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From [email protected] Mon Mar 20 16:15:59 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (James Ruzicka) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.engr.manufacturing,sci.engr.control,sci.engr.chem,sci.environment,sci.engr.mech Subject: RFD: misc.industry.pulp-and paper Followup-To: news.groups Date: 20 Mar 1995 15:30:00 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 52 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6465 news.groups:140379 sci.engr:14858 sci.engr.manufacturing:4693 sci.engr.control:4956 sci.engr.chem:6701 sci.environment:62579 sci.engr.mech:12856  			Request for Discussion (RFD)  Newsgroup: misc.industry.pulp-and-paper Status: unmoderated Distribution: worldwide Summary: A forum for technical discussions on the pulp and paper ndustry Proponents: Jim and Yolanda Ruzicka <[email protected]>  CHARTER  The new newsgroup will focus on technical areas of the pulp and paper industry.  Some possible areas of discussion would be: manufacturing, process engineering (i.e.- coating, bleaching, deinking, etc), process controls, design and project engineering, industry trends, safety and environmental issues, maintenance, etc.  Since the primary focus of this group is technical discussion about the industry, any discussion about any legal/moral issues (i.e.- dioxins polluting the environment, etc.) should be discussed elsewhere.  RATIONALE  Although there are some newsgroups (which are cross-posted with this RFD) which occasionally discuss a pulp and paper related topic, there is currently no newsgroup with the primary focus on the pulp and paper industry.  Currently, a reader interested in pulp and paper industry topics much search through large volumes of information in other newsgroups and scan possibly hundreds of topics to find one of interest.  Since the newsgroup focuses on an "industry"  and not on a discipline, readers from a variety of technical backgrounds ( chemical, electrical, controls, mechanical, etc.)  would participate in this group.  This newsgroup would also provide a great opportunity for networking with others in the pulp and paper industry.  Many people working in this industry (especially at the manufacturing sites...mills) have limited access to networking with peers at other locations.  Currently, there are technical publications and seminars, but only a few have the time or the budget to participate.  Due to the many positive responses from a brief posting describing this new group in other newsgroups, and inquiries about  Internet newsgroups in pulp and paper trade journals, there is shown to be a substantial interest in the formation of such a group.  DISTRIBUTION  Besides being posted in "news.announce.newgroups" and "news.groups", this RFD is also posted in the following groups:  sci.engr, sci.engr.manufacturing, sci.engr.control, sci.engr.chem, sci.environment, sci.engr.mech  From [email protected] Mon May  8 18:45:11 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bill Aten) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.control,sci.engr.manufacturing,sci.engr.mech,sci.environment Subject: CFV: misc.industry.pulp-and-paper Followup-To: poster Date: 8 May 1995 12:42:49 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 146 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 30 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6774 news.groups:148317 sci.engr:16030 sci.engr.chem:7738 sci.engr.control:5516 sci.engr.manufacturing:5430 sci.engr.mech:14503 sci.environment:66451                           FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                 unmoderated group misc.industry.pulp-and-paper  Newsgroups line: misc.industry.pulp-and-paper	Technical topics in the pulp and paper industry.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only, contact the votetaker, Bill Aten <[email protected]>. For questions about the proposed group, contact the proponents, James and Yolanda Ruzicka <[email protected]>.  RATIONALE  This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent.      The RFD has developed 97% positive response for it's creation.  In     addition to institutional organizations such as TAPPI, IPST, SUNY, UBC     representing thousands of papermakers, individuals from Europe, Asia,     Australia, the US and Canada have replied indicating support for such a     forum.  Articles written in the trade journals have called for a newsgroup     to be formed for this industry.  Support has come from outside the paper     industry as well, with suppliers to the industry and environmental concern     groups indicating a desire to participate.  The formation of     misc.industry.pulp-and-paper will provide the worldwide access to     resources, needed and requested by the industry, that newsgroups were     intentioned for.  CHARTER  This is the newsgroup charter as submitted by the proponent.      misc.industry.pulp-and-paper        This newsgroup will focus on technical areas of the pulp and paper        industry.  Some possible areas of discussion would be: manufacturing,        process engineering (i.e.- coating, bleaching, deinking, etc), process        controls, design and project engineering, industry trends, safety and        environmental issues, maintenance, etc.         Since the primary focus on this group is technical discussions about        the industry, any discussion about any legal/moral issues (i.e. dioxins        polluting the environment, etc.) should be discussed elsewhere.   DISTRIBUTION  This CFV has been cross-posted to:   news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.engr, sci.engr.chem,   sci.engr.mech, sci.engr.control, sci.engr.manufacturing, sci.environment   OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV  IMPORTANT:  If anyone gave you a pre-completed ballot which did not leave the voting choice up to you, you should modify the vote to reflect your choice of YES, NO or ABSTAIN next to the item in the ballot.  If you give anyone copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified.  Distributing pre-filled in ballots or modified copies of this CFV is considered voting fraud.  The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups, and the e-mail server at    <[email protected]> The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender.  Your message may be left empty because any contents will be ignored.   HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything below the "END OF BALLOT" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines, and do not change the group name.  In other words, remove everything except the ballot.  It will be greatly appreciated by the votetaker if you do NOT forward the entire CFV back to me--this mail is archived.  Give your name on the line that asks for it.  To vote, place a YES in the brackets to vote for it, or place a NO in the brackets to vote against it. If you don't want to vote on the group, place an ABSTAIN in the brackets. If you leave the bracket blank, your vote will be rejected for failure to cast a vote.  Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then MAIL the ballot to:  <[email protected]> Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  Quick voting checklist: 1) Fill in the ballot form below.  Don't forget to include your Real Name. 2) Delete everything but the ballot in your reply to this CFV. 3) Make sure your reply goes to <[email protected]>.  ===== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything BEFORE this line ================  Please DO NOT alter, modify, or delete any of the information in this ballot. Provide your name where asked, and insert your vote inside the bracket(s).  misc.industry.pulp-and-paper Ballot  (Do not remove this marker!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Give your Real Name here (on this line) -->: (If you do not give your real name, your vote may be rejected.)  [Your Vote]  Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [     YES ]  example.yes.vote [      NO ]  example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention  [         ]  misc.industry.pulp-and-paper ===== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything AFTER this line =======================   IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES  Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledgement by e-mail.  If you do not receive one within several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  If you later change your mind, you may vote again.  To erase your vote and eliminate your address and vote from the final results listing, vote again using the CANCEL example shown above.  Just be aware that duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes (the vote must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker).  Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve only to cancel any previous vote.  Abstentions are noted in the final vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely (this is the only difference between the two).  In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.  There will be a five-day period following the voting period during which the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all counted votes must be YES.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  From [email protected] Thu May 25 18:47:35 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bill Aten) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.control,sci.engr.manufacturing,sci.engr.mech,sci.environment Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.industry.pulp-and-paper Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 23 May 1995 16:00:16 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 161 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 30 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6882 news.groups:150946 sci.engr:16389 sci.engr.chem:8031 sci.engr.control:5694 sci.engr.manufacturing:5706 sci.engr.mech:14954 sci.environment:67901                           LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                 unmoderated group misc.industry.pulp-and-paper  Newsgroups line: misc.industry.pulp-and-paper	Technical topics in the pulp and paper industry.   Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only, contact the votetaker, Bill Aten <[email protected]>. For questions about the proposed group, contact the proponents, James and Yolanda Ruzicka <[email protected]>.   RATIONALE  This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent.      The RFD has developed 97% positive response for it's creation.  In     addition to institutional organizations such as TAPPI, IPST, SUNY, UBC     representing thousands of papermakers, individuals from Europe, Asia,     Australia, the US and Canada have replied indicating support for such a     forum.  Articles written in the trade journals have called for a newsgroup     to be formed for this industry.  Support has come from outside the paper     industry as well, with suppliers to the industry and environmental concern     groups indicating a desire to participate.  The formation of     misc.industry.pulp-and-paper will provide the worldwide access to     resources, needed and requested by the industry, that newsgroups were     intentioned for.   CHARTER  This is the newsgroup charter as submitted by the proponent.      misc.industry.pulp-and-paper        This newsgroup will focus on technical areas of the pulp and paper        industry.  Some possible areas of discussion would be: manufacturing,        process engineering (i.e.- coating, bleaching, deinking, etc), process        controls, design and project engineering, industry trends, safety and        environmental issues, maintenance, etc.         Since the primary focus on this group is technical discussions about        the industry, any discussion about any legal/moral issues (i.e. dioxins        polluting the environment, etc.) should be discussed elsewhere.   DISTRIBUTION  This CFV has been cross-posted to:   news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.engr, sci.engr.chem,   sci.engr.mech, sci.engr.control, sci.engr.manufacturing, sci.environment   OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV  IMPORTANT:  If anyone gave you a pre-completed ballot which did not leave the voting choice up to you, you should modify the vote to reflect your choice of YES, NO or ABSTAIN next to the item in the ballot.  If you give anyone copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified.  Distributing pre-filled in ballots or modified copies of this CFV is considered voting fraud.  The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups, and the e-mail server at    <[email protected]> The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender.  Your message may be left empty because any contents will be ignored.   HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything below the "END OF BALLOT" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines, and do not change the group name.  In other words, remove everything except the ballot.  It will be greatly appreciated by the votetaker if you do NOT forward the entire CFV back to me--this mail is archived.  Give your name on the line that asks for it.  To vote, place a YES in the brackets to vote for it, or place a NO in the brackets to vote against it. If you don't want to vote on the group, place an ABSTAIN in the brackets. If you leave the bracket blank, your vote will be rejected for failure to cast a vote.  Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then MAIL the ballot to:  <[email protected]> Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  Quick voting checklist: 1) Fill in the ballot form below.  Don't forget to include your Real Name. 2) Delete everything but the ballot in your reply to this CFV. 3) Make sure your reply goes to <[email protected]>.  ===== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything BEFORE this line ================  *** PLEASE ***     DO NOT alter, modify, or delete any of the information in this ballot!  misc.industry.pulp-and-paper Ballot  (Do not remove this marker!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Examples showing how to indicate your vote (DO NOT vote in this section):  [     YES ]  example.yes.vote [      NO ]  example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention ------------------------------------------------------------------------------  In order to properly record your vote, please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the following section: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Give your Real Name here (on this line) -->: (If you do not give your real name, your vote may be rejected.)  ---------------  Insert your vote inside the brackets for each newsgroup listed below:   Your Vote   Group  ---------   ----- [         ]  misc.industry.pulp-and-paper ------------------------------------------------------------------------------  ===== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything AFTER this line =======================   IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES  Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledgement by e-mail.  If you do not receive one within several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  If you later change your mind, you may vote again.  To erase your vote and eliminate your address and vote from the final results listing, vote again using the CANCEL example shown above.  Just be aware that duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes (the vote must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker).  Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve only to cancel any previous vote.  Abstentions are noted in the final vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely (this is the only difference between the two).  In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.  There will be a five-day period following the voting period during which the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all counted votes must be YES.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  
 
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