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From [email protected] Sun Jan  8 19:04:11 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Bob Curtis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.computer.consultants,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: RFD: misc.business.consulting moderated
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*** PROPOSAL ***

Group Name:         misc.business.consulting
Status:             Moderated
Distribution:       world
Summary:            Discussion of issues specifically relating to
                    the business of consulting.
Moderator:          Bob Curtis <[email protected]>
Advisory Committee: (available collectively as [email protected])
                    Bob Treumann <[email protected]>
                    Rich Weland <[email protected]>
                    Randy Coulman <[email protected]>
                    Dave Crowson <[email protected]>
                    John Hopkins <[email protected]>
                    L. Hillman <[email protected]>
                    Bill Codding <[email protected]>
Proposed by:        Bob Curtis <[email protected]>

--------
Purpose

This group is meant to provide an organized forum for the discussion and
dissemination of information specifically relating to the business of
consulting, and proposed for the reasons stated below. 

1) Subscribers of alt.computer.consultants have become concerned with the
recent flood of off-topic postings. Many network "newbies"  have posted in
the group, asking for advise on how to "fix"  their broken computers.
Frequent off-topic posts have also included solicitations for employment,
and job offers. (which are more appropriate to the alt.jobs hierarchies). 
This new moderated group is intended to open the discussions to 
consultants of all fields, and discourage off-topic posts (a problem which
will continue to plague alt.computer.consultants)

2) The misc hierarchy is carried by more feeds than is the alt hierarchy.
By moving to this hierarchy, we hope to increase the number and scope of
appropriate posts which our newsgroup receives. 

3) As group traffic increases, other subgroups may be considered,
including (but not limited to) sub-groups for other classifications of
consulting such as: 

  misc.business.consulting.marketplace (job seekers and brokers)
  misc.business.consulting.computers (field specific)
  misc.business.consulting.management (field specific)
  etc....

--------
Charter 

As stated earlier, this group will specifically be a forum for those
discussions concerning the business of consulting. More specifically, this
refers to matters such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting
treatments, techniques for client management, discussions of ethics,
advice for beginning consultants, contract provisions, etc. This should
not be taken to totally exclude technical issues from being raised, when
they are framed in the context of the business of consulting. 

This newsgroup would discourage the posting of questions about solving
computer specific hardware or software problems, as there are many more
appropriate groups in which to post such questions. 

--------
The Function of the Moderator and Advisory Committee

This newsgroup shall have an active moderator, with an advisory committee
(co-moderators).  It shall be the responsibility of the active moderator
to screen postings to the newsgroup, and eliminate those which are: 

1) Articles that have no connection to business of consulting 
   (i.e. "How do I fix my Computer")
2) Any message of a direct and commercial nature. This includes 
   postings offering both commercial products, and services.

The active moderator shall not screen postings for their intellectual
content or argument, nor for their political or ideological content
(within the scope of consulting issues). 

All articles that are rejected will be sent back to the contributor with a
short message explaining the reason for rejection.  Such rejections may be
appealed as outlined below. 

The advisory committee serve in a back-up capacity, so as to insure
continuity during either a temporary or permanent change in the status of
the active moderator.  In addition, this committee will have the
responsibility (along with the active moderator) for voting on appeals of
rejected posts, the appointment of new advisors, and the possible removal
of a current advisor as outlined below. 

--------
Appeal of a Rejected Post

If a contributor whose post has been rejected wishes to appeal this
action, he may forward this appeal and the post in question to the advise
committee at [email protected] for a vote. If the majority of voting
advisors agrees to overrule the rejection, the article will be sent to the
newsgroup. If the post is again rejected, the person appealing the
rejection will be sent a summary of the opinions of the advisors. 

--------
Appointment of New Advisors

New advisors will be appointed as necessary through the nomination of an
individual by the other advisors. The appointment will require a unanimous
vote of all voting advisors to pass. 

--------
Removal of an Advisor / Re-assignment of Moderator

An advisor may be removed or the moderation may be re-assigned for the 
following reasons: 

1) failure to perform the outlined duties of the position
2) a pattern of biased or discriminatory manipulation of postings. 

