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Name: Misc.legal.moderated

Status:   Moderated. Larry Kolodney, aka [email protected], has
          volunteered to serve as initial moderator.

Charter:  Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.
-- 
Bernie Cosell                               [email protected]
Fantasy Farm Fibers, Pearisburg, VA         (703) 921-2358

From [email protected] Tue Oct 12 15:07:26 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
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                FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 2)

Moderated group misc.legal.moderated

misc.legal.moderated	All aspects of law. (Moderated)

Larry Kolodney <[email protected]> has volunteered to serve as the inital moderator
for misc.legal.moderated.

Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 2 Nov 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Voting questions
should be directed to Ed Bailey <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group, contact Bernie Cosell <[email protected]>.

CHARTER and DISCUSSION
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Name: Misc.legal.moderated

Status:   Moderated. Larry Kolodney, aka [email protected], has
          volunteered to serve as initial moderator.

Charter:  Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.


STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      [email protected]
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on misc.legal.moderated
or
      I vote NO on misc.legal.moderated

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement
involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a
single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".

You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within
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ACKs for undeliverable mail.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

This vote will be counted using Ron Dippold's UseVote software, version 2.*.
This vote is conducted by a member of the Usenet Volunteer Voters.

Ed Bailey
Member, Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
-- 
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,zonker}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."

From [email protected] Mon Oct 25 19:21:58 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.legal,misc.legal.computing,misc.int-property,comp.patents,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.privacy
Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.legal.moderated moderated
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                SECOND AND FINAL CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 2)

Moderated group misc.legal.moderated

misc.legal.moderated	All aspects of law. (Moderated)

Larry Kolodney <[email protected]> has volunteered to serve as the inital moderator
for misc.legal.moderated.

Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 2 Nov 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Voting questions
should be directed to Ed Bailey <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group, contact Bernie Cosell <[email protected]>.

CHARTER and DISCUSSION
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Name: Misc.legal.moderated

Status:   Moderated. Larry Kolodney, aka [email protected], has
          volunteered to serve as initial moderator.

Charter:  Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.


STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      [email protected]
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on misc.legal.moderated
or
      I vote NO on misc.legal.moderated

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement
involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a
single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".

You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within
one to three days.  Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only
ACKs for undeliverable mail.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

This vote will be counted using Ron Dippold's UseVote software, version 2.*.
This vote is conducted by a member of the Usenet Volunteer Voters.

BOUNCED VOTE ACKS

Vote acknowledgements sent to the following addresses have bounced.  These
votes *have* been counted, but I have been unable to reply to their mail.
If you voted, but you have NOT received an ACK *and* your name is NOT listed
below, then your vote was probably lost somewhere in the ether.  Please
send another vote to [email protected]

Voter: [email protected]
Voter: [email protected]
Voter: [email protected]
Voter: [email protected]
Voter: [email protected]
Voter: [email protected]
Voter: [email protected]

The following people have sent malformed ballots which have not been
superceded by a Yes, No, or Abstain vote.  These people should revote.

A: [email protected]
A: [email protected]
A: [email protected]
A: [email protected]
A: [email protected]
A: [email protected]
A: [email protected]

Ed Bailey
Member, Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
-- 
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."

From [email protected] Thu Nov 11 10:23:00 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.legal,misc.legal.computing,misc.int-property,comp.patents,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.privacy
Subject: RESULT: misc.legal.moderated moderated passes 305:20
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 15:26:55 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 549
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Approved: [email protected]
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				RESULT

Moderated group misc.legal.moderated

Newsgroups line:
misc.legal.moderated    All aspects of law. (Moderated)

UseVote 2.0a Vote Count - (c) 1993 Ron Dippold

misc.legal.moderated group vote results - 325 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 305   20 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : misc.legal.moderated

Voting on misc.legal.moderated closed on November 2nd, 23:59 GMT.
348 total votes were received.  17 votes were discarded as duplicates.
6 invalid votes were not superceded.

Barring any serious irregularities in the voting process, the vote
should be newgrouped after five days.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only, contact Ed Bailey <[email protected]>.  For questions about
the proposed group, contact Bernie Cosell <[email protected]>.

Larry Kolodney <[email protected]> has volunteered to serve as the inital moderator
for misc.legal.moderated.

CHARTER and DISCUSSION
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Name: Misc.legal.moderated

Status:   Moderated. Larry Kolodney, aka [email protected], has
          volunteered to serve as initial moderator.

