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From [email protected] Mon Oct 10 13:03:47 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steven Garman)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,misc.entrepreneurs,alt.business.misc,biz.general
Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.entrepreneurs.moderated moderated
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This Request For Discussion (RFD) is being publicly posted, in 
accordance with the process of creating a USENET newsgroup, as 
given in the document "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" 
(found on news.announce.newgroups; maintained by David Lawrence 
<[email protected]>).

The proposed moderated newsgroup is to be made to allow business/
entrepreneurial discussions to take place in an atmosphere that is 
not like the current advertisement-heavy one of misc.entrepreneurs, 
which detracts from the discussions greatly.  The ability to advertise 
in that newsgroup is constantly overreached.  Thus, to avoid an 
abundance of advertisement postings, all ability to advertise in the 
new group must be removed; this can only be done by moderation.  The 
proposed moderation will not detract from the sufficiency of 
alternatives that exist for ad posting spaces (misc.entrepreneurs, 
biz.general, the proposed biz.vendors.announce, and whatever newsgroup 
the advertisers create themselves), whereas it will provide a 
sufficient alternative for discussions of entrepreneurial interest, 
which currently *does not exist*.

There will be one moderator, and one or more assistant moderators 
(AMs).

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begin charter--------------------------------------------begin charter
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CHARTER, misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
_____________________________________

The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of 
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like:  starting a business, 
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining 
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents, 
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc.
_____________________________________

The following will be allowed:

  Entrepreneurial discussions.
  Discussions on operating a small business.
  MLM discussions.
  Business methodologies and philosophies.
  Business conferences/seminars from gov agencies or universities.
  Business conferences/seminars from some NPOs.
  Informational postings of news articles.
  Sigs (which may contain ads) that do not exceed 6 lines.
  Sigs that exceed 6 lines, but will be clipped by the moderator.
  Limited discussions on the group's moderation policies.

The following will not be allowed:

  Cross-posting to misc.entrepreneurs.
  Spams of any sort.
  MAKE.MONEY.FAST and other such illegal postings.
  Blatant advertisements for products or services.
  China Business Journal and things like it.
  Business conferences/seminars from private organizations.
  MLM discussions that advertise or promote an MLM.
  Investor/capitalist proposals and contacts.
  Excessive discussions on the group's moderation policies.
  Anti- or Pro-MLM diatribes.
  Flames (will be referred to email).

The following will be allowed, but discouraged by the moderator:

  Posts that were intended to be private responses.
_____________________________________

Posts will be judged strictly by the above criteria, and by whichever 
moderator that is doing the work.  Rejected posts will not be 
returned; instead, a form letter might be returned, which will have a 
checklist denoting the problem(s) that caused the rejection.

Changes to the moderation policies are the duty and responsibility of 
the moderator.  Before changes are done, the moderator will do two 
things:  1) Run any proposed changes by the AM(s), to gain AM advice.  
2) Post proposed policy changes to the newsgroup, to obtain reader 
advice.

Transfers of moderation workload will take place by the moderator's 
arrangement with one of the AMs.  Once arranged, the moderator will 
place the target AM Internet address(es) in his ".forward" file.  This 
will be done for as long as the arrangement called for.

New assistant moderators may be added, in a voting procedure that 
mimics the CFV procedure.  The proposed, added, assistant moderator 
will be presented to the newsgroup in an pseudo-CFV, by the moderator; 
yea/nay votes will be collected by the moderator via email for 2 
weeks (votes which are only posted will be ignored); the outcome must 
be 2/3rds in favor, in order to accept the new assistant moderator.  
Once there are 3 AMs, no new nominations will be accepted until such 
time as the moderation group (primary and assistants) agrees that 
there is a need for additional AMs.

The moderator and AMs will exchange phone numbers and keep in touch, 
to minimize newsgroup downtime if a transferral of moderation needs 
to take place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
end charter------------------------------------------------end charter
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The proposed moderator will be Mr. Steven Garman 
([email protected]).

