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From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 13:29:10 1992
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Subject: RFD: *.answers moderated newsgroups
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Since the creation of the news.answers newsgroup, the amount of
material appearing in it has risen dramatically.  The postings
currently appearing in the group are both many and varied in topic.
This has led to some problems:

1) Some sites do not want to carry news.answers because it is too
large.  Although it is true that this problem can, to some extent, be
avoided by asking feeds to put "!news.answers" in their sys files, so
that only articles cross-posted to news.answers (and therefore not
taking up additional space in the news spool) are fed, some
administrators are not knowledgeable enough to know about this or do
not want to go to the trouble.

2) The amount of traffic in the group is large enough that some users
are finding it difficult to actively read the group in order to "find
out what's out there" on the net.  The ability for people to actually
read the newsgroup on a day-to-day basis was one of the purposes
outlined in the newsgroup's charter, so if the ability to do this is
being challenged, there is reason to be concerned.

3) Some users and administrators are disturbed by the mingling of
periodic postings of many different sorts in the newsgroup.  In the
extreme, for example, I have received complaints from some users who
find some of the postings in news.answers "offensive" and have asked
me to withdraw my permission for those postings to appear in the
newsgroup.

4) The burden on me as the moderator of news.answers has increased.
Although it is certainly not yet unbearable, it's getting there.

Several people have suggested, as a solution to this problem, the
creation of separate "answers" newsgroups for each newsgroup
hierarchy.  Periodic postings would be cross-posted to the "answers"
newsgroups of the hierarchies of their "home" newsgroups, in addition
to being cross-posted to news.answers (for example, an FAQ posting for
the "comp.foo" newsgroup would be cross-posted to news.answers and
comp.answers in addition to comp.foo).  Then, people could choose to
read one or more of the single-hierarchy "answers" newsgroups, or to
news.answers.  Furthermore, administrators could choose to receive a
subset of the "answers" newsgroups.

These proposals have taken two forms: either (a) create "rec.answers",
"comp.answers", etc., or (b) create "news.answers.comp",
"news.answers.rec", etc.  Both have advantages and disadvantages.  The
former has the advantage of isolating periodic postings in the
hierarchies in which they are most relevant; the latter has the
advantage of putting all of the "answers" newsgroups in one place, so
that they are easy to find or to filter out of news feeds.

Another suggestion has been to not actually officially create the
"answers" newsgroups.  Instead, periodic posting authors could simply
list the relevant "virtual" newsgroups in their Newsgroups lines, and
then administrators who wish to store periodic postings could create
the newsgroups locally.  This has the advantage of not requiring an
official Usenet vote to create the groups, and of allowing
administrators to choose which of the "answers" groups they want
simply by creating them.  Disadvantages include that many
administrators won't bother, that if the names are not officially
created, they are not officially "reserved" and therefore might be
used later for something else (although that is doubtful), and that
some sites will have a problem with postings to newsgroups that do not
exist.

My personal preference is to hold a call for votes to create *.answers
groups for all of the mainstream hierarchies, with the moderators for
those groups initially the same as the moderator for news.answers
(i.e., me), although the work may later be divided among multiple
moderators (I'd certainly like to see that happen :-).

Please comment in news.groups about this.
-- 
Jonathan Kamens                                         [email protected]
MIT Information Systems/Athena              Moderator, news.answers

From [email protected] Thu Nov 19 14:46:03 1992
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From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Subject: CFV: *.answers moderated newsgroups
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Archive-name: news-answers/administrivia

			What the vote is about

  This is a CALL FOR VOTES on the proposal to create the following
moderated newsgroups:

	comp.answers
	misc.answers
	rec.answers
	sci.answers
	soc.answers
	talk.answers

The charters of these newsgroups will be identical to the charter of
news.answers, with the addition that each of these newsgroups will
contain only periodic informational postings that are also posted to
other newsgroups in the same hierarchy (e.g., the "comp.answers"
newsgroups would contain only postings that appear in at least one
other "comp" newsgroup).

  The charter of news.answers, from the "Introduction to the
news.answers newsgroup" posting, is as follows:

