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From [email protected] Fri Feb  4 16:10:55 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ian Phillipps)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: RFD: misc.test.moderated moderated
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Date: 1 Feb 1994 16:05:46 -0500
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This is a request for discussion for a new Usenet newsgroup,
misc.test.moderated.

The objective of this newsgroup is to allow the testing of posting to a
moderated group, without the need to impose on the goodwill of existing
moderators.

The group is to be moderated.

Voting

A Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued later in the same newsgroups as
this posting.  This is not the time to send in votes.

Rationale

The existing group misc.test allows news system administrators to test
propogation from their site, and a number of sites will auto-reply to
messages on this group.  However, there is currently no way for a news
administrator to test the mechanism for posting to moderated groups
without actually doing so.

This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places for
discussion of news software configuration and problems.

The moderation policy will be one or both of:

(A) Successful postings will be greeted by a reply, in email,
    indicating that the posting was a success, or pointing out problems
    in the headers as appropriate. No articles will actually appear on
    the group from the moderator, except for bounces as detailed
    below.  Any postings that do, in fact, appear, will be replied to
    indicating that there is a fault with their news software.
    Postings whose reply addresses are ineffective will be advertised
    on the group.

(B) Successful postings will be approved and posted in the normal way,
    but with the body of the message replaced by a text indicating
    success, and the purpose of the group.  Postings not approved by
    the moderator will be cancelled, and the originators emailed.

I shall select one of these for the Call for Votes, depending on the
consensus of the discussion.

The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <[email protected]> list
of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites advertising
that they forward moderators' mail. This list already includes
pipex.net.

It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group, should policy (B) be adopted.
It is hoped that the writers of news transport and reading software
will draw the attention of news administrators to this group.

I am prepared to act as moderator; if approved, I intend to delegate
the job to an automaton as soon as possible.

Ian


From [email protected] Tue Feb 15 11:06:12 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ian Phillipps)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.test.moderated moderated
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Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:45:11 -0500
Organization: PIPEX Ltd, Cambridge, UK.
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References: <[email protected]>
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4621 news.groups:95474 news.admin.technical:509 news.software.b:15626

This is a request for discussion for a new Usenet newsgroup,
misc.test.moderated.

The objective of this newsgroup is to allow the testing of posting to a
moderated group, without the need to impose on the goodwill of existing
moderators.

The group is to be moderated.

Voting

A Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued later in the same newsgroups as
this posting.  This is not the time to send in votes.

Rationale

The existing group misc.test allows news system administrators to test
propogation from their site, and a number of sites will auto-reply to
messages on this group.  However, there is currently no way for a news
administrator to test the mechanism for posting to moderated groups
without actually doing so.

This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places for
discussion of news software configuration and problems.

The moderation policy will be one or both of:

(A) Successful postings will be greeted by a reply, in email,
    indicating that the posting was a success, or pointing out problems
    in the headers as appropriate. No articles will actually appear on
    the group from the moderator, except for bounces as detailed
    below.  Any postings that do, in fact, appear, will be replied to
    indicating that there is a fault with their news software.
    Postings whose reply addresses are ineffective will be advertised
    on the group.

(B) Successful postings will be approved and posted in the normal way,
    but with the body of the message replaced by a text indicating
    success, and the purpose of the group.  Postings not approved by
    the moderator will be cancelled, and the originators emailed.

I shall select one of these for the Call for Votes, depending on the
consensus of the discussion.

The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <[email protected]> list
of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites advertising
that they forward moderators' mail. This list already includes
pipex.net.

It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group, should policy (B) be adopted.
It is hoped that the writers of news transport and reading software
will draw the attention of news administrators to this group.

I am prepared to act as moderator; if approved, I intend to delegate
the job to an automaton as soon as possible.

Ian

From [email protected] Wed Feb 23 15:07:06 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: CFV: misc.test.moderated moderated
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 22 Feb 1994 23:06:37 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Expires: 17 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 
Moderated group misc.test.moderated
 
Newsgroups line:
misc.test.moderated	Testing of posting to moderated groups (moderated)

Votes must be received by 16 March 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed group, contact Ian Phillipps <[email protected]>.


MODERATOR

Ian Phillipps <[email protected]>
Submission Address:  [email protected]


CHARTER

The group misc.test.moderated complements misc.test, by providing a
way for news administrators to test the mechanism for posting to
moderated groups. The group will be moderated.

This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places
for discussion of news software configuration and problems.