"Mr. Garman has been active on the Internet since June 1992.  He 
started out as [email protected], with no major problems with his 
sysadmin (Elisabeth Schwartz ([email protected])), and went to 
world.std.com in August 1994.  He is 27; single; by trade, an 
electronic/computer technician of 8 years experience.  He has worked 
in the military and in civilian organizations.  He dropped out of 
college to join a friend, who began a high-tech startup company that 
sought to develop an invention (an aerospace and otherwise structural 
material process).  He is a Shareware author.  He was an associate 
producer of a nationally-distributed, instructional baseball video.  
He has invested in, and advised, an instructional airbrushing video 
company.  He has coauthored three technical grants to US Federal 
government agencies.  He has consulted for other small business, using 
his technical expertise, and advised many users on Internet usage.  He 
has been a long-time reader/poster in misc.entrepreneurs, and has been 
the active Archivist for the newsgroup since June 1994.  He is self-
taught in programming, business and history."

The proposed assistant moderator will be Mr. David Harrison 
([email protected]).

"David is an entrepreneurial management major in the Wharton School 
of Business at the University of Pennsylvania.  He has had experience 
in initiating several small business ventures, and is currently 
pursuing an opportunity to serve the University Community in all 
their recreational needs.  He has been an active follower of groups in 
the biz.* hierarchy and of misc.entrepreneurs for over a year."

In accordance to the above documents, this RFD must result in a final 
version of the Charter for misc.entrepreneurs.moderated within 30 days 
after being posted, or the public discussion will be stopped, and the 
problems must be worked out in private email; this rule will be 
enforced by the proposed moderator and/or the moderator of 
news.announce.newgroups (in accordance with the newsgroup-creation 
document listed above).  If this occurs, and the problems are 
resolved, then the RFD will be publicly resubmitted for another 
possible 30-day period.  And so on, until the proposer gives up, or 
the final RFD is achieved to the satisfaction of the proposer.

At the end of the successful period of discussing the proposed 
group, the Call For Votes (CFV) will take place.  Then the period 
of voting will begin, and votes will officially be taken.

	Do not alter the cross-postings or Follow-Up line in 
		this post when replies are made.

	Do not reply privately via email; the RFD 
		is a public affair.
-- 
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From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:51:44 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.entrepreneurs,alt.business.misc,biz.general,alt.inventors
Subject: CFV: misc.entrepreneurs.moderated moderated
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2a)
	     moderated group misc.entrepreneurs.moderated

Newsgroups line:
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated	Entrepreneur/business topics.  (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 December 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Steven Garman <[email protected]>


CHARTER

The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of 
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like:  starting a business, 
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining 
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents, 
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc.
_____________________________________

The following will be allowed:

  Entrepreneurial discussions.
  Discussions on operating a small business.
  MLM discussions.
  Business methodologies and philosophies.
  Business conferences/seminars from gov agencies or universities.
  Business conferences/seminars from some NPOs.
  Informational postings of news articles.
  Sigs (which may contain ads) that do not exceed 6 lines.
  Sigs that exceed 6 lines, but will be clipped by the moderator.
  Limited discussions on the group's moderation policies.

The following will not be allowed:

  Spams of any sort.
  MAKE.MONEY.FAST and other such illegal postings.
  Blatant advertisements for products or services.
  China Business Journal and things like it.
  Business conferences/seminars from private organizations.
  MLM discussions that advertise or promote an MLM.
  Investor/capitalist proposals and contacts.
  Excessive discussions on the group's moderation policies.
  Anti- or Pro-MLM diatribes.
  Flames (will be referred to email).

The following will be allowed, but discouraged by the moderator:

  Posts that were intended to be private responses.
_____________________________________

Posts will be judged strictly by the above criteria, and by whichever 
moderator that is doing the work.  Rejected posts will not be 
returned; instead, a form letter might be returned, which will have a 
checklist denoting the problem(s) that caused the rejection.

Changes to the moderation policies are the duty and responsibility of 
the moderator.  Before changes are done, the moderator will do two 
things:  1) Run any proposed changes by the AM(s), to gain AM advice.  
2) Post proposed policy changes to the newsgroup, to obtain reader 
advice.

Transfers of moderation workload will take place by the moderator's 
arrangement with one of the AMs.  Once arranged, the moderator will 
place the target AM Internet address(es) in his ".forward" file.  This 
will be done for as long as the arrangement called for.

