From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 02:26:24 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,misc.forsale,misc.wanted,misc.taxes,misc.consumers.house From: [email protected] (Arnold Goldberg) Subject: RFD: misc.invest.realestate Followup-To: news.groups Organization: Computer Science Department/ University of Florida Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 05:03:00 GMT The subject says it all: I want to create a new (unmoderated) newsgroup. The name of the newsgroup will be misc.invest.realestate The charter would (partially) consist of : 1) Share creative financing techniques. 2) Share information regarding aggressive tax avoidance. 3) Share "inside" information regarding mortgage applications (ie. what do mortgage companies want to see and what not) 4) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 5) A source of partnerships. 6) Any general real estate questions. 7) And any others you might think of. I started a mailing list few weeks back , and already have 50 subscribers. This is my first attempt at doing this, so be kind :) Thanks Arnold -- #include***************************************************************** * Arnold Goldberg IP: [email protected] * ***************************************************************** From [email protected] Tue May 5 12:06:02 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2288 news.groups:50331 misc.invest:25801 misc.wanted:26735 misc.forsale:60793 misc.consumers.house:31800 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,misc.wanted,misc.forsale,misc.consumers.house Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Arnold Goldberg) Subject: CFV: misc.invest.real-estate Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 15:54:38 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 45 Name: misc.invest.real-estate Status: Unmoderated Charter: The charter initially would consist of but not be limited to: 1) Share creative financing techniques. 2) Share information regarding aggressive tax avoidance (not evasion!). 3) Share "inside" information regarding mortgage applications (ie. what do mortgage companies want to see and what not) 4) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 4) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 5) A source of partnerships. 6) Any general real estate questions. 7) Discussion of rental management techniques. Voting Procedure: send mail message to ( you should just be able to reply to this article) [email protected] with a body of either YES or NO Format does not have to be exact, but this method makes vote tabulation much easier. Voting Period will be from 5/5/92 11:00 AM EST to 6:00 PM EST 6/5/92 Thanks, Arnold -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Arnold Goldberg Email: [email protected] Phone: (407)242-5051 Snail: Harris Corporation Fax : (407)242-4268 407 John Rodes Blvd. From [email protected] Fri May 15 17:59:56 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2350 news.groups:51020 misc.invest:26095 misc.wanted:26976 misc.forsale:61524 misc.consumers.house:32081 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,misc.wanted,misc.forsale,misc.consumers.house Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Arnold Goldberg) Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: misc.invest.real-estate Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 16:13:51 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 153 Name: misc.invest.real-estate Status: Unmoderated Charter: The charter initially would consist of but not be limited to: 1) Share creative financing techniques. 2) Share information regarding aggressive tax avoidance (not evasion!). 3) Share "inside" information regarding mortgage applications (ie. what do mortgage companies want to see and what not) 4) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 4) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 5) A source of partnerships. 6) Any general real estate questions. 7) Discussion of rental management techniques. Voting Procedure: send mail message to ( you should just be able to reply to this article) [email protected] with a body of either YES or NO Format does not have to be exact, but this method makes vote tabulation much easier. Voting Period will be from 5/5/92 11:00 AM EST to 6:00 PM EST 6/5/92 A list of the current votes follows: 1 [email protected] (???) 