From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 03:21:51 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1893 news.groups:40476 alt.security:5894 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Dave HayesSubject: RFD: comp.security.talk Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1992 05:50:48 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 20 Name: comp.security.talk Status: unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to be a forum for rational discussion on security issues as they apply to computers and networks. As this is a wide subject area, at this point no attempt will be made to categorize valid topics of discussion. What should NOT be acceptable are: -Flames -Personal attacks -Security by obscurity arguments -- Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA [email protected] [email protected] ames!elroy!dxh From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:57:42 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2210 news.groups:48778 alt.security:6346 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Dave Hayes) Subject: CFV: comp.security.misc Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:12:37 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 64 [*] Newsgroup Name: comp.security.misc Status: unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to be a forum for rational discussion on security issues as they apply to computers and networks. This is a wide subject area and as such no attempt will be made to specifically limit the discussion topics as long as the general subject is computer security. However, topics that are definately NOT acceptable are: -Flames -Personal attacks -Security by obscurity arguments [*] Voting Procedure You may use one of two methods: 1) Reply by MAIL to this message. In your reply, pick one of the lines below that best represents your voting intent, and delete the other one. I vote YES on comp.security.misc I vote NO on comp.security.misc 2) Send a mail message to: [email protected] or ...usc!elroy!elxr!sec-vote with the desired vote and newsgroup in the same line...e.g. yes on comp.security.misc no on comp.security.misc In EITHER case you should get an acknowledgment back from the software stating how you voted and acknowledging receipt of your vote. In NO case will posted votes be accepted. In ANY case unless a specific vote is found in the body of the message, the message will be rejected and you will be told why. [*] Voting period This will be from 4/13/92 at 6:00 AM PDT to 5/13/92 at 6:00 PM PDT [*] Adminstrivia Update CFV's and mass acknowledgments of votes received to date will be posted periodically. Questions, problems or comments with the voting software should be addressed to me. ---- Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA [email protected] [email protected] ...usc!elroy!dxh If you want to get rid of somebody, just tell them something for their own good. From [email protected] Mon Apr 27 14:08:26 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2266 news.groups:49811 alt.security:6440 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Dave Hayes) Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.security.misc Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1992 05:42:51 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 267 [*] Newsgroup Name: comp.security.misc Status: unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to be a forum for rational discussion on security issues as they apply to computers and networks. This is a wide subject area and as such no attempt will be made to specifically limit the discussion topics as long as the general subject is computer security. However, topics that are definately NOT acceptable are: -Flames -Personal attacks -Security by obscurity arguments [*] Voting Procedure You may use one of two methods: 1) Reply by MAIL to this message. In your reply, pick one of the lines below that best represents your voting intent, and delete the other one. I vote YES on comp.security.misc I vote NO on comp.security.misc 2) Send a mail message to: [email protected] or ...usc!elroy!elxr!sec-vote with the desired vote and newsgroup in the same line...e.g. yes on comp.security.misc no on comp.security.misc In EITHER case you should get an acknowledgment back from the software stating how you voted and acknowledging receipt of your vote. In NO case will posted votes be accepted. In ANY case unless a specific vote is found in the body of the message, the message will be rejected and you will be told why. [*] Voting period will be from 4/13/92 at 6:00 AM PDT to 5/13/92 at 18:00 PM PDT. [*] The following people have already voted... "(Magnus Kempe)" "Cliff Hathaway" "Dave White" "David