>			What is news.answers?
>
>  The news.answers newsgroup serves as a repository in which periodic
>informational postings (a.k.a "Frequently Asked Questions" postings,
>or "FAQs") from other newsgroups are posted.
>
>  Although it's difficult to say exactly what qualifies as an FAQ that
>belongs in news.answers, the basic description is, "any posting which
>answers common questions and is meant to be read by humans beings."
>Furthermore, FAQs cross-posted in news.answers should have meaningful
>subject lines.  For example, an FAQ for rec.chess should have a
>subject line saying something like "chess Frequently Asked Questions
>(FAQ)," rather than just "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)."
>
>  For example, the comp.unix.questions "Frequently Asked Questions
>about Unix - with Answers [Monthly posting]" and the
>news.announce.newusers "Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on
>Netiquette" belong in news.answers, as does the README file from
>comp.mail.maps.  However, the comp.mail.maps map postings and the
>readership statistics from news.lists do not.
>
>  FAQ postings from any hierarchy that travels using "USENET
>mechanisms" can be cross-posted to news.answers (i.e. news.answers is
>not limited to postings from the comp, sci, misc, soc, talk, news and
>rec hierarchies).  If an FAQ maintainer feels that his (and I mean
>that "his" in a completely politically correct, gender-neutral way, so
>don't bother complaining about it) posting is of interest only to
>people in its home hierarchy, then he can (try to) restrict the
>distribution of the FAQ using the Distribution mechanism; if he feels
>that it is of more general interest, he can avoid any Distribution
>restrictions, in which case the FAQ might receive a wider distribution
>that most postings in the hierarchy.  This is a pretty reasonable
>thing, considering that FAQs are often considered the "distilled
>wisdom" of a newsgroup or group of newsgroups, so a single FAQ from a
>hierarchy might be of wider interest than the hierarchy as a whole.
>
>  Where there is an ambiguity, I will decide whether or not a posting
>belongs in the newsgroup.
>
>  There are several reasons why this newsgroup exists.  They include:
>
>* It is easier for site administrators to keep FAQs around for a long
>  time if they are all cross-posted to one newsgroup....
>  Administrators can make the maximum expire time for news.answers
>  very long, instead of making every newsgroup with FAQs in it have a
>  long maximum expire time.
>
>* It is easier for sites that archive FAQs to generate their archives,
>  since they will need to watch just one newsgroup rather than
>  scanning the entire news spool.
>
>* It provides a "quick reference" for users, in several different
>  respects.  Users who want to browse through the various FAQs that
>  the USENET has to offer can do so in just one newsgroup.  Users who
>  want to find an FAQ from a particular newsgroup but don't know its
>  subject can search for that newsgroup in the headers of the articles
>  in news.answers.
>
>* Software for retrieving FAQs can also be simplified to use
>  news.answers as the basis for FAQ searches.

These newsgroups are being proposed in order to make it easier for
users to choose which FAQs they will and will not read, and to make it
easier for administrators to choose which FAQs will be fed to their
sites and which will not.

  Initially, these newsgroups will be moderated by the moderator of
news.answers (i.e., by me).  Eventually, I hope to find others to
moderate some of the newsgroups -- I will develop a mechanism for the
multiple moderators working together to keep the *.answers newsgroups
consistent while dividing the labor between them.

  Note that news.answers will continue to exist in its current form,
i.e, ALL PERIODIC POSTINGS WILL CONTINUE TO APPEAR IN NEWS.ANSWERS,
even the ones that are cross-posted to other *.answers newsgroups as
well.

  In addition to the newsgroups being voted on here, other *.answers
newsgroups will probably be created in some alternative and regional
hierarchies (for example, alt.answers).  However, those groups are not
being considered here because new groups in other hierarchies are not
created using the guidelines under which this vote is being held.


			     How to vote

  In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail
message to the address [email protected] (if you reply
via mail to this message, your mail will be directed to that address).
If your site does not understand that address, you might try:

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	mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
	uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server

If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can
help you address the mail properly.  Posted votes will not be counted.
Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted.

  Your mail should contain in its body one line for each vote you want
to cast.  The line should be in the format "vote newsgroup myvote",
where "newsgroup" is the name of the newsgroup for which you are
voting and "myvote" is either "yes", "no" or "abstain".  To vote
easily, you can cut-and-paste the following lines and replace the
string MYVOTE at the end of each with the vote you want to cast:

	vote comp.answers MYVOTE
	vote misc.answers MYVOTE
	vote rec.answers MYVOTE
	vote sci.answers MYVOTE
	vote soc.answers MYVOTE
	vote talk.answers MYVOTE

A vote of "yes" indicates approval of the newsgroup.  A vote of "no"
indicates opposition to it.  A vote of "abstain" cancels any previous
vote for or against it.

  Multiple votes from the same person should be sent from the same
address, although they do not have to be sent in one E-mail message.
If multiple votes for a particular group are received from the same
person, the last vote received for that group is the only one counted.

  You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its
receipt, within two days.  If you do not, or if you have some other
problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to
[email protected]


			     When to vote

  Votes received between the date in the header of this message and
Sat Dec 20 23:59:59 GMT 1992 will be counted.  At least one mass
acknowledgement and repeat call for votes will be posted during the
voting period.
-- 
Jonathan Kamens                                         [email protected]
MIT Information Systems/Athena              Moderator, news.answers

From [email protected] Fri Dec  4 16:15:27 1992
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: *.answers moderated newsgroups
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Archive-name: news-answers/administrivia

  This is a repeat call for votes and a mass vote acknowledgement for
the vote to create new *.answers newsgroups.  The first section below
is a copy of the original CFV text.  The second section is a list of
people whose votes have been received so far.

		      *************************

			What the vote is about

  This is a CALL FOR VOTES on the proposal to create the following
moderated newsgroups:

	comp.answers
	misc.answers
	rec.answers
	sci.answers
	soc.answers
	talk.answers

The charters of these newsgroups will be identical to the charter of
news.answers, with the addition that each of these newsgroups will
contain only periodic informational postings that are also posted to
other newsgroups in the same hierarchy (e.g., the "comp.answers"
newsgroups would contain only postings that appear in at least one
other "comp" newsgroup).

