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From [email protected] Sat Feb 13 12:45:06 1993 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,rec.kids Path: uunet!enterpoop.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bob Larson) Subject: RFD: comp.os.msdos.kids Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 19:24:57 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 72 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3200 news.groups:65618 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:34326 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:33037 comp.os.msdos.apps:9515 comp.os.msdos.misc:11045 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION RFD for creation of comp.os.msdos.kids group for discussions regarding the use of ibmpc-compatible computers by children. REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION Create an UNMODERATED Usenet newsgroup called "comp.os.msdos.kids". This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups and mailing lists whose readers may have an interest in the discussion about the new group, including comp.sys.ibm.pc.games, comp.os.msdos.apps, comp.os.msdos.misc, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc, misc.kids, and the mailing list ibmpc-kids. Follow-up discussion will take place in "news.groups". PURPOSE The newsgroup "comp.os.msdos.kids" would be a forum for discussing all aspects of the use of ibm-pc compatible computers by children, including games software, educational software, and hardware. Topics such as software and hardware selection and comparisons, reviews of software, and troubleshooting will be discussed. It is anticipated that the predominate readership of the newsgroup would be parents, but participation by professionals in the educational system as well as children will be encouraged. A "comp.os.msdos.kids" newsgroup would provide its readers an opportunity to discuss their experiences, ideas, and information with others. RATIONALE Much of the discussion related to the use of computers by children takes place on a number of existing newsgroups, particularly misc.kids and comp.sys.ibm.pc.games. A mailing list was recently created for the discussion of such topics, however the traffic on the list in it's first few weeks was greater than anticipated, taxing local mail relays as well as the list coordinator. It is likely that past traffic patterns on newsgroups has been sparse due to a lack of a central forum. The creation of a "comp.os.msdos.kids" newsgroup will provide such a central forum for discussions. It is hoped that the creation of a group "comp.os.msdos.kids" will encourage and facilitate a greater amount of collaborating of information and experiences by individuals. Alternatives to placing the group in the comp.os.msdos hierarchy are welcome. Possibilities include but are not limited to: comp.sys.ibm.pc.kids comp.apps.kids comp.os.msdos.apps.kids misc.kids.computers NEWSGROUP CREATION The discussion period will be from 30 January 1993 to 2 March 1993. Please post all discussion in "news.groups". If a consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period, a CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted at that time. The voting period will last for 30 days. -- Bob Larson Illinois State Water Survey [email protected] 2204 Griffith Drive Voice: (217)333-7955 Champaign, IL 61820 Fax: (217)333-6540 From [email protected] Thu Mar 11 11:33:36 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bob Larson) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,misc.kids Subject: CFV: misc.kids.computer Followup-To: poster Date: 11 Mar 1993 01:25:39 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 78 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3341 news.groups:67877 comp.sys.mac.games:23698 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:41334 misc.kids:71462 This is a CALL FOR VOTES for or against the creation of a new, unmoderated Usenet newsgroup called "misc.kids.computer". Following the thirty-day discussion period just ended, it is proposed that the group misc.kids.computer be created as a vehicle for discussions of all aspects of the use of computers by children. THE VOTE To vote for or against the creation of misc.kids.computer, send an E-mail message to the following address: To vote YES: [email protected] To vote NO: [email protected] DO NOT post to Usenet. Do NOT reply to this message. The wording of the message can be anything you like, as long as it is an *unambiguous* vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup. Suggested wording: "I vote FOR the creation of misc.kids.computer as proposed." "I vote AGAINST the creation of misc.kids.computer as proposed." Only votes *mailed* to the above addresses will count. Any ambiguous wording, such as "I vote for misc.kids.computer, as long as ...", or "I vote NO unless ...", will not count. VOTING PERIOD: Votes will be accepted from now through 