Postings received by the moderator will be replied to by email,
indicating success or reasons for failure. Postings received
without a valid return email address will be advertised on the
group so that the site concerned may learn of their configuration
problem. Testing of news reception is not a function of this group,
so there is no need to send successfully-posted articles to all of
the Usenet.

There will be a regular posting to the group by the moderator
explaining its purpose.

The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <[email protected]>
list of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites
advertising that they forward moderators' mail. These sites are
listed in the regular posting "How to Construct the Mailpaths File"
posted to news.admin.misc and news.lists.

It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group.  It is hoped that the writers of news
transport and reading software will draw the attention of news
administrators to this group.

The moderator will be [email protected] (Ian Phillipps), who may
discharge his duties using an automatic reply system.  The
submission address for the group will be [email protected]


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.test.moderated
      I vote NO on misc.test.moderated

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

The second CFV will include a list of those whose email acknowledgement
bounced.
-- 
Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])

From [email protected] Wed Mar  9 23:43:52 1994
Sender: [email protected]
Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:06:30 -0500
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Followup-To: poster
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.test.moderated moderated
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]><[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
Expires: 17 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 
Moderated group misc.test.moderated
 
Newsgroups line:
misc.test.moderated	Testing of posting to moderated groups (moderated)

Votes must be received by 16 March 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed group, contact Ian Phillipps <[email protected]>.


MODERATOR

Ian Phillipps <[email protected]>
Submission Address:  [email protected]


CHARTER

The group misc.test.moderated complements misc.test, by providing a
way for news administrators to test the mechanism for posting to
moderated groups. The group will be moderated.

This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places
for discussion of news software configuration and problems.

Postings received by the moderator will be replied to by email,
indicating success or reasons for failure. Postings received
without a valid return email address will be advertised on the
group so that the site concerned may learn of their configuration
problem. Testing of news reception is not a function of this group,
so there is no need to send successfully-posted articles to all of
the Usenet.

There will be a regular posting to the group by the moderator
explaining its purpose.

The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <[email protected]>
list of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites
advertising that they forward moderators' mail. These sites are
listed in the regular posting "How to Construct the Mailpaths File"
posted to news.admin.misc and news.lists.

It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group.  It is hoped that the writers of news
transport and reading software will draw the attention of news
administrators to this group.

The moderator will be [email protected] (Ian Phillipps), who may
discharge his duties using an automatic reply system.  The
submission address for the group will be [email protected]


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.test.moderated
      I vote NO on misc.test.moderated

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

Email acknowledgements (as of 2 Mar 1994) to the following people bounced:
--- NONE ---
-- 
Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])

From [email protected] Tue Mar 22 20:14:52 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: RESULT: misc.test.moderated moderated passes 123:12
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 17 Mar 1994 15:54:09 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]><[email protected]>
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                               RESULT
 
              moderated group misc.test.moderated passes 123:12
 
There were 123 YES votes and 12 NO votes, for a total of 135 valid votes. 
There were 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 16 Mar 1994.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  

Vote-taker's address:		[email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Group proponent's address:	[email protected] (Ian Phillipps)

Newsgroups line:
misc.test.moderated	Testing of posting to moderated groups (moderated)

MODERATOR

Ian Phillipps <[email protected]>
Submission Address:  [email protected]


CHARTER

The group misc.test.moderated complements misc.test, by providing a
way for news administrators to test the mechanism for posting to
moderated groups. The group will be moderated.

This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places
for discussion of news software configuration and problems.

Postings received by the moderator will be replied to by email,
indicating success or reasons for failure. Postings received
without a valid return email address will be advertised on the
group so that the site concerned may learn of their configuration
problem. Testing of news reception is not a function of this group,
so there is no need to send successfully-posted articles to all of
the Usenet.

There will be a regular posting to the group by the moderator
explaining its purpose.

The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <[email protected]>
list of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites
advertising that they forward moderators' mail. These sites are
listed in the regular posting "How to Construct the Mailpaths File"
posted to news.admin.misc and news.lists.

It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group.  It is hoped that the writers of news
transport and reading software will draw the attention of news
administrators to this group.