  The charter of news.answers, from the "Introduction to the
news.answers newsgroup" posting, is as follows:

>			What is news.answers?
>
>  The news.answers newsgroup serves as a repository in which periodic
>informational postings (a.k.a "Frequently Asked Questions" postings,
>or "FAQs") from other newsgroups are posted.
>
>  Although it's difficult to say exactly what qualifies as an FAQ that
>belongs in news.answers, the basic description is, "any posting which
>answers common questions and is meant to be read by humans beings."
>Furthermore, FAQs cross-posted in news.answers should have meaningful
>subject lines.  For example, an FAQ for rec.chess should have a
>subject line saying something like "chess Frequently Asked Questions
>(FAQ)," rather than just "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)."
>
>  For example, the comp.unix.questions "Frequently Asked Questions
>about Unix - with Answers [Monthly posting]" and the
>news.announce.newusers "Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on
>Netiquette" belong in news.answers, as does the README file from
>comp.mail.maps.  However, the comp.mail.maps map postings and the
>readership statistics from news.lists do not.
>
>  FAQ postings from any hierarchy that travels using "USENET
>mechanisms" can be cross-posted to news.answers (i.e. news.answers is
>not limited to postings from the comp, sci, misc, soc, talk, news and
>rec hierarchies).  If an FAQ maintainer feels that his (and I mean
>that "his" in a completely politically correct, gender-neutral way, so
>don't bother complaining about it) posting is of interest only to
>people in its home hierarchy, then he can (try to) restrict the
>distribution of the FAQ using the Distribution mechanism; if he feels
>that it is of more general interest, he can avoid any Distribution
>restrictions, in which case the FAQ might receive a wider distribution
>that most postings in the hierarchy.  This is a pretty reasonable
>thing, considering that FAQs are often considered the "distilled
>wisdom" of a newsgroup or group of newsgroups, so a single FAQ from a
>hierarchy might be of wider interest than the hierarchy as a whole.
>
>  Where there is an ambiguity, I will decide whether or not a posting
>belongs in the newsgroup.
>
>  There are several reasons why this newsgroup exists.  They include:
>
>* It is easier for site administrators to keep FAQs around for a long
>  time if they are all cross-posted to one newsgroup....
>  Administrators can make the maximum expire time for news.answers
>  very long, instead of making every newsgroup with FAQs in it have a
>  long maximum expire time.
>
>* It is easier for sites that archive FAQs to generate their archives,
>  since they will need to watch just one newsgroup rather than
>  scanning the entire news spool.
>
>* It provides a "quick reference" for users, in several different
>  respects.  Users who want to browse through the various FAQs that
>  the USENET has to offer can do so in just one newsgroup.  Users who
>  want to find an FAQ from a particular newsgroup but don't know its
>  subject can search for that newsgroup in the headers of the articles
>  in news.answers.
>
>* Software for retrieving FAQs can also be simplified to use
>  news.answers as the basis for FAQ searches.

These newsgroups are being proposed in order to make it easier for
users to choose which FAQs they will and will not read, and to make it
easier for administrators to choose which FAQs will be fed to their
sites and which will not.

  Initially, these newsgroups will be moderated by the moderator of
news.answers (i.e., by me).  Eventually, I hope to find others to
moderate some of the newsgroups -- I will develop a mechanism for the
multiple moderators working together to keep the *.answers newsgroups
consistent while dividing the labor between them.

  Note that news.answers will continue to exist in its current form,
i.e, ALL PERIODIC POSTINGS WILL CONTINUE TO APPEAR IN NEWS.ANSWERS,
even the ones that are cross-posted to other *.answers newsgroups as
well.

  In addition to the newsgroups being voted on here, other *.answers
newsgroups will probably be created in some alternative and regional
hierarchies (for example, alt.answers).  However, those groups are not
being considered here because new groups in other hierarchies are not
created using the guidelines under which this vote is being held.


			     How to vote

  In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail
message to the address [email protected] (if you reply
via mail to this message, your mail will be directed to that address).
If your site does not understand that address, you might try:

	mail-server%[email protected]
	mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
	uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server

If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can
help you address the mail properly.  Posted votes will not be counted.
Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted.

  Your mail should contain in its body one line for each vote you want
to cast.  The line should be in the format "vote newsgroup myvote",
where "newsgroup" is the name of the newsgroup for which you are
voting and "myvote" is either "yes", "no" or "abstain".  To vote
easily, you can cut-and-paste the following lines and replace the
string MYVOTE at the end of each with the vote you want to cast:

	vote comp.answers MYVOTE
	vote misc.answers MYVOTE
	vote rec.answers MYVOTE
	vote sci.answers MYVOTE
	vote soc.answers MYVOTE
	vote talk.answers MYVOTE

A vote of "yes" indicates approval of the newsgroup.  A vote of "no"
indicates opposition to it.  A vote of "abstain" cancels any previous
vote for or against it.

  Multiple votes from the same person should be sent from the same
address, although they do not have to be sent in one E-mail message.
If multiple votes for a particular group are received from the same
person, the last vote received for that group is the only one counted.

  You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its
receipt, within two days.  If you do not, or if you have some other
problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to
[email protected]


			     When to vote

  Votes received between the date in the header of this message and
Sat Dec 20 23:59:59 GMT 1992 will be counted.  At least one mass
acknowledgement and repeat call for votes will be posted during the
voting period.