1 April 1993. Votes postmarked after 1 April 1993 will not be counted. At weekly intervals during the voting period, a reminder Call For Votes a "mass acknowledgment" of votes.will be posted to the net. This is a list of people whose votes have been received (but not how they voted). If you have voted, but are not on the list, send your vote again. (Don't worry, only one vote per person will count.) AFTER THE VOTE: Shortly after 1 April 1993, the results will be posted to the net. This will consist of a list of all those who voted, and how they voted. Make sure that your vote is properly recorded here; there is a five-day grace period during which you can correct the record. After the five-day period, the vote is final. If the "YES" votes outnumber the "NO" votes by a 2:1 ratio, and also by a margin of 100 votes or more, then the news.announce.newgroups moderator will send out a message for the creation of misc.kids.computer. If the "YES" votes fail to attain this margin of victory, then under the Usenet guidelines, the idea of the misc.kids.computer newsgroup will not be entertained again for at least another six months. If you have an opinion for or against the creation of the group misc.kids.computer, please vote. If you have questions or problems, E-mail me. CHARTER The unmoderated group misc.kids.computer will function as a vehicle for discussions of all aspects of the use of computers by children. Discussion will not be limited to any particular platform or operating system. Topic may include, but will not be limited to: game software, educational software, hardware choices, and other topics as long as the topic pertains to the use of computers by children. It is anticipated that the predominate readership of the newsgroup would be parents, but participation by professionals in the educational system will be encouraged. -- Bob Larson Illinois State Water Survey [email protected] 2204 Griffith Drive Voice: (217)333-7955 Champaign, IL 61820 Fax: (217)333-6540 From [email protected] Mon Mar 29 20:38:24 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bob Larson) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,misc.kids Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: misc.kids.computer Followup-To: poster Date: 26 Mar 1993 11:05:36 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 250 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3379 news.groups:68537 comp.sys.mac.games:24498 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:45037 misc.kids:73013 This is a 2nd CALL FOR VOTES for or against the creation of a new, unmoderated Usenet newsgroup called "misc.kids.computer" and an acknowledgement of votes recieved thus far. Appended to the end of this meassge is a list of all votes received as of 6:00 p.m. CST, 17 March 1993. THE VOTE To vote for or against the creation of misc.kids.computer, send an E-mail message to the following address: To vote YES: [email protected] To vote NO: [email protected] DO NOT post to Usenet. Do NOT reply to this message. The wording of the message can be anything you like, as long as it is an *unambiguous* vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup. Suggested wording: "I vote FOR the creation of misc.kids.computer as proposed." "I vote AGAINST the creation of misc.kids.computer as proposed." Only votes *mailed* to the above addresses will count. Any ambiguous wording, such as "I vote for misc.kids.computer, as long as ...", or "I vote NO unless ...", will not count. VOTING PERIOD: Votes will be accepted from now through 1 April 1993. Votes postmarked after 1 April 1993 will not be counted. At weekly intervals during the voting period, a reminder Call For Votes a "mass acknowledgment" of votes.will be posted to the net. This is a list of people whose votes have been received (but not how they voted). If you have voted, but are not on the list, send your vote again. (Don't worry, only one vote per person will count.) AFTER THE VOTE: Shortly after 1 April 1993, the results will be posted to the net. This will consist of a list of all those who voted, and how they voted. Make sure that your vote is properly recorded here; there is a five-day grace period during which you can correct the record. After the five-day period, the vote is final. If the "YES" votes outnumber the "NO" votes by a 2:1 ratio, and also by a margin of 100 votes or more, then the news.announce.newgroups moderator will send out a message for the creation of misc.kids.computer. If the "YES" votes fail to attain this margin of victory, then under the Usenet guidelines, the idea of the misc.kids.computer newsgroup will not be entertained again for at least another six months. If you have an opinion for or against the creation of the group misc.kids.computer, please vote. If you have questions or problems, E-mail me. CHARTER The unmoderated group misc.kids.computer will function as a vehicle for discussions of all aspects of the use of computers by children. Discussion will not be limited to any particular platform or operating system. Topic may include, but will not be limited to: game software, educational software, hardware choices, and other topics as long as the topic pertains to the use of computers by children. It is anticipated that the predominate readership of the newsgroup would be parents, but participation by professionals in the educational system will be encouraged. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Votes received as of 6:00 p.m. CST, 17 March 1993. [email protected] (Ramesh Fernando) [email protected] (Mark Johnson) [email protected] (Alan Moses) [email protected] (Ali Durgunoglu) [email protected] (Aliza R. Panitz) [email protected] [email protected] (Andrew Hackard) [email protected] Ari Rabinowitz, WorkStations x6518 <[email protected]> [email protected] (Stephanie da Silva) [email protected] (Ed Bailey) [email protected] [email protected] (Beth Schwindt) Bill Rubin <[email protected]> bill%[email protected] (Bill Neisius) [email protected] (Bruce P. Samuels) [email protected] (Sean Brady) [email protected] (Hak Lien Chua) Carol E. Newby <[email protected]> CCC/5487/Dave/FL 218 <[email protected]> [email protected] (Celia H Modell) [email protected] (craig hamre) charles%[email protected] (Charles Emmons) Chris Marble <[email protected]> [email protected] (Clark Alexander) [email protected] (David Coker) [email protected] (Don O'Shall,(Access Control)) Dave Rawding <[email protected]> Dave Rooney <[email protected]> David H. Brierley <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dave Irwin) [email protected] (Rich Donald) [email protected] (Diane Segelhorst) [email protected] (Denize Tan) [email protected] (Dave Wiseman) [email protected] (John E. Mendenhall) [email protected] (Ed McGuire) Ephraim Vishniac <[email protected]> Eric J. Olson <[email protected]> Ernest A. Cline <[email protected]> [email protected] <[email protected]> [email protected] (Eric V. Wong) [email protected] (Sean Nolan) [email protected] (Michael Fath) [email protected] (william fawley) [email protected] [email protected] G. Wayne Nichols <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jerry Gally) [email protected] (Gary van Rassel) [email protected] (Geoff Burd) GRAEME WIGHTMAN, SEQEB" <[email protected]> Gregory Sherar <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Richard M. Hartman) [email protected] (Sebastian Daniel Hassinger) [email protected] (B.J.) [email protected] (harry ide) Howard Gordon <[email protected]> ihp%[email protected] [email protected] (Jacek Smits) James & Kelly Gruetzner <[email protected]> [email protected] (Janet Castaneda) [email protected] (James Glidewell) [email protected] (Jim Tubman) [email protected] (travis jensen) [email protected] (John G. Thompson) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Kresse) [email protected] (Jim Buja) [email protected] (Jim Crozman) [email protected] (Jim Loudon) Joe Keane <[email protected]> [email protected] (Joe Kagenski - Sun BOS Hardware) John Threadgill, New Zealand Forest Research Institute [email protected] (John Gallant) Joshua Randall <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Hesterberg) [email protected] (John Vella) [email protected] (Peter Kaminski) [email protected] (George S Kardaras) [email protected] (Margaret T Kelliher) Ken Fishkin <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Vachaspathi Kompella) Kung Chyun Tang <[email protected]> L. Merrill Palmer <[email protected]> [email protected] ((Larry Barnett x5474)~ABCDEFGHIJLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ#HBI7695474) [email protected] (Bob Larson) Laurie Mann <[email protected]> Lewis M. Dreblow <[email protected]> Linda D. Cornell <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gary Lintner) [email protected] (Lonnie Barnett) [email protected] (Barbara Lutes) [email protected] (Larry W. Virden) [email protected] M.J. Horsfall <[email protected]> [email protected] Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]> Marc Rouleau <[email protected]> [email protected] (Marcia) Mark Kaufman 3633 <[email protected]> Mark R. Miller <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark Nakamura) [email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Mike Hatz) [email protected] Michael Quinn[email protected]> [email protected] (Doug Mink) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Mauro Nardini) [email protected] (Mike Cook) [email protected] [email protected] (Nai-Chi Lee) [email protected] [email protected] (Neal Smith) [email protected] [email protected] (Dennis Dudek) [email protected] (Peter Rigsbee) Pasty White <[email protected]> Paula Burch <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Leonard J. Peirce) Phil Longstaff <[email protected]> [email protected] (Paul S R Chisholm) [email protected] (Robert Dorsett) [email protected] [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Rob