From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 03:07:23 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1815 news.groups:39077 alt.privacy:3224 comp.org.eff.talk:6796 alt.society.civil-liberty:3407 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Dennis G. RearsSubject: RFD: comp.society.privacy Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1992 14:25:35 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 71 This is a updated Call for Discussion for the creation of a new newsgroup with the name: comp.society.privacy The original CFD went out several months ago. Most of the comments were favourable, the only disagreement was whether it should be named comp.privacy or comp.society.privacy. Because of the sentiments that were stated, I am proposing the name to be comp.society.privacy. One question that was raised is what the relationship between CSP and alt.privacy. There is no relationship between the two groups. ---------------------Original CFD----------------------------- This newsgroup will be moderated and be gatewayed to an Internet Mailing List. I propose myself as the Moderator of this newsgroup. I am currently moderator of the telecom-priv ([email protected]) Internet mailing list. The telecom-priv mailing list will be folded into this newsgroup. The discussion will center around the effect of technology upon privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications. Technology can enhance and detract from privacy. For example cryptologic methods can enhance privacy but sophisicated microphones can detract from it. Topics include but are not restricted to: o Telecommunications - Caller-Id, ANI, monitoring of phones calls (cellear/cordless), tracking people's locations through use of o Cryptology - enhances citizens rights to safeguard their information. o Data Bases - Big Brother is here but it is not just the Govt, It is also Corporate America. The advent of mailing lists has now reach an extremely high level. Consider the Social Security Number. o High Tech Surveillance Devices - ranging for sophisicated (SP) bugs, viewing devices, and audio devices. o The boon in video cameras and private citizens taping events; e.g. Rodney King episode. Video as well as Photographic information can be forged. o The effect of technology on privacy in the legal arena (e.g admissibilty in court of items produced by new and old technology). o Misc - National Identifier Numbers, Bar coding currency, electronic toll devices mounted on Autos, etc. This group is not intended for the overall issue of privacy, (e.g should a rape victim have their name published). Currently privacy issues are discussed in many newsgroups but only how the privacy issue affects that one topic. There is a need for a single newsgroup. The Internet mailing list telecom-priv ([email protected]) was created a year ago to discuss Caller-Id after the that topic was bounced from comp.dcom.telecom. Telecom-priv was expanded to include all issues of privacy dealing with telecom equipment. I am proposing that this group be moderated to keep a high signal to noise ratio. Moderation of a newgroup means different thing to different people. The moderation that I propose will filter out all administrative requests, test messages, non-tech/privacy items, and excessive flames. Nothing is censored. Dennis -- Dennis G. Rears MILNET: [email protected] UUCP: ...!uunet!fsac1.pica.army.mil!drears INTERNET: [email protected] USPS: Box 210, Wharton, NJ 07885 Phone(home): 201.927.8757 From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:02:40 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2229 news.groups:48987 alt.privacy:3638 comp.org.eff.talk:7887 alt.society.civil-liberty:4094 Path: uunet!uunet!uunet!not-for-mail From: "Dennis G. Rears " Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty Subject: RESULT: comp.society.privacy passes 189:16 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Apr 1992 12:22:18 -0400 Organization: UUNET Communications Lines: 230 Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: news.UU.NET Voting on comp.society.privacy (Moderated) closed on April 13. The newsgroup passed 189 to 16. My thanks to everyone who voted. The following is the charter for the group: comp.society.privacy Effects of technology on privacy (Moderated) This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of technology on privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications. Technology can enhance and detract from privacy. This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailling list. NO Votes: Carl Edman Otto Tennant Harald Nordgard-Hansen [email protected] "Austin G. Hastings" Richard Commander [email protected] Michael Peirce Christopher Ward [email protected] "Life..." Phil Agre Timothy