Charter:  Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.


misc.legal.moderated group vote Final Vote Ack


Yes Votes
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[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                              David E. Sorkin
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                  Abdul Paliwala
[email protected]                                            Adam Bonin
[email protected]                                          Nigel Allen
[email protected]                                          Adam H. Broome
[email protected]                                                     Alan Stokes
[email protected]                                                Alan L. Cassel
[email protected]                                           andrew m. boardman
[email protected]                                        Andrew Finkenstadt
[email protected]                                             Brennan T. Price
[email protected]                                             alan pfeffer
[email protected]                                        Andrew Stone
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                      Arthur Rubin
[email protected]                                          Becky Jones
[email protected]                                                    
[email protected]                                          Bob Allen
[email protected]                                                   Bruce Toor
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                           Bruce Bertram
[email protected]                                      Bill McFarlane
[email protected]                                                   Bill
[email protected]                                                  B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                          Blair Kauffman
[email protected]                                         Brian Mcdaniel
[email protected]                                                Boyd Nation
[email protected]                                        steve bradford
[email protected]                           Brendan P. McCullagh
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                              BT Group Legal Services
[email protected]                                       Laura Burchard
[email protected]                              Barry W. Chapin x2809
BWILLIAM@umiami.ir.miami.edu                                                  
C53004NB@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu                                                      
cambler@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu                                                
cbouldin@crash.cts.com                                         Charles Bouldin
CBRADLEY@umiami.ir.miami.edu                                  Caroline Bradley
cburley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca                              Craig William BURLEY
cepetit@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                                           C. E. Petit
cgw121f@CSM560.smsu.edu                                      Wickham Cameron G
charette@ERE.UMontreal.CA                                   Frederick Charette
charles@dev.prodigy.com                                      Charles R. Emmons
CHATHAM@utkvx.utk.edu                                        Richard D Chatham
childers@gab.unt.edu                                            JAMES CHILDERS
chip@chinacat.unicom.com                                        Chip Rosenthal
chuahl@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                    Chua Hak Lien
chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov                                         Charles Cilek
CIGS13@vaxa.strathclyde.ac.uk                                    Adam Gilinsky
ckk@uchicago.edu                                    Christopher K. Koenigsberg
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu                                 Chris Siebenmann
coleman@cstp.umkc.edu                                             Mike Coleman
cosell@world.std.com                                             Bernie Cosell
CREGAN@ocs1.ocs.mq.edu.au                                       Caroline Regan
csimoni@casbah.acns.nwu.edu                                       Chris Simoni
CURRIER@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu           Barry Currier, U. Florida College of Law
DABRAHAM@UMIAMIVM.IR.MIAMI.EDU                                                
David.T.Link.1@nd.edu                                                DEAN LINK
david@swarb.demon.co.uk                                        David Swarbrick
dbd@panacea.phys.utk.edu                                              Buckaroo
DBI_1TDELAAF@kub.nl                                           Toon de Laaf DBI
dbrown@ai.uga.edu                                          Daniel Brown [MSAI]
dbrown@cgs.c4.gmeds.com                                             Dave Brown
DBURK@gmuvax.gmu.edu                                               DAN L. BURK
ddb@anubis.network.com                                       David Dyer-Bennet
DDF2@cornell.edu                                                David Friedman
destro@law.cua.edu                                               Robert Destro
dfl@panix.com                                                   Danny O'Bedlam
dhesi@cirrus.com                                                   Rahul Dhesi
dnmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                           David Neal Miller
don@blkhole.resun.com                                             Don Phillips
dq@world.std.com                                             decisionquest inc
dr-dyhr@rain.com                                                   Thomas Dyhr
draack@crassus.onu.edu                                             DAVID RAACK
drears@Pica.Army.Mil                                           Dennis G. Rears
DREITMAN@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU                  Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be
dunne-bob@CS.YALE.EDU                                             Robert Dunne
dwarner@crassus.onu.edu                                           David Warner
easleast@ube.ub.umd.edu                                                       
ebweb@netcom.com                                           Eberhard E.H. Weber
eck@panix.com                                                  Mark Eckenwiler
epperson@evolve.win.net                                          Mark Epperson
epstein@watson.ibm.com                 David A. Epstein (914-784-5031 T/L 863)
erichard@medlaw.win.net                                     Edward P. Richards
erikro@jus.uio.no                                                   Erik R|s{g
faruq@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                                       Faruq abd ul-Rafi
FAW@USDCSV.ACUSD.EDU                                                          
FBUCKLEY@gmuvax.gmu.edu                                        FRANCIS BUCKLEY
FINKEND@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU                                            Nick Finke
fjmd1@cus.cam.ac.uk                                              Francis Davey
francine@lawmail.law.columbia.edu                           Francine Alfandary
franklig@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                Gregory C Franklin
Fred_Berg@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu                                    Fred Berg
froomkin@netcom.com                                                      Snoop
fuzzys@sage.cc.purdue.edu                                                Steve
fzimmerm@mail.ciesin.org                                        Fred Zimmerman
g794904@gillikin.oz.nthu.edu.tw                                  SERENDIPITOUS
GARCES@law.uoregon.edu                                              Vic Garces
gary.gott@thor.law.und.nodak.edu                                     Gary Gott
gmills@library.Berkeley.EDU                                        Grace Mills
goldberg@law.cua.edu                                             Mark Goldberg
