From [email protected] Thu Mar 24 18:09:35 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Arnt GulbrandsenNewsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.mail.misc Subject: RFD: comp.mail.pine Followup-To: news.groups Date: 23 Mar 1994 17:16:21 -0500 Organization: unit.no Lines: 17 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4826 news.groups:98832 comp.mail.misc:16602 This RFD is for a USENET group to replace or supplant the mailing list [email protected], which currently has too much traffic for a mailing list. There have been several proposals for a USENET group on pine-info during the last year, but nobody's submitted an RFC. I'm doing that now, if the pine-info subscribers are serious, the discussion on news.groups should show a healthy demand for comp.mail.pine. The group would be unmoderated, cover use and development of the Pine mail user agent from Washington University, and take over from [email protected]. I don't know whether it should be gated to that list. If there's any agreement in news.groups that it's a good idea and a proper charter is established, I'll ask Ron Dippold to run the vote. If nobody cares, I'll unsubscribe from the mailing list and forget it. --Arnt From [email protected] Mon Apr 25 14:16:08 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Peter Berger) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc Subject: CFV: comp.mail.pine Followup-To: poster Date: 22 Apr 1994 16:35:27 -0400 Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet Lines: 44 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 14 May 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5002 news.groups:101661 comp.mail.mime:3150 comp.mail.misc:17066 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.mail.pine Newsgroups line: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 May 1994. This CFV will be sent to the pine-info and pine-announce mailing lists. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group contact Arnt Gulbrandsen . CHARTER This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list [email protected]. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.mail.pine I vote NO on comp.mail.pine You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From [email protected] Wed May 4 17:41:59 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Peter Berger) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: CFV: comp.mail.pine Followup-To: poster Date: 2 May 1994 15:12:02 -0400 Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet Lines: 44 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 14 May 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5020 news.groups:102588 comp.mail.mime:3225 comp.mail.misc:17212 comp.mail.elm:14563 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.mail.pine Newsgroups line: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC May 13 1994 This CFV will be sent to the pine-info and pine-announce mailing lists. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group contact Arnt Gulbrandsen . CHARTER This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list [email protected]. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.mail.pine I vote NO on comp.mail.pine You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From [email protected] Mon May 23 15:57:03 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Peter Berger) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: RESULT: comp.mail.pine passes 421:19 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 20 May 1994 14:53:45 -0400 Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet Lines: 510 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5124 news.groups:104423 comp.mail.mime:3337 comp.mail.misc:17594 comp.mail.elm:14822 RESULT unmoderated group comp.mail.pine passes 421:19 There were 421 YES votes and 19 NO votes, for a total of 440 valid votes. There was 1 abstain and 10 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT 16 May 1994 Newsgroups line: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Vote-taker's address: Peter G. Berger, Esq. Group Proponent's address: Arnt Gulbrandsen CHARTER (culled from the Call For Votes) This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list [email protected]. comp.mail.pine Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Alan Agnew [email protected] Stephan De Spiegeleire [email protected] Andrew B. Sweger [email protected] This Space For Rent [email protected] Barry Bouwsma [email protected] Arnt Gulbrandsen [email protected] Andre Lehovich [email protected] Alan Thew [email protected] Alan Brown [email protected] Alan Coopersmith [email protected] Alex Tang [email protected] Amos A. Gouaux [email protected] Andras Salamon [email protected] Andy Behrens [email protected] Andrew MacIntyre [email protected] Gregory J. Atchity [email protected] Jim Ault [email protected] Mr Brian M Bullen [email protected] Howard Barina [email protected] [email protected] Benjamin Chuang [email protected] [email protected] Bryan D. 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Dewey [email protected] Sean M Shaw [email protected] Steven Sietz [email protected] [email protected] Sunjay T. Bedi [email protected] Ted Stern [email protected] Stiela [email protected] Cecilia Stiles [email protected] Mark Strom [email protected] Stuart Hall [email protected] Shui L. Chang [email protected] Kari Sutela [email protected] Sven Olofsson SU/KTH-DSV [email protected] Aaron J. Swiers [email protected] Syd Weinstein [email protected] Andreas Tabbert [email protected] Todd D. Taft [email protected] Rob Levin [email protected] Timothy P. Cheney [email protected] Deborah Teale [email protected] Theerawat HUNGSAPRUEK [email protected] Thacker Mark Douglas [email protected] Thomas Mueller [email protected] Thomas E Taylor [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Tjeerd Jongeling [email protected] Thomas Waterbury Davis [email protected] Tim Pierce [email protected] Robert Niemiec [email protected] Christian Mondrup [email protected] Starlink Software Librarian [email protected] Uwe Ohse [email protected] [email protected] Victor M Mendez [email protected] Ken Weaverling [email protected] Steve Webster [email protected] Bill Feidt [email protected] William Charles [email protected] Willy Evans [email protected] William Mahoney [email protected] Maria Wong [email protected] William Love [email protected] William Salvi [email protected] David DiGioia [email protected] Hynek Med [email protected] Dave Shariff Yadallee [email protected] Yves Pelletier [email protected] PIRKKO YUKES [email protected] Randy Zagar [email protected] Matt Simmons [email protected] Zigmunds Vainers Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA [email protected] [email protected] Anders M Jorgensen [email protected] Michael Chang [email protected] Chris $2.50!!! Jackson [email protected] [email protected] Christopher Ward [email protected] Dan Schlitt [email protected] Olivier Devuns HD0022%[email protected] Chip Dunham [email protected] Ian Jackson [email protected] mary-frances jagod [email protected] John R. MacWilliamson [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] Gary Perdue [email protected] Marc Moorcroft [email protected] Steve Rogers [email protected] Dwight Brown [email protected] Ward F. Bush Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Helmut Tenberg Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Khursh Ahmed ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Ran Atkinson ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Dana Kiehl ! No vote statement in message [email protected] john a curry ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Vivek Khindria ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Michael A. Crowley ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Nick Donaldson ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Paul H Kramer ! No vote statement in message [email protected] ! Invalid address [email protected] Rainer Zimmermann ! Invalid address