A. Wagner" "Eric A. Anderson" "Gregory R. Weiss" "James R. Macak" "Paul M. Mickel" "Stephen Potter" "Wilhelm Buehler" "tim" [email protected] Alan Coopersmith Andreas Israel Andy Malis B.J. 15-Apr-1992 0941 Barry Margolin Benjamin Fan Bill Lipa Boris Hemkemeier Brian Fitzgerald Christopher Davis [email protected] Dan Boehlke Darren Bock Dave Goldberg Dave Hayes Dave Sill David Fetrow David Newton Doug Siebert EWILTS Erik Johansen [email protected] ([email protected]) Helen Trillian Rose Ian Holland <@nmpd.oz.au:[email protected]> Irving_Wolfe James Harvey Jamie Gritton Jeff Makey Jerry Whelan Jim Duncan Joel B Levin John G Dobnick Jon Iles Jyrki Kuoppala Karl Kleine Kian-Tat Lim [email protected] (Martien Kuunders) [email protected] (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Marc Moorcroft Mark J. Steiglitz [email protected] Matthew Farwell Matthew Lyle Michael Gehrke News Administrator Olin Sibert Paul Leyland Pekka Pessi Per Abrahamsen Phill Everson Phill Everson Po Shan Cheah [email protected] (Ari Rabinowitz, WorkStations x6518) Rafi Sadowsky [email protected] (Randy Gregor) Reino de Boer Rickard Schoultz Robert J Carter Roger Hale Scott Northrop Serge Volkoff [email protected] (StarWatcher) Steve Baur Steve Rumsby Steve Simmons Steve Watt -- KD6GGD Tony Wilson Tybalt the Paste Man Vern Cole -- Systems Manager Werner Uhrig [email protected] (Arthur Rubin) [email protected] (Al Clark) [email protected] (Adam Shostack) [email protected] (Adam Fox) [email protected] (Andreas Siegert) [email protected] (Anne Louise Gockel) [email protected] (Joe Keane) [email protected] (pc) [email protected] (Paul Buder) [email protected] [email protected] (Stephanie da Silva) [email protected] (Randall Atkinson) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Barrey Jewall) [email protected] (Bas de Bakker) [email protected] (Bas de Bakker) [email protected] (Vesselin Bontchev) [email protected] (John Boone) [email protected] (Jesse Buckley) [email protected] (Bryan Buus) [email protected] (Casper H.S. Dik) [email protected] (Charles Howes) [email protected] (Chris Johnson) [email protected] (Christopher L. Davis) [email protected] (David Clunie) [email protected] [email protected] (Cristy) [email protected] (Joel C. Justen) [email protected] (Cristiano Verondini) [email protected] (Darren Williams) [email protected] (Gregory W. Edwards) [email protected] (Gregory W. Edwards) elisabeth mead karl [email protected] (Ed McGuire) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Frank Kaefer) [email protected] (Fred Whiteside) [email protected] (Fred Whiteside) [email protected] (G. Roderick Singleton) [email protected] (Greg Brail) [email protected] (GUNTHER WALTHER) [email protected] (Hugo Andrade Cartaxeiro) [email protected] (Hans Huebner) [email protected] (Harold van Aalderen) [email protected] (Edward J. Huff) [email protected] [email protected] (Andreas Javernik) [email protected] (Joe Buck) [email protected] (Jon Cargille) [email protected] (Dave Bunte) [email protected] (Jeff Beadles) [email protected] (Jerry M. Carlin) [email protected] (Joe Smith) [email protected] (Steve Johnson) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Vincent V. Juodvalkis) [email protected] (Joseph R. Justice) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Lewis) [email protected] (Maria Dolores Recio) [email protected] ("H. Morrow Long") [email protected] (Frank Martin) [email protected] [email protected] matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] (Michael C. Berch) [email protected] (Alan M. McKenney) [email protected] (Martin Emmerich) [email protected] (Mike Sherwood) [email protected] (Mike Jones) [email protected] (Matthew Dustin Morgan) [email protected] (Michael Peppler) [email protected] (Michael Peppler) [email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff) [email protected] (Frank Nusselder) [email protected] [email protected] (Nelson Minar) [email protected] (Juergen Nickelsen) [email protected] (Bill Nickless) [email protected] (David Norton) [email protected] (Oliver Giessler) [email protected] (Pat Wilson) [email protected] (Per Hedeland) [email protected] (Charles Pfleeger) [email protected] (William LeFebvre) [email protected] (P.J. Boulay ) [email protected] (John Plate) [email protected] (Joel Plutchak) [email protected] (Roger B. Dubbs III) [email protected] (Richard D. Piasecki) [email protected] (Richard Commander) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (System Administrator) [email protected] (Operator) [email protected] (Richard Kulawiec) [email protected] [email protected] (Tig Stone) [email protected] (Sanjay Deo) [email protected] (Seth Breidbart) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Gough) [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Richard