2 Joel Harris Glickman 3 [email protected] (Greg Jensenworth) 4 [email protected] (Stanley Anderson) 5 [email protected] (Don Robinson) 6 [email protected] (Francois-Michel Lang) 7 [email protected] (maribel tan) 8 [email protected] (Steven G. Marcie) 9 [email protected] (Phil Pardo) 10 [email protected] (Alvin Oga) 11 [email protected] (Alec Yin) 12 [email protected] (Dave Mentis) 13 From rare places come rare experiences. 23-Apr-1992 1240 14 [email protected](Sendhil Revuluri) 15 [email protected] (Scott Bayles) 16 "Jacqueline A. Giles" 18 (Arthur P. Goldberg) 19 "Laura Kramer" 20 Rajiv Gupta 21 [email protected] (Larry Martell) 22 [email protected] (Bruce Mortland) 23 [email protected] (Raymond Wu) 25 [email protected] 26 Yaakov Kayman 27 Paul Krause CIRT 28 Wesley Zottman 29 Bill Sears 30 [email protected] (Van Jeng) 31 [email protected] (Ryan Waldron) 32 [email protected] 33 "Andrew V. Curtis" 34 [email protected] 35 "Abhijit Gupta, Product Engineer, HLO1-1/Q10, DTN 225-5774 05-May-1992 1341" 36 John Pates 37 Jack Previdi DTN 275-2106 DAS1-1/B27 38 "Laura Kramer" 39 [email protected] (Chin-Ming Kuo) 40 [email protected] 41 [email protected] 42 [email protected] (George S. Kong) 43 [email protected] (Joe Farrenkopf) 44 [email protected] (Tammy Roncadori - Administrator Sun Washington D.C.) 45 [email protected] (Thomas Arneberg) 46 [email protected] (John Federkins) 47 [email protected] (Dave Mentis) 48 [email protected] (Naresh Sehgal ~) 49 [email protected] 50 [email protected] (Dwight Leu [CONTRACTOR]) 51 Andy Malis 52 [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) 53 [email protected] 54 Stuart S Goldstone 55 [email protected] 55 [email protected] 56 Bob Sloan 57 [email protected] (Tolg Kuru) 58 [email protected] (Andrew R. Nicholson) 59 [email protected] 60 [email protected] (Randell Jesup) 61 [email protected] 62 Alec Yin 63 "BIG AL 924/Porsche" 64 [email protected] (THOMPSON, MARTHA CHERYL) 65 [email protected] 66 [email protected] (Alec Yin) 67 [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt) 68 [email protected] (Henry Benson) 69 [email protected] (Lost Chord) 70 [email protected] (Brad Smith) 71 Gantt Edmiston 72 Lyndon Siu 73 [email protected] (Bakul Lalla) 74 Semyon Dukach 75 [email protected] 76 [email protected] 77 [email protected] 78 [email protected] (Larry Martell) 79 [email protected] (Larry Morley) 80 Zia-ur Rahman 81 Gary Blumenstein 82 [email protected] (Edwin D. Moore) 83 [email protected] 84 [email protected] (Susan E. Shoaf) 85 [email protected] (Sivasankar Palleti) 86 [email protected] (Thomas M. Hundt) 87 [email protected] (Frank Kaefer) 88 [email protected] (Ron Guilmette) 89 "Asif Taiyabi" 90 [email protected] (Deborah Ann Brooks) 90:X-Really-From: Adam R. Grossman 91 [email protected] 92 [email protected] (Sasha Velednitsky) 93 [email protected] (Steve Zhang) 94 [email protected] (William Moxley) 95 [email protected] (Michael J. Eager) 96 [email protected] (Edward Bertsch) 97 [email protected] (Jeffrey A. Davie) 98 [email protected] (Bill Ehlke) 99 [email protected] (Steve Jeske) 100 L. Merrill Palmer 101 dbrown%[email protected] (Don Brown) 102 [email protected] (Jeffrey L David) 103 [email protected] (Devonne L Moore) 104 [email protected] (John M. Blasik) thanks arnold -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Arnold Goldberg Email: [email protected] Phone: (407)242-5051 Snail: Harris Corporation Fax : (407)242-4268 407 John Rodes Blvd. From [email protected] Mon Jun 22 14:12:43 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,NEWS.GROUPS Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Arnold Goldberg) Subject: RESULT: misc.invest.real-estate passes 148: 26 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Harris Corporation, Melbourne, Florida Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1992 15:36:48 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 197 misc.invest.real-estate passes 148 yes to 26 no. The charter initially consists of: 1) Any general real estate questions. 2) Share information regarding aggressive tax avoidance (not evasion!). 3) Share creative financing techniques. 4) Share "inside" information regarding mortgage applications (ie. what do mortgage companies want to see and what not) 5) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 6) A source of partnerships. 