From [email protected] Tue Dec 1 22:33:43 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Lamont Granquist) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology Subject: RFD: sci.med.psychiatry Followup-To: news.groups Date: 1 Dec 1992 22:23:13 -0500 Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime' Lines: 29 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3015 news.groups:62194 sci.med:49786 sci.psychology:10739 Having reviewed the comments, I'm proposing the creation of the above newsgroup, sci.med.psychiatry. Reasons for the name: 1) The alt distribution is limited, and I'd like to welcome more technical discussion to it. 2) A combination neurology + psychiatry newsgroup seems to compose two somewhat seperate fields, and there seems to be enough demand for the psychiatry newsgroup on its own. 3) It (hopefully) would not attract the same frivolous postings that a newsgroup specifying "depression" in the name would. 4) I had to pick something. The group would welcome discussion about any psychiatric disorders -- causes, indications, treatment, research, etc. It should be limited mostly to discussion of conditions treatible with pharmaceuticals, or that might fall under the domain of psychiatry -- other threads should go to sci.psychology. Discussion of the structure of the brain + nervous system that has relevance to psychiatry and psychiatric disorders would be appropriate. Announcement + discussion of new drugs or new applications of old drugs would be something that would be encouraged. And (IMHO) it should be suggested that threads about "Toxic Psychiatry" should either go to the new newsgroup about natural medicine, or sci.med. (Either that or I think we should create talk.politics.psychiatry...=). Okay, I've stuck my neck out with my ideas.... sharpen your cleavers... -- Lamont Granquist [email protected] "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases." -- Robert Anton Wilson From [email protected] Sun Aug 29 22:39:48 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Robert G. Ruegg) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology,bionet.neuroscience,sci.med.pharmacy Subject: RFD: sci.med.psychiatry Followup-To: news.groups Date: 29 Aug 1993 22:33:59 -0400 Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine Lines: 65 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3993 news.groups:80317 sci.med:66490 sci.psychology:14293 bionet.neuroscience:1592 sci.med.pharmacy:318 Creation of the unmoderated group sci.med.psychiatry This is the formal RFD pursuant to prior informal inquiries about how to create this prospective newsgroup. Charter ------- sci.med.psychiatry will be a common forum for discussions and announcements among those interested in such scientific aspects of psychiatry as: -psychobiology, -psychopharmacology, -inheritance of psychiatric illness, -behavioral genetics, -psychoneurobiology, -neuropsychiatry, -neuropsychology, -psychoneuroendocrinology -psychoneuroimmunology -psychosomatics -somatization disorder -psychiatric education and training -research support and funding -research training etc. I personally would like to see the following issues appear in *another forum* in *another hierarchy* since they are not specifically scientific. However, I would not vote against a charter which included them if the majority so wished. -stigma -liaison with the rest of medicine -liaison with the public -government/policy issues -RVBS and other reimbursement issues -etc. Rationale --------- 1) It is tedious and inconvenient to sort through the 500 or so articles which appear on sci.med every few days for the ones related to psychiatry. 2) If a more concentrated and focused gathering of minds can occur, a) we, as a discipline, can more efficiently process and integrate new discoveries and ideas, and b) we may reach a "critical mass" and be capable of generating seminal new ideas in a way not possible elsewhere. Summary ------- (liberally plagiarized and adapted from the postings of Ron Dippold) sci.med.psychiatry will be an important step in linking everyone interested in scientific psychiatry together. Professionals can exchange clinical information, research ideas, news, events, techniques, and get feedback from people interested in psychiatry. Everyone interested in psychiatry can also get up-to-date information about clinical psychiatry, psychiatry research, organized psychiatry gatherings, and more. To accomplish all of these goals with the thousands of psychiatry professionals all over the globe, the creation of sci.med.psychiatry is essential. From [email protected] Tue Oct 5 13:07:23 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Robert G. Ruegg) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology,bionet.neuroscience,sci.med.pharmacy,bit.listserv.psycgrad Subject: RFD: sci.med.psychobiology Followup-To: news.groups Date: 5 Oct 1993 10:23:00 -0400 Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine Lines: 87 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4115 news.groups:83543 sci.med:68795 sci.psychology:14964 bionet.neuroscience:1744 sci.med.pharmacy:547 bit.listserv.psycgrad:10649 Creation of the unmoderated group sci.med.psychobiology This is a revised repost of the RFD posted originally on 8/30/93 about sci.med.psychiatry. In order to minimize overlap with sci.psychology, I am proposing the name of this proposed newsgroup be sci.med.psychobiology. Others have pointed out the overlap problem and have proposed such names as sci.med.psych and sci.med.brain. I understand that sci.med.brain was proposed in the past, but defeated, perhaps because neurology or neurosurgery felt that term overlapped their turf. Therefore this RFD. Cross-posted to: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology, bionet.neuroscience,sci.med.pharmacy,bit.listserve.psycgrad