Such removal will be made by the formal vote of all participating
advisors. A 2/3rds vote in favor of such action will be required for
removal. 

--------
FAQ

The group which designed alt.computer.consultant's original FAQ (ACCFAQ
list) will continue their responsibility for the development and posting 
of a frequently asked question (FAQ) file for the new group. 

--------
This RFD is being posted to the following Newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
alt.computer.consultants
misc.entrepreneurs

All Follow-ups should be directed to: news.groups

--------

Author's note

This is the first Request For Discussion for this newsgroup.  A request
for discussion takes no less than 21 days from the time it is first posted
to news.announce.newgroups. We will issue at least one updated RFD before
that period expires, and possibly more if the proposal changes
dramatically. If this RFD has not prompted critical debate, we hope to
issue a Call For Votes at the end of the required 21-28 day period. 

Please note that all discussions should be held in, or cross-posted to
news.groups. 

-- 
Bob Curtis <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Fri Feb 24 18:28:56 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Bob Curtis <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.computer.consultants,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.business.consulting
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There has been a great deal of discussion in the first RFD over the
necessity of moderation for the new group misc.business.consulting. The
following proposal is for the same group, but with an unmoderated status.

                           *** PROPOSAL ***

Group Name:         misc.business.consulting
Status:             Un-moderated
Distribution:       world
Summary:            Discussion of issues specifically relating to
                    the business of consulting.
Proposed by:        Bob Curtis <[email protected]>

--------
Purpose

This group is meant to provide an organized forum for the discussion and
dissemination of information specifically relating to the business of
consulting, and proposed for the reasons stated below.

1) This new group is intended to open the discussions to consultants
of all fields, and discourage off-topic posts (a problem which will
continue to plague alt.computer.consultants)

2) The misc hierarchy is carried by more feeds than is the alt hierarchy.
By moving to this hierarchy, we hope to increase the number and scope of
appropriate posts which our newsgroup receives.

3) As group traffic increases, other subgroups may be considered,
including (but not limited to) sub-groups for other classifications of
consulting such as:

  misc.business.consulting.marketplace (job seekers and brokers)
  misc.business.consulting.computers (field specific)
  misc.business.consulting.management (field specific)
  etc....

--------
Charter

As stated earlier, this group will specifically be a forum for those
discussions concerning the business of consulting. More specifically, this
refers to matters such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting
treatments, techniques for client management, discussions of ethics,
advice for beginning consultants, contract provisions, etc. This should
not be taken to totally exclude technical issues from being raised, when
they are framed in the context of the business of consulting.

This newsgroup would discourage the posting of questions about solving
computer specific hardware or software problems, as there are many more
appropriate groups in which to post such questions.

--------
FAQ

The group which designed alt.computer.consultant's original FAQ (ACCFAQ
list) will continue their responsibility for the development and posting
of a frequently asked question (FAQ) file for the new group.

--------
This RFD is being posted to the following Newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
alt.computer.consultants
misc.entrepreneurs

All Follow-ups should be directed to: news.groups

--------

Author's note

This is the second Request For Discussion for this newsgroup. The first
proposal was for the same group (moderated). Any Request For Discussion
takes no less than 21 days from the time it is first posted. We may issue
at least one updated RFD before that period expires, and possibly more if
the proposal changes dramatically. If this RFD has not prompted critical
debate, we hope to issue a Call For Votes at the end of the required 21-28
day period.

Please note that all discussions should be held in, or cross-posted to
news.groups.

-- 
Bob Curtis <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Sat Mar 25 15:07:53 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Bob Curtis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.computer.consultants,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.entrepreneurs.moderated,misc.business.facilitators
Subject: 3rd RFD: misc.business.consulting (moderated)
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                      3rd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

This 3rd RFD is being posted at the request of the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups as a prerequisite to a moderated forum. It is
similar in most details to the first RFD, posted 1/7/95. Our 2nd RFD -
for an unmoderated group (and it's accompanying Straw poll) showed
that this group will have much broader support as a moderated
forum. This proposal will be the final one for this new group, and a
CFV will be issued in about a week for this group in it's _moderated_
form. Thank you all for your patience and participation in the
discussions on those prior proposals.

