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From: Dennis G. Rears 
Subject: RFD:  comp.society.privacy
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   This is a updated Call for Discussion for the creation of a new newsgroup 
with the name:

    comp.society.privacy  

The original CFD went out several months ago.  Most of the comments were
favourable, the only disagreement was whether it should be named
comp.privacy or comp.society.privacy.  Because of the sentiments that were
stated, I am proposing the name to be comp.society.privacy.
  One question that was raised is what the relationship between CSP
and alt.privacy.  There is no relationship between the two groups.  

---------------------Original CFD-----------------------------
  This newsgroup will be moderated and be gatewayed to an Internet
Mailing List.  I propose myself as the Moderator of this newsgroup. I am
currently moderator of the telecom-priv ([email protected])
Internet mailing list.  The telecom-priv mailing list will be folded
into this newsgroup.

   The discussion will center around the effect of technology upon
privacy.  All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as
it presents us with new devices and applications.  Technology can enhance
and detract from privacy.  For example cryptologic methods can enhance
privacy but sophisicated microphones can detract from it. 
   Topics include but are not restricted to:

	o Telecommunications - Caller-Id, ANI, monitoring of 
phones calls (cellear/cordless), tracking people's locations through use of 

	o Cryptology - enhances citizens rights to safeguard their
information.

	o Data Bases - Big Brother is here but it is not just the Govt,
It is also Corporate America.  The advent of mailing lists has now
reach an extremely high level.  Consider the Social Security Number.

	o High Tech Surveillance Devices - ranging for sophisicated (SP) bugs,
viewing devices, and audio devices.

	o The boon in video cameras and private citizens taping events;
e.g. Rodney King episode.  Video as well as Photographic information can
be forged.  

	o  The effect of technology on privacy in the legal arena (e.g
admissibilty in court of items produced by new and old technology).

	o Misc - National Identifier Numbers, Bar coding currency, electronic 
toll devices mounted on Autos, etc.  

  This group is not intended for the overall issue of privacy, (e.g
should a rape victim have their name published).  

  Currently privacy issues are discussed in many newsgroups but only how
the privacy issue affects that one topic.  There is a need for a single
newsgroup.  The Internet mailing list telecom-priv
([email protected]) was created a year ago to discuss
Caller-Id after the that topic was bounced from comp.dcom.telecom.
Telecom-priv was expanded to include all issues of privacy dealing with
telecom equipment.  
   I am proposing that this group be moderated to keep a high signal to
noise ratio.  Moderation of a newgroup means different thing to different
people.  The moderation that I propose will filter out all administrative
requests, test messages, non-tech/privacy items, and excessive flames.
Nothing is censored. 

Dennis
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From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:02:40 1992
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From: "Dennis G. Rears " 
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Subject: RESULT:  comp.society.privacy passes 189:16
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  Voting on comp.society.privacy (Moderated) closed on April 13.  The
newsgroup passed  189 to 16.  My thanks to everyone who voted.
The following is the charter for the group:

comp.society.privacy	Effects of technology on privacy (Moderated)

   This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of
   technology on privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the
   law and society as it presents us with new devices and
   applications.  Technology can enhance and detract from privacy.
   This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailling list.

NO Votes:


Carl Edman 
Otto Tennant 
Harald Nordgard-Hansen 
[email protected]
"Austin G. Hastings" 
Richard Commander 
[email protected]
Michael Peirce 
Christopher Ward 
[email protected]
"Life..." 
Phil Agre 
Timothy VanFosson 
"V. Balaji" 
[email protected]
Carl Rigney 

Yes Votes:

[email protected]
Alan Gilbertson 
[email protected] (Alex Reid)
ALLENS%[email protected]
andrew farmer 
Andrew M. Dunn 
Andy Sherman 
Arthur Rubin 
B. Gabriel Helou 
B.J. 20-Mar-1992 1117 
Barbara Tongue 
Barry Lustig 
Ben Delisle 
Ben Gross 
Bennett Berson 
Berry Mobley 
Bill Seward 
Bill Stewart 
[email protected]
Bob Hofkin 
Bob Peterson 
Bob Yazz 
Brian Barr 
Brian Hanafee 
Brinton Cooper 
Bruce Freeman 
Captain Caveman 
Carl M. Kadie 
Charles Fee 
Charlie Mingo 
Chris Galas 
Conor O'Neill 
Cristy 
Dan Ford 
Daniel Veditz 
Dave Andrews 
Dave Niebuhr, BNL CCD, 516-282-3093 
Dave Walker 
David Deans 
David E. Martin 
David Filiatrault 
David Lesher 
David Muir Sharnoff 
David Partain 
David W. Barts 
David Wald 
[email protected] (Carl A. DeFranco)
[email protected]
Donald H. Locker 
Doug Williams 
Dreamer in the Dark 
Ed Costello 8+296-7079 
Ellen K. Seebacher 
Elliott Parker <[email protected]>
Eric P. Scott 
Erik C. Sowa 
Erik Naggum 
erin smith 
Eugene N. Miya 
Fen Labalme 
FNE683::[email protected]
[email protected]
Gary Ansok 
Gary Heston 
[email protected]
Glenn R. Stone 
GMW0622%[email protected]
Gordon Burditt 
Gordon Jacobson 
Greg Broiles 
Gregory M. Paris 
Gregory W. Edwards 
Henry (H.W.)Troup 
Howard Gayle 
I, Dubious: TAY2-2/M7, DTN 227-3709  1920 
James Nau 
Jamie Mason 
Jared Slosberg 
[email protected] (John Artz)
Jean Ramaekers 
Jeffrey M. Schweiger 
Jeffrey  Porten 
Jim Celoni 
Joe Keane 
John G Dobnick 
John Higdon 
John R. Levine 
John Starta 
John Stracke 
[email protected]
Joseph Albert 
Joseph Albert 
Joseph R. Justice 
Josh Blackman 
Jurgen Botz 
Jyrki Kuoppala 
Kath Mullholand, UNH Telecom, 862-1031 
Kathryn Fielding 
Kelly Derek Deyoe 
Kenny Adams 
[email protected]
Klaus-Peter Kossakowski 
Laird Broadfield 
Laura Kirk 
Les Earnest 
[email protected]
Lloyd Taylor 
[email protected]
Loyd Blankenship 
Marc T. Kaufman 
Mark Atwood 
Mark Cheeseman 
Mark Schuldenfrei 
Mark W. Shumann 
Martha L. Wilson 
Matt Blaze 
Matthew McGehrin 
Maxime Taksar 
[email protected]
Michael E. Adams 
Michael S. Schiffer 
Mick Farmer 
Mike Batchelor 
Mike Batchelor 
Mike Morgan 
Mike Riddle 
[email protected] (Mark P. Neely, Northern Territory University)
Nelson Bolyard 
Nigel Allen 
Norm 
OCEANA::JONGSMA 
[email protected]
Pat Rossiter 
Patty Ericsson 
Peter G. Neumann 
Phil Smyth 
Phil Weiss 
Phil Wherry 
Pierre Dupont 
[email protected]
R. Scott Youmans 
Randall Atkinson 
Randell Jesup 
Ray Kiddy 
Renegade 
[email protected]
Richard H. Miller 
Richard McCombs 
Robert F Spence 
Robert Shvern 
Robert Williams Dobson 
Roger H. Goun 
Roland F. McKenney 
roy 
Roy Hetherington 
Roy M. Silvernail 
[email protected]
Scott Coleman 
Scott Goehring 
Scott J. Kramer 
Sean Colbath 
Sean Petty 
Seth Breidbart 
Stephanie da Silva 
Steve Cisler 
Steve Dever 
Steve Watt -- KD6GGD 
[email protected]
Steven J. Edwards 
Super-User 
SysOp 
s_silverman%[email protected]
Ted Lemon 
Terry Palfrey 
Tim Hruby 
Tim Wood 
timothy shimeall 
Toby Nixon 
Tom Coradeschi 
Uncle Klaus 
Vaillancourt Jean-Francois 
Walter Roberson 
Warren R Carithers 
Wayne Sandrs-Unrein 18-Mar-1992 0929 
[email protected]
William Pfeiffer 
[email protected]
Yaacov Fenster 31-Mar-1992 0739 
Yoram Eisenstadter 

Dennis 
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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:30:41 1992
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From: Dennis G. Rears (FSAC) 
Subject: CFV:  somp.society.privacy moderated
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CALL FOR VOTES TO CREATE NEWSGROUP
----------------------------------

Name:	  comp.society.privacy

Status:   moderator
Moderator:  Dennis Rears 

Charter:  

   This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of
   technology on privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the
   law and society as it presents us with new devices and
   applications.  Technology can enhance and detract from privacy.
   This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailling list.