7) Discussion of rental management techniques. The list of YES and then NO voters follows: YES------ 1: [email protected] (???) 2: Joel Harris Glickman 3: [email protected] (Greg Jensenworth) 4: [email protected] (Stanley Anderson) 5: [email protected] (Don Robinson) 6: [email protected] (Francois-Michel Lang) 7: [email protected] (maribel tan) 8: [email protected] (Steven G. Marcie) 9: [email protected] (Phil Pardo) 10: [email protected] (Alvin Oga) 11: [email protected] (Alec Yin) 12: [email protected] (Dave Mentis) 13: From rare places come rare experiences. 23-Apr-1992 1240 14: [email protected](Sendhil Revuluri) 15: [email protected] (Scott Bayles) 16: "Jacqueline A. Giles" 18: (Arthur P. Goldberg) 19: "Laura Kramer" 20: Rajiv Gupta 21: [email protected] (Larry Martell) 22: [email protected] (Bruce Mortland) 23: [email protected] (Raymond Wu) 25: [email protected] 26: Yaakov Kayman 27: Paul Krause CIRT 28: Wesley Zottman 29: Bill Sears 30: [email protected] (Van Jeng) 31: [email protected] (Ryan Waldron) 32: [email protected] 33: "Andrew V. Curtis" 34: [email protected] 35: "Abhijit Gupta, Product Engineer, HLO1-1/Q10, DTN 225-5774 05-May-1992 1341" 36: John Pates 37: Jack Previdi DTN 275-2106 DAS1-1/B27 38: "Laura Kramer" 39: [email protected] (Chin-Ming Kuo) 40: [email protected] 41: [email protected] 42: [email protected] (George S. Kong) 43: [email protected] (Joe Farrenkopf) 44: [email protected] (Tammy Roncadori - Administrator Sun Washington D.C.) 45: [email protected] (Thomas Arneberg) 46: [email protected] (John Federkins) 47: [email protected] (Dave Mentis) 48: [email protected] (Naresh Sehgal ~) 49: [email protected] 50: [email protected] (Dwight Leu [CONTRACTOR]) 51: Andy Malis 52: [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) 53: [email protected] 54: Stuart S Goldstone 55: [email protected] 55: [email protected] 56: Bob Sloan 57: [email protected] (Tolg Kuru) 58: [email protected] (Andrew R. Nicholson) 59: [email protected] 60: [email protected] (Randell Jesup) 61: [email protected] 62: Alec Yin 63: "BIG AL 924/Porsche" 64: [email protected] (THOMPSON, MARTHA CHERYL) 65: [email protected] 66: [email protected] (Alec Yin) 67: [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt) 68: [email protected] (Henry Benson) 69: [email protected] (Lost Chord) 70: [email protected] (Brad Smith) 71: Gantt Edmiston 72: Lyndon Siu 73: [email protected] (Bakul Lalla) 74: Semyon Dukach 75: [email protected] 76: [email protected] 77: [email protected] 78: [email protected] (Larry Martell) 79: [email protected] (Larry Morley) 80: Zia-ur Rahman 81: Gary Blumenstein 82: [email protected] (Edwin D. Moore) 83: [email protected] 84: [email protected] (Susan E. Shoaf) 85: [email protected] (Sivasankar Palleti) 86: [email protected] (Thomas M. Hundt) 87: [email protected] (Frank Kaefer) 88: [email protected] (Ron Guilmette) 89: "Asif Taiyabi" 90: [email protected] (Deborah Ann Brooks) 90:X-Really- Adam R. Grossman 91: [email protected] 92: [email protected] (Sasha Velednitsky) 93: [email protected] (Steve Zhang) 94: [email protected] (William Moxley) 95: [email protected] (Michael J. Eager) 96: [email protected] (Edward Bertsch) 97: [email protected] (Jeffrey A. Davie) 98: [email protected] (Bill Ehlke) 99: [email protected] (Steve Jeske) 100: L. Merrill Palmer 101: dbrown%[email protected] (Don Brown) 102: [email protected] (Jeffrey L David) 103: [email protected] (Devonne L Moore) 104: [email protected] (John M. Blasik) 105: [email protected] (David Doermann) 106: [email protected] (Jack Costanza) 107: [email protected] (Greg Jensenworth) 108: (Arthur P. Goldberg) 109: [email protected] (Steve Davis) 110: [email protected] (Gregory Sharp) 111: [email protected] (Ron Bauer) 112: [email protected] (Michael Butts) 113: [email protected] (Mark Marsan) 114: [email protected] (Tom J Farish) 115: [email protected] (Bapcha / PROM) 116: [email protected] 117: "Robert J. Drabek" 118: vicumpriya perera 119: [email protected] (HO Butschky michael t (3410) 497-2639) 120: [email protected] (Andy Brager) 121: [email protected] (Bakul Lalla) 122: [email protected] (Edward Lewis IV) 123: zevpeter@chen (Bill Peter) 124: Chris Neimann 125: [email protected] (Rod Henry) 126: [email protected] (Lost Chord) 