McAteer) Rodger Madison <[email protected]> Roland Kaltefleiter <[email protected]> Ronnie B. Kon <[email protected]> [email protected] (Rich Scire) [email protected] (Ruth Holliday) S Zhu <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Emilie T. Saulnier) [email protected] (Anthony Schrock x29558) Scott Patlin <[email protected]> [email protected] ( Scott Majdecki) [email protected] (Sean Simmons) Sgt. Kleper <[email protected]> [email protected] smz%[email protected] Spiros Triantafyllopoulos <[email protected]> Stan Isaacs <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Stefano Casertano) Stephanie Bodoff <[email protected]> Stephen Lau <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Sterling) [email protected] (Rob Strom) [email protected] (Gary Stuart) [email protected] tkoppel%[email protected] (Ted Koppel) Tod B Bussert <[email protected]> Tom Pfeifer <[email protected]> Travis Belton <[email protected]> [email protected] (Stephen C. Trier) [email protected] (Mark Olson) Vicki O'Day <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (V. Stern) [email protected] [email protected] (Wayne S. Mery) [email protected] [email protected] (Daniel Yuen) From [email protected] Wed Apr 7 11:45:33 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bob Larson) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,misc.kids Subject: RESULT: misc.kids.computer passes 224:30 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 6 Apr 1993 12:33:09 -0400 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 276 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3436 news.groups:69266 comp.sys.mac.games:25004 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:47581 misc.kids:74088 Presented here is a tally of votes for the misc.kids.computer proposal. The voting period ended 1 April 1993, by which time a total of 254 votes were cast as follows: YES votes: 224 (88%) NO votes: 30 (12%) The proposal thereby passed both voting criteria (100 more YES votes than NO votes, and at least 2/3 YES votes). Below is the breakup of who voted for and against the newsgroup. If you voted but do not find your name here, please contact me at [email protected] Thanks to all who voted! NO Votes: (30) ARIS BARTZOKAS <[email protected]> Eric J. Olson <[email protected]> Ernest A. Cline <[email protected]> [email protected] Joshua Randall <[email protected]> Laurel Cheap <[email protected]> Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]> Roland Kaltefleiter <[email protected]> Scott Patlin <[email protected]> Stephen Lau <[email protected]> [email protected] (Stephanie da Silva) [email protected] (Ed Bailey) [email protected] [email protected] (Dave Carr) [email protected] (Dave Irwin) [email protected] (David Mosher) [email protected] (Diane Segelhorst) [email protected] (Gordon Harding) [email protected] (Herbert M Petro) [email protected] (Aaron L Dickey) [email protected] [email protected] (Marcia) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Leonard J. Peirce) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] tkoppel%[email protected] (Ted Koppel) [email protected] (Stephen C. Trier) [email protected] (Kate Gregory) YES votes: (224) (Lcdr C. Conrad et al) <[email protected]> Ari Rabinowitz, WorkStations x6518 <[email protected]> Beth Weiss <[email protected]> Bill Rubin <[email protected]> CCC/5487/Dave/FL 218 <[email protected]> Carol E. Newby <[email protected]> Chris Marble <[email protected]> Christine A. Quinn <[email protected]> Clarke Thacher <[email protected]> [email protected] Dave Rawding <[email protected]> Dave Rooney <[email protected]> David H. Brierley <[email protected]> Diane Bleything <[email protected]> Eileen Murray <[email protected]> Ephraim Vishniac <[email protected]> Eric R Jacobson-1 <[email protected]> G. Wayne Nichols <[email protected]> [email protected] GRAEME WIGHTMAN, SEQEB <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gerald Ruderman) Grace Sylvan <[email protected]> Graham (G.S.) Ashby <[email protected]> Gregory Sherar <[email protected]> Howard Gordon <[email protected]> James & Kelly Gruetzner <[email protected]> Jeff Marsh <[email protected]> Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a <[email protected]> Jim Ault <[email protected]> Joe Keane <[email protected]> [email protected] (Joe Kagenski - Sun BOS Hardware) John McGing <[email protected]> John Threadgill, New Zealand Forest Research Institute Julia Rodriguez <[email protected]> Ken Fishkin <[email protected]> Kung Chyun Tang <[email protected]> L. Merrill Palmer <[email protected]> Larry Kollar <[email protected]> Laurie Mann <[email protected]> Lewis M. Dreblow <[email protected]> Linda D. Cornell <[email protected]> M.J. Horsfall <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Marc Rouleau <[email protected]> Mark Kaufman 3633 <[email protected]> Mark R. Miller <[email protected]> Matthias Urlichs <[email protected]> Michael