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From [email protected] Fri May 28 16:17:07 1993
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From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
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Subject: RFD: misc.education.esl-efl
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                             REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (1)

This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of  English to speakers of other languages.
It will allow participants to exchangeinformation on  ESL/EFL
pedagogy, classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of
those working in the profession.

Group Name:

   misc.education.esl-efl


Status:

   Unmoderated

Background:

>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method,the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline.  English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL) has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.

Purpose:

The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.

 Discussion:

Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the
USENET Newsgroup  news.groups .  If the reader is not able to do so,
comments may be e-mailed to the proposer, at the address below.

Voting:

If no problems arise, voting will start one month from the posting
date of this RFD.

Proposer:

          [email protected]
          Julie Falsetti
          Hunter College
          City University of New York
          New York, NY

From [email protected] Fri Jun 11 15:53:17 1993
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From: Julie Falsetti <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,bit.listserv.words-l
Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.education.language.english
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                             REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (2)

Many USENET members suggested that the original name for the group
was confusing. Thus, the following name change is submitted for
discussion. All else remains unchanged.

This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of English to speakers of other languages.  It
will allow participants to exchange information on ESL/EFL pedagogy,
classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of those working
in the profession.

Group Name:

   FROM: misc.education.ESL-EFL
          to
   NEW NAME: misc.education.language.english


Status:

   Unmoderated

Background:

>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method,the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline.  English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL) has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.

Purpose:

The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.

 Discussion:

Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the
USENET Newsgroup  news.groups .  If the reader is not able to do so,
comments may be e-mailed to the proposer, at the address below.

Voting:

If no problems arise, voting will start one month from the posting
date of this RFD.

Proposer:

          [email protected]
          Julie Falsetti
          Hunter College
          City University of New York
          New York, NY

From [email protected] Tue Jul 13 09:24:56 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.listserv.words-l,misc.education
Subject: CFV: misc.education.language.english
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            Call for Votes: misc.education.language.english
            ===============================================

This is an official call for votes with regard to the proposed creation
of a newsgroup 'misc.education.language.english'. A suggested charter
for this group was first posted on May 27. Because of questions
regarding the name of the group, a 2nd RFD was posted on June 10.
No further objections were raised during the subsequent thirty-
day period. Following are instructions for voting and notice of the
proposed group's charter.

Voting Instructions (IMPORTANT)

-- all votes must be sent by *email* to

            [email protected]

   On no account should votes be posted to any Usenet newsgroup.
   Such votes will be considered invalid.

-- Votes should contain a line in the form

  I vote FOR the group misc.education.language.english

  OR a line in the form

  I vote AGAINST the group misc.education.language.english

  These forms need not be adhered to exactly, but the message should
  contain (in a single line) one of the words FOR, YES, AGAINST, NO
  as desired, along with the name of the group and the word 'vote'.

--- Voting will end on August 9, 12:00 EDT. Votes received after
    that time will not be counted.

___ No individual may vote more than once.

--- The usual Usenet requirements for newsgroup cration hold: at
    least two-thirds of the votes received should be yes/for votes
    and there should be at least 100 more yes/for votes than
    no/against votes.

CHARTER

This is a call for votes on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of  English to speakers of other languages.
It will allow participants to exchangeinformation on  ESL/EFL
pedagogy, classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of
those working in the profession.

Group Name:

    misc.education.language.english

Status:

   Unmoderated

Background:

>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method, the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline.  English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization, Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL), has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.

Purpose:

The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.

Proposer:

          [email protected]
          Julie Falsetti
          Hunter College
          City University of New York
          New York, NY

From [email protected] Mon Aug  2 11:31:31 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: misc.education.language.english
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Date: 2 Aug 1993 10:30:51 -0400
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This is the 2nd official Call for Votes and Vote acknowledgement
of votes received so far. Vote acknowledgements follow the original
CFV proposal.

            Call for Votes: misc.education.language.english
            ===============================================

This is an official call for votes with regard to the proposed creation
of a newsgroup 'misc.education.language.english'. A suggested charter
for this group was first posted on May 27. Because of questions
regarding the name of the group, a 2nd RFD was posted on June 10.
No further objections were raised during the subsequent thirty-
day period. Following are instructions for voting and notice of the
proposed group's charter.

Voting Instructions (IMPORTANT)

-- all votes must be sent by *email* to

            [email protected]

   On no account should votes be posted to any Usenet newsgroup.
   Such votes will be considered invalid.

-- Votes should contain a line in the form

  I vote FOR the group misc.education.language.english

  OR a line in the form

  I vote AGAINST the group misc.education.language.english

  These forms need not be adhered to exactly, but the message should
  contain (in a single line) one of the words FOR, YES, AGAINST, NO
  as desired, along with the name of the group and the word 'vote'.

--- Voting will end on August 9, 12:00 EDT. Votes received after
    that time will not be counted.

