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From [email protected] Thu Feb 18 23:09:23 1993
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From: [email protected] (Enrique Contry)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime,soc.culture.japan,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.anime reorganization
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Over the last few months, a number of people have complained about the
increased amount of traffic and "noise" in rec.arts.anime.  After some
deliberation with a small group of fellow posters, and some consultation
with the newsgroup, we'd like to suggest a split for rec.arts.anime:

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.INFO [Moderated]
	The following kinds of postings will be allowed:
	- FAQs (natch)
	- Lists (voice actor list, CD list, subbed/dubbed anime list, etc...)
	- Informational postings ("How to take care of your cels", etc...)
	- Summary reviews of magazines like Animedia,
	  Animage, NewType, Advance Comics, etc.
	- Anime Reviews
	- Industry, con, and club announcements
	- Any significant anime-related news

	Any follow-ups to postings in rec.arts.anime.info will
	be sent to rec.arts.anime.misc (see below).

	Steve Pearl ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.info.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MARKETPLACE [Unmoderated]
	Buying and selling of anime paraphernalia (laserdiscs, tapes,
	model kits, posters, CDs, etc).  Selling of bootleg material
	on the net will be, as usual, *extremely* discouraged.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.DOJINSHI [Moderated]
	"Dojinshi" translates roughly to "same-character stories".
	In Japanese fandom, this word is slang for fanzines containing
	comics featuring popular characters.  There are several
	yearly conventions where makers of dojinshi gather in one
	place to sell their wares to tens of thousands of atendees.
	Unlike American companies, Japanese companies are supportive
	of dojinshi, and even assist in the creations of such conventions.

	Rec.arts.anime.dojinshi will be a place for creators and
	fans to discuss dojinshi, and to post examples of dojinshi
	from fans all over the world, with the authors permitting
	(due to bandwidth limitations, only prose dojinshi will be
	allowed).

	Brad Bikowicz ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.dojinshi.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MISC [Unmoderated]
	The new name for the existing rec.arts.anime newsgroup.
	rec.arts.anime.misc will be added, and rec.arts.anime will
	be rmgrouped.

For those people who get rec.arts.anime through the
ANIME-L mailing list, new mailing lists will be
created for any new groups.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			       Master of Science!
			      [email protected]
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T


From [email protected] Wed Mar 10 21:06:29 1993
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From: [email protected] (Enrique Conty)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.arts.anime split
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Over the last few months, a number of people have complained about the
increased amount of traffic and "noise" in rec.arts.anime.  After some
deliberation with a small group of fellow posters, and some consultation
with the newsgroup, I'd like to suggest a split for rec.arts.anime:

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.INFO [Moderated]
	The following kinds of postings will be allowed:
	- FAQs (natch)
	- Lists (voice actor list, CD list, subbed/dubbed anime list, etc...)
	- Informational postings ("How to take care of your cels", etc...)
	- Summary reviews of magazines like Animedia,
	  Animage, NewType, Advance Comics, etc.
	- Anime Reviews
	- Industry, con, and club announcements
	- Any significant anime-related news ("Mamoru does DIRTY PAIR movie!")

	Any follow-ups to postings in rec.arts.anime.info will
	be sent to rec.arts.anime.misc (see below).

	Steve Pearl ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.info.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MARKETPLACE [Unmoderated]
	Buying and selling of anime paraphernalia (laserdiscs, tapes,
	model kits, posters, CDs, etc).  Selling of bootleg material
	on the net will be, as usual, *extremely* discouraged.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.STORIES [Moderated]
	"Dojinshi" translates roughly to "same-character stories".
	In Japanese fandom, this word is slang for comic fanzines
	featuring popular characters.  There are several yearly
	conventions where makers of dojinshi gather in one place
	to sell their wares to tens of thousands of atendees.  Unlike
	American companies, Japanese companies are supportive of
	dojinshi, and even assist setting up such conventions.

	Rec.arts.anime.stories will be a place for creators and
	fans to discuss such fiction, and to post examples from fans
        all over the world, with the author's permission.  Due to
	bandwidth limitations, no graphical (as in comic form) stories
	will be allowed, only prose.

	Brad Bikowicz ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.dojinshi.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MISC [Unmoderated]
	The new name for the existing rec.arts.anime newsgroup.
	rec.arts.anime.misc will be added, and rec.arts.anime will
	be rmgrouped.

For those people who get rec.arts.anime through the
ANIME-L mailing list, new mailing lists will be
created for any new groups.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			       Master of Science!
			      [email protected]
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T

From [email protected] Mon Mar 29 20:37:21 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Tom Jansen)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.anime reorganization
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			       CALL FOR VOTES

		     RE-ORGANIZATION OF REC.ARTS.ANIME

[The movie starts.  The following subtitle appears on the screen:]

		PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE BEFORE YOU VOTE.
		VOTES CAST INCORRECTLY WILL NOT BE COUNTED!


NEWSGROUP DESCRIPTIONS:
=======================

[The main Neo-Jion fleet.  Commander Char Aznable addresses the troops.]