		      *************************

  The following is a list of people for whom votes have been received
as of 10PM GMT on December 2.  On the left of each line is the address
>from which votes were received, and on the right is a series of dots
indicating which votes. 

                                                            talk.answers------+
                                                            soc.answers------+|
                                                            sci.answers-----+||
                                                            rec.answers----+|||
                                                            misc.answers--+||||
                                                            comp.answers-+|||||
									 vvvvvv
[email protected] (Arthur Rubin)                              .. .
[email protected] (Steve Adams)                                             ......
[email protected] (Andre Lehovich)                                         ......
[email protected] (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)......
[email protected] (Alan Baxter)                                           ......
[email protected] (Allan Poindexter)                                  ......
[email protected] (Anders Hallberg)                        ......
[email protected]                                            ......
Gary Ansok <[email protected]>                                             ......
[email protected]                                                   ......
[email protected] (Vincent Archer)                              ......
Arne Henrik Juul <[email protected]>                                 ......
[email protected]                                                ......
<[email protected]>                                                          ......
[email protected]                                                          ......
Tony Zamora <[email protected]>                                     ......
[email protected] (Brian Button)                                  ......
[email protected] (Brian Court)                                             ......
[email protected] (Carlo Baffa)                                     ......
[email protected] (J.D. Baldwin)                           ......
[email protected]                                       ......
Bengt Larsson <[email protected]>                                      ......
[email protected]                                                       ......
[email protected] (Better than a sharp stick in the eye.)           ......
[email protected] (Brian Smithson)                                 ......
[email protected] (Bruce Feist)                       ....
Bryan Cardoza <[email protected]>                                 ......
[email protected] (Judith Bush)                             ......
Alexander EICHENER <[email protected]>                     ......
Carl <[email protected]>                                            ......
[email protected]                                                 ......
Charles Shub <[email protected]>                                ......
[email protected] (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)                             ......
[email protected] (Chip Salzenberg)                                           ......
Chris Johnston <[email protected]>                                   ......
Christophe Wolfhugel <[email protected]>           ......
Christopher Davis <[email protected]>                                          ......
Clive Newall <[email protected]>                                 ......
Chris Marble <[email protected]>                              ......
"Ofer Inbar" <[email protected]>                                 ......
[email protected] (Randy Coulman)                                   ......
[email protected]                                                ......
[email protected] (Clare West)                                       ......
[email protected] (Daniel S. Lewart)                                     ......
[email protected] (Paulo da Costa 42147)                            ......
[email protected] (Dawn Whiteside)                                       ......
[email protected]                                               ......
[email protected]                                                     . ...
[email protected] (Dave Brooks)                                               ......
[email protected] (Doug Osborn)                                        .. .
[email protected] (Doug Eastick)                           ......
[email protected] (Eduardo Rodriguez)                      ......
[email protected] (Ed McGuire)                                   ......
Ephraim Vishniac <[email protected]>                                     ......
Greg Franklin <[email protected]>                               ......
David John Kunz <[email protected]>                              ......
William C Fenner <[email protected]>                                     ......
[email protected]                                               ......
[email protected]                                             ......
[email protected] (^ILeon Frederick - DSB^I)                          ...
Geoff Allen <[email protected]>                                     . ..
[email protected] (MargAret D. Gibbs)                                    ......
[email protected] (Greg Black)                                       .. .
Gerben 'P' Vos <[email protected]>                                          ......
[email protected]                                                ......
[email protected] (Stephen Graham)                                ......
[email protected] (Greg Faulk)                                               ......
[email protected] (Bernd Grether (sorescu))......
[email protected]                                                          ......
[email protected] (Ron Heiby)                                        ......
[email protected] (Heiko Schlichting)                    ......
[email protected] (Vera Heinau)                         ......
B.J.  19-Nov-1992 1750 <[email protected]>                    ......
[email protected] (Herve Schauer)                                   ......
[email protected] (Edward J. Huff)                                 ......
[email protected] (Ian Lance Taylor)                                          ......
Ian Rogers <[email protected]>                                      ......
[email protected] (Josh Smith)                                ......
Irving_Wolfe <[email protected]>                                ......
[email protected] (Ian Jackson)                                          ......
J Lee Jaap <[email protected]>                                      ......
[email protected] (Mark James)                                     ......
[email protected] (Jan Isley)                                        ......
John Bartol <[email protected]>                                       ......
[email protected] (jeremy bettis)                                      .... .
Juergen Christoffel <[email protected]>                                     ......
John DiMarco <[email protected]>                                       ......
[email protected] (John Duncan)                                    ......
[email protected] (Jonathan Monsarrat)                                    ......
[email protected] (John Harkin)                                                 ......
[email protected] (John Hawkinson)                                         ....
"Jonathan I. Kamens" <[email protected]>                           ......
James Mathiesen <[email protected]>                                  ......
[email protected] (J J Farrell)                                         ......
Jay Maynard <[email protected]>                               ......
[email protected] (Joe Smith)                                        ......
<[email protected]>                                             ......
[email protected]                                               ......
[email protected]                                                         ......
Lord Yak Da Hairy <[email protected]>                              ......
Jonathan Gowland <[email protected]>                            ......
[email protected] (Jim Atkinson)                                     ......