___ No individual may vote more than once.

--- The usual Usenet requirements for newsgroup cration hold: at
    least two-thirds of the votes received should be yes/for votes
    and there should be at least 100 more yes/for votes than
    no/against votes.

CHARTER

This is a call for votes on the creation of a newsgroup
concerning the teaching of  English to speakers of other languages.
It will allow participants to exchangeinformation on  ESL/EFL
pedagogy, classroom practices and techniques, and the concerns of
those working in the profession.

Group Name:

    misc.education.language.english

Status:

   Unmoderated

Background:

>From its inception in the late 1800's using the grammar translation
method, the teaching of English has evolved into a recognized
discipline.  English is now the most spoken second language and has
replaced French as the lingua franca of the world. Its professional
organization, Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages
(TESOL), has approximately 23,000 members, and International
Association of Teachers of English as a Foreign Language (IATEFL),
its European counterpart, has approximately 7,000 members.

Purpose:

The primary goal of this group is to allow participants to exchange
information about ESL/EFL pedagogy, classroom practices and
concerns, second language acquisition, and the general state of the
profession.

Proposer:

          [email protected]
          Julie Falsetti
          Hunter College
          City University of New York
          New York, NY
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                      VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

<[email protected]>
(Jeffrey D. Angus) [email protected]
"ALI A. AGHBAR" <[email protected]>
"Don Moore"  <[email protected]>
"Elka.Todeva" <[email protected]>
"Fred Swartz" <[email protected]>
"John Oliver" <[email protected]>
"Michael J. Quinn" <[email protected]>
"TeresaRoss          " <[email protected]>
Alan Trivett <[email protected]>
Alison Rice <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Bill Nickless <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Bob Christ)
CALIX <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Cynthia Bermudez)
CHARLES SANDY <[email protected]>
[email protected] (charlie fingerhut)
CSH%[email protected]
David Pincus <[email protected]>
David Tillyer <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Doug Payne <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Daniel SAVEY)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Greenberg, Eldad,OSC)
Elizabeth Guthrie <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Mike Engelhardt)
[email protected] (enzyme)
Eric Schweitzer <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Farrukh Hakeem <[email protected]>
Foo Say How <[email protected]>
Georg Schwarz <[email protected]>
George Baltz <[email protected]>
Graham Toal <[email protected]>
Greg Morrow <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Brennan Tennesen Price)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Hardcore Alaskan <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Steve Hayes)
Heikki J Korpinen <[email protected]>
Heltsley April <[email protected]>
[email protected] (sam frajerman)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jim Chaffee)
[email protected]
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Jim Cheetham)
[email protected]
[email protected] (=Jody Gevins Underwood)
[email protected] (Joe Allen)
John Dumicich <[email protected]>
John G. Lindner <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John Leslie)
[email protected] (Joshua J. Caron)
Joyce Wang <[email protected]>
Judi Tenuta Stein <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Julian Macassey)
Kate Garretson <[email protected]>
Kathleen Schirra <[email protected]>
Kathryn Allahyari <[email protected]>
Kathryn Nikodem <[email protected]>
Kevin Junck <[email protected]>
Lee Levine <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Luciano Mannucci)
Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Alan McCain)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Michael Feldman)
Michele <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Moises Szponka (UCV))
Murray Nesbitt <[email protected]>
NAKAMATSU%[email protected]
Peter Farrell <[email protected]>
Peter W Lee <[email protected]>
[email protected] (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY)
[email protected] (Daniel S. Rice)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
Rita Elaine Silver <SILVERR%[email protected]>
Robin C Vue-Benson-1 <[email protected]>
Ron Graham <[email protected]>
Ronald R. Corio <[email protected]>
Ruth Martin <NCCUT129%[email protected]>
Ryan Bayne <[email protected]>
[email protected] (ddd)
Shane Hartman <[email protected]>
Shera <[email protected]>
Silvia Quijano Rivadeneyra <[email protected]>
STEPHEN MITCHELL <MITCHELL%[email protected]>
[email protected] (Steve McGuire)
Susan Simon <[email protected]>
Systems Coordinator 855-1958 <[email protected]>
Takashi Matsunaga <MATUNAGA%[email protected]>
Thomas Flynn Riedmiller <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Thomas Nixon)
[email protected] (Timothy Stewart)
Tin Tin <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Ted Koppel)
Tomorrow <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Theresa P. Ammirati)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Thomas Robb)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Tim Schmidt)
William Gathergood <[email protected]>
Yamil Sacin <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Wed Aug 11 14:47:43 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Julie Falsetti)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.listserv.words-l,misc.education
Subject: RESULT: misc.education.language.english passes 143:26
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YES        NO           2/3?         >100?     PASS?
===        ===          ===          =====     =====
143        26           yes           yes       yes

Assuming no objections to the voting procedure, misc.education.language.
english will be created in about a week. The vote acknowledgements
follow. Many thanks to everyone who voted!