Char:  Today is a great day for our cause!  We have the opportunity to
       influence the course of history, and direct the future of rec.arts.anime
       as we see fit!  We can let things run their present course, or we
       can create the following newsgroups:


o REC.ARTS.ANIME.INFO [Moderated]
	The following kinds of postings will be allowed:
	- FAQs (natch)
	- Lists (voice actor list, CD list, subbed/dubbed anime list, etc...)
	- Informational postings ("How to take care of your cels", etc...)
	- Summary reviews of magazines like Animedia,
	  Animage, NewType, Advance Comics, etc.
	- Anime Reviews
	- Industry, con, and club announcements
	- Any significant anime-related news ("Mamoru does DIRTY PAIR movie!")

	Any follow-ups to postings in rec.arts.anime.info will
	be sent to rec.arts.anime.misc (see below).

	Steve Pearl ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.info.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MARKETPLACE [Unmoderated]
	Buying and selling of anime paraphernalia (laserdiscs, tapes,
	model kits, posters, CDs, etc).  Selling of bootleg material
	on the net will be, as usual, *extremely* discouraged.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.STORIES [Moderated]
	"Dojinshi" translates roughly to "same-character stories".
	In Japanese fandom, this word is slang for comic fanzines
	featuring popular characters.  There are several yearly
	conventions where makers of dojinshi gather in one place
	to sell their wares to tens of thousands of atendees.  Unlike
	American companies, Japanese companies are supportive of
	dojinshi, and even assist setting up such conventions.

	Rec.arts.anime.stories will be a place for creators and
	fans to discuss such fiction, and to post examples from fans
        all over the world, with the author's permission.  Due to
	bandwidth limitations, no graphical (as in comic form) stories
	will be allowed, only prose.

	Brian Bikowicz ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.dojinshi.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MISC [Unmoderated]
	The new name for the existing rec.arts.anime newsgroup.
	rec.arts.anime.misc will be added, and rec.arts.anime will
	be rmgrouped.

For those people who get rec.arts.anime through the
ANIME-L mailing list, new mailing lists will be
created for any new groups.


Char:  Everyone!  I ask of you to vote!  Whether you agree or disagree with
       the above proposal, let your voice be heard!  For the dream of Jion
       Daikun, and for the glory of the Neo-Jion cause!  VOTE!

[The troops break down in spontaneous cheering...]


VOTING BALLOT
===========

[ABCB Cafe, in Orange Road.  Madoka and Kyosuke are at a table.]
Kyosuke:  Madoka, I...
Madoka:   Where's Hikaru?  She should be here by now.
Hikaru:   Hi everyone!!  I got the ballot!  Here, darling.
	  [Gives ballot to Kyosuke]
Kyosuke:  Let's see now...


---------- cut here ----------
Creation of rec.arts.anime.info:                    (Y/N)  ___
Creation of rec.arts.anime.stories:                 (Y/N)  ___
Creation of rec.arts.anime.marketplace:             (Y/N)  ___
Renaming of rec.arts.anime to rec.arts.anime.misc:  (Y/N)  ___
---------- cut here ----------


Hikaru:   Is there something wrong, darling?
Kyosuke:  I don't know how should I vote.
Madoka:   I hate indecisive men...


VOTING RULES
============
[A hallway in Tomobiki High.  Students are looking at the rec.arts.anime
voting ballot posted on the wall.]

Ataru:  I'll just send a message saying "I want them all!!"
Voice:  You can't do that...
Ataru:  Huh?  Cherry?!  What are *you* doing here?
Cherry: Protecting you from making a mistake, even though I should know
	better.  There are rules that must be followed if you want to vote:


How To Vote:

- Clip-and-save the above ballot.  You can make your own ballot, as long
  as it has all the neccesary information, INCLUDING THE NAME OF THE
  NEWSGROUPS YOU'RE VOTING ON.

- Vote "Y" for the newsgroups you agree with, and "N" for the newsgroups
  you disagree with.  You can abstain voting from any specific newsgroups.

- Include your real name and e-mail address in your vote.  NO ANONYMOUS
  VOTES!!

- Send your vote to [email protected], with a Subject: line of "VOTE"

- If you wish to change your vote, mail your new vote with a subject line
  of CHANGED VOTE to [email protected]


How NOT To Vote:

- DO *NOT* POST YOUR VOTE TO THE NET!  IT WILL NOT BE COUNTED.

- DO *NOT* REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE!  IT WILL NOT GO TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

- Do not send conditional votes.  Stuff like "Yes, but only if..." or
  "No, but I would if..." is not acceptable.

- Do not send global votes.  "YES to all of them" is not acceptable.

- Do not propose new groups.  That time is past.

- Do not send a simple list of votes.  The following is *not* acceptable:
		1) Yes     /* NOTE: this is NOT an acceptable vote */
		2) No 
		3) Yes
		4) No

VOTES WHICH DO NOT CONFORM TO THE ABOVE REQUIREMENTS WILL NOT BE COUNTED.


Voting Period:

- Voting will commence as soon as the moderator of news.announce.newgroups
  posts this Call For Vote to the network.

- Voting will end at NOON CST on Friday, April 23 1993. 

- ANY VOTES RECEIVED AT THE VOTING-TALLYING SITE AFTER THIS POINT IN TIME
  WILL NOT BE COUNTED.  (So vote early!!!)