127: [email protected] (Raymond Wu) 128: [email protected] 129: [email protected] (Bill Ehlke) 130: Tim Hagman (lbs) 131: [email protected] (R. P. White) 132: [email protected] (John Hester) 133: Tom Limoncelli 134: [email protected] (Ruth White) 135: [email protected] (Greg Fox) 136: [email protected] 137: Irving_Wolfe 138: Deborah Wilbert 139: [email protected] (Shanti Sankararaman) 140: [email protected] (Jeffrey Lee) 141: [email protected] (K.Y. Tan) 142: "TITCHENAL H A" 143: "Dr. David Matthews, IPST, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, 144: Neal C. Wyse 145: mariano ballera jr 146: [email protected] (Norman Ma) 147: [email protected] (Venkates Swaminathan) 148: [email protected] (Wes Kranitz 4-6857 MRCE) NO----- 1: [email protected] (Yong Choong) 2: "Rebecca Sims" 3: [email protected] (Fred Douglis) 4: Ken Yousten 5: [email protected] (Oceager Pyng-Shih Yee) 6: Stavros Macrakis 7: Arne Henrik Juul 8: [email protected] (Bill Owens) 9: Tall Cool One 10: Bob Billson 11: Tom Fitzgerald 12: Stupendous Man 13: Stavros Macrakis 14: [email protected] 15: Tim Ihde 16: [email protected] (Joel Plutchak) 17: [email protected] (Jim Davidson) 18: [email protected] (Ralph Clark) 19: John G Dobnick 20: Roland Kaltefleiter 21: [email protected] (Malcolm Austin) 22: [email protected] (Tom Albrecht) 23: [email protected] (Real life? Ha!) 24: Ian Crorie 25: [email protected] (Henry Kingdon) 26: [email protected] (Cory Kempf) -- Arnold Goldberg Email: [email protected] Phone: (407)242-5051 Snail: Harris Corporation Fax : (407)242-4262 407 John Rodes Blvd. Melbourne, FL 32905 From [email protected] Wed Jun 24 17:16:49 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2467 news.groups:53259 misc.invest:27290 misc.wanted:27858 misc.forsale:64791 misc.consumers.house:33461 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,misc.wanted,misc.forsale,misc.consumers.house Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Arnold Goldberg) Subject: RESULT: misc.invest.real-estate passes 148: 26 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Harris Corporation, Melbourne, Florida Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 20:17:12 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 200 [ This message is being reposted because the original was cancelled soon after it first appeared. --tale ] misc.invest.real-estate passes 148 yes to 26 no. The charter initially consists of: 1) Any general real estate questions. 2) Share information regarding aggressive tax avoidance (not evasion!). 3) Share creative financing techniques. 4) Share "inside" information regarding mortgage applications (ie. what do mortgage companies want to see and what not) 5) Keep a updated list of "exchangable" properties (see objective 2) 6) A source of partnerships. 7) Discussion of rental management techniques. The list of YES and then NO voters follows: YES------ 1: [email protected] (???) 2: Joel Harris Glickman 3: [email protected] (Greg Jensenworth) 4: [email protected] (Stanley Anderson) 5: [email protected] (Don Robinson) 6: [email protected] (Francois-Michel Lang) 7: [email protected] (maribel tan) 8: [email protected] (Steven G. Marcie) 9: [email protected] (Phil Pardo) 10: [email protected] (Alvin Oga) 11: [email protected] (Alec Yin) 12: [email protected] (Dave Mentis) 13: From rare places come rare experiences. 23-Apr-1992 1240 14: [email protected](Sendhil Revuluri) 15: [email protected] (Scott Bayles) 16: "Jacqueline A. Giles" 18: (Arthur P. Goldberg) 19: "Laura Kramer" 20: Rajiv Gupta 21: [email protected] (Larry Martell) 22: [email protected] (Bruce Mortland) 23: [email protected] (Raymond Wu) 25: [email protected] 26: Yaakov Kayman 27: Paul Krause CIRT 28: Wesley Zottman 29: Bill Sears 30: [email protected] (Van Jeng) 31: [email protected] (Ryan Waldron) 32: [email protected] 33: "Andrew V. Curtis" 34: [email protected] 35: "Abhijit Gupta, Product Engineer, HLO1-1/Q10, DTN 225-5774 05-May-1992 1341" 36: John Pates 37: Jack Previdi DTN 275-2106 DAS1-1/B27 38: "Laura Kramer" 39: [email protected] (Chin-Ming Kuo) 40: [email protected] 41: [email protected] 42: [email protected] (George S. Kong) 43: [email protected] (Joe Farrenkopf) 44: [email protected] (Tammy Roncadori - Administrator Sun Washington D.C.) 45: [email protected] (Thomas Arneberg) 46: [email