graham@maxwell.ee.washington.edu                                  Steve Graham
greg@ideath.goldenbear.com                                        Greg Broiles
gspear+@CMU.EDU                                                 Geoffrey Spear
h.a.ritsema@bdk.rug.nl                                            Henk Ritsema
HARVEY@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU                                          James Harvey
hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu                               Robert A. Hayden
HBOADWEE@delphi.com                                                           
hm@libserver.canberra.edu.au                                      Hugh Malcolm
hollaar@ursa10.cs.utah.edu                                         Lee Hollaar
hpa@nwu.edu                                               H. Peter Anvin N9ITP
ilana@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU                                           Ilana Stern
int127y@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au                                  Brendan Quinn
jan@bagend.atl.ga.us                                                 Jan Isley
JBONINE@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU                                         John Bonine
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU                             James Alexander Chokey
JCPatric@world.std.com                                      Jonathan C Patrick
jeremy@ai.mit.edu                                         Jeremy M. Wertheimer
jfc@MIT.EDU                                                          John Carr
jgray@hcia.com                                                       John Gray
jhughes@techbook.com                                               John Hughes
JHUMBACH@genesis.Law.Pace.Edu                                  John A. Humbach
jjacobs@bsouth12.amsinc.com                                        John Jacobs
jjl@panix.com                                                     J. J. Larrea
jking@panix.com                                                       Joe King
jleonard@crassus.onu.edu                                         JAMES LEONARD
jlpicard@austin.ibm.com                                           Craig Becker
joe@decoy.uoregon.edu                                            Joe St Sauver
julie.wise@cld9.com                                                 Julie Wise
junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu                                    Peter D. Junger
kadie@eff.org                                                    Carl M. Kadie
KAOKI@law.uoregon.edu                                               Keith Aoki
kc4001@sol1.solinet.net                                  Joseph H. Orth a.k.a.
kfrazer@is.internic.net                                        Karen D. Frazer
king@reasoning.com                                                            
kmc@netcom.com                                                   Kevin McCarty
KMENTOR@SUVM.SYR.EDU                                                          
kmortens@ming.vill.edu                                       Kenneth Mortensen
knauer@ibeam.intel.com                                          Rob Knauerhase
kristina@crl.com                                                Kristina Ramos
L15D@ZFN.uni-Bremen.de                                        Martin Schr"oder
LAALBERT@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu                                              LEE
lane@DUPHY4.Physics.Drexel.Edu                                    Charles Lane
laszlo_s@postoffice.utas.edu.au                                Laszlo Schuster
laura@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                                        Laura K Koepnick
LAWADM@LIBRARY.CPL.ORG                                                        
lawbbs@legal.com                                Legal Recourse[tm], Palo Alto,
lburnet@eis.calstate.edu                                  Lynn Barkley Burnett
lcoit@netcom.com                                             Larry Coit - EPRI
lef@sytex.com                                                         Lori Fox
levin@BBN.COM                                                     Joel B Levin
ljensen@netcom.com                                                Colin Jensen
lkk@panix.com                                                   Larry Kolodney
llenn@atldbs.dbsoftware.com                                   Larry J Lennhoff
llobenhofer@crassus.onu.edu                                   LOUIS LOBENHOFER
llou@midway.uchicago.edu                                Lyonette Louis-Jacques
lmk3@Lehigh.EDU                                                Linda M. Kreitz
LOCKHART@uci.edu                                              Jack C. LOCKHART
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu                                 Lonadar the Wanderer
lrudolph@black.clarku.edu                                          Lee Rudolph
LUNDL%ULVACS.BITNET@VM.USC.EDU                                                
lvaughn@u.washington.edu                                            Lea Vaughn
Lynn.Talit@mail.trincoll.edu                                                  
LYON_JIM@tandem.com                                                           
M.Eetgerink@cc.ruu.nl                                                 eetgerin
mackaay@DROIT.UMontreal.CA                                        Ejan Mackaay
manaster@yu1.yu.edu                                             Chaim Manaster
Mandi.Haynes@law.utas.edu.au                                                  
Mark.Gould@bristol.ac.uk                                            Mark Gould
markc@citi.umich.edu                                               Mark Carter
market@mvision.com                                                MARKET LOGIN
markg@ichips.intel.com                                           Mark Gonzales
masinter@alpha.acast.nova.edu                                 Michael MASINTER
maury@turing.eecs.uic.edu                                      Maurine Neiberg
mayer@acuson.com                                                     Ron Mayer
mcdaniel@panix.com                                             Sonja McDaniels
mckenney@GAUSS.CIMS.NYU.EDU                                   Alan M. McKenney
mckenney@skyros.ma30.bull.com                               Roland F. McKenney
mcronin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                             Michael T Cronin
megatek!cjp@uunet.UU.NET                            Chris "Systems Stud" Pikus
mfreed@nwu.edu                                                     Mayer Freed
MFROOMKI@umiami.ir.miami.edu                                  Michael Froomkin
mgiangr@emx.cc.utexas.edu                                      Mark Giangrande
MIKEF@BROWNVM.brown.edu                                           Mike Fessler
mintz@hpinpcb.cup.hp.com                                             Ken Mintz
mitchell@panix.com                                               Paul Mitchell
mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu                                      Mark-Jason Dominus
mjensen@access.digex.net                                              MPJensen
mkavanaugh@BIX.com                                                            
MMIROW@UMIAMIVM.IR.MIAMI.EDU                                                  
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
mnash@ida.org                                                        Mike Nash
mnemonic@eff.org                                                   Mike Godwin
moe@netcom.com                                                   Morris Bisted
mrussell@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA                                    Moira Russell
msb@sq.com                                                                    
msh@world.std.com                                              Mark S Halperin
mughal@alumni.cco.caltech.edu                                     A. M. Mughal
MWETZLER@delphi.com                                                           
niels@lofgren.demon.co.uk                                    "Niels M. Sampath
