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From [email protected] Tue Dec  2 17:45:07 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Chris Sprenke <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.marketplace,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.dc.universe Subject: RFD: rec.arts.comics.marketplace reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.marketplace-reorg2 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 01:41:47 GMT Lines: 105 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:997                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)        unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.goldsilver        unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.bronze-80s      unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.nineties-2000           unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.sets       unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.masslistings  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of 5 new unmoderated usenet groups. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup lines: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.bronze-80s	Buying/selling bronze age (80s) comics. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.goldsilver	Buying/selling gold and silver age. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.masslistings	Mass lists of comics. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.nineties-2000	Buying/selling 1990s+ comics. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.sets	Buying/selling sets of comics.  RATIONALE: all groups  rec.arts.comics.marketplace is a meeting place for buyers and sellers of comics to buy and sell comics.  It is currently very busy and time consuming to browse due to the wide scope of the billions of comics available. The creation of 5 new, more specific newsgroups will allow buyers to find the sort of comics they are interested in more quickly without needlessly sifting through thousands of comics unrelated to their particular interests.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.goldsilver  Golden Age and Silver Age comics are bought and sold here. Posts should be 100 percent on topic. Comics from the other eras should never be posted here.  Reprints should not be posted here unless they were printed during the era.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.bronze-80s  Comics from the seventies and eightie's are bought and sold here. Posts should be 85-90 percent on topic. A few off topic comics could be present if the majority of the comics contained in the post are of the correct era.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.nineties-2000  Comics from the 1990's to the year 2000 and beyond are bought and sold here.  Posts should be loosely 65 percent on topic.This group allows for much more miscellany.  If a post is totally miscellaneous, post it under masslistings.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.sets  Comics are bought and sold here in the form of sets, lots, and runs with individual pricing discouraged. Graphic Novels and Trade Paperbacks may also be listed here  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.masslistings  Comics are bought and sold here. This newsgroup is reserved for the more miscellaneous and/or massive and/or user unfriendly posts. List 5000 issue comic collections here as well as A-Z lists or anything that doesn't fit elsewhere. Auctions should also go here.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: all groups  Do not crosspost. Pick one group for each post.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.arts.comics.marketplace, rec.arts.comics.misc, rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe, rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks, rec.arts.comics.dc.universe  Proponent: Chris Sprenke <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Thu Dec  4 15:30:04 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Chris Sprenke <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.marketplace,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.info Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.arts.comics.marketplace reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.marketplace-reorg2 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 23:18:25 GMT Lines: 98 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:1008                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)       unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.gold+silver    unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.post-silver.indies unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.post-silver (renames rec.arts.comics.marketplace)  CHANGES from previous RFD:  The previous RFD was disliked by everyone. Not one person expressed anything but negative vibe towards this RFDs previous state. So...it has been totally revised. Not much of anything is the same as it was before.  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of 2 new unmoderated usenet groups and the renaming of another. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup lines: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.gold+silver	Buying/selling gold and silver age. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.post-silver	Buying/selling post silver age. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.post-silver.indies	Buying/selling indies.  RATIONALE: all groups  rec.arts.comics.marketplace is a meeting place for buyers and sellers of comics to buy and sell comics.  It is currently very busy and time consuming to browse due to the wide scope of the billions of comics available. The creation of 2 new, more specific newsgroups and the renaming of another will allow buyers to find the sort of comics they are interested in more quickly without needlessly sifting through thousands of comics unrelated to their particular interests.  Currently, rac.m gets an average of 300 posts per day. With the gold+silver posts gone, this should go down to 230 or so and with the indies taken out, hopefully, the number of daily posts will get down under 200.  These numbers are based on a quick survey of rac.m conducted by the proponent of this proposal that has a huge margin of error. He went to dejanews and found for 5 randomly picked days, nov 17-21 of 1997, 1742 messages were posted total and of these ... 154 were auctions 83 were sets 86 were wanted to buy posts 206 were gold/silver related 206 were independent publisher (not marvel or DC) related 283 were marvel related 246 were DC related Half of the posts were unaccounted for.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.gold+silver  Golden Age and Silver Age comics are bought and sold here. These are comics published around 1970 and before.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.post-silver  Comics published by Marvel and DC from the early 1970s to the present day are bought and sold here.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.post-silver.indies  Comics published by publishers independent of marvel and DC from the early 1970s to the present day are bought and sold here.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.arts.comics.marketplace, rec.arts.comics.misc, rec.arts.comics.info  Proponent: Chris Sprenke <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Tue Apr  7 04:30:25 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Chris Sprenke <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.marketplace Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.arts.comics.marketplace reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.marketplace-reorg2 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:28:27 GMT Lines: 82 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9930 news.groups:277752 rec.arts.comics.marketplace:200145                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)         unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.pre-1970        unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.1970-1989 unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.marketplace.current (renames rec.arts.comics.marketplace)  CHANGES from previous RFD:  The indies group has been killed and a current group has been substituted. The distribution has been increased. All the group names have been changed.  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of 2 new unmoderated usenet groups and the renaming of another. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup lines: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.1970-1989	Buying/selling dating 1970-1989. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.current	Buying/selling recent comics. rec.arts.comics.marketplace.pre-1970	Buying/selling gold and silver age.  RATIONALE: all groups  rec.arts.comics.marketplace is a meeting place for buyers and sellers of comics to buy and sell comics.  It is currently very busy and time consuming to browse due to the wide scope of the billions of comics available. The creation of 2 new, more specific newsgroups and the renaming of another will allow buyers to find the sort of comics they are interested in more quickly without needlessly sifting through thousands of comics unrelated to their particular interests.  Currently, rac.m gets an average of 250-300 posts per day. A split is necessary. The pre-1970 group would get about 20 percent of this traffick while the other two groups; rac.m.1970-1989 and rac.m.current would share the remaining traffick at 40 percent each.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.pre-1970  Golden Age and Silver Age comics are bought and sold here. These are comics published around 1970 and before.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.1970-1989  Comics published from the years 1970-1989 are bought and sold here.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.marketplace.current  Recently published comics that do not belong in any of the other groups are bought and sold here.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.arts.comics.marketplace  Proponent: Chris Sprenke <[email protected]> 
 
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