The moderator will be [email protected] (Ian Phillipps), who may
discharge his duties using an automatic reply system.  The
submission address for the group will be [email protected]


VOTE ACK

***** Please don't use this voting list to generate a mailing list (neither the
yes or no votes) -- voters are not necessarily interested in the topic *****

moderated group misc.test.moderated Final Vote Ack


Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                                           
[email protected]                      JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA
[email protected]                                            Alan Thew
[email protected]                                        Alan Coopersmith
[email protected]                                    Andras Salamon
[email protected]                                                 Andy Latto
[email protected]                                           Anne Bennett
[email protected]                                   Arthur Chance
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                      Arthur Rubin
[email protected]                                                    David Barr
[email protected]                                    Dale Bennett
[email protected]                                                  B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                                BOB RAY
[email protected]                                                       
[email protected]                                     Aliza R. Panitz
[email protected]                                           Caroline Blackmun
[email protected]                                        Craig Garnett
[email protected]                                 Chuck Harding x2435
[email protected]                                     Christopher Samuel
[email protected]                                                  Christopher Davis
[email protected]                                               Pope Clifton
[email protected]                                                 Ofer Inbar
[email protected]                                      Paul Ferroni
[email protected]                                          Ian Dickinson
[email protected]                                                 Dale A. Smoak
[email protected]                                    Daniel Hannigan
[email protected]                                                   Dan Sachs
[email protected]                                                 Bill Davidsen
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                            David B Funk
[email protected]                                                     Dan Murphy
[email protected]                                    Bertrand Petit
[email protected]                                            Frank Kaefer
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                  Francis A Uy
[email protected]                                     Galibert Olivier
[email protected]                                               
[email protected]                             Ms. Geetanjali Sampemane
[email protected]                                Hans de Graaff
[email protected]                                       David Grabiner
[email protected]                                     Gregor Herrmann
[email protected]                          Patrick J. P. Griffin
[email protected]                                               Klaus
[email protected]                                         Helen C. O'Boyle
[email protected]                                        Helen T. Rose Davis
[email protected]                                                              ian
[email protected]                                                     Ido Dubrawsky
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                                 Jan Isley
[email protected]                                           Jim Reed
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                               Jeff Epler
[email protected]                                         Jonathan I. Kamens
[email protected]                                                 Jim Jewett
[email protected]                                            Jerome Schneider
[email protected]                                           Jay Maynard
[email protected]                                                   John Line
[email protected]                                              John Adams
[email protected]                                       J. Porter Clark
[email protected]                                                       Jim Atkinson
[email protected]                                                    Jon Thackray
[email protected]                                                    
[email protected]                                                 Jon Bell
[email protected]                                                 Karl A. Nyberg
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                 Wesley Kranitz  x7-4409
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                       Richard Maine
[email protected]                                       Malcolm Butler
[email protected]                                            Marc A Dashevsky
[email protected]                                                               maus
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                          Malcolm Mladenovic
[email protected]                                                        Clark
[email protected]                                  Michael Froomkin
[email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                            Milton D. Miller II
[email protected]                                          
[email protected]                                          Michael J Kovacs
[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                         Murali Chaparala
[email protected]                                                     Neil Wilson
[email protected]                                           David A. Nevel
[email protected]                                               Nick Simicich
[email protected]                                   Norbert Hoffmann
[email protected]                             Ole Svendsen
[email protected]                                      Peter Sullivan
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn
[email protected]                 Robert Elton Maas, 21 years experience programming
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                         [email protected], "Jr.
[email protected]                                        Gina Bull
[email protected]                                               Rob Bradshaw
[email protected]                                  Robert Macfarlane
[email protected]                                            Rob May
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                             Russell Schulz
[email protected]                                               
[email protected]                                  Stefan Chakerian
[email protected]                                         Edmund Schweppe
[email protected]                                             Scott Stevens
[email protected]                                        Lynda L. True
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                        Sascha Wildner
[email protected]                                                   Todd D. Taft
[email protected]                             Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr
[email protected]                                                     Tom Cross
[email protected]                                 Tomasz Surmacz
[email protected]                                                Urban Fredriksson
[email protected]                                        Matthias Urlichs
[email protected]                                                   
[email protected]                                            Jason Verch
walra%[email protected]                                              Waldi Ravens
[email protected]                                                     Wilhelm Buehler
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                   
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                 Danny Yarbrough
[email protected]                                               Judy Anderson

Voted No
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/R=TNTVAX/R=MRGATE/U=SPB/FFN=SPB/@mr.ntrs.com                                 
[email protected]                                             Andrew Tellez
[email protected]                                    Brian SPENCER
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                           Matt Hucke
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                 Lonadar the Wanderer
[email protected]                                        Steven Noyd Jones
[email protected]                                       Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                Sridhar Venkataraman
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                       Alexander Meins
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                     
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                           John Phillips
   ! Invalid address

-- 
Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])

 
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