New assistant moderators may be added, in a voting procedure that 
mimics the CFV procedure.  The proposed, added, assistant moderator 
will be presented to the newsgroup in an pseudo-CFV, by the moderator; 
yea/nay votes will be collected by the moderator via email for 2 
weeks (votes which are only posted will be ignored); the outcome must 
be 2/3rds in favor, in order to accept the new assistant moderator.  
Once there are 3 AMs, no new nominations will be accepted until such 
time as the moderation group (primary and assistants) agrees that 
there is a need for additional AMs.

The moderator and AMs will exchange phone numbers and keep in touch, 
to minimize newsgroup downtime if a transferral of moderation needs 
to take place.

MODERATOR:
	Steven Garman <[email protected]>
MODERATION ADDRESS:
	[email protected]

WHY THIS CFV SHOULD PASS:

The newsgroup misc.entrepreneurs has been overrun by advertising for
some time, but moderating that newsgroup raises issues of censorship.
It seems accomodating to many users that a new newsgroup be created,
side by side with misc.entrepreneurs, that will offer moderated
discussion free from advertising of the nature that has made
misc.entrepreneurs nearly unreadable.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
      I vote NO on misc.entrepreneurs.moderated

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 15:35:52 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.entrepreneurs,alt.business.misc,biz.general,alt.inventors
Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.entrepreneurs.moderated moderated
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2a)
             moderated group misc.entrepreneurs.moderated

Newsgroups line:
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated    Entrepreneur/business topics.  (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 December 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Steven Garman <[email protected]>


CHARTER

The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of 
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like:  starting a business, 
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining 
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents, 
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc.
_____________________________________

The following will be allowed:

  Entrepreneurial discussions.
  Discussions on operating a small business.
  MLM discussions.
  Business methodologies and philosophies.
  Business conferences/seminars from gov agencies or universities.
  Business conferences/seminars from some NPOs.
  Informational postings of news articles.
  Sigs (which may contain ads) that do not exceed 6 lines.
  Sigs that exceed 6 lines, but will be clipped by the moderator.
  Limited discussions on the group's moderation policies.

The following will not be allowed:

  Spams of any sort.
  MAKE.MONEY.FAST and other such illegal postings.
  Blatant advertisements for products or services.
  China Business Journal and things like it.
  Business conferences/seminars from private organizations.
  MLM discussions that advertise or promote an MLM.
  Investor/capitalist proposals and contacts.
  Excessive discussions on the group's moderation policies.
  Anti- or Pro-MLM diatribes.
  Flames (will be referred to email).

The following will be allowed, but discouraged by the moderator:

  Posts that were intended to be private responses.
_____________________________________

Posts will be judged strictly by the above criteria, and by whichever 
moderator that is doing the work.  Rejected posts will not be 
returned; instead, a form letter might be returned, which will have a 
checklist denoting the problem(s) that caused the rejection.

Changes to the moderation policies are the duty and responsibility of 
the moderator.  Before changes are done, the moderator will do two 
things:  1) Run any proposed changes by the AM(s), to gain AM advice.  
2) Post proposed policy changes to the newsgroup, to obtain reader 
advice.

Transfers of moderation workload will take place by the moderator's 
arrangement with one of the AMs.  Once arranged, the moderator will 
place the target AM Internet address(es) in his ".forward" file.  This 
will be done for as long as the arrangement called for.

New assistant moderators may be added, in a voting procedure that 
mimics the CFV procedure.  The proposed, added, assistant moderator 
will be presented to the newsgroup in an pseudo-CFV, by the moderator; 
yea/nay votes will be collected by the moderator via email for 2 
weeks (votes which are only posted will be ignored); the outcome must 
be 2/3rds in favor, in order to accept the new assistant moderator.  
Once there are 3 AMs, no new nominations will be accepted until such 
time as the moderation group (primary and assistants) agrees that 
there is a need for additional AMs.

The moderator and AMs will exchange phone numbers and keep in touch, 
to minimize newsgroup downtime if a transferral of moderation needs 
to take place.