Group Name:         misc.business.consulting
Status:             Moderated
Distribution:       world
Summary:            Discussion of issues specifically relating to
                    the business of consulting.
Moderator:          Bob Curtis <[email protected]>
Advisory Committee: available collectively as [email protected]
Proposed by:        Bob Curtis <[email protected]>

--------
Purpose

This group is meant to provide an organized forum for the discussion and
dissemination of information specifically relating to the business of
consulting, and proposed for the reasons stated below.

1) Subscribers of alt.computer.consultants have become concerned with the
recent flood of off-topic postings. Many network "newbies"  have posted in
the group, asking for advise on how to "fix"  their broken computers.
Frequent off-topic posts have also included solicitations for employment,
and job offers. (which are more appropriate to the alt.jobs hierarchies).
This new moderated group is intended to open the discussions to
consultants of all fields, and discourage off-topic posts (a problem which
will continue to plague alt.computer.consultants)

2) The misc hierarchy is carried by more feeds than is the alt hierarchy.
By moving to this hierarchy, we hope to increase the number and scope of
appropriate posts which our newsgroup receives.

3) As group traffic increases, other subgroups may be considered,
including (but not limited to) sub-groups for other classifications of
consulting such as:

  misc.business.consulting.marketplace (job seekers and brokers)
  misc.business.consulting.computers (field specific)
  misc.business.consulting.management (field specific)
  etc....

--------
Charter

Misc.business.consulting will be a moderated forum for discussions
concerning the business issues of consulting. More specifically, this
refers to matters such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting
treatments, techniques for client management, discussions of ethics,
advice for beginning consultants, contract provisions, etc. This should
not be taken to totally exclude technical issues from being raised, when
they are framed in the context of the business of consulting.

This newsgroup will discourage the posting of questions about solving
computer-specific hardware or software problems, as there are many more
appropriate groups in which to post such questions. Posts concerning
solicitations for employment or job offers (which are more appropriate to
the *.jobs hierarchies) will also be discouraged.

--------
The Function of the Moderator and Advisory Committee

This newsgroup shall have an active moderator, with an advisory committee
(co-moderators).  It shall be the responsibility of the active moderator
to screen postings to the newsgroup, and eliminate those which are:

1) Articles that have no connection to business of consulting
   (i.e. "How do I fix my Computer")
2) Any message of a direct and commercial nature. This includes
   postings offering both commercial products, and services.

The active moderator shall not screen postings for their intellectual
content or argument, nor for their political or ideological content
(within the scope of consulting issues).

All articles that are rejected will be sent back to the contributor with a
short message explaining the reason for rejection.  Such rejections may be
appealed as outlined below.

The advisory committee serve in a back-up capacity, so as to insure
continuity during either a temporary or permanent change in the status of
the active moderator. In addition, this committee will have the
responsibility (along with the active moderator) for voting on appeals of
rejected posts, the appointment of new advisors, and the possible removal
of a current advisor as outlined below.

--------
Appeal of a Rejected Post

If a contributor whose post has been rejected wishes to appeal this
action, he may forward this appeal and the post in question to the advise
committee at [email protected] for a vote. If the majority of voting
advisors agree to overrule the rejection, the article will then be sent
to the newsgroup.

--------
Appointment of New Advisors

New advisors will be appointed as necessary through the nomination of an
individual by the other advisors. The appointment will require a unanimous
vote of all voting advisors to pass.

--------
Removal of an Advisor / Re-assignment of Moderator

An advisor may be removed or the moderation may be re-assigned for the
following reasons:

1) failure to perform the outlined duties of the position
2) a pattern of biased or discriminatory manipulation of postings.

Such removal will be made by the formal vote of all participating
advisors. A 2/3rds vote in favor of such action will be required for
removal.

--------
FAQ

The group which designed alt.computer.consultant's original FAQ (ACCFAQ
list) will continue their responsibility for the development and posting
of a frequently asked question (FAQ) file for the new group.