VanFosson "V. Balaji" [email protected] Carl Rigney Yes Votes: [email protected] Alan Gilbertson [email protected] (Alex Reid) ALLENS%[email protected] andrew farmer Andrew M. Dunn Andy Sherman Arthur Rubin B. Gabriel Helou B.J. 20-Mar-1992 1117 Barbara Tongue Barry Lustig Ben Delisle Ben Gross Bennett Berson Berry Mobley Bill Seward Bill Stewart [email protected] Bob Hofkin Bob Peterson Bob Yazz Brian Barr Brian Hanafee Brinton Cooper Bruce Freeman Captain Caveman Carl M. Kadie Charles Fee Charlie Mingo Chris Galas Conor O'Neill Cristy Dan Ford Daniel Veditz Dave Andrews Dave Niebuhr, BNL CCD, 516-282-3093 Dave Walker David Deans David E. Martin David Filiatrault David Lesher David Muir Sharnoff David Partain David W. Barts David Wald [email protected] (Carl A. DeFranco) [email protected] Donald H. Locker Doug Williams Dreamer in the Dark Ed Costello 8+296-7079 Ellen K. Seebacher Elliott Parker <[email protected]> Eric P. Scott Erik C. Sowa Erik Naggum erin smith Eugene N. Miya Fen Labalme FNE683::[email protected] [email protected] Gary Ansok Gary Heston [email protected] Glenn R. Stone GMW0622%[email protected] Gordon Burditt Gordon Jacobson Greg Broiles Gregory M. Paris Gregory W. Edwards Henry (H.W.)Troup Howard Gayle I, Dubious: TAY2-2/M7, DTN 227-3709 1920 James Nau Jamie Mason Jared Slosberg [email protected] (John Artz) Jean Ramaekers Jeffrey M. Schweiger Jeffrey Porten Jim Celoni Joe Keane John G Dobnick John Higdon John R. Levine John Starta John Stracke [email protected] Joseph Albert Joseph Albert Joseph R. Justice Josh Blackman Jurgen Botz Jyrki Kuoppala Kath Mullholand, UNH Telecom, 862-1031 Kathryn Fielding Kelly Derek Deyoe Kenny Adams [email protected] Klaus-Peter Kossakowski Laird Broadfield Laura Kirk Les Earnest [email protected] Lloyd Taylor [email protected] Loyd Blankenship Marc T. Kaufman Mark Atwood Mark Cheeseman Mark Schuldenfrei Mark W. Shumann Martha L. Wilson Matt Blaze Matthew McGehrin Maxime Taksar [email protected] Michael E. Adams Michael S. Schiffer Mick Farmer Mike Batchelor Mike Batchelor Mike Morgan Mike Riddle [email protected] (Mark P. Neely, Northern Territory University) Nelson Bolyard Nigel Allen Norm OCEANA::JONGSMA [email protected] Pat Rossiter Patty Ericsson Peter G. Neumann Phil Smyth Phil Weiss Phil Wherry Pierre Dupont [email protected] R. Scott Youmans Randall Atkinson Randell Jesup Ray Kiddy Renegade [email protected] Richard H. Miller Richard McCombs Robert F Spence Robert Shvern Robert Williams Dobson Roger H. Goun Roland F. McKenney roy Roy Hetherington Roy M. Silvernail [email protected] Scott Coleman Scott Goehring Scott J. Kramer Sean Colbath Sean Petty Seth Breidbart Stephanie da Silva Steve Cisler Steve Dever Steve Watt -- KD6GGD [email protected] Steven J. Edwards Super-User SysOp s_silverman%[email protected] Ted Lemon Terry Palfrey Tim Hruby Tim Wood timothy shimeall Toby Nixon Tom Coradeschi Uncle Klaus Vaillancourt Jean-Francois Walter Roberson Warren R Carithers Wayne Sandrs-Unrein 18-Mar-1992 0929 [email protected] William Pfeiffer [email protected] Yaacov Fenster 31-Mar-1992 0739 Yoram Eisenstadter Dennis -- MILNET: [email protected] UUCP: ...!uunet!cor5.pica.army.mil!drears INTERNET: [email protected] USPS: Box 210, Wharton, NJ 07885 Phone(home): 201.927.8757 Phone(work): 201.724.2683/(DSN) 880.2683 USPS: SMCAR-FSS-E, Bldg 94, Picatinny Ars, NJ 07806 From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 03:30:41 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1930 news.groups:41149 alt.privacy:3345 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy Path: rpi!think.com!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!europa.asd.contel.com!uunet!bounce-back From: Dennis G. Rears (FSAC) Subject: CFV: somp.society.privacy moderated Followup-To: poster X-Resent-To: comp.dcom.telecom Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Communications Services Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1992 03:47:14 GMT Approved: [email protected] CALL FOR VOTES TO CREATE NEWSGROUP ---------------------------------- Name: comp.society.privacy Status: moderator Moderator: Dennis Rears Charter: This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of technology on privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications. Technology can enhance and detract from privacy. This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailling list. Votes: Votes should be sent to the address: [email protected] and may be (but do not have to be) sent by replying to this message. Votes should state explicitly whether they are "for" or "against" the creation of comp.society.privacy. Ideally they should contain a subject line to the effect of: SUBJECT: I vote YES to comp.society.privacy as proposed SUBJECT: I vote NO to