[email protected] (Blackwell James R)                                      .....
[email protected] (Peter Kaminski)                                     ......
"Neeran M. Karnik" <[email protected]>                                   ......
[email protected]                                                           ......
Kelly Derek Deyoe <[email protected]>                                      ......
[email protected] (Kees Hendrikse)                             ......
[email protected] (Kevin McCarty)                                           ... ..
[email protected] (Bill Konrad)                                  ......
Karleenus Schwartz Davis <[email protected]>                ......
[email protected]                                                     ......
[email protected]                       ......
[email protected] (Mark Linimon)                                      ......
Lisa Bjarke <[email protected]>                                  ......
[email protected] (Larry W. Virden, x2487)                                   ......
Danny Schwendener <[email protected]>                               ......
Magnus Olsson <[email protected]>                                        ......
Jeff Makey <[email protected]>                                           ......
[email protected]                                               ......
[email protected] (Markus Witt)                                       ......
[email protected]                                                   ......
[email protected] (Mark Atwood)                                ......
[email protected] (Malcolm Mladenovic)                                  ......
Dan McDonald <[email protected]>                                   ......
[email protected] (Alayne McGregor)                                    ......
Martha Gunnarson <[email protected]>                                            .. ...
[email protected] (Marc G. Frank)                                      ......
Magnus Holmberg <[email protected]>                                     ......
[email protected]                                                   ......
[email protected] (Michael Shields)         ......
Martin Merry <[email protected]>                                       ......
Michael Quinn <[email protected]>                         ......
[email protected] (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)                                  ......
Monty Solomon <[email protected]>                                      ......
[email protected] (Stephen Cristol)                          ......
[email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff)                           ......
Melissa Wauford <[email protected]>                                ......
Helge Nareid <[email protected]>                                        ......
[email protected]                                                    ......
Ommund Oegaard <[email protected]>                                     ......
"M. Otto" <[email protected]>                                        ......
Peter Craig <[email protected]>                                     ......
[email protected] (Pierre Asselin)                                           ......
[email protected] (Phil Earnhardt)                                         ......
Paul Wells <[email protected]>                                   ......
[email protected]                                               ......
[email protected] (Paul E. Hoffman)                                   ......
[email protected] (Pierre Uszynski)                         ......
prc <[email protected]>                                                  ......
Paul W Schleck KD3FU <[email protected]>                         ......
Pirawat Watanapongse <[email protected]>                                   ......
Joshua Randall <[email protected]>                                 ......
ron c carman <[email protected]>                                      ......
[email protected] (Richard E. Depew)                                 ......
[email protected]                                                    ......
[email protected] (Roger H. Brown)                                        ......
[email protected] (Richard Pawlowicz)                                 ......
[email protected] (Richard M. Mathews)                        ......
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)                         ......
[email protected] (Patricia O Tuama)                                   ......
[email protected] (Robert K Nichols)                                .
[email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)                                  ......
[email protected] (Roger Holst)                                  ......
[email protected] (Ron Romero)                                        ......
Eric Rossing <[email protected]>                                       ......
[email protected] (Tom Rowan)                                     ......
[email protected] (Ralph Levan)                                               ......
[email protected] (Rich Kulawiec)                                 ......
[email protected] (Rich Thomson)                                       ......
[email protected]                                                        ......
[email protected] (rodrigo vanegas)                                        ......
[email protected] (Rod Whitby)                                ......
[email protected] (Sam Falkner)                                ......
[email protected] (Sarel Lugtenburg)                                ......
[email protected]                                                        ......
Saul Tannenbaum <[email protected]>                                 ......
[email protected] (Scott Hazen Mueller)                             ......
[email protected] (Lynda L. True)                                ......
[email protected] (Simona Nass)                                           ......
[email protected] (Stephen Joseph Smith)                                ......
Seth the Lesser <[email protected]>                           ......
Jason Hunsaker <[email protected]>                                        ......
[email protected] (Wim Slootmans)                                  .  ..
Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]>                                  .  . .
[email protected] (Mikael Parknert)                                   ......
[email protected] (Sridhar Venkataraman)                        ......
[email protected] (Steve Rogers)                                       ......
Stefan Linnemann <[email protected]>                    ......
Stephan Niemz <[email protected]>                                ......
Stephen Hebditch <[email protected]>                            ......
[email protected] (Stu Labovitz)                                  ......
[email protected]                                              ......
Morten Tandle <[email protected]>                                       ......
[email protected] (Tim Frost)                                         ......
Timothy VanFosson <[email protected]>                                  ......
[email protected]                                                          ......
[email protected]                                        ......
[email protected] (Tony Mountifield)                                  ......
[email protected] (Tony DeBari)                                     ......
"Tony (T.) Rice" <[email protected]>                                          ......
Tim Pierce <[email protected]>                                   ......
[email protected]                                                  ......
[email protected] (Carol Wang)                                      .  ...
[email protected] (Werner Uhrig)                                      ......
[email protected] (John Werner)                                    ......
[email protected] (Lars Wirzenius)                                 ......
[email protected] (Willem Jan Withagen)                                  ..
[email protected]                                               ......
(The Crossjammer) <[email protected]>                            ......
"Yvonne Y. Yang" <[email protected]>                         ......
-- 
Jonathan Kamens                                         [email protected]
MIT Information Systems/Athena              Moderator, news.answers