--------
This RFD is being posted to the following Newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
alt.computer.consultants
misc.entrepreneurs
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
misc.business.facilitators

All Follow-ups should be directed to: news.groups

--------

Please note that all discussions should be held in, or cross-posted to
news.groups.

--
Bob Curtis <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Tue Apr  4 19:08:26 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.computer.consultants,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.entrepreneurs.moderated,misc.business.facilitators
Subject: CFV: misc.business.consulting moderated
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                   moderated group misc.business.consulting

Newsgroups line:
misc.business.consulting	The business of consulting. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 25 April 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Bob Curtis <[email protected]>.

This CFV will be cross posted to:
        alt.computer.consultants
        misc.entrepreneurs
        misc.entrepreneurs.moderated (moderated)
        misc.business.facilitators
and EMailed to:
        BIZ-WIRE
            Contact: [email protected]
        bpr-l
            Contact: [email protected]
            List contact: [email protected] (Alexander Verbraeck)


CHARTER

Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to
matters such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments,
techniques for client management, discussions of ethics, advice for
beginning consultants, contract provisions, etc. This should not be
taken to totally exclude technical issues from being raised, when they
are framed in the context of the business of consulting.

This newsgroup will discourage the posting of questions about solving
computer-specific hardware or software problems, as there are many
more appropriate groups in which to post such questions. Posts
concerning solicitations for employment or job offers (which are more
appropriate to the *.jobs hierarchies) will also be discouraged.

Moderator:           Bob Curtis <[email protected]>
Submissions address: <[email protected]>
Contact address:     <[email protected]>

MOTIVATION

The only existing consultant's group (alt.computer.consultants) has
been plagued since it's conception with off-topic posts - by newbies
asking for help "fixing" their computers, and adverts which would be
more appropriate in the *.jobs hierarchies. This new moderated group
is intended to provide an alternative to acc, where consultants from
_all_ fields can discuss the business issues pertinent to consulting
without sorting through the "noise" of off-topic posts. We have
discussed the issue of moderation in two separate RFD's, and followed
with a Straw poll. During these discussions, the readers of affected
groups have expressed a much broader support for a moderated group
than unmoderated. We hope to enjoy a wider propagation with this new
group, thereby increasing both the number and scope of appropriate
posts.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.business.consulting
      I vote NO on misc.business.consulting
      I vote ABSTAIN on misc.business.consulting
      I CANCEL my vote on misc.business.consulting

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Fri Apr 14 17:47:01 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.computer.consultants,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.entrepreneurs.moderated,misc.business.facilitators
Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.business.consulting
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                   moderated group misc.business.consulting

Newsgroups line:
misc.business.consulting        The business of consulting (Moderated).

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 25 April 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Bob Curtis <[email protected]>.

This CFV will be cross posted to:
        alt.computer.consultants
        misc.entrepreneurs
        misc.entrepreneurs.moderated (moderated)
        misc.business.facilitators
and EMailed to:
        BIZ-WIRE
            Contact: [email protected]
        bpr-l
            Contact: [email protected]
            List contact: [email protected] (Alexander Verbraeck)


CHARTER

Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to
matters such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments,
techniques for client management, discussions of ethics, advice for
beginning consultants, contract provisions, etc. This should not be
taken to totally exclude technical issues from being raised, when they
are framed in the context of the business of consulting.

This newsgroup will discourage the posting of questions about solving
computer-specific hardware or software problems, as there are many
more appropriate groups in which to post such questions. Posts
concerning solicitations for employment or job offers (which are more
appropriate to the *.jobs hierarchies) will also be discouraged.

Moderator:           Bob Curtis <[email protected]>
Submissions address: <[email protected]>
Contact address:     <[email protected]>

MOTIVATION

The only existing consultant's group (alt.computer.consultants) has
been plagued since it's conception with off-topic posts - by newbies
asking for help "fixing" their computers, and adverts which would be
more appropriate in the *.jobs hierarchies. This new moderated group
is intended to provide an alternative to acc, where consultants from
_all_ fields can discuss the business issues pertinent to consulting
without sorting through the "noise" of off-topic posts. We have
discussed the issue of moderation in two separate RFD's, and followed
with a Straw poll. During these discussions, the readers of affected
groups have expressed a much broader support for a moderated group
than unmoderated. We hope to enjoy a wider propagation with this new
group, thereby increasing both the number and scope of appropriate
posts.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.business.consulting
      I vote NO on misc.business.consulting
      I vote ABSTAIN on misc.business.consulting
      I CANCEL my vote on misc.business.consulting

