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From [email protected] Wed Jan 12 20:19:19 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: jfurr[email protected] (Joel Furr) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.misc,news.admin.misc Subject: RFD: news.reviews moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 Jan 1994 22:45:53 -0500 Organization: Visit fabulous (EVIL!)Mud at cyber1.gate.net 4201! Lines: 15 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Keywords: wolf, boy who cried, difficulty in being taken seriously Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4453 news.groups:91608 news.misc:11034 news.admin.misc:6886  I hereby propose a new newsgroup to be called news.reviews or something  similar.  Here's my explanation:  It can be pretty hard, even for a moderately experienced net-news reader,  to find interesting newsgroups.  Sure, if you're interested in a specific  subject, you search for keywords, but how are you just going to stumble  across an interesting chat group when there're so many?  I propose that  we add a group for *reviews* of newsgroups, moderated of course, so that  people who think they've found a quality newsgroup can post a  full-fledged review... just like the movie reviews group and the Star  Trek reviews group: roadmaps to what's out there.  I realize that I of all people have next to no chance of being taken  seriously on this but, for those who care, this time I actually am  serious and would like to see a moderated news.reviews come into being.  From [email protected] Tue Feb  8 11:42:30 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jim Jewett <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.policy,news.admin.misc,news.misc,news.newusers.questions,news.future,alt.culture.usenet Subject: 2nd RFD: news.groups.reviews moderated, news.groups.questions Followup-To: news.groups Date: 7 Feb 1994 15:47:07 -0500 Organization: umich.edu Lines: 124 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4587 news.groups:94656 news.admin.policy:9816 news.admin.misc:7677 news.misc:11343 news.newusers.questions:24055 news.future:3858 alt.culture.usenet:3083  Charters of news.groups.reviews and news.groups.questions:  The unmoderated group news.groups.questions is an appropriate  place to ask (and answer) questions about newsgroups, such as which topics are discussed where, and how to start, find or create groups or mailing lists for specific interests.  The moderated group news.groups.reviews features reviews of  other newsgroups.  These need not be prompted by a question in the questions group.  The intention is simply to help people  find interesting newsgroups -- even those that they would not  have thought to ask about.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------  These groups are the result of discussion of news.reviews. The proposed moderator is Jim Jewett. ([email protected])  Why create these groups at all?  Many little-known yet worthwhile newsgroups and mailing lists languish on the Net.  Short of annoying postings to dozens of newsgroups in an attempt to contact potential readers, there's no way to reach people with word of interesting groups you've found.  Meanwhile, potential readers moan about the lack of interesting (or at least funny) groups because they don't know where to find them.  Helping people find useful groups and funny groups and so forth is a worthwhile purpose.  The charter (above) will be posted monthly, along with the  submission guidelines below.  The discussion will continue in news.groups for a short while; then the call for votes will be posted.  If you have suggestions, it would therefore be wise to make them quickly.  ---------------------------------------------------------------  Because many readers may still be new to netnews, it is important to keep the volume of the group relatively low.  One post per day would be acceptable, and forty per week should be a maximum.  Given these guidelines, it may become necessary to delay or even reject some  reviews.  If you would like your review published, please follow these suggestions:  Reviews should be written by people who read and enjoy the group in question.  If the reviewed group isn't worth reading, then ignorance is indeed bliss.  Reviews should be one-time things.  In a year, it might be worth reviewing again, but the group shouldn't change very much in a week.  I will accept alternate reviews from different reviewers, if they are substantially different, but I would prefer to review another as-yet-unreviewed group.  news.groups.reviews will not be a discussion forum, so it may be worth running your review by other readers first -- particularly if it is a second review.  Questions about "Where can I find a group about X?" should be sent to news.groups.questions.  Discussion of the review should normally take place in the reviewed group itself.  As these types of  followups are very different, followup will usually be set to poster.  Anything that shows up in the submission mailbox is fair game for posting to either news.groups.reviews or the unmoderated news.groups.questions.  I will make an effort to ensure that I'm sending it to the right place -- usually, by replying to the submission.  Reviews of (publicly accessible) mailing lists are fine, but interested readers are also directed to the short summaries available elsewhere.  If you would like one of these list of lists, Stephanie da Silva, [email protected] posts one to news.lists.  If it has expired on your site, you can get it by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu from /pub/usenet/news.lists/P_A_M_L,_P_*_8 where * represents each of the numbers 1 through 8.  [I am willing to add pointers to other lists of lists, if someone gives me step-by-step instructions for getting them.]  In your review, please try to express the flavor of the group as a whole.  Ideally, this will involve summarizing some recent threads,  so that potential readers will have an example as well as a description.  Reviews need not be restricted to the big 7 -- if the group widely  available (eg, bionet, or eunet) that is sufficient.  Reviewed mailing  lists should be open to all readers without restriction.   Here is a sample review, written by Vance Kochenderfer. Note that the Description: line is copied straight from /usr/lib/news/newsgroups, and the FAQ-Location: line is  in URL format.  While not mandatory, this is certainly encouraged.  --------------------  Newsgroup: alt.folklore.urban Moderator: none Description: Urban legends, ala Jan Harold Brunvand Keywords: urban legends, rumors, craig shergold Related-Groups: alt.folklore.info,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.college, 	alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.military,alt.folklore.science FAQ-Location: file://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq Reviewer: Vance Kochenderfer [email protected] Review-Date: 1 Jan 94  Have you ever wondered about that dying boy in England who wants get-well cards?  Or about lick-and-stick tattoos laced with LSD?  Or about all of those soda can tabs you've been donating for kidney patients?  Read a.f.u and wonder no more.  This group is dedicated to discussing and often debunking pervasive rumors and half-truths known collectively as urban legends.  Humorous and informative, the group also talks about the works of urban legend researchers such as Cecil Adams and Jan Harold Brunvand. Posters often ask innocuous-looking questions in order to bait newbies, so followup with care and read the FAQ list before posting; it is very wide- ranging and will answer most of your questions.  ========= Mail questions and comments about this review to the reviewer, or post them to alt.folklore.urban. Ask about other groups in news.groups.questions. Mail questions and comments about news.groups.reviews to  [email protected] Submit reviews to [email protected]  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Feb 17 18:54:26 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.policy,news.admin.misc,news.misc,news.newusers.questions,news.future,alt.culture.usenet,alt.culture.internet,alt.best.of.internet Subject: CFV: news.groups.reviews moderated, news.groups.questions Followup-To: poster Date: 17 Feb 1994 14:50:03 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 169 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4645 news.groups:95795 news.admin.policy:10157 news.admin.misc:7820 news.misc:11421 news.newusers.questions:24630 news.future:3993 alt.culture.usenet:3265 alt.culture.internet:1649 alt.best.of.internet:2052  		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                unmoderated group news.groups.questions                  moderated group news.groups.reviews  Newsgroups lines: news.groups.reviews	What is going on in group or mailing list topic X? news.groups.questions	Where can I find talk about topic X?  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 March 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Jim Jewett <[email protected]>.  (Voting information is at the bottom of this post).  CHARTER  The unmoderated group news.groups.questions is an appropriate place to ask (and answer) questions about newsgroups, such as which topics are discussed where, and how to start, find or create groups or mailing lists for specific interests.  The moderated group news.groups.reviews features reviews of other newsgroups.  These need not be prompted by a question in the questions group.  The intention is simply to help people find interesting newsgroups -- even those that they would not have thought to ask about.  These groups are the result of discussion of news.reviews.  The proposed moderator for news.groups.reviews is Jim Jewett <[email protected]>.  Why create these groups at all?  Many little-known yet worthwhile newsgroups and mailing lists languish on the Net.  Short of annoying postings to dozens of newsgroups in an attempt to contact potential readers, there's no way to reach people with word of interesting groups you've found.  Meanwhile, potential readers moan about the lack of interesting (or at least funny) groups because they don't know where to find them.  Helping people find useful groups and funny groups and so forth is a worthwhile purpose.  The charter (above) will be posted monthly, along with the  submission guidelines below.  ---------------------------------------------------------------  Because many readers may still be new to netnews, it is important to keep the volume of the group relatively low.  One post per day would be acceptable, and forty per week should be a maximum.  Given these guidelines, it may become necessary to delay or even reject some reviews.  If you would like your review published quickly, please follow these suggestions:  Reviews should be written by people who read and enjoy the group in question.  If the reviewed group isn't worth reading, then ignorance is indeed bliss.  Reviews should be one-time things.  In a year, it might be worth reviewing again, but the group shouldn't change very much in a week.  I will accept alternate reviews from different reviewers, if they are substantially different, but I would prefer to review another as-yet-unreviewed group.  news.groups.reviews will not be a discussion forum, so it may be worth running your review by other readers first -- particularly if it is a second review.  Questions about "Where can I find a group about X?" should be sent to news.groups.questions.  