Multiple Votes/Ballot Stuffing:

- Each person may only vote ONCE regardless of the number of internet
  addresses that they have.

- Checks will be run to verify addresses.

- Proxy votes and forwarded votes will not be accepted.


Votes will not be acknowledged over e-mail.  Rather, mass acknowledgements
of votes received will be posted from time to time.  These acknowledgements
will *just* list addresses and names.  They will not indicate how people
voted.  No indication as to how the vote is going will be posted or
released in any way.


Cherry: Any questions?
Ataru:  Yes.  Why do we need so many rules??
	[Bonks Cherry with a wooden mallet...]


VOTING RESULTS
==============
[A dark, silent warehouse.  Himiko Se and Miyu walk among the crates
 packed with voting slips.]

Himiko: It's over.  All the people have voted.  What happens now?
Miyu:   Several things:


- For a newsgroup to pass, there must be 100 more "Yes" votes than "No"
  votes, and at least 2/3rds of all votes must be "Yes" votes.

- After the voting period has ended, the votes will be tallied and the
  results will be posted to the news.announce.newgroups and all other
  appropriate newsgroups.

- Along with the results, a list of everyone who voted along with the
  *way* each person voted will be posted to the net.

- There will then be a 5 day waiting period during which the results can
  be inspected and verified.

- A file containing everyone's original vote will be available upon
  request via e-mail.

- After the waiting period, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups may
  send out control messages creating/deleting groups according to how
  the 4 separate votes go.


Miyu: That's all there is.  What happens after that, is up to you.
      [Miyu disappears into the darkness...]
-- 
Tom Jansen [email protected]
President - Oregon State Anime Club!
Affiliate - N.O.V.A
"Madness Takes It Toll..."

From [email protected] Wed Apr  7 11:45:08 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Tom Jansen)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.arts.anime reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 6 Apr 1993 12:32:25 -0400
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3434 news.groups:69264 rec.arts.anime:58487 rec.arts.manga:3354

			       CALL FOR VOTES

		     RE-ORGANIZATION OF REC.ARTS.ANIME

[The movie starts.  The following subtitle appears on the screen:]

		PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE BEFORE YOU VOTE.
		VOTES CAST INCORRECTLY WILL NOT BE COUNTED!

NEWSGROUP DESCRIPTIONS:
=======================

[The main Neo-Jion fleet.  Commander Char Aznable addresses the troops.]

Char:  Today is a great day for our cause!  We have the opportunity to
       influence the course of history, and direct the future of rec.arts.anime
       as we see fit!  We can let things run their present course, or we
       can create the following newsgroups:


o REC.ARTS.ANIME.INFO [Moderated]
	The following kinds of postings will be allowed:
	- FAQs (natch)
	- Lists (voice actor list, CD list, subbed/dubbed anime list, etc...)
	- Informational postings ("How to take care of your cels", etc...)
	- Summary reviews of magazines like Animedia,
	  Animage, NewType, Advance Comics, etc.
	- Anime Reviews
	- Industry, con, and club announcements
	- Any significant anime-related news ("Mamoru does DIRTY PAIR movie!")

	Any follow-ups to postings in rec.arts.anime.info will
	be sent to rec.arts.anime.misc (see below).

	Steve Pearl ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.info.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MARKETPLACE [Unmoderated]
	Buying and selling of anime paraphernalia (laserdiscs, tapes,
	model kits, posters, CDs, etc).  Selling of bootleg material
	on the net will be, as usual, *extremely* discouraged.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.STORIES [Moderated]
	"Dojinshi" translates roughly to "same-character stories".
	In Japanese fandom, this word is slang for comic fanzines
	featuring popular characters.  There are several yearly
	conventions where makers of dojinshi gather in one place
	to sell their wares to tens of thousands of atendees.  Unlike
	American companies, Japanese companies are supportive of
	dojinshi, and even assist setting up such conventions.

	Rec.arts.anime.stories will be a place for creators and
	fans to discuss such fiction, and to post examples from fans
        all over the world, with the author's permission.  Due to
	bandwidth limitations, no graphical (as in comic form) stories
	will be allowed, only prose.

	Brian Bikowicz ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.dojinshi.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MISC [Unmoderated]
	The new name for the existing rec.arts.anime newsgroup.
	rec.arts.anime.misc will be added, and rec.arts.anime will
	be rmgrouped.

For those people who get rec.arts.anime through the
ANIME-L mailing list, new mailing lists will be
created for any new groups.


Char:  Everyone!  I ask of you to vote!  Whether you agree or disagree with
       the above proposal, let your voice be heard!  For the dream of Jion
       Daikun, and for the glory of the Neo-Jion cause!  VOTE!

[The troops break down in spontaneous cheering...]


VOTING BALLOT
===========

[ABCB Cafe, in Orange Road.  Madoka and Kyosuke are at a table.]
Kyosuke:  Madoka, I...
Madoka:   Where's Hikaru?  She should be here by now.
Hikaru:   Hi everyone!!  I got the ballot!  Here, darling.
	  [Gives ballot to Kyosuke]
Kyosuke:  Let's see now...


