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From [email protected] Mon May 23 19:01:53 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Sandeep Dave) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education Subject: RFD: misc.education.medical Followup-To: news.groups Date: 23 May 1994 17:32:05 -0400 Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Lines: 35 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5127 news.groups:104668 sci.med:87726 soc.college:28919 misc.education:19539  NEWSGROUP misc.education.medical - issues related to medical education  CHARTER  The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues  related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to  * Applying to medical school (premed concerns) * Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is   complete without this? :-) ) * Medical school curricula * Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships * Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education) * Current problems with medical education  RATIONALE  There are currently over 100,000 people (with internet/usenet access) actively pursuing medical education. Yet, there is no newsgroup that directly addresses the concerns mentioned above. The wide distribution of the misc.... hierarchy will provide an effective forum for discussion of the issues mentioned above, while providing the means for an effective, informal and timely sharing of information, ideas and experiences.  DISCUSSION  should be directed to news.groups.   QUESTIONS  should be directed to me!  Sandeep Dave, Northwestern University [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Jun 14 19:30:49 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education Subject: CFV: misc.education.medical Followup-To: poster Date: 14 Jun 1994 18:35:53 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Lines: 72 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jul 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay's vote-taking alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5218 news.groups:106305 sci.med:89916 soc.college:29326 misc.education:20052  		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) 	       unmoderated group misc.education.medical  Newsgroups line: misc.education.medical	Issues related to medical education.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 5 July 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Sandeep Dave <[email protected]>.  The vote-taker will post each CFV to the mailing list at MEDSTU-L%[email protected] shortly after it is posted to news.announce.newsgroups. He will send an abridged RESULT posting (without the full list of voters) to the mailing list after voting ends; the full RESULTs will be posted to all the newsgroups where the CFV was posted.  CHARTER    The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues    related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to    * Applying to medical school (premed concerns)   * Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is     complete without this? :-))   * Medical school curricula   * Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships   * Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)   * Current problems with medical education  RATIONALE    There are currently over 100,000 people (with internet/usenet access)   actively pursuing medical education. The wide distribution of the misc....    hierarchy will provide an effective forum for discussion of the issues    mentioned above, while providing the means for an effective, informal and    timely sharing of information, ideas and experiences.  HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to: [email protected]   Just "Replying" to this post should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list, and if your newsreader honors the "reply-to" line. Double-check the address before sending your ballot.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:        I vote YES on misc.education.medical       I vote NO on misc.education.medical  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received >from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives (including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available if there is a controversy concerning the vote.  From [email protected] Sat Jun 25 23:18:10 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.education.medical Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 25 Jun 1994 23:05:43 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Lines: 95 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jul 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay's vote-taking alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5272 news.groups:107184 sci.med:91046 soc.college:29442 misc.education:20321                       LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                unmoderated group misc.education.medical  Newsgroups line: misc.education.medical  Issues related to medical education.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 5 July 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Sandeep Dave <[email protected]>.  The vote-taker will post each CFV to the mailing list at MEDSTU-L%[email protected] shortly after it is posted to news.announce.newsgroups. He will send an abridged RESULT posting (without the full list of voters) to the mailing list after voting ends; the full RESULTs will be posted to all the newsgroups where the CFV was posted.  CHARTER    The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues    related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to    * Applying to medical school (premed concerns)   * Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is     complete without this? :-))   * Medical school curricula   * Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships   * Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)   * Current problems with medical education  RATIONALE    There are currently over 100,000 people (with internet/usenet access)   actively pursuing medical education. The wide distribution of the misc....    hierarchy will provide an effective forum for discussion of the issues    mentioned above, while providing the means for an effective, informal and    timely sharing of information, ideas and experiences.  HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to: [email protected]   Just "Replying" to this post should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list, and if your newsreader honors the "reply-to" line. Double-check the address before sending your ballot.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:        I vote YES on misc.education.medical       I vote NO on misc.education.medical  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received >from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives (including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available if there is a controversy concerning the vote.   BOUNCES =======  The following people's EMail acknowledgements bounced when I sent them. They need not revote; their votes have been counted.  misc.education.medical Bounce List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                             M. W. Coon   INVALID VOTES =============  The following people submitted invalid ballots, and have not superseded them with valid ones.  Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                               Ankur Doshi    ! No vote statement in message  From [email protected] Tue Jul 12 15:11:01 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education Subject: RESULT: misc.education.medical passes 178:11 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 11 Jul 1994 23:50:40 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Lines: 247 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5334 news.groups:108170 sci.med:92553 soc.college:29658 misc.education:20708                                 RESULT             unmoderated group misc.education.medical passes 178:11  There were 178 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 189 valid votes.  There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.   There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.  Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 5 July 1994.   This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Vote-taker's address:		[email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Group proponent's address:	[email protected] (Sandeep Dave)  Newsgroups line: misc.education.medical  Issues related to medical education.  CHARTER (culled from the Call for Votes):    The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues    related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to    * Applying to medical school (premed concerns)   * Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is     complete without this? :-))   * Medical school curricula   * Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships   * Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)   * Current problems with medical education  misc.education.medical Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                      QUAN NGUYEN, X65228 [email protected]                                      Marlies Vincken [email protected]                                         Amir B. [email protected]                                                           [email protected]                                               Amit Joshi [email protected]                                          Andrea Lobo [email protected]                                         Andrew [email protected]                                               Ankur Doshi [email protected]                                                             [email protected]                                                   Asad Mohamed [email protected]                                             Anal Shah [email protected]                                                    Jim Ault [email protected]                                Prof Antoine van Gelder [email protected]                                           Aviel Roy-Shapira [email protected]                                               Andy [email protected]                                              Barclay A. Dunn [email protected]                                              Bapu P. Arekapudi [email protected]                                              Vida Tigrani [email protected]                                              Matthew Martin [email protected]                                                  Ben Crane [email protected]                          Benjamin Littenberg [email protected]                        Bijan Mohammad Salehizadeh [email protected]                                                 Neal Sarin [email protected]                                       Bob Kirkpatrick [email protected]                             Brian Manning Delaney [email protected]                                 Douglas P. Shannon [email protected]                                   Cassius B. 