Votes:

  Votes should be sent to the address:

                     [email protected]

  and may be (but do not have to be) sent by replying to this message.

  Votes should state explicitly whether they are "for" or "against"
  the creation of comp.society.privacy.  Ideally they should contain a
  subject line to the effect of:

   SUBJECT:  I vote YES to comp.society.privacy as proposed
   SUBJECT:  I vote NO to comp.society.privacy as proposed

  The wording does not have to follow these examples precisely but
  it must be unambiguous and unconditional.

  The following will render a vote INVALID:

      - sending it to an address other than the one given above
      - sending it after the voting deadline has passed
      - sending it by a medium other than e-mail
      - posting it to the net
      - qualifying it with a conditional statement such as "I will
        vote for comp.society.privacy provided that..."
      - voting for a proposal with a name or charter other than
        the precise one listed here
      - voting by proxy for someone else

  In the case of duplicate votes from a single user, only the LATEST
  one will be counted.  You may therefore annul a previous vote by
  mailing a new one.

Voting period:

  Votes must arrive at the vote-taker's address before 05:00:00 GMT,
  13 April 1992.

Other information:

  Repeat Calls for Votes and mass acknowledgments of votes received
  to date will be posted periodically during the voting period to
  news.announce.newgroups and  news.groups.

  The final results of the vote will be posted directly after the end
  of the voting period.  In order for comp.society.privacy to be created
  there must be at more "yes" votes then "no" votes AND at least 100 more 
  "yes" votes than "no" votes.


From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:44:36 1995
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Subject: RFD:  comp.society.privacy
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   This is a updated Call for Discussion for the creation of a new newsgroup 
with the name:

    comp.society.privacy  

The original CFD went out several months ago.  Most of the comments were
favourable, the only disagreement was whether it should be named
comp.privacy or comp.society.privacy.  Because of the sentiments that were
stated, I am proposing the name to be comp.society.privacy.
  One question that was raised is what the relationship between CSP
and alt.privacy.  There is no relationship between the two groups.  

---------------------Original CFD-----------------------------
  This newsgroup will be moderated and be gatewayed to an Internet
Mailing List.  I propose myself as the Moderator of this newsgroup. I am
currently moderator of the telecom-priv ([email protected])
Internet mailing list.  The telecom-priv mailing list will be folded
into this newsgroup.

   The discussion will center around the effect of technology upon
privacy.  All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as
it presents us with new devices and applications.  Technology can enhance
and detract from privacy.  For example cryptologic methods can enhance
privacy but sophisicated microphones can detract from it. 
   Topics include but are not restricted to:

	o Telecommunications - Caller-Id, ANI, monitoring of 
phones calls (cellear/cordless), tracking people's locations through use of 

	o Cryptology - enhances citizens rights to safeguard their
information.

	o Data Bases - Big Brother is here but it is not just the Govt,
It is also Corporate America.  The advent of mailing lists has now
reach an extremely high level.  Consider the Social Security Number.

	o High Tech Surveillance Devices - ranging for sophisicated (SP) bugs,
viewing devices, and audio devices.

	o The boon in video cameras and private citizens taping events;
e.g. Rodney King episode.  Video as well as Photographic information can
be forged.  

	o  The effect of technology on privacy in the legal arena (e.g
admissibilty in court of items produced by new and old technology).

	o Misc - National Identifier Numbers, Bar coding currency, electronic 
toll devices mounted on Autos, etc.  

  This group is not intended for the overall issue of privacy, (e.g
should a rape victim have their name published).  

  Currently privacy issues are discussed in many newsgroups but only how
the privacy issue affects that one topic.  There is a need for a single
newsgroup.  The Internet mailing list telecom-priv
([email protected]) was created a year ago to discuss
Caller-Id after the that topic was bounced from comp.dcom.telecom.
Telecom-priv was expanded to include all issues of privacy dealing with
telecom equipment.  
   I am proposing that this group be moderated to keep a high signal to
noise ratio.  Moderation of a newgroup means different thing to different
people.  The moderation that I propose will filter out all administrative
requests, test messages, non-tech/privacy items, and excessive flames.
Nothing is censored. 

Dennis
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