---------- cut here ----------
Creation of rec.arts.anime.info:                    (Y/N)  ___
Creation of rec.arts.anime.stories:                 (Y/N)  ___
Creation of rec.arts.anime.marketplace:             (Y/N)  ___
Renaming of rec.arts.anime to rec.arts.anime.misc:  (Y/N)  ___
---------- cut here ----------


Hikaru:   Is there something wrong, darling?
Kyosuke:  I don't know how should I vote.
Madoka:   I hate indecisive men...


VOTING RULES
============
[A hallway in Tomobiki High.  Students are looking at the rec.arts.anime
voting ballot posted on the wall.]

Ataru:  I'll just send a message saying "I want them all!!"
Voice:  You can't do that...
Ataru:  Huh?  Cherry?!  What are *you* doing here?
Cherry: Protecting you from making a mistake, even though I should know
	better.  There are rules that must be followed if you want to vote:


How To Vote:

- Clip-and-save the above ballot.  You can make your own ballot, as long
  as it has all the neccesary information, INCLUDING THE NAME OF THE
  NEWSGROUPS YOU'RE VOTING ON.

- Vote "Y" for the newsgroups you agree with, and "N" for the newsgroups
  you disagree with.  You can abstain voting from any specific newsgroups.

- Include your real name and e-mail address in your vote.  NO ANONYMOUS
  VOTES!!

- Send your vote to [email protected], with a Subject: line of "VOTE"

- If you wish to change your vote, mail your new vote with a subject line
  of CHANGED VOTE to [email protected]


How NOT To Vote:

- DO *NOT* POST YOUR VOTE TO THE NET!  IT WILL NOT BE COUNTED.

- DO *NOT* REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE!  IT WILL NOT GO TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

- Do not send conditional votes.  Stuff like "Yes, but only if..." or
  "No, but I would if..." is not acceptable.

- Do not send global votes.  "YES to all of them" is not acceptable.

- Do not propose new groups.  That time is past.

- Do not send a simple list of votes.  The following is *not* acceptable:
		1) Yes     /* NOTE: this is NOT an acceptable vote */
		2) No 
		3) Yes
		4) No

VOTES WHICH DO NOT CONFORM TO THE ABOVE REQUIREMENTS WILL NOT BE COUNTED.


Voting Period:

- Voting will commence as soon as the moderator of news.announce.newgroups
  posts this Call For Vote to the network.

- Voting will end at NOON CST on Monday, April 12 1993. 

- ANY VOTES RECEIVED AT THE VOTING-TALLYING SITE AFTER THIS POINT IN TIME
  WILL NOT BE COUNTED.  (So vote early!!!)


Multiple Votes/Ballot Stuffing:

- Each person may only vote ONCE regardless of the number of internet
  addresses that they have.

- Checks will be run to verify addresses.

- Proxy votes and forwarded votes will not be accepted.


Votes will not be acknowledged over e-mail.  Rather, mass acknowledgements
of votes received will be posted from time to time.  These acknowledgements
will *just* list addresses and names.  They will not indicate how people
voted.  No indication as to how the vote is going will be posted or
released in any way.


Cherry: Any questions?
Ataru:  Yes.  Why do we need so many rules??
	[Bonks Cherry with a wooden mallet...]


VOTING RESULTS
==============
[A dark, silent warehouse.  Himiko Se and Miyu walk among the crates
 packed with voting slips.]

Himiko: It's over.  All the people have voted.  What happens now?
Miyu:   Several things:


- For a newsgroup to pass, there must be 100 more "Yes" votes than "No"
  votes, and at least 2/3rds of all votes must be "Yes" votes.

- After the voting period has ended, the votes will be tallied and the
  results will be posted to the news.announce.newgroups and all other
  appropriate newsgroups.

- Along with the results, a list of everyone who voted along with the
  *way* each person voted will be posted to the net.

- There will then be a 5 day waiting period during which the results can
  be inspected and verified.

- A file containing everyone's original vote will be available upon
  request via e-mail.

- After the waiting period, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups may
  send out control messages creating/deleting groups according to how
  the 4 separate votes go.


Miyu: That's all there is.  What happens after that, is up to you.
      [Miyu disappears into the darkness...]

Here is the list of names and e-mail address of those who have sent
votes as of about 5pm PST on April 1st.