protected] (John Federkins) 47: [email protected] (Dave Mentis) 48: [email protected] (Naresh Sehgal ~) 49: [email protected] 50: [email protected] (Dwight Leu [CONTRACTOR]) 51: Andy Malis 52: [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) 53: [email protected] 54: Stuart S Goldstone 55: [email protected] 55: [email protected] 56: Bob Sloan 57: [email protected] (Tolg Kuru) 58: [email protected] (Andrew R. Nicholson) 59: [email protected] 60: [email protected] (Randell Jesup) 61: [email protected] 62: Alec Yin 63: "BIG AL 924/Porsche" 64: [email protected] (THOMPSON, MARTHA CHERYL) 65: [email protected] 66: [email protected] (Alec Yin) 67: [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt) 68: [email protected] (Henry Benson) 69: [email protected] (Lost Chord) 70: [email protected] (Brad Smith) 71: Gantt Edmiston 72: Lyndon Siu 73: [email protected] (Bakul Lalla) 74: Semyon Dukach 75: [email protected] 76: [email protected] 77: [email protected] 78: [email protected] (Larry Martell) 79: [email protected] (Larry Morley) 80: Zia-ur Rahman 81: Gary Blumenstein 82: [email protected] (Edwin D. Moore) 83: [email protected] 84: [email protected] (Susan E. Shoaf) 85: [email protected] (Sivasankar Palleti) 86: [email protected] (Thomas M. Hundt) 87: [email protected] (Frank Kaefer) 88: [email protected] (Ron Guilmette) 89: "Asif Taiyabi" 90: [email protected] (Deborah Ann Brooks) 90:X-Really- Adam R. Grossman 91: [email protected] 92: [email protected] (Sasha Velednitsky) 93: [email protected] (Steve Zhang) 94: [email protected] (William Moxley) 95: [email protected] (Michael J. Eager) 96: [email protected] (Edward Bertsch) 97: [email protected] (Jeffrey A. Davie) 98: [email protected] (Bill Ehlke) 99: [email protected] (Steve Jeske) 100: L. Merrill Palmer 101: dbrown%[email protected] (Don Brown) 102: [email protected] (Jeffrey L David) 103: [email protected] (Devonne L Moore) 104: [email protected] (John M. Blasik) 105: [email protected] (David Doermann) 106: [email protected] (Jack Costanza) 107: [email protected] (Greg Jensenworth) 108: (Arthur P. Goldberg) 109: [email protected] (Steve Davis) 110: [email protected] (Gregory Sharp) 111: [email protected] (Ron Bauer) 112: [email protected] (Michael Butts) 113: [email protected] (Mark Marsan) 114: [email protected] (Tom J Farish) 115: [email protected] (Bapcha / PROM) 116: [email protected] 117: "Robert J. Drabek" 118: vicumpriya perera 119: [email protected] (HO Butschky michael t (3410) 497-2639) 120: [email protected] (Andy Brager) 121: [email protected] (Bakul Lalla) 122: [email protected] (Edward Lewis IV) 123: zevpeter@chen (Bill Peter) 124: Chris Neimann 125: [email protected] (Rod Henry) 126: [email protected] (Lost Chord) 127: [email protected] (Raymond Wu) 128: [email protected] 129: [email protected] (Bill Ehlke) 130: Tim Hagman (lbs) 131: [email protected] (R. P. White) 132: [email protected] (John Hester) 133: Tom Limoncelli 134: [email protected] (Ruth White) 135: [email protected] (Greg Fox) 136: [email protected] 137: Irving_Wolfe 138: Deborah Wilbert 139: [email protected] (Shanti Sankararaman) 140: [email protected] (Jeffrey Lee) 141: [email protected] (K.Y. Tan) 142: "TITCHENAL H A" 143: "Dr. David Matthews, IPST, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, 144: Neal C. Wyse 145: mariano ballera jr 146: [email protected] (Norman Ma) 147: [email protected] (Venkates Swaminathan) 148: [email protected] (Wes Kranitz 4-6857 MRCE) NO----- 1: [email protected] (Yong Choong) 2: "Rebecca Sims" 3: [email protected] (Fred Douglis) 4: Ken Yousten 5: [email protected] (Oceager Pyng-Shih Yee) 6: Stavros Macrakis 7: Arne Henrik Juul 8: [email protected] (Bill Owens) 9: Tall Cool One 10: Bob Billson 11: Tom Fitzgerald 12: Stupendous Man 13: Stavros Macrakis 14: [email protected] 15: Tim Ihde 16: [email protected] (Joel Plutchak) 17: [email protected] (Jim Davidson) 18: [email protected] (Ralph Clark) 19: John G Dobnick 20: Roland Kaltefleiter 21: [email protected] (Malcolm Austin) 22: [email protected] (Tom Albrecht) 23: [email protected] (Real life? Ha!) 24: Ian Crorie 25: [email protected] (Henry Kingdon) 26: [email protected] (Cory Kempf) -- Arnold Goldberg Email: [email protected] Phone: (407)242-5051 Snail: Harris Corporation Fax : (407)242-4262 407 John Rodes Blvd. Melbourne, FL 32905