J. Thibodeau <[email protected]> Michael Quinn [email protected]> Michele Evard <[email protected]> Neal C. Wyse <[email protected]> [email protected] Pasty White <[email protected]> Paula Burch <[email protected]> Phil Longstaff <[email protected]> Randy Esch <[email protected]> Richard Wendland <[email protected]> Rodger Madison <[email protected]> Ronnie B. Kon <[email protected]> S Zhu <[email protected]> [email protected] Sascha Wildner <[email protected]> Sgt. Kleper <[email protected]> Spiros Triantafyllopoulos <[email protected]> Stan Isaacs <[email protected]> Stephanie Bodoff <[email protected]> Tod B Bussert <[email protected]> Tom Pfeifer <[email protected]> Travis Belton <[email protected]> Vicki O'Day <[email protected]> Vinny Luciano <[email protected]> WOLFE W R <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ramesh Fernando) [email protected] (Mark Johnson) [email protected] [email protected] (Alan Moses) [email protected] (Ali Durgunoglu) [email protected] (Aliza R. Panitz) [email protected] [email protected] (Andrew Hackard) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Beth Schwindt) [email protected] (Brian Harvey) bill%[email protected] (Bill Neisius) [email protected] (Bruce P. Samuels) [email protected] (Sean Brady) [email protected] (Hak Lien Chua) [email protected] (Ben Cottrell) [email protected] (Celia H Modell) [email protected] (John William Chambless) [email protected] (craig hamre) charles%[email protected] (Charles Emmons) [email protected] (Clark Alexander) [email protected] (David Coker) [email protected] (Don O'Shall,(Access Control)) [email protected] (Rich Donald) [email protected] (Don Baldwin) [email protected] (Denize Tan) [email protected] (Dave Wiseman) [email protected] (John E. Mendenhall) [email protected] (Ed McGuire) [email protected] <[email protected]> [email protected] (Eric V. Wong) [email protected] (James Hague) [email protected] (Sean Nolan) [email protected] (Michael Fath) [email protected] (william fawley) [email protected] [email protected] (Gabe Helou) [email protected] (Jerry Gally) [email protected] (Chinnappa Ganapathy) [email protected] (Gary van Rassel) [email protected] (Gregory D. Sjaardema) [email protected] (Geoff Burd) [email protected] (Jeffrey Hunt, American) [email protected] [email protected] (Richard M. Hartman) [email protected] (Sebastian Daniel Hassinger) [email protected] (Helaman R.P. Ferguson) [email protected] (B.J.) [email protected] (harry ide) [email protected] (Buffy Hyler) ihp%[email protected] [email protected] (Jacek Smits) [email protected] (Janet Castaneda) [email protected] (JOSE ANTONIO BASTO) [email protected] (James Glidewell) [email protected] (Jim Tubman) [email protected] (Jean Libera) [email protected] (travis jensen) [email protected] (John G. Thompson) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Kresse) [email protected] (Jim Buja) [email protected] (Jim Crozman) [email protected] (Jim Loudon) [email protected] (John Hesterberg) [email protected] (John Vella) [email protected] (Peter Kaminski) [email protected] (George S Kardaras) [email protected] (Margaret T Kelliher) [email protected] [email protected] (Michael Kinstrey) [email protected] [email protected] (Vachaspathi Kompella) [email protected] ((Larry Barnett x5474)~ABCDEFGHIJLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ#HBI7695474) [email protected] (Bob Larson) [email protected] (Lisa Dawes) [email protected] (Gary Lintner) [email protected] (Lonnie Barnett) [email protected] ( Francis Lustman ) [email protected] (Barbara Lutes) [email protected] (Larry W. Virden) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Mark Nakamura) [email protected] (Aaron J. Marks) [email protected] (Mark Verschell) [email protected] (Eric Marshall) [email protected] (Matt Bartlett) [email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] (Massimo Mazzoni) [email protected]u (Mike Hatz) [email protected] (Doug Mink) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Mauro Nardini) [email protected] (Mike Cook) [email protected] (Nai-Chi Lee) [email protected] [email protected] (Neal Smith) [email protected] (Graham O'Neil) [email protected] (Dennis Dudek) [email protected] (Peter Rigsbee) [email protected] [email protected] (Paul Chang) [email protected] (Donna Perez) [email protected] (Phillip Edward Pfeiffer IV) [email protected] (David Weingart) [email protected] (Paul Morris) [email protected] <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Paul S R Chisholm) [email protected] (Peter Kendell) [email protected] (Robert Dorsett) [email protected] (Ron Dippold) [email protected] [email protected] (Rich Masse) [email protected] (Rob McAteer) [email protected] [email protected] (Rich Scire) [email protected] (Ruth Holliday) [email protected] (Russell Schulz) [email protected] (Victor Sedlacko) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Emilie T. 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