Mahn) [email protected] (Steve Kohlenberger) [email protected] (Steven Leikeim) [email protected] (Steven Leikeim) [email protected] (Robert K. Stodola) [email protected] (Terry Suitor) [email protected] (Theron Tock) [email protected] (Katy Thornton `92) [email protected] (Tim Frost) [email protected] (Tom Albrecht) [email protected] (Bob Snyder) [email protected] (Roger L. Long) [email protected] (Brian Weis) [email protected] (Peter Van Epp) [email protected] (Vasco Pedro) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Wietse Venema) [email protected] [email protected] (Warren R Carithers) -- Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA [email protected] [email protected] ...usc!elroy!dxh A great deal of thought is only a substitute for the thoughts which the individual would really find useful at the time. From [email protected] Fri May 15 18:00:26 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2352 news.groups:51022 alt.security:6744 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Dave Hayes Subject: RESULT: comp.security.misc passes 276: 23 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory / NASA Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 16:14:02 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 320 Here are the final results for comp.security.misc. [DAVE'S AUTOMATIC USENET CFV HANDLER] Total Votes: 299 Yes Votes: 276 (92.31%) No Votes: 23 (7.69%) Yes-No Votes: 253 Duplicates: 7 Duplicate Resolution: Last vote taken as valid YES VOTES: "(Magnus Kempe)" "Charles Geyer" "Cliff Hathaway" "Dave White" "David A. Wagner" "Eric A. Anderson" "Gregory R. Weiss" "Paul M. Mickel" "Stephen Potter" "Wilhelm Buehler" "tim" [email protected] [email protected] Adrian Bullock Alan Coopersmith Alan Thew Andreas Israel Andy Malis B.J. 15-Apr-1992 0941 Barry Margolin Boris Hemkemeier Brian Fitzgerald [email protected] Christopher Davis Claus Assmann Cliff Stoll [email protected] Dan Boehlke Danny Padwa Darren Bock Dave Goldberg Dave Sill David Fetrow David Stahl Doug Siebert EWILTS Edson Smith [email protected] ([email protected]) Helen Trillian Rose [email protected] (Herve Schauer) Ian Holland <@nmpd.oz.au:[email protected]> Irving_Wolfe James Harvey Jamie Gritton Jan Mattsson Jeff Makey Jerry Whelan Jim Duncan John G Dobnick Jon Haugsand Jon Iles Jyrki Kuoppala Karl Kleine Kian-Tat Lim Lars-Gunnar Olsson [email protected] (Martien Kuunders) [email protected] Marc Verbruggen x9419 Mark J. Steiglitz [email protected] Matthew Farwell Matthew Lyle Michael Gehrke Mirko Dziadzka @ Humboldt-University Berlin News Administrator Olin Sibert Oliver Schoett PTed Garvin Patricia O Tuama Paul Leyland Paul Quare Pekka Pessi Per Abrahamsen Per Ekman [email protected] Phill Everson Po Shan Cheah [email protected] (Ari Rabinowitz, WorkStations x6518) Rafi Sadowsky [email protected] (Randy Gregor) Reino de Boer Rick Kuhn Rickard Schoultz Robert J Carter Rodney Shojinaga Roger Hale Scott Northrop Serge Volkoff Steve Baur Steve Rumsby Steve Simmons Steve Watt -- KD6GGD [email protected] Tony Wilson Vern Cole -- Systems Manager W.Stahl Walt (W.R.) Sullivan Willi Burmeister [email protected] (Arthur Rubin) [email protected] (Al Clark) [email protected] (Adam Shostack) [email protected] (Adam Fox) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Andreas Siegert) [email protected] (Anne Louise Gockel) [email protected] (Joe Keane) [email protected] (pc) [email protected] (Paul Buder) [email protected] [email protected] (Andrew Schmid) [email protected] (Stephanie da Silva) [email protected] (Randall Atkinson) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Jan Isley) [email protected] (Barrey Jewall) [email protected] (Bas de Bakker) [email protected] (Chandra Shekara Bharathi) [email protected] (Hari Seldon) [email protected] (Bert Medley) [email protected] (Ruth White) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Vesselin Bontchev) [email protected] (John Boone) [email protected] (James M. Stephens) [email protected] (Jesse Buckley) [email protected] (Bryan Buus) [email protected] (Casper H.S. Dik) [email protected] [email protected] (Charles Howes) [email protected] [email protected] (Christopher L. Davis) [email protected] (David Clunie) [email protected] [email protected] (Cristy) [email protected] (Joel C. Justen) [email protected] [email protected] (Cristiano Verondini) dave (Dave Hayes) [email protected] (David Law) [email protected] (Darren Williams) [email protected] (Bob Heddles) [email protected] (Edward Bertsch) [email protected] (Robert I. Eachus) [email protected] (Bruce Ediger) [email protected] (Gregory W. Edwards) [email protected] (Edward Feustel) elisabeth mead karl [email protected] (Ed