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Wed Apr 26 19:39:50 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.computer.consultants,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.entrepreneurs.moderated,misc.business.facilitators
Subject: RESULT: misc.business.consulting passes 274:25
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                                RESULT
        moderated group misc.business.consulting passes 274:25

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 274   25 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : misc.business.consulting
   3 abstaining votes and 4 invalid votes

  misc.business.consulting passed on Sat Apr 8 13:02:37 1995

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO
votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the passed group(s)
shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups Line
misc.business.consulting	The business of consulting. (Moderated)

IRREGULARITY

One forged vote was received.  It cancelled someone else's vote.  I
contacted the System Administrator of the system the vote was received
>from (In Hawaii), and asked him to check is logs.  He told me the forgery
was received from a site in Lawrenceville, NJ.

I tried to contact the system administrator of that system, and they did
not respond.

I carefully examined all the votes that were vote changes (5 or so),
and any votes that came from the site in NJ (1 vote).  I sent mail to the
voter from that site, confirming their vote.

The 1 forged vote was VOID'ed, and the orignal vote was restored.
No biggie, just an hour or two of work on my part.

CHARTER

Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to
matters such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments,
techniques for client management, discussions of ethics, advice for
beginning consultants, contract provisions, etc. This should not be
taken to totally exclude technical issues from being raised, when they
are framed in the context of the business of consulting.

This newsgroup will discourage the posting of questions about solving
computer-specific hardware or software problems, as there are many
more appropriate groups in which to post such questions. Posts
concerning solicitations for employment or job offers (which are more
appropriate to the *.jobs hierarchies) will also be discouraged.