From [email protected] Wed Jan  6 21:02:57 1993
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From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Subject: RESULT: *.answers groups pass
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Archive-name: news-answers/administrivia

  The voting period for votes on comp.answers, misc.answers,
rec.answers, sci.answers, soc.answers, and talk.answers is over.  The
results are as follows:

  Group               Yes votes  No votes  Difference  % yes votes  Passes?

  comp.answers              258        27         231         90.5  PASS   
  misc.answers              246        28         218         89.8  PASS   
  rec.answers               241        31         210         88.6  PASS   
  sci.answers               251        27         224         90.3  PASS   
  soc.answers               240        29         211         89.2  PASS   
  talk.answers              232        35         197         86.9  PASS   

All six votes have succeeded, and barring any successful challenges to
the votes, newgroup messages for them will be sent out by David
Lawrence.

  As concluded during the discussion phase previous to the vote, the
moderator of news.answers (i.e., me) will initially moderate all of
these groups.  However, I am interested in volunteers to help moderate
them, so that the work can be divided among more than one person.  If
you are interested, please contact me.

  Note that both posted CFVs contained an error in the deadline for
voting.  They said, "Votes received between the date in the header of
this message and Sat Dec 20 23:59:59 GMT 1992 will be counted."
December 20 was Sunday, not Saturday.  However, this error did not
affect the outcome of the vote either way, since no votes were
received on December 20.

  The following is a list of voters.  In the vote columns, 'Y'
indicates a yes vote, 'N' a no vote, and 'A' an abstention.