noe@uidaho.edu                                              Christopher J. Noe
obrien@netcom.com                                    No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB
ogilvy@law.cua.edu                                                Sandy Ogilvy
parkx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu                                          Roger Park
partin@class.org                                       Dickinson School of Law
patton@panix.com                                             Stephen M. Patton
paul@poboy.b17c.ingr.com                                        Paul Robichaux
pearson@minerva.cis.yale.edu                                      John Pearson
perkins@lib.wfunet.wfu.edu                                        john perkins
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
pjs@uwasa.fi                                                 Peik J Stromsholm
pl0124@psilink.com                                           Steven C. Perkins
Poh.York.Lee@lib.monash.edu.au                                                
PONEIL@genesis.Law.Pace.Edu                                                   
poulind@DROIT.UMontreal.CA                                       Daniel Poulin
power@access.digex.net                                              Bill Watts
PRYLUCK@VM.TEMPLE.EDU                                                      Cal
psoreide@class.org                                                      Gibson
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
raicu@netcom.com                                                   Eugen Raicu
rand@seq1.loc.gov                                          Richard A. Anderson
rc@xis.xerox.com                                              Robert Cooperman
rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu                                            Mr. Nice Guy
rdumas@MIT.EDU                                                     Robin Dumas
REISCHER@HULAW1.HARVARD.EDU                                   BRIDGET REISCHER
renevitz@library.sdsu.edu                                         Lou Renevitz
revu@midway.uchicago.edu                        Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri
rfriedla@brynmawr.edu                                                         
RGLAZIER@delphi.com                                                           
Richard_Blumberg@pol.com                                                      
richmond@atria.com                                               Mark Richmond
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rjk@telcomlaw.win.net                                         Robert J. Keller
rlcarr@animato.network23.com                                     Rich Carreiro
RPARLIN@umiami.ir.miami.edu                                                   
rpritz@mindvox.phantom.com                                       Richard Pritz
rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu                                                  RRB
RROSEN@UMIAMIVM.IR.MIAMI.EDU                                                  
rshvern@mason1.gmu.edu                                                       .
rsolomon@merle.acns.nwu.edu                                  Rayman L. Solomon
rufinus@vsuw03.cern.ch                     JEFFREY RUFINUS, U.WISCONSIN - CERN
ryanl@alm.admin.usfca.edu                                             Lee Ryan
safdas@moose.is.gs.com                                       Shabbir J. Safdar
Salter@world.std.com                                            Sarah W Salter
sasbmt@unx.sas.com                                               Bruce Tindall
sbarber@panix.com                                                 Steve Barber
sce1001@cus.cam.ac.uk                                               S.C. Evans
scheid@copland.jpl.nasa.gov                                         Bob Scheid
schorsch@plains.NoDak.edu                                        Bart Schorsch
sderby@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                                 Stuart P. Derby
seh@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                            
sethb@panix.com                                                 Seth Breidbart
sethg@bronze.lcs.mit.edu                                           Seth Gordon
sherry@maroon.tc.umn.edu                                        Suzanna Sherry
shostrom@alm.admin.usfca.edu                                   Marian Shostrom
simon@socs.uts.EDU.AU                                            Simon Klassen
simona@panix.com                                                   Simona Nass
SKELLER@umiami.ir.miami.edu                                      SHARON KELLER
SKLEIN@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu                                           Sandra Klein
slaw@epas.utoronto.ca                                              Stephen Law
SM0864%SPRINGB.bitnet@vm42.cso.uiuc.edu                             John Woods
smccabe@ecn.purdue.edu                                          Sarah A McCabe
SPILLENG@125law1.law.ucla.edu                                 clyde spillenger
stack@informix.com                                             Bill Stackhouse
stc@panix.com                                                    steven cherry
stephen.nicoud@boeing.com                                     Stephen L Nicoud
Steve.Dever@Eng.Sun.COM                                            Steve Dever
steven.guralnick@toadhall.com                                 Steven Guralnick
Styliano@world.std.com                                        Thomas Stylianos
swh10@central-unix-service.cambridge.ac.uk                         S.W. Hedley
syvinski@badlands.NoDak.edu                                      The RushClone
SZORN@genesis.Law.Pace.Edu                                          Steve Zorn
tammyt@sco.COM                                                    tammy taylor
TAT@yvax.byu.edu                                                              
tdc@world.std.com                                              Terry D Condren
tfalk@umich.edu                                                   Tatiana Falk
thf2@midway.uchicago.edu                                             Ted Frank
THOMASG@maroon.tc.umn.edu                                      Thomas D.Gasser
thssno@iitmax.acc.iit.edu                                        Neil R. Ormos
tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com                                        Terry Carroll
tjc@acsu.buffalo.edu                                       Thomas J. Corsalini
tomb@bedford.progress.COM                                        Tom Barringer
tschmeli@skidmore.EDU                                                         
tww@beach.cis.ufl.edu                                        Thompkins W White
U15289%UICVM@UIC.EDU                                          Mitch Pravatiner
VTHOMAS@UMIAMIVM.IR.MIAMI.EDU                                                 
WALTERP@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu                                                   
was2@midway.uchicago.edu                                         Bill Schwesig
wass@access.digex.net                                        Michael Wasserman
wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu                                     David Lesher
wbridge@sun.cis.smu.edu                                      William J. Bridge
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de                                                          
weeksl@palm.cray.com                                               Larry Weeks
wheeler@ipl.rpi.edu                                          Frederick Wheeler
wrightr@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu                                           ron wright
yadallee@galcon.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
YBMCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU                                                Ben Yalow
YJONES@umiami.ir.miami.edu                                                    
ZAD@FACULTY.LAW.DUKE.EDU                                           Dick Danner
zierdt@badlands.NoDak.edu                                       Candace Zierdt