MODERATOR:
        Steven Garman <[email protected]>
MODERATION ADDRESS:
        [email protected]

WHY THIS CFV SHOULD PASS:

The newsgroup misc.entrepreneurs has been overrun by advertising for
some time, but moderating that newsgroup raises issues of censorship.
It seems accomodating to many users that a new newsgroup be created,
side by side with misc.entrepreneurs, that will offer moderated
discussion free from advertising of the nature that has made
misc.entrepreneurs nearly unreadable.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
      I vote NO on misc.entrepreneurs.moderated

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



misc.entrepreneurs.moderated Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                        Bob Zinn
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                     Doug Devine
[email protected]                                                       Jon Hoyt
[email protected]                             Wiksell, Parker

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Jan  5 14:26:30 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.entrepreneurs,alt.business.misc,biz.general,alt.inventors
Subject: RESULT: misc.entrepreneurs.moderated moderated passes 350:28
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 5 Jan 1995 14:15:13 -0500
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Lines: 510
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Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group misc.entrepreneurs.moderated passes 350:28

There were 350 YES votes and 28 NO votes, for a total of 378 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 5 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


 Newsgroups line:
 misc.entrepreneurs.moderated    Entrepreneur/business topics.  (Moderated)

 This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
 questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
 proposed group contact Steven Garman <[email protected]>


 CHARTER

 The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of 
 entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like:  starting a business, 
 finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining 
 appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents, 
 handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc.
 _____________________________________

 The following will be allowed:

   Entrepreneurial discussions.
   Discussions on operating a small business.
   MLM discussions.
   Business methodologies and philosophies.
   Business conferences/seminars from gov agencies or universities.
   Business conferences/seminars from some NPOs.
   Informational postings of news articles.
   Sigs (which may contain ads) that do not exceed 6 lines.
   Sigs that exceed 6 lines, but will be clipped by the moderator.
   Limited discussions on the group's moderation policies.

 The following will not be allowed:

   Spams of any sort.
   MAKE.MONEY.FAST and other such illegal postings.
   Blatant advertisements for products or services.
   China Business Journal and things like it.
   Business conferences/seminars from private organizations.
   MLM discussions that advertise or promote an MLM.
   Investor/capitalist proposals and contacts.
   Excessive discussions on the group's moderation policies.
   Anti- or Pro-MLM diatribes.
   Flames (will be referred to email).

 The following will be allowed, but discouraged by the moderator:

   Posts that were intended to be private responses.
 _____________________________________

 Posts will be judged strictly by the above criteria, and by whichever 
 moderator that is doing the work.  Rejected posts will not be 
 returned; instead, a form letter might be returned, which will have a 
 checklist denoting the problem(s) that caused the rejection.

 Changes to the moderation policies are the duty and responsibility of 
 the moderator.  Before changes are done, the moderator will do two 
 things:  1) Run any proposed changes by the AM(s), to gain AM advice.  
 2) Post proposed policy changes to the newsgroup, to obtain reader 
 advice.

 Transfers of moderation workload will take place by the moderator's 
 arrangement with one of the AMs.  Once arranged, the moderator will 
 place the target AM Internet address(es) in his ".forward" file.  This 
 will be done for as long as the arrangement called for.

 New assistant moderators may be added, in a voting procedure that 
 mimics the CFV procedure.  The proposed, added, assistant moderator 
 will be presented to the newsgroup in an pseudo-CFV, by the moderator; 
 yea/nay votes will be collected by the moderator via email for 2 
 weeks (votes which are only posted will be ignored); the outcome must 
 be 2/3rds in favor, in order to accept the new assistant moderator.  
 Once there are 3 AMs, no new nominations will be accepted until such 
 time as the moderation group (primary and assistants) agrees that 
 there is a need for additional AMs.

 The moderator and AMs will exchange phone numbers and keep in touch, 
 to minimize newsgroup downtime if a transferral of moderation needs 
 to take place.