Moderator:           Bob Curtis <[email protected]>
Submissions address: <[email protected]>
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misc.business.consulting Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                     Alberto Torchio
[email protected]                                           Simon Asato
[email protected]                                         CAT Barcheck
[email protected]                                            Sue Marek
[email protected]                                           William G. Buoni Jr.
[email protected]                                Joerg Schuetze
[email protected]                      Advanced business consulting
[email protected]                                            Kevin Cunningham
[email protected]                                                    Paul Lear
[email protected]                                            ALAN D. DAYLEY
[email protected]
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[email protected]                                             Al Naseef
[email protected]                                             Andy Daiber
[email protected]                                       Steve Davidson
[email protected]                                       Amit P. Rege
[email protected]                                          Andrew Radford
[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                                  Jonathan Crawford @ ArkTech
[email protected]                                                  Allen S. Rout
[email protected]
[email protected]                                              Asif Taiyabi
[email protected]                                     April Mardock Johnson
[email protected]                                                    Rich Aubin
[email protected]                                         Stanko Barle
[email protected]                                                        Bill Codding
[email protected]                                                         Bob Curtis
[email protected]                                              Bruce Wyman
[email protected]                                                       Bernd Kuemmel
[email protected]                                                 Ron Benrey
[email protected]                                                     Bob Evans
[email protected]                                               BRUCE LANG
[email protected]                                                Bill Satterlee
[email protected]                                       Bjornulf Hafstad
[email protected]                                              Barbara E. Liedl
[email protected]                                              Alan Greenblatt
[email protected]                                             Brad Murray
[email protected]                                             Ben Parker
[email protected]                                 Pat & Richard Bryant
[email protected]                                              Bob Treumann
[email protected]                                       Kevin R. Burgess
[email protected]                                                         Bengt Wendel
[email protected]                                     Phetsy_Calderon
[email protected]                                          Calvin A. Curtindolph
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     Christopher Bell
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Chris Wilcox
[email protected]                                         Charles Knutson
[email protected]                                        Claire Murray
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]
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[email protected]                                             Myke Wilder
[email protected]                                    Codding Yolanda
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                David Dailey
[email protected]                                                  Jeff Conklin
[email protected]                                              Lewis Copulsky
[email protected]                                              Randy Coulman
[email protected]                                            Chris Pillsbury
[email protected]                                       Craig A. Heilman
[email protected]                                                   Randall Craig
[email protected]                                Matthew Crosby
[email protected]                               Christopher R. Payne
[email protected]                            Stout Consulting Service
[email protected]                                       David A. Dubois
[email protected]
[email protected]                                  David William Wilson
[email protected]                                            David Smith
[email protected]                                                Doug Blair
[email protected]                                                Don Brookes
[email protected]                                                Dave Crowson
[email protected]                                            Joe Hertzberg
[email protected]                                                   Dan Hartung
[email protected]                                                        Northrop
[email protected]                                              Dave Loughlin
[email protected]                                                Donald McRoberts
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Richard Duval
[email protected]                                     Eddie Sheffield, Jr.
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Eric J. Holtman
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                         Mary Margaret Palmer
[email protected]                                             Fred Griffin
[email protected]                                            Kevin Flanagan
[email protected]                                           GREG FRANKLIN
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                    Gayle B Henry
[email protected]                                                       Geo. Poster
[email protected]                                          George H. Bosworth
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Gerhard Wagner
[email protected]                                        Chris Goedde
[email protected]                                               Gregory P. Widin
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                    Kiran Wagle
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                  Jerry Wotel
[email protected]                                           Richard Snow
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Walt Hodges
[email protected]                                     Howard, Robert
[email protected]                                              Sean Seago
[email protected]                                             Ian Dixon
[email protected]                                            Ian Wrigley
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Ian Thomas
[email protected]                                          Jamison Gray
[email protected]                                        B. Jane Garthson
[email protected]                                                 Jane E. Beno
[email protected]                                          Jerry Cederquist
[email protected]                                     J.D. Almand
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                    John D. Hudson
[email protected]                                         Jeff McDonald
[email protected]                                               Jean Adams
[email protected]                                     Jeff Salisbury
[email protected]                                               John Livermore
[email protected]                                              Dave Jenkins
[email protected]                                          Richard Jensen
[email protected]                                                     jf mcnamara
[email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt
[email protected]                                                Jeff Freeman
[email protected]                                                 John Gilks
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[email protected]                                                Jim Doherty
[email protected]                                      Jim Kraemer
[email protected]                                                   Jon Lake
[email protected]                                           John Rodley
[email protected]                                          John Washington
[email protected]                                           John Worthington
[email protected]                                                           Jonboy
[email protected]                                               Johanna Rothman
[email protected]
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[email protected]                                                  David Keeney
[email protected]                                                  Ken Collins
[email protected]                               Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957
[email protected]                                                  William Kline
[email protected]                                               Krishna Garimella
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Kenneth W. Kozak
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     Carl Lambert
[email protected]                                        Lantz Rowland
[email protected]                                                      Lee Beer
[email protected]                                           L. HILLMAN
[email protected]                                              Lorne A. Cooke
[email protected]                                              Leslie Wood
[email protected]                                            Linda J. Bruton