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brown@quorum.com                                               Robert E. Brown
cheah@cs.columbia.edu                                            Po Shan Cheah
COLIN@themis.law.warwick.ac.uk                                      Colin Shaw
dcameron@gssec.bt.co.uk                                          David Cameron
deand@lore.kla.com                                        Dean Dierschow x6528
dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu                                                        
don@biivax.dp.BECKMAN.COM                                          Don Roberts
eab@msc.edu                                                     Edward Bertsch
jer@cs.amherst.edu                                                  John Rager
jlodman@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU                                          Michael Lodman
johnl%forthd.UUCP@espace.rain.com                                  John Lebert
julian@bongo.tele.com                                          Julian Macassey
leroy@expert.cc.purdue.edu                                               Leroy
nelsoal@anubis.network.com                                      Alan L. Nelson
nick@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca                                     Nick Fitzpatrick
scottk@utig.ig.utexas.edu                                          Scott Kempf
smarry@io.org                                               Smarasderagd Draco
Timo.Rinne@hut.fi                                                   Timo Rinne
tkoppel@diana.cair.du.edu                               The Great and Powerful
woody@bdrc.bd.com                                                 Woody Muller


Votes in error
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0005402089@mcimail.com                                           Scott Mauvais
   ! No votes
maus@fid.morgan.com                                             Malcolm Austin
   ! No votes
shalpern@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                          Sheldon W. Halpern
   ! No votes
stmons00@mik.uky.edu                                           stephen monsour
   ! No votes
tearle@vax.ox.ac.uk                                             BARBARA TEARLE
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wellsv@Sonoma.EDU                                                             
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