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From: [email protected] (Jamie Gritton)
Subject: RFD:  comp.org.eff.news moderated and comp.org.eff.talk
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This is a Request For Discussion for the Usenet groups
comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk.

Both groups already exist as part of the "inet" distribution, and are well
established. This RFD is to make them part of the official Usenet hierarchy.
The nature of the groups would not change, only their distribution.
Charters of the groups follow:

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comp.org.eff.news	News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated)
Submission address:	[email protected]

comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as
occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events,
gatherings, or appearances.

--
comp.org.eff.talk	Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues.

comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to
the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  Topics
have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of
BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being
applied to international networks.
-- 
James Gritton - [email protected] - I disclaim

From [email protected] Mon Jul  6 17:40:56 1992
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From: [email protected] (Jamie Gritton)
Subject: CFV: comp.org.eff.news moderated and comp.org.eff.talk
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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This is the Call For Votes for the Usenet groups
comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk.

Both groups already exist as part of the "inet" distribution, and are well
established. This vote is to make them part of the official Usenet hierarchy.
The nature of the groups would not change, only their distribution.

To vote, send mail to [email protected], with the body of the message
containing lines of the form:
I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.news.
I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.talk.

- If a group is not named in the message, it will be counted as an abstention.

- If duplicate votes are received from the same address, the most recent vote
  will be counted.

- The voting period will end on Monday, 29 July 1992.

- If you have any problems with the vote, send mail to me ([email protected]).
  (I will be gone July 4-12, but will read all my mail on the 13th.)

Charters of the groups follow:

--
comp.org.eff.news	News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated)
Submission address:	[email protected]

comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as
occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events,
gatherings, or appearances.

--
comp.org.eff.talk	Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues.

comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to
the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  Topics
have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of
BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being
applied to international networks.
-- 
James Gritton - [email protected] - I disclaim

From [email protected] Thu Jul 16 12:01:15 1992
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From: [email protected] (Jamie Gritton)
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.org.eff.news moderated and comp.org.eff.talk
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This is the Second Call For Votes for the Usenet groups
comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk.

Both groups already exist as part of the "inet" distribution, and are well
established. This vote is to make them part of the official Usenet hierarchy.
The nature of the groups would not change, only their distribution.

To vote, send mail to [email protected], with the body of the message
containing lines of the form:
I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.news.
I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.talk.

* [email protected]: My vote-taking program was broken when you voted.
  Please re-cast your vote.

- If a group is not named in the message, it will be counted as an abstention.

- If duplicate votes are received from the same address, the most recent vote
  will be counted.

- The voting period will end on Wednesday, 29 July 1992.

- If you have any problems with the vote, send mail to me ([email protected]).

Charters of the groups follow:

--
comp.org.eff.news	News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated)
Submission address:	[email protected]

comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as
occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events,
gatherings, or appearances.

--
comp.org.eff.talk	Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues.

comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to
the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  Topics
have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of
BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being
applied to international networks.

-- 

Here's the list of votes received so far:

Alan Coopersmith 
Alan Dudley 
B.J. 07-Jul-1992 1524 
Barry Margolin 
Brendan Kehoe 
Christopher Davis 
Clint Ruoho 
Craig Neidorf 
[email protected]
Daniel J. Weitzner 
Dave Farber 
Dave Murphy 
Ellen K. Seebacher 
Eric Hunt 
Erik Sowa 
Floyd Davidson 
Gerard Van der Leun 
[email protected] (Grant Crawford)
Hae-young Rieh Hwang 
Helen Trillian Rose 
[email protected] (Jack Winslade)
James R. Ault 
Jay Maynard 
Jim Lick 
John G Dobnick 
Juergen Christoffel 
Jyrki Kuoppala 
Keith Morgan 
Loren J. Miller 
Martin F. Terman 
Matt Hucke 
Michael Orr 
Mike Fessler 
Mike Godwin 
[email protected]
Ofer Inbar 
Richard P. Muller 
Rita Marie Rouvalis 
Saul Tannenbaum 
[email protected] (Scott Harrison)
Sendhil Revuluri 
[email protected]
Steve Wertheimer 
Sven Heinicke 
Ted Lemon 
Zach Kessin 
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Sridhar Venkataraman)
[email protected] (Alan Baxter)
[email protected] (David Sternlight)
[email protected] (Andrew Hackard)
[email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Stephanie da Silva)
[email protected] (Randall Atkinson)
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Perry Barlow)
[email protected] (Blake Farenthold)
[email protected] (Chris Galas)
[email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
[email protected] (The Technicolour Throw-up)
[email protected] (Mike Coleman)
[email protected] (Kent Goeking)
[email protected] (David Stodolsky)
[email protected] (Richard A. Duggan)
[email protected] (Brian Eck)
[email protected] (Edward Vielmetti)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Life...)
[email protected] (Jamie Gritton)
[email protected] (Eiji Hirai)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Edward J. Huff)
[email protected] (Ian Lance Taylor)
[email protected] (Joe Buck)
[email protected] (Jeff Holcomb)
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Harkin)
[email protected] (John Hawkinson)
[email protected] (Jim Atkinson)
[email protected] (Jonathan Blau)
[email protected] (Dameon D. Welch)
lelam%[email protected] (Len E. Elam)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Sean Malloy)
matwood%[email protected]
mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/[email protected]
[email protected] (Michael Rogero Brown)
[email protected] (Martha L. Wilson)
[email protected] (The Wolfe of the Den)
[email protected] (Brian Oplinger)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Pierre Uszynski)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ron Romero)
[email protected] (Bob Snyder)
[email protected] (Russell Schulz)
[email protected] (rodrigo vanegas)
[email protected] (Seth Breidbart)
[email protected] (Lynda L. True)
[email protected] (Simona Nass)
[email protected] (Martin Veneroso)
[email protected] (Phil Smith)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Steve Rogers)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Paul Schmidt)
[email protected] (Erik Horstkotte)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Real life?  Ha!)
[email protected] (David Turrell)
[email protected]
[email protected] (William W. Arnold)
[email protected] (The Jester)

From [email protected] Thu Jul 30 16:50:03 1992
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From: [email protected] (Jamie Gritton)
Subject: RESULT: comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk pass 181: 0 and 177:2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:25:08 GMT
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comp.org.eff.news passed without a single "no" vote and 181 "yes"
votes. Unfortunately, two people decided to vote against
comp.org.eff.talk, but it still passed 177:2.

These groups will be created (for sites that don't recieve them
already) following the five day waiting period, unless there are
*many* inaccuracies with the vote. Here are the charters of the
groups:

--
comp.org.eff.news	News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated)
Submission address:	[email protected]

comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as
occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events,
gatherings, or appearances.

--
comp.org.eff.talk	Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues.

comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to
the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  Topics
have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of
BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being
applied to international networks.

-- 

Here are the votes received for comp.org.eff.news and
comp.org.eff.talk respectively:

AA [email protected] (Randall Atkinson)
AA [email protected]

AN [email protected]

AY "Paul M. Mullins" 

YA [email protected] (Grant Crawford)
YA [email protected] (Brian Oplinger)
YA [email protected]
YA [email protected] (David Turrell)