Christian Balzer        [email protected] 
Enrique Conty           [email protected]
David Goldsmith         [email protected]
Geir Friestad           [email protected]
Mark 'Mark' Sachs       [email protected]
Andy Combs              [email protected] 
Roderick Lee            [email protected]
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a      [email protected]
Russell G. Almond       [email protected] 
Amberle Ferrian         [email protected]
Andrew Huie             [email protected]
Phillip Hume            [email protected]
Ben Cohen               [email protected]
Albert H Nakano         [email protected] 
Gary Eng                [email protected]
Burt N Holzman          [email protected]
Chadwick Ngan           [email protected] 
Christopher Chan        [email protected]
Adam Houck              [email protected]
Christian Gadeken       [email protected] 
Christopher J Biggs     [email protected]   
Ernest A. Cline         [email protected]
Chris Miller            [email protected] 
Michael Conde           [email protected]
Chris Payne             [email protected] 
Daneel Pang             [email protected]
David C Blume           [email protected] 
Dave Deitrich           [email protected]
Robert Deloura          [email protected] 
Dan Meacham             [email protected]
Hitoshi Doi             [email protected]
Don Wakefield           [email protected] 
Samuel Crider           [email protected]
Dave Van Cleef          [email protected] 
Brian Edmonds           [email protected]
Eric J. Olson           [email protected]
Emru Townsend           [email protected] 
Euclid K.               [email protected]
Julian H Fong           [email protected]
Frank Tore Johansen     [email protected]
Sean Ryan               [email protected]
Gary Moh                [email protected] 
Jason Harvey            [email protected]
Greg Vilardi            [email protected] 
Eiji Hirai              [email protected] 
Herbert M Petro         [email protected] 
James L. Brookes        [email protected]
James C. Tilton         [email protected]  
Eric Townsend           [email protected] 
Joe Smith               [email protected] 
Jim Ogle                [email protected]
Sean Givan              [email protected]
K.T. Wong               [email protected] 
Chih-Ping Kuo           [email protected]
Wilbur Y Kuo            [email protected]
Stephen Lau             [email protected]
Lenny Lim Kiong Peng    [email protected] 
Brett M. Linbo-Terhaar  [email protected]
Larry Virden            [email protected] 
Sean Malloy             [email protected] 
Mark Atwood             [email protected] 
Christopher Leung       [email protected] 
K R Maxson              [email protected]
Brian Bikowicz          [email protected]
Martin Rose             [email protected] 
Michael J. Edwards      [email protected] 
Jeff Meyer              [email protected] 
Nat Fairbanks           [email protected]
Alex Howell             [email protected]
Bill Owens              [email protected] 
Vaughn Gross            [email protected]
Harold Ancell           [email protected]
Randy Hardcorn          [email protected]
Richard Hempsey         [email protected] 
Richard H. Miller       [email protected]
Richard L. Butler       [email protected]
R Mark Chilenskas       [email protected]
Rob Follo               [email protected]
Stephen R Chen          [email protected]
Marc Moorcroft          [email protected]
jeffrey weiss           [email protected]  
Ronald L Yap            [email protected]
Stu Labovitz            [email protected] 
Casey Carter            [email protected]
Sascha Wildner          [email protected]
Brian Tao               [email protected] 
Todd Thomas             [email protected]
T.S. Davies             [email protected]
Stephan Szabo           [email protected] 
Matthias Urlichs        [email protected]
Viktor Mraz             [email protected] 
Benjamin Wai            [email protected] 
David Wald              [email protected] 
William W. Arnold       [email protected]
Patrick Chester         [email protected] 
Eugene Lee              [email protected]
ITO Takayuki            [email protected]
Yvonne Y. Yang          [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Apr 14 15:42:56 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Tom Jansen)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.arts.anime reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 12 Apr 1993 19:51:02 -0400
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	Hello!  This is the final CFV and the Final update of votes.  A
reminder that the voting period ends the 23rd of April, so there is just
a little time left. PLEASE check and see if your name is below.  This is
all the votes I have as of 2:30pm PST on Mon. the 12th.  If you haven't
voted, please do. If you have, check your name. Thanks.

			       CALL FOR VOTES

		     RE-ORGANIZATION OF REC.ARTS.ANIME

[The movie starts.  The following subtitle appears on the screen:]

		PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE BEFORE YOU VOTE.
		VOTES CAST INCORRECTLY WILL NOT BE COUNTED!


NEWSGROUP DESCRIPTIONS:
=======================

[The main Neo-Jion fleet.  Commander Char Aznable addresses the troops.]

Char:  Today is a great day for our cause!  We have the opportunity to
       influence the course of history, and direct the future of rec.arts.anime
       as we see fit!  We can let things run their present course, or we
       can create the following newsgroups:


o REC.ARTS.ANIME.INFO [Moderated]
	The following kinds of postings will be allowed:
	- FAQs (natch)
	- Lists (voice actor list, CD list, subbed/dubbed anime list, etc...)
	- Informational postings ("How to take care of your cels", etc...)
	- Summary reviews of magazines like Animedia,
	  Animage, NewType, Advance Comics, etc.
	- Anime Reviews
	- Industry, con, and club announcements
	- Any significant anime-related news ("Mamoru does DIRTY PAIR movie!")

	Any follow-ups to postings in rec.arts.anime.info will
	be sent to rec.arts.anime.misc (see below).

	Steve Pearl ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.info.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MARKETPLACE [Unmoderated]
	Buying and selling of anime paraphernalia (laserdiscs, tapes,
	model kits, posters, CDs, etc).  Selling of bootleg material
	on the net will be, as usual, *extremely* discouraged.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.STORIES [Moderated]
	"Dojinshi" translates roughly to "same-character stories".
	In Japanese fandom, this word is slang for comic fanzines
	featuring popular characters.  There are several yearly
	conventions where makers of dojinshi gather in one place
	to sell their wares to tens of thousands of atendees.  Unlike
	American companies, Japanese companies are supportive of
	dojinshi, and even assist setting up such conventions.

	Rec.arts.anime.stories will be a place for creators and
	fans to discuss such fiction, and to post examples from fans
        all over the world, with the author's permission.  Due to
	bandwidth limitations, no graphical (as in comic form) stories
	will be allowed, only prose.