                                                           talk.answers------+
                                                           soc.answers------+|
                                                           sci.answers-----+||
                                                           rec.answers----+|||
                                                           misc.answers--+||||
                                                           comp.answers-+|||||
                                                                        vvvvvv
Ismo Peltonen <@fuug.fi:[email protected]>               YYYYYY
Andrew Henry <[email protected]>                                 YAYYAA
[email protected] (Arthur Rubin)                             NYAYAA
Albert Crosby <[email protected]>                                  YYYYYY
[email protected] (Steve Adams)                                            YYYYYY
[email protected] (Andre Lehovich)                                        YYYYYY
Alan Thew <[email protected]>                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward          YYYYYY
  Tumbleweeds.)
[email protected] (Alan Baxter)                                          YYYYYY
[email protected] (Allan Poindexter)                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Anders Hallberg)                       YYYYYY
[email protected]                                           YYYYYY
Gary Ansok <[email protected]>                                            YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                  YYYYYY
[email protected] (Vincent Archer)                             YYYYYY
Arne Henrik Juul <[email protected]>                                YYYYYY
[email protected]                                               YYYYYY
<[email protected]>                                                         YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                         YYYYYY
Tony Zamora <[email protected]>                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Brian Button)                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Brian Court)                                            YYYYYY
[email protected] (Carlo Baffa)                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (J.D. Baldwin)                          YYYYYY
Alan P Barrett <[email protected]>                             YYYYYY
[email protected]                                      YYYYYY
Bengt Larsson <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Bernard.Guillaumot)                              YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Better than a sharp stick in the eye.)          YYYYYY
[email protected] (Patrick Schaaf)                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Brian Smithson)                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Stan Brown)                                           NNNNNN
[email protected] (Bruce Feist)                      YYYYAA
Bryan Cardoza <[email protected]>                                NNNNNN
Eric Hunt <[email protected]>                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Judith Bush)                            YYYYYY
"Ben Wildasin" <[email protected]>                          NNNNNN
[email protected]                                             YYYYYY
Alexander EICHENER <[email protected]>                    YYYYYY
Dave Schulman <[email protected]>                            YYYYYY
Carl <[email protected]>                                           YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                YYYYYY
JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE <[email protected]>                             YYYYYY
[email protected] (Christian.CHASSAN)                               YYYYYY
Charles Shub <[email protected]>                               NNNNNN
[email protected] (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)                            YYYYYY
[email protected] (Chip Salzenberg)                                          YYYYYY
Chris Johnston <[email protected]>                                  YYYYYY
Christophe Wolfhugel <[email protected]>          NNNNNN
Christopher Davis <[email protected]>                                         YYYYYY
[email protected] (Claire.LAMBERT)                                  YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Chris Lewis)                                YYYYYN
Clive Newall <[email protected]>                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Cory L. Scott)                                NNNNNY
Chris Marble <[email protected]>                             YYYYYY
"Ofer Inbar" <[email protected]>                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Randy Coulman)                                  YYYYYY
[email protected]                                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Clare West)                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Daniel S. Lewart)                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Dack)                              YYYYYY
[email protected] (Paulo da Costa 42147)                           NNNNNN
[email protected] (David Tamkin)                                    YYYYYN
[email protected] (Dawn Whiteside)                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Scott Denham x7117)                         NNNNNN
[email protected] (Arjan de Vet)                                         YYYYYY
[email protected]                                              YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                    YAYYYA
"David H. Brierley" <[email protected]>                                   YYYYYY
"Dennis Brennan" <[email protected]>                             YYYYYY
[email protected] (Dave Brooks)                                              YYYYNN
[email protected] (Lynn Dobbs)                                         YYYYYY
[email protected] (Doug Osborn)                                       YYAYAA
[email protected] (Doug Eastick)                          YYYYYY
Erik Bailey <[email protected]>                                             YYYYYY
[email protected] (Eduardo Rodriguez)                     YYYYYY
"Derek A. Edwards" <[email protected]>                            YAAAAA
[email protected] (Paul Eggert)                                        YYYYYY
[email protected]                                         YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ed McGuire)                                  YYYYYY
Ephraim Vishniac <[email protected]>                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Emeric.de.Saint.Roman)                          YYYYYY
Greg Franklin <[email protected]>                              YYYYYY
David John Kunz <[email protected]>                             YYYYYY
William C Fenner <[email protected]>                                    YYYYYY
[email protected]                                              YYYYYY
[email protected]                                            YYYYYY
[email protected] (^ILeon Frederick - DSB^I)                         YYYAAA
[email protected]                                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Richard Stueven)                                           YYYYYY
Geoff Allen <[email protected]>                                    YAYYAA
[email protected]                                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (MargAret D. Gibbs)                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Greg Black)                                      YYAYAA
Greg Johnson <[email protected]>                               YYYYYY
Gerben 'P' Vos <[email protected]>                                         YYYYYY
[email protected]                                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Stephen Graham)                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jon Grantham)                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Greg Faulk)                                              YYYYYY
[email protected] (Bernd Grether      YYYYYY
  (sorescu))
[email protected]                                                         NNNNNN
[email protected] (Philip A Guenther)                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Gordon Van Huizen)                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ron Heiby)                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Heiko Schlichting)                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Vera Heinau)                        YYYYYY
B.J.  19-Nov-1992 1750 <[email protected]>                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Herve Schauer)                                  YYYYYY
Heinz Knutzen <[email protected]>                           YAAYAA
"Henrik Tougaard" <[email protected]>                                        YYYYYY
[email protected] (Edward J. Huff)                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ian Lance Taylor)                                         YYYYYY
Ian Rogers <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ian Kluft)                                       YYYYAA
[email protected] (Josh Smith)                               YYYYYY
Irving_Wolfe <[email protected]>                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ian Jackson)                                         YYYYYY
J Lee Jaap <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Mark James)                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jan Isley)                                       YYYYYY
John Bartol <[email protected]>                                      NNNNNN
Jeremy Bettis <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (jeremy bettis)                                     YYYYAY
Joan Boorstein <[email protected]>                                  YYYYYY
Juergen Christoffel <[email protected]>                                    YYYYYY
John DiMarco <[email protected]>                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (John Duncan)                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jeffrey E. Finucane)                           YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jonathan Monsarrat)                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (John Harkin)                                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (John Hawkinson)                                        YYYYAA
"Jonathan I. Kamens" <[email protected]>                          YYYYYY
James Mathiesen <[email protected]>                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (J J Farrell)                                        YYYYYY
[email protected] (Juan.Moscol)                                     YYYYYY
Jay Maynard <[email protected]>                              YYYYYY