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Vivek [email protected]                                        Christine Carino [email protected]                                             Cathy Brower [email protected]                                                                 [email protected]                     Chris Franka-RXYK40 [email protected]                                             Christopher Smith [email protected]                                         clendenin,colleen [email protected]                                             David Davies [email protected]                                                   Peter Campbell [email protected]                                         Yogesh Dandekar [email protected]                                            Douglas Allen Bourne [email protected]                                                 David Conner [email protected]                                          Dominique Latour [email protected]                                     Kregg T Brooks [email protected]                                                      Dan F. 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HANSEN [email protected]                                       Polina Mikha Kharik [email protected]                                               Sleepy [email protected]                                            Chappy [email protected]                             James Alexander Chokey [email protected]                                           Dag [email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt [email protected]                                        Jeffrey Hall Jennings [email protected]                                           Amelia J. Scott-Piner [email protected]                                                   Jed Kenna [email protected]                                                  John Martin [email protected]                                        john shakula [email protected]                                           John Werner [email protected]                                                      Jon W. 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Osborn [email protected]                                         Linda Smith [email protected]                                                [email protected]                             Mandar Pattekar [email protected]                                               Manoj Bhatia [email protected]                                               Mark Goldsworthy [email protected]                                                Mark A Lilly [email protected]                                              Marv Weisberg [email protected]                               Mary-Ann Untalan Wasim [email protected]                                                            [email protected]                                           Myra T. Cruz [email protected]                                          Dr. M.C. Diffin [email protected]                                                 Mike Fessler [email protected]                                          Murty N Guddati [email protected]                                 Paul Hakendorf [email protected]                                    Brannon W. Boren [email protected]                                  Stephen Cristol [email protected]                                  David Muir Sharnoff [email protected]                                    Chris Schmelzer [email protected]                                                                   [email protected]                                                     Nigel Allen [email protected]                                       Nisheeth Parekh [email protected]                                         Harit Pandya [email protected]                                                [email protected]                                                     Paul Robinson [email protected]                                           Thomas L. Pearce [email protected]                                 Klaus Peters [email protected]                                        L. Poer [email protected]                                      Prasanna W. 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Quinn [email protected]                                    Ramji Raghavan [email protected]                                        Sudhir Madhava Rao [email protected]                                        Rajan Bhardwaj [email protected]                                                       [email protected]                                            Jim Revkin [email protected]                                               Jinara Reyes [email protected]                                                  [email protected]                                           Limpet Man [email protected]                                            Rajesh Munshi [email protected]                                                 [email protected]                                             Lee Rudolph [email protected]                                                           [email protected]                                            Sagar Karmarkar [email protected]                                             Shaji [email protected]                     Sanjeev Poornachandra Shukla [email protected]                                        Sheela Sastry [email protected]                                    Bruce R Sckolnick [email protected]                                Scott McElfresh [email protected]                                                maggie douglass [email protected]                                         Sandeep Dave [email protected]                                         Paulo F. Sedrez [email protected]                                 Stefan G. Berg [email protected]                                   R.Shane Barton-EE6 [email protected]                         Shelly Buchanan [email protected]                                                Siamak Ansari [email protected]                                       Rajindra Sirsikar [email protected]                                      Thomas E. Smith [email protected]                                        Sridhar Dagupati [email protected]                                        Srinivasan Kumar [email protected]                               Sudheer Poornachandra Shukla [email protected]                                         Rich Sutton [email protected]                                                            [email protected]                                 Stacy Weisberg T=Chan%TechAff%[email protected]                                         [email protected]                                     Teng-Chun Lee [email protected]                                   Dr. Tim Reynolds [email protected]                           Tomasz Wit Hruczkowski [email protected]                                                            [email protected]                                        S.A. Ritz [email protected]                                            Umesh Kasture [email protected]                         Iain Donald Craik Kirkpatrick [email protected]                                         Sridhar Vajapeyam [email protected]                                                [email protected]                                             Guy VanDell [email protected]                                                   Chris Vaughn [email protected]                                                     [email protected]                                            Vanja Vuletic [email protected]                                           Vinod M. Arekar [email protected]                                            Floyd West [email protected]                                         Sridhar Srinivasan [email protected]                                                      Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                         Stefan Antersberger [email protected]                                             Andreas Polzer [email protected]                                           Ed Bailey [email protected]                                               [email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan [email protected]                                   mary-frances  jagod [email protected]                                            Peter Berger [email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller [email protected]                                         Smarasderagd [email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown [email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush  Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                                       Arvind    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                                          ! Conflicting votes [email protected]                                             Joilo Barbosa    ! No vote statement in message  
 
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