comp.society.privacy as proposed The wording does not have to follow these examples precisely but it must be unambiguous and unconditional. The following will render a vote INVALID: - sending it to an address other than the one given above - sending it after the voting deadline has passed - sending it by a medium other than e-mail - posting it to the net - qualifying it with a conditional statement such as "I will vote for comp.society.privacy provided that..." - voting for a proposal with a name or charter other than the precise one listed here - voting by proxy for someone else In the case of duplicate votes from a single user, only the LATEST one will be counted. You may therefore annul a previous vote by mailing a new one. Voting period: Votes must arrive at the vote-taker's address before 05:00:00 GMT, 13 April 1992. Other information: Repeat Calls for Votes and mass acknowledgments of votes received to date will be posted periodically during the voting period to news.announce.newgroups and news.groups. The final results of the vote will be posted directly after the end of the voting period. In order for comp.society.privacy to be created there must be at more "yes" votes then "no" votes AND at least 100 more "yes" votes than "no" votes. From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:44:36 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1815 news.groups:39077 alt.privacy:3224 comp.org.eff.talk:6796 alt.society.civil-liberty:3407 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Dennis G. Rears Subject: RFD: comp.society.privacy Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1992 14:25:35 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 71 Status: RO X-Status: This is a updated Call for Discussion for the creation of a new newsgroup with the name: comp.society.privacy The original CFD went out several months ago. Most of the comments were favourable, the only disagreement was whether it should be named comp.privacy or comp.society.privacy. Because of the sentiments that were stated, I am proposing the name to be comp.society.privacy. One question that was raised is what the relationship between CSP and alt.privacy. There is no relationship between the two groups. ---------------------Original CFD----------------------------- This newsgroup will be moderated and be gatewayed to an Internet Mailing List. I propose myself as the Moderator of this newsgroup. I am currently moderator of the telecom-priv ([email protected]) Internet mailing list. The telecom-priv mailing list will be folded into this newsgroup. The discussion will center around the effect of technology upon privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications. Technology can enhance and detract from privacy. For example cryptologic methods can enhance privacy but sophisicated microphones can detract from it. Topics include but are not restricted to: o Telecommunications - Caller-Id, ANI, monitoring of phones calls (cellear/cordless), tracking people's locations through use of o Cryptology - enhances citizens rights to safeguard their information. o Data Bases - Big Brother is here but it is not just the Govt, It is also Corporate America. The advent of mailing lists has now reach an extremely high level. Consider the Social Security Number. o High Tech Surveillance Devices - ranging for sophisicated (SP) bugs, viewing devices, and audio devices. o The boon in video cameras and private citizens taping events; e.g. Rodney King episode. Video as well as Photographic information can be forged. o The effect of technology on privacy in the legal arena (e.g admissibilty in court of items produced by new and old technology). o Misc - National Identifier Numbers, Bar coding currency, electronic toll devices mounted on Autos, etc. This group is not intended for the overall issue of privacy, (e.g should a rape victim have their name published). Currently privacy issues are discussed in many newsgroups but only how the privacy issue affects that one topic. There is a need for a single newsgroup. The Internet mailing list telecom-priv ([email protected]) was created a year ago to discuss Caller-Id after the that topic was bounced from comp.dcom.telecom. Telecom-priv was expanded to include all issues of privacy dealing with telecom equipment. I am proposing that this group be moderated to keep a high signal to noise ratio. Moderation of a newgroup means different thing to different people. The moderation that I propose will filter out all administrative requests, test messages, non-tech/privacy items, and excessive flames. Nothing is censored. Dennis -- Dennis G. Rears MILNET: [email protected] UUCP: ...!uunet!fsac1.pica.army.mil!drears INTERNET: [email protected] USPS: Box 210, Wharton, NJ 07885 Phone(home): 201.927.8757