYYYYYY [email protected] Brian Serviss YYYYYYYY [email protected] Colin Brace YYYYYYYY [email protected] Thomas Collins NNNNNNNN [email protected] Chuck Coronella YYYYYYYY [email protected] Randy Coulman YYYYYYYY [email protected] C. R. Oldham YYYNYYYY [email protected] Francis A Ney, Jr. YYYYYYYY [email protected] K. Crouch -------- [email protected] Christopher R. 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