YN Lyndon Nerenberg 

YY "B.J. 07-Jul-1992 1524" 
YY "Daniel J. Weitzner" 
YY "Ellen K. Seebacher" 
YY "Eric A. Litman" 
YY "James R. Ault" 
YY "Loren J. Miller" 
YY "Marshall G. Flax" 
YY "Martin F. Terman" 
YY "Richard P. Muller" 
YY "William A. Steele" 
YY Alan Coopersmith 
YY Alan Dudley 
YY Alan P Barrett 
YY Ashok Gupta 
YY Barry Margolin 
YY Bill Bogstad 
YY Brendan Kehoe 
YY Christopher Davis 
YY Cliff Stoll 
YY Clint Ruoho 
YY Craig Neidorf 
YY [email protected]
YY Dana WATANABE 
YY Dave Farber 
YY Dave Murphy 
YY David Aston 
YY [email protected] (Duane Day)
YY Eric Hunt 
YY Erik Sowa 
YY Floyd Davidson 
YY George William Herbert 
YY Gerard Van der Leun 
YY Gerben 'P' Vos 
YY Hae-young Rieh Hwang 
YY Helen Trillian Rose 
YY [email protected] (Jack Winslade)
YY Jay Maynard 
YY Jim Lick 
YY Joel B Levin 
YY John G Dobnick 
YY John Schultz 
YY Jonathan M Lennox 
YY Juergen Christoffel 
YY [email protected] (Peter D. Junger)
YY Jyrki Kuoppala 
YY Kathryn Henniss 
YY Keith Morgan 
YY Lars H}kedal 
YY Lee Thompson-Herbert 
YY MSKALA%[email protected]
YY Marco S Hyman 
YY [email protected]
YY Matt Hucke 
YY Maurice Forrester 
YY Michael Orr 
YY Mike Fessler 
YY Mike Godwin 
YY [email protected]
YY Ofer Inbar 
YY Oliver Schoett 
YY Rita Marie Rouvalis 
YY Robert S Cowan 
YY STEVEN BOWER 
YY Saul Tannenbaum 
YY [email protected] (Scott Harrison)
YY Sendhil Revuluri 
YY [email protected]
YY Steve Wertheimer 
YY Sven Heinicke 
YY Ted Lemon 
YY Tim Myers 
YY Tom Yates 
YY [email protected]
YY Zach Kessin 
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Sridhar Venkataraman)
YY [email protected] (Alan Baxter)
YY [email protected] (Joe Keane)
YY [email protected] (David Sternlight)
YY [email protected] (Andrew Hackard)
YY [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Stephanie da Silva)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Alan Westrope)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (John Perry Barlow)
YY [email protected] (Bronis Vidugiris)
YY [email protected] (Robert Bigelow)
YY [email protected] (Blake Farenthold)
YY [email protected] (Chris Galas)
YY [email protected] (Len Charest)
YY [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
YY [email protected] (The Technicolour Throw-up)
YY [email protected] (Andrei Cogan)
YY [email protected] (Mike Coleman)
YY [email protected] (Kent Goeking)
YY [email protected] (David Stodolsky)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Richard A. Duggan)
YY [email protected] (Brian Eck)
YY [email protected] (Edward Vielmetti)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (George W. Hayduke)
YY [email protected] (Life...)
YY [email protected] (Greg Trotter)
YY [email protected] (Jamie Gritton)
YY hatzm%[email protected] (WIN 3.1, ahhhh much better!)
YY [email protected] (Vera Heinau)
YY [email protected] (Eiji Hirai)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Edward J. Huff)
YY [email protected] (Ian Lance Taylor)
YY [email protected] (Brad Cox)
YY [email protected] (Jamie O'Keefe)
YY [email protected] (Joe Buck)
YY [email protected] (Jeff Holcomb)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Joe Hartley)
YY [email protected] (John Harkin)
YY [email protected] (John Hawkinson)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (J Petersen)
YY [email protected] (Jim Atkinson)
YY [email protected] (Jonathan Blau)
YY [email protected] (Dameon D. Welch)
YY [email protected] (Kevin McCarty)
YY [email protected] (Kragh J. Hertel)
YY lelam%[email protected] (Len E. Elam)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Sean Malloy)
YY matwood%[email protected]
YY mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/[email protected]
YY [email protected] (Michael C. Berch)
YY [email protected] (Michael Rogero Brown)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff)
YY [email protected] (The Wolfe of the Den)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY phil sutherland 
YY [email protected] (Pierre Uszynski)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Ron Romero)
YY [email protected] (Bob Snyder)
YY [email protected] (ruman)
YY [email protected] (Russell Schulz)
YY [email protected] (rodrigo vanegas)
YY [email protected] (Seth Breidbart)
YY [email protected] (Lynda L. True)
YY [email protected] (Simona Nass)
YY [email protected] (Martin Veneroso)
YY [email protected] (Phil Smith)
YY [email protected] (Jeffrey Sorensen)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Steve Rogers)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Tim Ramsey)
YY [email protected] (Paul Schmidt)
YY [email protected] (Erik Horstkotte)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (Real life?  Ha!)
YY [email protected] (Brad Allen)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (William W. Arnold)
YY [email protected]
YY [email protected] (The Jester)

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