 MODERATOR:
	 Steven Garman <[email protected]>
 MODERATION ADDRESS:
	 [email protected]

 WHY THIS CFV SHOULD PASS:

 The newsgroup misc.entrepreneurs has been overrun by advertising for
 some time, but moderating that newsgroup raises issues of censorship.
 It seems accomodating to many users that a new newsgroup be created,
 side by side with misc.entrepreneurs, that will offer moderated
 discussion free from advertising of the nature that has made
 misc.entrepreneurs nearly unreadable.


misc.entrepreneurs.moderated Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                             Smale Paul R
[email protected]                                   J. R. (Jim) Swartz
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[email protected]                                                Andrew C. Green
[email protected]                                       Allison G Cherner
[email protected]                                      Jonathan Adair
[email protected]                                        Applied Economics Corp.
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[email protected]                                             Afzal Ballim
[email protected]                                            David W Wheat
[email protected]                                       Akin Solarin
[email protected]                                               Anita Lauro
[email protected]                                          Anne Louise Gockel
[email protected]                                                Richard Alpert
[email protected]                                           Sargasso
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[email protected]                                                      Amit Peleg
[email protected]                                              Mark Horsburgh
[email protected]                                            Jonathan Crawford
[email protected]                                  American Supply Int'l Inc.
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                                  Amy Knock
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                             Jeffrey James Baker
[email protected]                                                      Joe Bamert
[email protected]                                         Barry E. Henderson
[email protected]                         Bayatti Design and Trade Company
[email protected]                                               Bram Cohen
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[email protected]                                             B. Bhullar
[email protected]                                         Bjornulf Hafstad
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                             Benjamin Kyan
[email protected]                                        Bob Zinn
[email protected]                                               Bob Savage
[email protected]                                         David Bonorden
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                               Brian G.
[email protected]                                               Bruce Baugh
[email protected]                                               Bala Swaminathan
[email protected]                                               Barbara Theus
[email protected]                                                    
[email protected]                                          John Bunch
[email protected]                                                 Keith Hamburger
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                    Carlson Chris
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                                           Christopher Hall
[email protected]                       Christopher Bradford Stone
[email protected]                                    Chakra Srivatsa
[email protected]                                     Charleen Bunjiovianna
[email protected]                                            Charu Chaubal
[email protected]                                                 Chinese Press
[email protected]                                         M. Christopher Davies
[email protected]                                         Christopher Ogg
[email protected]                                               Cindy Englander
[email protected]                                                Craig Krantz
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                    Diane Barlow Close
[email protected]                                        Colin Edwards
[email protected]                                        Corporate Agents Inc.
[email protected]                               Ronald Thomas Coslick
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                         Constantine Papageorgiou
[email protected]                                                     Craig Eddy
[email protected]                                  Matthew Crosby
[email protected]                                              carl e snook
[email protected]                                                               
[email protected]                                       David A. Dubois
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                          David Stroop
[email protected]                                                  
[email protected]                                           David Barclay
[email protected]                                                 David W. Crawford
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                              David Pascua
[email protected]                                       Debbie Acton
[email protected]                       Dana E. Cartwright 315-442-9104
[email protected]                                             Dee-Ann LeBlanc
[email protected]                                                       D. DeVine
[email protected]                                                                
[email protected]                                            DELPHI GROUP CANADA
[email protected]                                                 Derek W. Kay
[email protected]                                     Doug Devine
[email protected]                                                Daniel Hartung
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                             Dave Dischert
[email protected]                                            Dennis McNamara
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                           David Neal Miller
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[email protected]                                                Donald McRoberts
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                                     Dennis Doty
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                              Douglas Ide
[email protected]                                                    Daniel Sabo
[email protected]                                                                
[email protected]                                                 Dave Cheeseman
[email protected]                                  David Weislogel
[email protected]                                               Erik B Sherman
[email protected]                                                        Ed Goldgehn
[email protected]                                               Ed Thompson
[email protected]                                                  Neil H. Eklund
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[email protected]                                                   Elin Kordahl
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[email protected]                                   Joseph A. Polcari Jr.
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[email protected]                                                 Troy Savage
[email protected]                                             Jim Hayes
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[email protected]                                             Kenneth Barnard
[email protected]                 Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran
[email protected]                               Keith Gallie
[email protected]                                                   Kenneth Bob
[email protected]                                            Kenneth East
[email protected]                                        Ken Ford
[email protected]                              Ruchir Kumar Khurana
[email protected]                                          Jacqueline Hamilton
[email protected]                                                     Bill Kisse
[email protected]                                             Karin McEwen
[email protected]                                          Richard Koehl
[email protected]                                            Kirk Stewart