YES Votes
=========================================================================
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
Abner J. Mintz" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Nigel Allen)
[email protected]
Alan Trivett <[email protected]>
ALI A. AGHBAR" <[email protected]>
Alison Rice <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Andrew Blaner <[email protected]>
audrey" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
CALIX <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Cynthia Bermudez)
CHARLES SANDY <[email protected]>
[email protected] (charlie fingerhut)
Christine Norris - Local 2357 <[email protected]>
Clements <[email protected]>
CSH%[email protected]
David Pincus <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dean Edwards)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Deborah Foreman-Takano)
[email protected]
Don Linder <[email protected]>
Don Moore"  <[email protected]>
Doug Payne <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Daniel SAVEY)
[email protected] (Dave E. Goggin)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Dale Eckart)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Greenberg, Eldad,OSC)
Elizabeth Guthrie <[email protected]>
Elka.Todeva" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Mike Engelhardt)
[email protected] (enzyme)
Eric Schweitzer <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
Farrukh Hakeem <[email protected]>
Foo Say How <[email protected]>
Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC" <[email protected]>
Fred Swartz" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Brennan Tennesen Price)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Hardcore Alaskan <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Steve Hayes)
Heikki J Korpinen <[email protected]>
Heltsley April <[email protected]>
[email protected] (ICP)
[email protected] (ishmael)
[email protected] (sam frajerman)
Jack Cousineau <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jim Chaffee)
[email protected]
Jean Graham <R1JEG%[email protected]>
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Jim Cheetham)
[email protected]
[email protected] (=Jody Gevins Underwood)
John Dumicich <[email protected]>
John G. Lindner <[email protected]>
John Oliver" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Joshua J. Caron)
Joyce Wang <[email protected]>
Juan Parra <[email protected]>
Judi Tenuta Stein <[email protected]>
Julie Falsetti <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Kate Garretson <[email protected]>
Kathleen Schirra <[email protected]>
Kathryn Allahyari <[email protected]>
Kathryn Nikodem <[email protected]>
Kenneth C. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
Kevin Junck <[email protected]>
Kevin Ryan <RYAN%[email protected]>
Lee Levine <[email protected]>
Loren J. Miller" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Luciano Mannucci)
LYNNE L. HSU" <[email protected]>
Martha Hsu <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Alan McCain)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Michael Feldman)
michael <[email protected]>
Michael J. Quinn" <[email protected]>
Michele <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Moises Szponka (UCV))
[email protected] (Vasudev Murthy)
NAKAMATSU%[email protected]
Nancy Larkin <[email protected]>
Paul Estin <[email protected]>
Peter Farrell <[email protected]>
Peter W Lee <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Patrick G. Xavier)
[email protected] (Steven Rapkin)
[email protected] (Ross Bender)
[email protected]
[email protected] (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY)
[email protected] (Robert E. Maas  [email protected])
[email protected] (Daniel S. Rice)
Richard Hewison <[email protected]>
Rita Elaine Silver <SILVERR%[email protected]>
Robin C Vue-Benson-1 <[email protected]>
Ron Graham <[email protected]>
Ronald R. Corio <[email protected]>
Rose Wang <[email protected]>
Ruth Martin <NCCUT129%[email protected]>
Samuli K{rkk{inen <[email protected]>
[email protected] (ddd)
Sharon Sealy Lang. Education <[email protected]>
Shera <[email protected]>
Silvia Quijano Rivadeneyra <[email protected]>
STEPHEN MITCHELL <MITCHELL%[email protected]>
[email protected] (Steve McGuire)
Sun-treader <[email protected]>
Systems Coordinator 855-1958 <[email protected]>
Tai.David" <[email protected]>
Takashi Matsunaga <MATUNAGA%[email protected]>
TeresaRoss          " <[email protected]>
Terry Futaba <[email protected]>
Thomas Flynn Riedmiller <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Thomas Nixon)
[email protected] (Timothy Stewart)
Tin Tin <[email protected]>
Tomorrow <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Theresa P. Ammirati)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Thomas Robb)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Wendy Allison <[email protected]>
[email protected]
William Gathergood <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Yamil Sacin <[email protected]>
[email protected]

NO Votes
=======================================================================
Jeffrey D. Angus) [email protected]
Bill Nickless <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Bob Christ)
Daniel Zirin" <[email protected]>
David Tillyer <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Ed McGuire)
Georg Schwarz <[email protected]>
George Baltz <[email protected]>
Graham Toal <[email protected]>
Greg Morrow <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Irene A. Juzkiw" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Joe Allen)
[email protected] (John Leslie)
[email protected] (Julian Macassey)
[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS <[email protected]>
Murray Nesbitt <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Naren Bala)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
Ryan Bayne <[email protected]>
Shane Hartman <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Smarasderagd Draco)
Susan Simon <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Ted Koppel)
[email protected] (Rick Wagner)

 
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