	Brian Bikowicz ([email protected]) has volunteered to be
	the first moderator of rec.arts.anime.stories.

o REC.ARTS.ANIME.MISC [Unmoderated]
	The new name for the existing rec.arts.anime newsgroup.
	rec.arts.anime.misc will be added, and rec.arts.anime will
	be rmgrouped.

For those people who get rec.arts.anime through the
ANIME-L mailing list, new mailing lists will be
created for any new groups.


Char:  Everyone!  I ask of you to vote!  Whether you agree or disagree with
       the above proposal, let your voice be heard!  For the dream of Jion
       Daikun, and for the glory of the Neo-Jion cause!  VOTE!

[The troops break down in spontaneous cheering...]


VOTING BALLOT
===========

[ABCB Cafe, in Orange Road.  Madoka and Kyosuke are at a table.]
Kyosuke:  Madoka, I...
Madoka:   Where's Hikaru?  She should be here by now.
Hikaru:   Hi everyone!!  I got the ballot!  Here, darling.
	  [Gives ballot to Kyosuke]
Kyosuke:  Let's see now...


---------- cut here ----------
Creation of rec.arts.anime.info:                    (Y/N)  ___
Creation of rec.arts.anime.stories:                 (Y/N)  ___
Creation of rec.arts.anime.marketplace:             (Y/N)  ___
Renaming of rec.arts.anime to rec.arts.anime.misc:  (Y/N)  ___
---------- cut here ----------


Hikaru:   Is there something wrong, darling?
Kyosuke:  I don't know how should I vote.
Madoka:   I hate indecisive men...


VOTING RULES
============
[A hallway in Tomobiki High.  Students are looking at the rec.arts.anime
voting ballot posted on the wall.]

Ataru:  I'll just send a message saying "I want them all!!"
Voice:  You can't do that...
Ataru:  Huh?  Cherry?!  What are *you* doing here?
Cherry: Protecting you from making a mistake, even though I should know
	better.  There are rules that must be followed if you want to vote:


How To Vote:

- Clip-and-save the above ballot.  You can make your own ballot, as long
  as it has all the neccesary information, INCLUDING THE NAME OF THE
  NEWSGROUPS YOU'RE VOTING ON.

- Vote "Y" for the newsgroups you agree with, and "N" for the newsgroups
  you disagree with.  You can abstain voting from any specific newsgroups.

- Include your real name and e-mail address in your vote.  NO ANONYMOUS
  VOTES!!

- Send your vote to [email protected], with a Subject: line of "VOTE"

- If you wish to change your vote, mail your new vote with a subject line
  of CHANGED VOTE to [email protected]


How NOT To Vote:

- DO *NOT* POST YOUR VOTE TO THE NET!  IT WILL NOT BE COUNTED.

- DO *NOT* REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE!  IT WILL NOT GO TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

- Do not send conditional votes.  Stuff like "Yes, but only if..." or
  "No, but I would if..." is not acceptable.

- Do not send global votes.  "YES to all of them" is not acceptable.

- Do not propose new groups.  That time is past.

- Do not send a simple list of votes.  The following is *not* acceptable:
		1) Yes     /* NOTE: this is NOT an acceptable vote */
		2) No 
		3) Yes
		4) No

VOTES WHICH DO NOT CONFORM TO THE ABOVE REQUIREMENTS WILL NOT BE COUNTED.


Voting Period:

- Voting will commence as soon as the moderator of news.announce.newgroups
  posts this Call For Vote to the network.

- Voting will end at NOON CST on Friday, April 23  1993. 

- ANY VOTES RECEIVED AT THE VOTING-TALLYING SITE AFTER THIS POINT IN TIME
  WILL NOT BE COUNTED.  (So vote early!!!)


Multiple Votes/Ballot Stuffing:

- Each person may only vote ONCE regardless of the number of internet
  addresses that they have.

- Checks will be run to verify addresses.

- Proxy votes and forwarded votes will not be accepted.


Votes will not be acknowledged over e-mail.  Rather, mass acknowledgements
of votes received will be posted from time to time.  These acknowledgements
will *just* list addresses and names.  They will not indicate how people
voted.  No indication as to how the vote is going will be posted or
released in any way.


Cherry: Any questions?
Ataru:  Yes.  Why do we need so many rules??
	[Bonks Cherry with a wooden mallet...]


VOTING RESULTS
==============
[A dark, silent warehouse.  Himiko Se and Miyu walk among the crates
 packed with voting slips.]

Himiko: It's over.  All the people have voted.  What happens now?
Miyu:   Several things:


- For a newsgroup to pass, there must be 100 more "Yes" votes than "No"
  votes, and at least 2/3rds of all votes must be "Yes" votes.

- After the voting period has ended, the votes will be tallied and the
  results will be posted to the news.announce.newgroups and all other
  appropriate newsgroups.

- Along with the results, a list of everyone who voted along with the
  *way* each person voted will be posted to the net.

- There will then be a 5 day waiting period during which the results can
  be inspected and verified.

- A file containing everyone's original vote will be available upon
  request via e-mail.