[email protected] (Joe Smith)                                       YYYYYY
<[email protected]>                                            YYYYYY
[email protected]                                              YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                        YYYYYY
Lord Yak Da Hairy <[email protected]>                             YYYYYY
Jonathan Gowland <[email protected]>                           YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jim Atkinson)                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Blackwell James R)                                     YYNYNA
[email protected] (Massi joseph r 301-369-7780)              YYYYYN
[email protected] (John Gregory)                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Peter Kaminski)                                    YYYYYY
Karl Olav Lillevold TFU Student <[email protected]>                 NNNNNN
"Neeran M. Karnik" <[email protected]>                                  YNNYYN
[email protected]                                                          YYYYYY
Kelly Derek Deyoe <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Kees Hendrikse)                            YYYYYY
[email protected] (Kevin Lu)                                NNNNNN
[email protected] (Kevin McCarty)                                          YYYAYY
[email protected] (Bill Konrad)                                 YYYYYY
Karleenus Schwartz Davis <[email protected]>               YYYYYY
Craig Latta <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                    YYYYYY
[email protected]                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Mark Linimon)                                     YYYYYY
Lisa Bjarke <[email protected]>                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Larry W. Virden, x2487)                                  YYYYYY
Danny Schwendener <[email protected]>                              YYYYYY
Magnus Olsson <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
Jeff Makey <[email protected]>                                          NNNNNN
[email protected]                                              YYYYYY
[email protected]                                   YYYYYY
[email protected] (Markus Witt)                                      YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                  YYYYYY
[email protected] (Mark Atwood)                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Malcolm Mladenovic)                                 YYYYYY
Dan McDonald <[email protected]>                                  YYYYYY
[email protected] (Alayne McGregor)                                   NNNNNN
[email protected] (Bert Medley)                          NNNNNN
Martha Gunnarson <[email protected]>                                           YYAYYY
[email protected] (Marc G. Frank)                                     YYYYYY
Magnus Holmberg <[email protected]>                                    YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                  NNNNNN
[email protected] (Michael Shields)        YYYYYY
Martin Merry <[email protected]>                                      YYYYYY
Michael Quinn <[email protected]>                        YYYYYY
[email protected] (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Skip Montanaro)                           YYYYYY
Monty Solomon <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Stephen Cristol)                         YYYYYY
[email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff)                          YYYYYY
Melissa Wauford <[email protected]>                               YYYYYY
Helge Nareid <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                   YYYYYY
John Neuharth <[email protected]>                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jack Carden)                               YYYYYY
Ommund Oegaard <[email protected]>                                    YNNYYN
"M. Otto" <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ogloblin Vladimir)                                 AAAAAY
Peter Craig <[email protected]>                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Pierre Asselin)                                          YYYYYY
[email protected] (Phil Earnhardt)                                        YYYYYY
Frank Wilde <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
Paul Wells <[email protected]>                                  YYYYYY
[email protected]                                              YYYYYY
[email protected] (Phil Hill)                                            YYYYYY
[email protected] (Paul E. Hoffman)                                  YYYYYY
[email protected] (Pierre Uszynski)                        YYYYYY
[email protected] (Peter Ingham)                                  YYYAYA
[email protected] (John Lee)                                               NNNNNN
prc <[email protected]>                                                 NNNNNN
Paul W Schleck KD3FU <[email protected]>                        YYYYYY
Pirawat Watanapongse <[email protected]>                                  YYNYNN
Raphael Manfredi <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
Joshua Randall <[email protected]>                                YYYYYY
ron c carman <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
[email protected] (Richard E. Depew)                                YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                   YYYYYY
Rupert G. Goldie <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Roger H. Brown)                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Richard Pawlowicz)                                NNNNNN
[email protected] (Richard M. Mathews)                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)                        YYYYYY
[email protected] (Patricia O Tuama)                                  NNNNNN
[email protected] (Robert K Nichols)                               YAAAAA
[email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Roger Holst)                                 YYYYYY
"Roger Knobbe" <[email protected]>                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ron Romero)                                       YYYYYY
Eric Rossing <[email protected]>                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Tom Rowan)                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ralph Levan)                                              NNNNNN
[email protected] (Rich Kulawiec)                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Rich Thomson)                                      YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (rodrigo vanegas)                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Rod Whitby)                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Sam Falkner)                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Sarel Lugtenburg)                               YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                       YYYYYY
Saul Tannenbaum <[email protected]>                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Steven Byrnes)                                        YYYYYY
[email protected] (Jan Schloerer)                          YAAYYA
[email protected] (Scott Hazen Mueller)                            YYYYYY
[email protected]                             YYYYYY
[email protected] (Lynda L. True)                               YYYYYY
[email protected] (Simona Nass)                                          YYYYYY
[email protected] (Stephen Joseph Smith)                               YYYYYY
Seth the Lesser <[email protected]>                          NNNNNN
Jason Hunsaker <[email protected]>                                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Wim Slootmans)                                 YAAYYA
Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]>                                 YAAYAN
[email protected] (Spencer Mullen)                            YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Mikael Parknert)                                  YYNNYY
[email protected] (Sridhar Venkataraman)                       YYYYYY
[email protected] (Steve Rogers)                                      YYYYYY
Stefan Linnemann <[email protected]>                   YYYYYY
Stephan Niemz <[email protected]>                               YYYYYY
Stephen Hebditch <[email protected]uk>                           YYYYYY
[email protected] (Stu Labovitz)                                 YYYYYY
David Reeve Sward <[email protected]>                                      YYYYYY
[email protected] (Joe Tam)                                           NNNNNN
[email protected]                                             NNNNNN
Morten Tandle <[email protected]>                                      NNNNNN
[email protected] (Tim Frost)                                        YYYYYY
Timothy VanFosson <[email protected]>                                 YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                         YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ted M A Timar)                                        YYYYYY
[email protected]                                       NNNNNN
[email protected] (Tony Mountifield)                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (Tony DeBari)                                    YYYYYY
Terence P. Ma <[email protected]>                                     YYYYYY
"Tony (T.) Rice" <[email protected]>                                         YYYYYY
[email protected] (Ted "Theodore" W. Leung)                              YYYYYY
Tim Pierce <[email protected]>                                  YYYYYY
[email protected]                                                 YYYYYY
[email protected] (waffle)                                          YAAAAA
[email protected] (Carol Wang)                                     YAAYYY
[email protected]                                                    YYYYYY
[email protected] (Werner Uhrig)                                     YYYYYN
[email protected] (John Werner)                                   YYYYYY
Bill Sommerfeld <[email protected]>                               YYYYYN
[email protected] (Lars Wirzenius)                                YYYYYY
[email protected] (Willem Jan Withagen)                                 YYAAAA
[email protected]                                              YYYYYY
(The Crossjammer) <[email protected]>                           YYYYYY
"Yvonne Y. Yang" <[email protected]>                        YYYYYY

  If your vote is not listed above, or is listed incorrectly, please
let me know as soon as possible.
-- 
Jonathan Kamens                                         [email protected]
Aktis, Inc.                                 Moderator, news.answers

 
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