Discussion of the review should normally take place in the reviewed group itself.  As these types of followups are very different, followup will usually be set to poster.  Anything that shows up in the submission mailbox is fair game for posting to either news.groups.reviews or the unmoderated news.groups.questions.  I will make an effort to ensure that I'm sending it to the right place -- usually, by replying to the submission.  Reviews of (publicly accessible) mailing lists are fine, but interested readers are also directed to the short summaries available elsewhere.  If you would like one of these lists of lists, Stephanie da Silva, [email protected] posts one to news.lists.  If it has expired on your site, you can get it by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu >from /pub/usenet/news.lists/P_A_M_L,_P_*_8 where * represents each of the numbers 1 through 8.  [I am willing to add pointers to other lists of lists, if someone gives me step-by-step instructions for getting them.]  In your review, please try to express the flavor of the group as a whole.  Ideally, this will involve summarizing some recent threads, so that potential readers will have an example as well as a description.  Reviews need not be restricted to the big 7 -- if the group is widely available (eg, bionet, or eunet) that is sufficient.  Reviewed mailing lists should be open to all readers without restriction.  Here is a sample review, written by Vance Kochenderfer. Note that the Description: line is copied straight from /usr/lib/news/newsgroups, and the FAQ-Location: line is  in URL format.  While not mandatory, this is certainly encouraged.  --------------------  Newsgroup: alt.folklore.urban Moderator: none Description: Urban legends, ala Jan Harold Brunvand Keywords: urban legends, rumors, craig shergold Related-Groups: alt.folklore.info,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.college, 	alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.military,alt.folklore.science FAQ-Location: file://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq Reviewer: Vance Kochenderfer [email protected] Review-Date: 1 Jan 94  Have you ever wondered about that dying boy in England who wants get-well cards?  Or about lick-and-stick tattoos laced with LSD?  Or about all of those soda can tabs you've been donating for kidney patients?  Read a.f.u and wonder no more.  This group is dedicated to discussing and often debunking pervasive rumors and half-truths known collectively as urban legends.  Humorous and informative, the group also talks about the works of urban legend researchers such as Cecil Adams and Jan Harold Brunvand. Posters often ask innocuous-looking questions in order to bait newbies, so followup with care and read the FAQ list before posting; it is very wide- ranging and will answer most of your questions.  ========= Mail questions and comments about this review to the reviewer, or post them to alt.folklore.urban. Ask about other groups in news.groups.questions. Mail questions and comments about news.groups.reviews to [email protected] Submit reviews to [email protected]  --------------------------------------------------------------------  HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names.  Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then mail the ballot to:    [email protected] Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- news.groups additions Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here:  [Your Vote]  Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]  news.groups.questions [         ]  news.groups.reviews (moderated) -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Feb 24 17:56:13 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.policy,news.admin.misc,news.misc,news.newusers.questions,news.future,alt.culture.usenet,alt.culture.internet,alt.best.of.internet Subject: 2nd CFV: news.groups.reviews moderated, news.groups.questions Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 24 Feb 1994 16:07:09 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 177 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4685 news.groups:96507 news.admin.policy:10392 news.admin.misc:7896 news.misc:11494 news.newusers.questions:25039 news.future:4108 alt.culture.usenet:3397 alt.culture.internet:1675 alt.best.of.internet:2172                       LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                unmoderated group news.groups.questions                  moderated group news.groups.reviews  Newsgroups lines: news.groups.reviews	What is going on in group or mailing list topic X? news.groups.questions	Where can I find talk about topic X?  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 March 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Jim Jewett <[email protected]>.  (Voting information is at the bottom of this post).  CHARTER  The unmoderated group news.groups.questions is an appropriate place to ask (and answer) questions about newsgroups, such as which topics are discussed where, and how to start, find or create groups or mailing lists for specific interests.  The moderated group news.groups.reviews features reviews of other newsgroups.  These need not be prompted by a question in the questions group.  The intention is simply to help people find interesting newsgroups -- even those that they would not have thought to ask about.  These groups are the result of discussion of news.reviews.  The proposed moderator for news.groups.reviews is Jim Jewett <[email protected]>.  Why create these groups at all?  Many little-known yet worthwhile newsgroups and mailing lists languish on the Net.  Short of annoying postings to dozens of newsgroups in an attempt to contact potential readers, there's no way to reach people with word of interesting groups you've found.  