Charter ------- sci.med.psychobiology will be a common forum for discussions and announcements among those interested in such scientific aspects of psychiatry and psychobiology as: -clinical psychiatry, -psychobiology, -psychopharmacology, -inheritance of psychiatric illness, -behavioral genetics, -psychoneurobiology, -neuropsychiatry, -neuropsychology, -psychoneuroendocrinology -psychoneuroimmunology -psychosomatics -somatization disorder -psychiatric education and training -research support and funding -research training etc. I personally would like to see the following issues appear in *another forum* in *another hierarchy* since they are not specifically scientific. However, I would not vote against a charter which included them if the majority so wished. -stigma -liaison with the rest of medicine -liaison with the public -government/policy issues -RVBS and other reimbursement issues -etc. Rationale --------- 1) It is tedious and inconvenient to sort through the 500 or so articles which appear on sci.med every few days for the ones related to psychiatry. 2) If a more concentrated and focused gathering of minds can occur, a) we, as a discipline, can more efficiently process and integrate new discoveries and ideas, and b) we may reach a "critical mass" and be capable of generating seminal new ideas in a way not possible elsewhere. Summary ------- (liberally plagiarized and adapted from the posting of Ron Dippold) sci.med.psychobiology will be an important step in linking everyone interested in scientific psychiatry and psychobiology together. Professionals can exchange clinical information, research ideas, news, events, techniques, and get feedback from people interested in psychiatry. Everyone interested in psychiatry and psychobiology can also get up-to-date information about clinical psychiatry, psychiatric and psychobiological research, organized psychiatric and psychobiological gatherings, and more. To accomplish all of these goals with the thousands of psychiatric and psychobiological professionals all over the globe, the creation of sci.med.psychobiology is essential. Discussion so far: ----------------- sci.med.brain and sci.med.psych have been suggested as alternate titles. Little response to these suggestions so far. 1 or 2 voices in favor of opening the charter to discussion of stigma, liaison, reimbursement, etc. A dozen or 2 positive responses to the original RFD. From [email protected] Fri Nov 5 22:10:37 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology,bionet.neuroscience,sci.med.pharmacy,bit.listserv.psycgrad Subject: CFV: sci.med.psychobiology Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 5 Nov 1993 20:18:17 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 73 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 28 Nov 1993 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID:References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4242 news.groups:86873 sci.med:71044 sci.psychology:15660 bionet.neuroscience:1948 sci.med.pharmacy:764 bit.listserv.psycgrad:11075 1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) Unmoderated group sci.med.psychobiology Newsgroups line: sci.med.psychobiology Dialog and news in psychiatry and psychobiology. Votes must be received by 27 November 1993, 23:59:59 GMT. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only, contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group, contact [email protected] (Robert G. Ruegg). CHARTER sci.med.psychobiology will be an unmoderated common forum for discussions and announcements among those interested in such scientific aspects of psychiatry as: -psychobiology, -psychopharmacology, -inheritance of psychiatric illness, -behavioral genetics, -psychoneurobiology, -neuropsychiatry, -neuropsychology, -psychoneuroendocrinology -psychoneuroimmunology -psychosomatics -somatization disorder -psychiatric education and training -research support and funding -research training etc. STANDARD VOTE FORM You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). The votetaker will send mail acknowledgements for votes that are received. If you receive a correct ack, your vote has been received. If you do not receive an ack after several days, you need to vote again. Recognized votes are Yes, No and Abstain. Capitalization is not important. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters such as ">" that your reply inserts. The votetaker will respond to received ballots with mail acks. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote results. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes are the requirements for group creation. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on sci.med.psychobiology or I vote NO on sci.med.psychobiology You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the complete, correctly spelled group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. Sending in the entire CFV text besides your vote will also confuse the vote counting program. The second CFV will include a list of those whose email acknowledgement bounced. -- Brenda J. Roder ([email protected]) From [email protected] Mon Nov 22 15:38:15 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology,bionet.neuroscience,sci.med.pharmacy,bit.listserv.psycgrad Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.med.psychobiology Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 21 Nov 1993 23:10:06 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 75 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 28 Nov 1993 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4305 news.groups:88349 sci.med:71778 sci.psychology:16050 bionet.neuroscience:2025 sci.med.pharmacy:842 bit.listserv.psycgrad:11384 2nd (LAST) CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) Unmoderated group sci.med.psychobiology Newsgroups line: sci.med.psychobiology Dialog and news in psychiatry and psychobiology. Votes must be received by 27 November 1993, 23:59:59 GMT. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only, contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group, contact [email protected] (Robert G. Ruegg). CHARTER sci.med.psychobiology will be an unmoderated common forum for discussions and announcements among those interested in such scientific aspects of psychiatry as: -psychobiology, -psychopharmacology, -inheritance of psychiatric illness, -behavioral genetics, -psychoneurobiology, -neuropsychiatry, -neuropsychology, -psychoneuroendocrinology -psychoneuroimmunology -psychosomatics -somatization disorder -psychiatric education and training -research support and funding -research training etc. STANDARD VOTE FORM You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). The votetaker will send mail acknowledgements for votes that are received. If you receive a correct ack, your vote has been received. If you do not receive an ack after several days, you need to vote again. Recognized votes are Yes, No and Abstain. Capitalization is not important. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters such as ">" that your reply inserts. The votetaker will respond to received ballots with mail acks. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote results. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes are the requirements for group creation. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on sci.med.psychobiology or I vote NO on sci.med.psychobiology You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the complete, correctly spelled group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. Sending in the entire CFV text besides your vote will also confuse the vote counting program. All votes received have been acknowledged by email. Email acknowledgements of the following votes have bounced: --- NONE --- -- Brenda J. Roder ([email protected]) From [email protected] Tue Nov 30 18:59:12 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,sci.psychology,bionet.neuroscience,sci.med.pharmacy,bit.listserv.psycgrad Subject: RESULT: sci.med.psychobiology passes 217:10 Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 30 Nov 1993 12:58:31 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 330 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] (Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Account) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4337 news.groups:88937 sci.med:72204 sci.psychology:16261 bionet.neuroscience:2052 sci.med.pharmacy:885 bit.listserv.psycgrad:11558 Unmoderated group sci.med.psychobiology sci.med.psychobiology group vote results - 227 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 217 10 : Yes Yes : Yes : sci.med.psychobiology 18 invalid votes This margin is adequate for newgroup creation. Barring serious controversy about the vote, the group will be created five days after this is posted. Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 27 Nov 1993. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Vote-taker's address: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder) Group proponent's address: [email protected] (Robert G. Ruegg) Newsgroups line: sci.med.psychobiology Dialog and news in psychiatry and psychobiology. CHARTER sci.med.psychobiology will be an unmoderated common forum for discussions and announcements among those interested in such scientific aspects of psychiatry as: -psychobiology, -psychopharmacology, -inheritance of psychiatric illness, -behavioral genetics, -psychoneurobiology, -neuropsychiatry, -neuropsychology, -psychoneuroendocrinology -psychoneuroimmunology -psychosomatics -somatization disorder -psychiatric education and training -research support and funding -research training etc. VOTE Asions, aCK ***** Please don't use this voting list to generate a mailing list (neither the yes or no votes) -- voters are not necessarily interested in the topic ***** sci.med.psychobiology group vote Final Vote Ack Yes Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] CRISTIANE LOPES [email protected] BEN-DAVID MICHAEL [email protected] adam fast [email protected] Nigel Allen [email protected] Chris Kingsbury [email protected] poohbear [email protected] Alice Taylor [email protected] Allen Y. Tien [email protected] John Anderson [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Steven Balt [email protected] Bardos Gyorgy [email protected] [email protected] Renzo L. Beltrame [email protected] [email protected] Bryan Fantie [email protected] [email protected] Nancy Perry [email protected] [email protected] Donald Buchanan [email protected] Bill Walther [email protected] Camilla Cracchiolo [email protected] Eleanor Midkiff Charles_Early%[email protected] [email protected] charlie fingerhut [email protected] JAMES CHILDERS [email protected] Chua Hak Lien [email protected] Eric "Wolfie" Katon [email protected] Craig Webster [email protected] Craig Linet [email protected] Stephanie Bradley-Swift [email protected] [email protected] David Dalton [email protected] Daniel Roedding [email protected] Bruce Darby [email protected] Doreen G. Ardourel [email protected] Darryl Troxel [email protected] Jeff Bowen [email protected] [email protected] Deborah Barry [email protected] [email protected] Dmitry M. Davydov [email protected] David M Harmon [email protected] James Donovan [email protected] Dark Phoenix [email protected] Dwarf [email protected] Doug Weldon [email protected] David Brockman Wheeler [email protected] Eli Brandt [email protected] Casey Green [email protected] Gary Schiltz [email protected] Ing. Ernesto Gonzalez [email protected] Elliott G. Smith [email protected] Edward Kelty NIMH [email protected] Eric Luyten [email protected] Ed