[email protected]                                                       JON LOBE
[email protected]                                                     Loius G.
[email protected]                                             Luis A. Rodriguez
[email protected]                                     William N McCrosky
[email protected]                                    Mark Joseph Madrilejo
[email protected]                                               Gregory Cohen
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                        MarkH
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[email protected]                                           Perry Martin
[email protected]                                          Steen Martiny
[email protected]                                 Hilltop Computer Resources, Inc.
[email protected]                                               David Marwood
[email protected]                                             Mel Astillero
[email protected]                                Mark J Balbes
[email protected]                                                      Mike Bell
[email protected]                                               Michael Chase
[email protected]                                          Mark D. Foster
[email protected]                                L. Merrill Palmer
[email protected]                                         Mary Ross
[email protected]                                            Mike Marsh
[email protected]                                    Mitch Collinsworth
[email protected]                                                 Mark Roberts
mmedia!mcfarlin                                                David McFarling
[email protected]                                        Mark Nielsen
[email protected]                                 David Maurice
[email protected]                                              Martin Picha
[email protected]                                   Marjorie R. Stamper
[email protected]                             Michael Sattler, San Francisco
[email protected]                                   Michael and Susan Davis
[email protected]                                               Mark Slocomb
[email protected]                                         Nat Makarevitch
[email protected]                                                     Nigel Allen
[email protected]                                    Emmanuel Neuville
[email protected]                                                  [email protected]
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[email protected]                                         Gerald Olkowski
[email protected]                                        Gary Curtis
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Paul Post
[email protected]                                PAUL CHEVRIER AT DARTMOUTH
[email protected]                                              Paul E. Thomas
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                                Peter Lurie
[email protected]                                  Patrick J. O'Toole
[email protected]                                            Michael Purcell
[email protected]                                            Peter Zimmer
[email protected]                                        Roger A. Conlin
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[email protected]                                             PROTECH Services
[email protected]                                                    Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                                      Des Donnelly
[email protected]                                   Dick Harrigill
[email protected]                                              Richard Whisenhunt
[email protected]                                           Robert J. McIlree
[email protected]                                        robert shiels
[email protected]                                                Bob Downing
[email protected]                                             Ron Savage
[email protected]                                           Lee Roth
[email protected]                                        Rosalind Mackraz King
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                   Robert Camm
[email protected]                                       Roger Severn
[email protected]                                      Robert Tusler
[email protected]                                               Russell Gold
[email protected]                                              steven (s.w.) cline
[email protected]                                                 Scott Anderson
[email protected]                                    Sean Sengenberger
[email protected]                                              Sharon Foley
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[email protected]                                             Lynda L. True
[email protected]                                                 Kimberly Long
[email protected]                                        Sigurd Andersen
[email protected]                                        Stephen Joseph Smith
[email protected]                                         Rich Skrenta
[email protected]                                                 Susan Lee-Tanner
[email protected]                                               Stephen Diamond
[email protected]                                            SMITH, KARL J
[email protected]                                              Subodh Nijsure
[email protected]                                                        Aaron Snow
[email protected]                                   Steve Knodl
[email protected]                                           Steven Garman
[email protected]                              Su Hallenbeck
[email protected]                                              SALLY WILLARD
[email protected]                                                 Szarka
[email protected]                                                       Tom Benthin
[email protected]                         telnet accountschristina craft
[email protected]                            Technical Intelligence-MN-USA
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                       Terra
[email protected]                                                     Thomas F Lee
[email protected]                                               Tony Gifford
[email protected]                                Larry and Marinda Martin
[email protected]                                     Thomas D. Gasser
[email protected]                                        Thomas Whittaker
[email protected]                                   Tim Hubberstey
[email protected]                                               Tamara Lera
[email protected]                                              Tracy Sage
[email protected]                                                        Tim Cook
[email protected]                                      Ted "Theodore" (W) Leung
[email protected]                                                Antony Upward
[email protected]                                                   Dave
[email protected]                                        Hugh A. Valliant
[email protected]                                              Barry L. Van Hook
[email protected]                                                    Fred Gams
[email protected]                                                      Venkat
[email protected]                                    Chris Vesper
[email protected]                             Excellence is an attitude
[email protected]                                                  Hans Dingemans
[email protected]                                                Jim Cooper
[email protected]                               Alan Walendowski
[email protected]                                                     Rich Weyand
[email protected]                                             Don Wiggins
[email protected]                                           [email protected]
[email protected]                                                   Will Loving
[email protected]

Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Carl Howes
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                   Balaji
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                            C. Douglas Baker
[email protected]                                          Christian Much
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                    David Brazendale
[email protected]                                              Robert Harmon
[email protected]                                                Ian Piper
[email protected]                                 Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                              John Cooley
[email protected]                                     John B. Matthews
[email protected]                                                       John Leslie
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                   johndavid yoder
[email protected]                                            Lyle Youngblood
[email protected]                                    Martin Kendrick
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
[email protected]                                           Richard H. Schwartz
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                         Ross Beresford
[email protected]
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown

Abstained
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                        M. "minding my own business" Otto


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                    Ajay Gandhi (SWSE 626)
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[email protected]                                         Robert Rowshan u
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