McGuire) [email protected] (Jeremy Epstein) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Frank Kaefer) [email protected] (Fred Whiteside) [email protected] (Gary Heston) [email protected] (Geoff Allen) [email protected] (G. Roderick Singleton) [email protected] (Greg Brail) [email protected] (GUNTHER WALTHER) [email protected] (Hugo Andrade Cartaxeiro) [email protected] (Hans Huebner) [email protected] (Harold van Aalderen) [email protected] [email protected] (Edward J. Huff) [email protected] [email protected] (Andreas Javernik) [email protected] (Joe Buck) [email protected] (Jon Cargille) [email protected] (Dave Bunte) [email protected] (Jeff Beadles) [email protected] (Jacob Gore) [email protected] (Jim Richardson) [email protected] (Jerry M. Carlin) [email protected] (Joe Smith) [email protected] (Steve Johnson) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Vincent V. Juodvalkis) [email protected] (Joseph R. Justice) [email protected] (James Wallace Watson) [email protected] [email protected] (Kjell Hogstrom) koral%[email protected] (Ilgun) [email protected] [email protected] (Lewis) [email protected] (Maria Dolores Recio) [email protected] ("H. Morrow Long") [email protected] (Frank Martin) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Mark Anacker) [email protected] (Mark Baranowski) matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) [email protected] (Michael C. Berch) [email protected] (Alan M. McKenney) [email protected] (Martin Emmerich) [email protected] (Michael of Nebadon) [email protected] (Mike Sherwood) [email protected] (Matthew Dustin Morgan) [email protected] [email protected] (Michael Peppler) [email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff) [email protected] (Frank Nusselder) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Nelson Minar) [email protected] (Juergen Nickelsen) [email protected] (Bill Nickless) [email protected] (David Norton) [email protected] (Paul Ortega) [email protected] (Oliver Giessler) [email protected] (Pat Wilson) [email protected] (Per Hedeland) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David Peterson) [email protected] (Charles Pfleeger) [email protected] (William LeFebvre) [email protected] (Pierre Uszynski) [email protected] (P.J. Boulay ) [email protected] (John Plate) [email protected] (GLen Pringle) [email protected] [email protected] (Gene Rackow) [email protected] (Roger B. Dubbs III) [email protected] (Richard D. Piasecki) [email protected] (Richard Commander) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Prentiss Riddle) [email protected] (Ross Leask) [email protected] (Daniel S. Riley) [email protected] (Rob J. Nauta) [email protected] (System Administrator) [email protected] (Operator) [email protected] (R. P. White) [email protected] (Richard Kulawiec) rslau%[email protected] (Robert Lau) [email protected] [email protected] (Tig Stone) [email protected] (Sam Sangster) [email protected] (Sanjay Deo) [email protected] (Seth Breidbart) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Gough) [email protected] (Phil Smith) [email protected] (Rick Smith) [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Staffan Persson) [email protected] (Richard Mahn) [email protected] (Steve Kohlenberger) [email protected] (Steven Leikeim) [email protected] (Terry Suitor) [email protected] (Theron Tock) [email protected] (Katy Thornton `92) [email protected] (Tim Frost) [email protected] (Tom Albrecht) [email protected] (Tony Movshon) [email protected] (Bob Snyder) [email protected] (Tuy bernard) [email protected] (Tim MacKenzie) [email protected] (Brian Weis) [email protected] (John G. Thompson) [email protected] (Robert E. Van Cleef) [email protected] (Peter Van Epp) [email protected] (Martial Van Neste) [email protected] (Vasco Pedro) [email protected] [email protected] (Sean Gallaty) [email protected] [email protected] (Wietse Venema) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Woife Bachhuber - Sun Germany IR Security + SysAdm - Munich) [email protected] (Warren R Carithers) NO VOTES: "James R. Macak" Benjamin Fan Bill Lipa Clint Ruoho David Newton Erik Johansen Joel B Levin Marc Moorcroft [email protected] Roy S. Rapoport [email protected] (StarWatcher) Steffen Reithermann Tall Cool One Tybalt the Paste Man Werner Uhrig [email protected] [email protected] (Chris Johnson) [email protected] (Oliver Fink) [email protected] (mehta) [email protected] (Mike Jones) [email protected] (Joel Plutchak) [email protected] (Robert K. Stodola) [email protected] (Roger L. Long) -- Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA [email protected] [email protected] ...usc!elroy!dxh If you want to get rid of somebody, just tell them something for their own good.