- After the waiting period, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups may
  send out control messages creating/deleting groups according to how
  the 4 separate votes go.


Miyu: That's all there is.  What happens after that, is up to you.
      [Miyu disappears into the darkness...]

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Jeff Williamson                 [email protected] 
Michael J. Quinn                [email protected]
Kim Seok Kyoo                   [email protected] 
Cloyce D. Spradling             [email protected] 
Bruce Carlson                   [email protected]
Andre A. Nurwono                [email protected] 
Ed McGuire                      [email protected] 
James E. Schaad                 [email protected]
Neil Asato                      [email protected]
Thien Dinh                      [email protected]
Paul M. Aoki                    [email protected] 
Gregory G. Woodbury             [email protected] 
Melinda Miller                  [email protected]
Ralf Acktories                  [email protected]
Randy Finder                    [email protected]
Rey Kanzaki                     [email protected]
Julian D Lighton                [email protected]
Johnathan Bruce                 [email protected] 
Jonathan C Lansing              [email protected]
Michael Welsh Duggan            [email protected]
Randall J. Kink                 [email protected] 
James H. Kiley"                 [email protected]
Cecil Lee                       [email protected]
Alex J. Chien                   [email protected]
Esther Jeong Yu                 [email protected]
James C. Tsiao                  [email protected] 
Dane Chin Loy                   [email protected] 
Sandro Sarang                   [email protected]
Ted Tsai                        [email protected]
Derek Gilarski                  [email protected]
Joe Jackson                     [email protected]
Chad Walker                     [email protected] 
Edwin Wiles                     [email protected] 
Sean Gugler                     [email protected] 
Tom Jewell                      [email protected]
Doug Cha                        [email protected] 
Derek Upham                     [email protected]
Mike Knauer                     [email protected]
Bruce M. Hahne                  [email protected] 
Takashi Komatsu                 [email protected]
Alan Rollow                     [email protected] 
Jeffrey Hanyu                   [email protected]
Matt Power                      [email protected]
Eugene Lee                      [email protected]
Charles Loo                     [email protected]
Iain Sinclair                   [email protected]
Hank Harken                     [email protected]
Myong Choo                      [email protected]
Luther Frisch                   [email protected]
Steffen Kremser                 [email protected] 
Richard Vermaas                 [email protected] 
Mike Arms                       [email protected] 
Dave Carr                       [email protected] 
Paul Ortega                     [email protected] 
Jason Juta                      [email protected] 
Thomas Wang                     [email protected]
David F. Lauder                 [email protected]
Edward Lee                      [email protected]
Samuel S. Tai                   [email protected]
Richard L. Butler       [email protected]
Emru Townsend           [email protected] 
Enrique Conty           [email protected]
James C. Tilton         [email protected]  
Vaughn Gross            [email protected]
Eugene Lee              [email protected]
Chih-Ping Kuo           [email protected]
Stephen Lau             [email protected]
Eric J. Olson           [email protected]
Martin Rose             [email protected] 
Mark 'Mark' Sachs       [email protected]
Brian Bikowicz          [email protected]
Adam Houck              [email protected]
Eric Townsend           [email protected] 
Eiji Hirai              [email protected] 
Patrick Chester         [email protected] 
Phillip Hume            [email protected]
Bill Owens              [email protected] 
Greg Vilardi            [email protected] 
K R Maxson              [email protected]
Ernest A. Cline         [email protected]
Herbert M Petro         [email protected] 
Gary Moh                [email protected] 
Michael Conde           [email protected]
Chris Miller            [email protected] 
Richard H. Miller       [email protected]
Larry Virden            [email protected] 
David C Blume           [email protected] 
Brian Edmonds           [email protected]
Robert Deloura          [email protected] 
Sean Givan              [email protected]
James L. Brookes        [email protected]
David Goldsmith         [email protected]
Brett M. Linbo-Terhaar  [email protected]
Michael J. Edwards      [email protected] 
Chadwick Ngan           [email protected] 
Samuel Crider           [email protected]
Albert H Nakano         [email protected] 
Lenny Lim Kiong Peng    [email protected] 
Roderick Lee            [email protected]
Marc Moorcroft          [email protected]
Christopher J Biggs     [email protected]   
ITO Takayuki            [email protected]
Euclid K.               [email protected]
Amberle Ferrian         [email protected]
Stephan Szabo           [email protected] 
jeffrey weiss           [email protected]  
Benjamin Wai            [email protected] 
Andy Combs              [email protected] 
Christopher Leung       [email protected] 
Harold Ancell           [email protected]
Casey Carter            [email protected]
Dan Meacham             [email protected]
Rob Follo               [email protected]
Ronald L Yap            [email protected]
Daneel Pang             [email protected]
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a      [email protected]
Jim Ogle                [email protected]
Sean Malloy             [email protected] 
R Mark Chilenskas       [email protected]
Matthias Urlichs        [email protected]
Julian H Fong           [email protected]
Ben Cohen               [email protected]
Russell G. Almond       [email protected] 
Stu Labovitz            [email protected] 
Christian Balzer        [email protected] 
Brian Tao               [email protected] 
Chris Payne             [email protected] 
Mark Atwood             [email protected] 
Dave Van Cleef          [email protected] 
Todd Thomas             [email protected]
Dave Deitrich           [email protected]
Viktor Mraz             [email protected] 
Alex Howell             [email protected]
Christian Gadeken       [email protected] 
William W. Arnold       [email protected]
K.T. Wong               [email protected] 
Hitoshi Doi             [email protected]
Wilbur Y Kuo            [email protected]
Joe Smith               [email protected] 
Gary Eng                [email protected]
Don Wakefield           [email protected] 
Burt N Holzman          [email protected]
Jeff Meyer              [email protected] 
Stephen R Chen          [email protected]
Richard Hempsey         [email protected] 
Sascha Wildner          [email protected]
Frank Tore Johansen     [email protected]
Randy Hardcorn          [email protected]
Jason Harvey            [email protected]
Geir Friestad           [email protected]
Sean Ryan               [email protected]
Yvonne Y. Yang          [email protected]
David Wald              [email protected] 
T.S. Davies             [email protected]
Andrew Huie             [email protected]
Christopher Chan        [email protected]
Nat Fairbanks           [email protected]
Scott Baker             [email protected]
Edward Mihara           [email protected]>
Jacob Trenta            [email protected]>
Victor Chan             [email protected] (Chan Victor)
Aleksandr Sergeyev      [email protected]
Wes Harrell             [email protected]
Caroline Kierstead      [email protected]>
Mark Longridge          [email protected]>
Rick Fung               [email protected] (Fung Rick)