[email protected]                                         Edward Korthof
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[email protected]                                              Lantz Rowland
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[email protected]                                              Lorne A. Cooke
[email protected]                                                     Paul Leamon
[email protected]                                                     Lee Stral
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[email protected]                                          Lisa Bashir
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[email protected]                                                  Larry Miller
[email protected]                                               Mark Long
[email protected]                                                        Luis Ruiz
[email protected]                                                           Tony Luk
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[email protected]                                                        John
[email protected]                     Michael \"MAJIK\" Fountain
[email protected]                        MAKOWSKI CHRISTOPHER P
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[email protected]                                Mark W. Aurit
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[email protected]                                               Michael Chase
[email protected]                                                   Michael Clark
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[email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb
[email protected]                                                   Mark Greer
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[email protected]                                     Dr. Finklestein
[email protected]                                  Michael Tunnecliffe
[email protected]                                          Michael Trachtman
[email protected]                                                 Joe Milligan
[email protected]                                   Ron Mink - Pacific Biotech Inc.
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[email protected]                                          Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                       Todd Murray
[email protected]                                                Mel Walker
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[email protected]                                         Nancy Herther
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[email protected]                                                   Jon Noring
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[email protected]                                            Oliver Sharp
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[email protected]                                             Oscar O. Lawson II
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[email protected]                                             Ken J. Ouimet
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[email protected]                                        Paul Hettrick
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[email protected]                                        Pola Wojcik
[email protected]                                     J. Porter Clark
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[email protected]                                      June R. Quackenbush
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[email protected]                                         Rich Skrenta
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[email protected]                                          Chris Stebbing
[email protected]                                             Michael Steding
[email protected]                                               David Stephens
[email protected]                                  Steve Chambers
[email protected]                                               Steve
[email protected]                                  Steven Knodl
[email protected]                                               Steve Siegel
[email protected]                         Hershey-ASH001 Steve
[email protected]                                              Don Melvin
[email protected]                                    Stuart Whitmore
[email protected]                                           Steven Garman
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[email protected]                                             Terra Goodnight
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[email protected]                                     Pamela Thomas (SVT)
[email protected]                                           Tom Whittaker
[email protected]                                                    Tim Bushko
[email protected]                                                     Tony Meade
[email protected]                                               Tom White
[email protected]                                              Tom Powers
[email protected]                         Thomas E. Simkins" (CCAC-BENET)
[email protected]                                                   Tony Ohe
[email protected]                                          Silver Omega
[email protected]                                          Bob Kastigar
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[email protected]                                            VRB
[email protected]                                   Victoria Posner
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[email protected]                                       Sitaram Ramaswamy
[email protected]                                       Stephen Potter
[email protected]                                                 David Waddell
[email protected]                                       Charles A Wakeland
[email protected]                                          Craig Weeks
[email protected]                                          Bill Houston
[email protected]                             Wiksell, Parker
[email protected]                              William Tunstall-Pedoe
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[email protected]                            H  Lee Richardson
[email protected]                                                   Kate Gregory
[email protected]                                             Mark Gordon Foss
[email protected]                                               Les Symes
[email protected]                                             Steve Arlow
[email protected]                                                meksikatsi
[email protected]                                          Ken Ziebert
[email protected]                                          Uwe Zimmermann

Voted No
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[email protected]                                              Bengt Larsson
[email protected]                                            William Kennedy
[email protected]                                         Cory L. Scott
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
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[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                   Craig Burley
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                Helmut Geyer
[email protected]                                                      Jay Hennigan
[email protected]                                    Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                               Jim Drake
[email protected]                                              J.J. Linden
[email protected]                                             Dennis Krueger
[email protected]                                                    Martin Fries
[email protected]                                                    John Nagle
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                          Jerry Rhodes
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                 The Great Pumpkin
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                      Tae   Chun -  World  Marketing  Network
[email protected]                                                   Una Smith
[email protected]                                    Willy Congson

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


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[email protected]                                 Paul Regan
   ! Conflicting votes
[email protected]                                              David Oswald
   ! Conflicting votes
[email protected]                                                   gary harper
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                   Daniel Joseph Rubin
   ! Invalid address
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