Arnold [email protected] Edwin R. Yeh [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Robert Finn [email protected] Gregory C Franklin [email protected] David M. Fresco [email protected] Gene Smith [email protected] Gerhard Luecke [email protected] gj student 155431 [email protected] gj student 195270 [email protected] Gregory K Johnson [email protected] Gregory J. Kotwica [email protected] [email protected] John Grohol [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Stephan Heilmayr [email protected] Javier Henderson [email protected] jennifer [email protected] VINCENT W. HEVERN, SJ [email protected] Bob Hill [email protected] Daniel J. Dugan UT/Austin [email protected] [email protected] Irving_Wolfe [email protected] Pierson [email protected] [email protected] James Owens [email protected] Joseph Devlin [email protected] [email protected] Geoff Hammond [email protected] jennifer langdon [email protected] M. Jane Harper [email protected] Jim Lehman [email protected] b.j. mora [email protected] j. adams [email protected] Joel Siegfried [email protected] [email protected] John Sturdy [email protected] [email protected] Judy Scheltema [email protected] John Williams [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] kerry heffner [email protected] [email protected] Kathleen Morgan [email protected] Hilary Naylor [email protected] Martin Schr"oder [email protected] Lara Stables [email protected] Liza Daly [email protected] Lee Thompson-Herbert [email protected] Lynn E. Hanninen [email protected] Lisa M. Holzer [email protected] Elizabeth Knittel [email protected] [email protected] Leslie Kay [email protected] Lonadar the Wanderer [email protected] [email protected] Mary Remington [email protected] Bob Mahoney [email protected] Jukka Mannonen [email protected] Mary Koma [email protected] Matt Ammann - FES [email protected] [email protected] Michelle Benson [email protected] MCCARTHY [email protected] John McCluer [email protected] MICHAEL J. CURRENT [email protected] [email protected] Dr. M.C. Diffin [email protected] phylis austin [email protected] [email protected] Mike Steele [email protected] [email protected] Manish Butte [email protected] Melissa Rhoads Warden [email protected] Matthew T. Adams [email protected] Mike Worden [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Robert G Munro [email protected] Scott A. Oakman [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Brown Robert [email protected] Scott Brian Wayne [email protected] Penny Padgett [email protected] Paul Barrett [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Craig Linet [email protected] Paul Hodgkinson [email protected] [email protected] Phil Chamberlin [email protected] Pauline L MacDonald [email protected] Pedro Mendes [email protected] Kathleen A. Kotwica [email protected] Greg Gallacci [email protected] [email protected] Michael J. Quinn [email protected] [email protected] Rainer Zwisler x3835 [email protected] Rami Hanegbi [email protected] Gary Rashkov [email protected] Redzlan AR [email protected] Alan Rees [email protected] Sendhil Revuluri [email protected] Rich Mintz [email protected] Robin Sowton [email protected] David Anthony Rotolo [email protected] Dale Morris [email protected] Ryan Robbins [email protected] Robert G. Ruegg [email protected] [email protected] Mike Berger [email protected] SCOGS [email protected] Steven Roy Daviss [email protected] Mr. Richard Seabrook [email protected] ROBERT SEKULER [email protected] [email protected] Sandra Serafini [email protected] Sean Erwin [email protected] Sheila K. H. [email protected] Juan A. Siguenza [email protected] Robert L. Simmons [email protected] Janne Sinkkonen [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Sarah Skovronsky [email protected] Todd I. Stark @PHH 10-Nov-1993 1650 [email protected] Stef Jones [email protected] Mehmet Surav [email protected] Rodney A. Swain [email protected] Sascha Wildner [email protected] Michael Wagner [email protected] Steven Zikopoulos [email protected] thomas d. ewing [email protected] Matthew D. THOMPSON [email protected] Timo Rinne [email protected] Tom Holroyd [email protected] Terence P. Ma [email protected] thomas W martin [email protected] Jennifer Beth Unger [email protected] [email protected] PHIL D WANN [email protected] Wayne F. Phillips, M.D [email protected] William Ching [email protected] John Werner [email protected] wilsonj [email protected] Will Nelson [email protected] Sabine Wolf [email protected] Robert J. Woll [email protected] Yukiharu Hadeishi [email protected] [email protected] Zoltan Schreter [email protected] Eric Zorrilla No Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] David Cameron [email protected] Sean P Ryan [email protected] John "Fax This!" MacWilliamson [email protected] Michael Kisley [email protected] Rob Knauerhase [email protected] paul alukal [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Shane Hartman [email protected] Smarasderagd [email protected] Warren Lavallee Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Matthew Simpson ! No votes [email protected] ! Conflicting votes [email protected] ! Conflicting votes [email protected] ! Conflicting votes [email protected] ! No votes [email protected] ! No votes [email protected] jean l siebert ! No votes [email protected] Melvyn King ! No votes [email protected] Francis E. Lotrich ! No votes [email protected] David M. Pfarrer ! No votes [email protected] Theo Bogels ! No votes [email protected] Michael P. Weisend ! No votes [email protected] ! No votes [email protected] sherry lacoursiere ! No votes [email protected] Dark Mage ! Conflicting votes [email protected] D.J. Stehouwer ! No votes [email protected] The TARDIS ! Invalid address [email protected] Tim Bates ! No votes -- Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])