Meanwhile, potential readers moan about the lack of interesting (or at least funny) groups because they don't know where to find them.  Helping people find useful groups and funny groups and so forth is a worthwhile purpose.  The charter (above) will be posted monthly, along with the  submission guidelines below.  ---------------------------------------------------------------  Because many readers may still be new to netnews, it is important to keep the volume of the group relatively low.  One post per day would be acceptable, and forty per week should be a maximum.  Given these guidelines, it may become necessary to delay or even reject some reviews.  If you would like your review published quickly, please follow these suggestions:  Reviews should be written by people who read and enjoy the group in question.  If the reviewed group isn't worth reading, then ignorance is indeed bliss.  Reviews should be one-time things.  In a year, it might be worth reviewing again, but the group shouldn't change very much in a week.  I will accept alternate reviews from different reviewers, if they are substantially different, but I would prefer to review another as-yet-unreviewed group.  news.groups.reviews will not be a discussion forum, so it may be worth running your review by other readers first -- particularly if it is a second review.  Questions about "Where can I find a group about X?" should be sent to news.groups.questions.  Discussion of the review should normally take place in the reviewed group itself.  As these types of followups are very different, followup will usually be set to poster.  Anything that shows up in the submission mailbox is fair game for posting to either news.groups.reviews or the unmoderated news.groups.questions.  I will make an effort to ensure that I'm sending it to the right place -- usually, by replying to the submission.  Reviews of (publicly accessible) mailing lists are fine, but interested readers are also directed to the short summaries available elsewhere.  If you would like one of these lists of lists, Stephanie da Silva, [email protected] posts one to news.lists.  If it has expired on your site, you can get it by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu >from /pub/usenet/news.lists/P_A_M_L,_P_*_8 where * represents each of the numbers 1 through 8.  [I am willing to add pointers to other lists of lists, if someone gives me step-by-step instructions for getting them.]  In your review, please try to express the flavor of the group as a whole.  Ideally, this will involve summarizing some recent threads, so that potential readers will have an example as well as a description.  Reviews need not be restricted to the big 7 -- if the group is widely available (eg, bionet, or eunet) that is sufficient.  Reviewed mailing lists should be open to all readers without restriction.  Here is a sample review, written by Vance Kochenderfer. Note that the Description: line is copied straight from /usr/lib/news/newsgroups, and the FAQ-Location: line is  in URL format.  While not mandatory, this is certainly encouraged.  --------------------  Newsgroup: alt.folklore.urban Moderator: none Description: Urban legends, ala Jan Harold Brunvand Keywords: urban legends, rumors, craig shergold Related-Groups: alt.folklore.info,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.college, 	alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.military,alt.folklore.science FAQ-Location: file://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq Reviewer: Vance Kochenderfer [email protected] Review-Date: 1 Jan 94  Have you ever wondered about that dying boy in England who wants get-well cards?  Or about lick-and-stick tattoos laced with LSD?  Or about all of those soda can tabs you've been donating for kidney patients?  Read a.f.u and wonder no more.  This group is dedicated to discussing and often debunking pervasive rumors and half-truths known collectively as urban legends.  Humorous and informative, the group also talks about the works of urban legend researchers such as Cecil Adams and Jan Harold Brunvand. Posters often ask innocuous-looking questions in order to bait newbies, so followup with care and read the FAQ list before posting; it is very wide- ranging and will answer most of your questions.  ========= Mail questions and comments about this review to the reviewer, or post them to alt.folklore.urban. Ask about other groups in news.groups.questions. Mail questions and comments about news.groups.reviews to [email protected] Submit reviews to [email protected]  --------------------------------------------------------------------  HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names.  Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then mail the ballot to:    [email protected] Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- news.groups additions Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here:  [Your Vote]  Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]  news.groups.questions [         ]  news.groups.reviews (moderated) -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.    news.groups additions Bounce Ack List - no need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Mar 22 20:11:12 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.policy,news.admin.misc,news.misc,news.newusers.questions,news.future,alt.culture.usenet,alt.culture.internet,alt.best.of.internet Subject: RESULT: news.groups.{questions,reviews} pass {227:29,224:35} Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Mar 1994 19:05:07 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 405 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]><[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4779 news.groups:98264 news.admin.policy:10918 news.admin.misc:8344 news.misc:11565 news.newusers.questions:26083 news.future:4162 alt.culture.usenet:3499 alt.culture.internet:1764 alt.best.of.internet:2883                                 RESULT  news.groups additions results - 263 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  227   29 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : news.groups.questions  224   35 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : news.groups.reviews (moderated)    3 invalid votes   Newsgroups lines: news.groups.reviews	What is going on in group or mailing list topic X? news.groups.questions	Where can I find talk about topic X?  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Jim Jewett <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  The unmoderated group news.groups.questions is an appropriate place to ask (and answer) questions about newsgroups, such as which topics are discussed where, and how to start, find or create groups or mailing lists for specific interests.  The moderated group news.groups.reviews features reviews of other newsgroups.  These need not be prompted by a question in the questions group.  The intention is simply to help people find interesting newsgroups -- even those that they would not have thought to ask about.  These groups are the result of discussion of news.reviews.  The proposed moderator for news.groups.reviews is Jim Jewett <[email protected]>.  The charter (above) will be posted monthly, along with the  submission guidelines below.  ---------------------------------------------------------------  Because many readers may still be new to netnews, it is important to keep the volume of the group relatively low.  One post per day would be acceptable, and forty per week should be a maximum.  Given these guidelines, it may become necessary to delay or even reject some reviews.  If you would like your review published quickly, please follow these suggestions:  Reviews should be written by people who read and enjoy the group in question.  If the reviewed group isn't worth reading, then ignorance is indeed bliss.  Reviews should be one-time things.  In a year, it might be worth reviewing again, but the group shouldn't change very much in a week.  I will accept alternate reviews from different reviewers, if they are substantially different, but I would prefer to review another as-yet-unreviewed group.  news.groups.reviews will not be a discussion forum, so it may be worth running your review by other readers first -- particularly if it is a second review.  Questions about "Where can I find a group about X?" should be sent to news.groups.questions.  Discussion of the review should normally take place in the reviewed group itself.  As these types of followups are very different, followup will usually be set to poster.  Anything that shows up in the submission mailbox is fair game for posting to either news.groups.reviews or the unmoderated news.groups.questions.  I will make an effort to ensure that I'm sending it to the right place -- usually, by replying to the submission.  Reviews of (publicly accessible) mailing lists are fine, but interested readers are also directed to the short summaries available elsewhere.  If you would like one of these lists of lists, Stephanie da Silva, [email protected] posts one to news.lists.  If it has expired on your site, you can get it by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu >from /pub/usenet/news.lists/P_A_M_L,_P_*_8 where * represents each of the numbers 1 through 8.  [I am willing to add pointers to other lists of lists, if someone gives me step-by-step instructions for getting them.]  In your review, please try to express the flavor of the group as a whole.  Ideally, this will involve summarizing some recent threads, so that potential readers will have an example as well as a description.  Reviews need not be restricted to the big 7 -- if the group is widely available (eg, bionet, or eunet) that is sufficient.  Reviewed mailing lists should be open to all readers without restriction.  Here is a sample review, written by Vance Kochenderfer. Note that the Description: line is copied straight from /usr/lib/news/newsgroups, and the FAQ-Location: line is  in URL format.  While not mandatory, this is certainly encouraged.  --------------------  Newsgroup: alt.folklore.urban Moderator: none Description: Urban legends, ala Jan Harold Brunvand Keywords: urban legends, rumors, craig shergold Related-Groups: alt.folklore.info,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.college, 	alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.military,alt.folklore.science FAQ-Location: file://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq Reviewer: Vance Kochenderfer [email protected] Review-Date: 1 Jan 94  Have you ever wondered about that dying boy in England who wants get-well cards?  Or about lick-and-stick tattoos laced with LSD?  Or about all of those soda can tabs you've been donating for kidney patients?  Read a.f.u and wonder no more.  This group is dedicated to discussing and often debunking pervasive rumors and half-truths known collectively as urban legends.  Humorous and informative, the group also talks about the works of urban legend researchers such as Cecil Adams and Jan Harold Brunvand. Posters often ask innocuous-looking questions in order to bait newbies, so followup with care and read the FAQ list before posting; it is very wide- ranging and will answer most of your questions.  ========= Mail questions and comments about this review to the reviewer, or post them to alt.folklore.urban. Ask about other groups in news.groups.questions. 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