From [email protected] Wed Apr 28 18:55:46 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Tom Jansen)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.anime reorganization mostly passes
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 27 Apr 1993 16:44:39 -0400
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
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	Hello!  Yup, this is the last you will probably have to hear about
all this, so here are the results!  First off I need to thank Enrique
Conty.  He not only wrote the CFV (which got quite a few really nice 
comments), but he also gave me enormous amounts of help and support with 
what I needed to do, and when I should do it.  If not for him, I really 
would have been lost, and things would have gone really rough. Thanks.  
Now, onto the results:

A total of 198 people voted in the poll. I don't know if this is good or
	bad, but that's it.  

Totals: 

Creation of Rec.arts.anime.info:        Yes     -  166 (83.8%) 
					No      -  31  (15.6%
					Abstain -  1   (.6%)

					Result  - Passes

Creation of Rec.arts.anime.stories:     Yes     -  152 (76.7%)
					No      -  41  (20.7%)
					Abstain -  5   (2.6%)

					Result  - Passes

Creation of Rec.arts.anime.marketplace: Yes     - 157 (79.3%)
					No      - 37  (18.7%)
					Abstain - 4   (2%)

					Result  - Passes

Renaming of Rec.arts.anime 
		to
	    Rec.arts.anime.misc:        Yes     -  142 (71.7%)
					No      -  52  (24.3%)
					Abstain -  4   (2%)

					Result  - Does Not Pass


Below is a list of names and how everyone voted.  In the parentheses are 
peoples votes in this order: rec.arts.anime.info,rec.arts.anime.stories,
rec.arts.anime.marketplace,rec.arts.anime.misc.  

Jeff Williamson                 [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
Michael J. Quinn                [email protected]    (y,y,y,y)
Kim Seok Kyoo                   [email protected]      (y,y,y,y)
Cloyce D. Spradling             [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Bruce Carlson                   [email protected]      (y,y,n,y)
Andre A. Nurwono                [email protected]          (y,y,y,a)
Ed McGuire                      [email protected]      (n,n,n,n)
James E. Schaad                 [email protected]          (y,y,y,n)
Neil Asato                      [email protected]   (y,y,y,y)
Thien Dinh                      [email protected]          (y,y,y,y)
Paul M. Aoki                    [email protected]     (n,n,n,n)
Gregory G. Woodbury             [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
Melinda Miller                  [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Ralf Acktories                  [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
Randy Finder                    [email protected]  (y,y,y,y)
Rey Kanzaki                     [email protected]    (y,y,y,y)
Julian D Lighton                [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Johnathan Bruce                 [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Jonathan C Lansing              [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
Michael Welsh Duggan            [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Randall J. Kink                 [email protected]        (y,y,n,y)
James H. Kiley"                 [email protected]           (n,n,n,n)
Cecil Lee                       [email protected]          (y,y,y,y)
Alex J. Chien                   [email protected]          (n,n,n,n)
Esther Jeong Yu                 [email protected]    (y,n,y,n)
James C. Tsiao                  [email protected]      (n,n,n,n)
Dane Chin Loy                   [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
Sandro Sarang                   [email protected]      (y,y,y,y)
Ted Tsai                        [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Joe Jackson                     [email protected]      (y,y,y,y)
Chad Walker                     [email protected]     (y,y,y,y)
Edwin Wiles                     [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
Sean Gugler                     [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
Tom Jewell                      [email protected]            (y,y,y,y)
Doug Cha                        [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Derek Upham                     [email protected]                (y,y,y,y)
Mike Knauer                     [email protected]  (y,y,y,y)
Bruce M. Hahne                  [email protected]      (y,y,y,n)
Takashi Komatsu                 [email protected]            (n,y,y,n)
Alan Rollow                     [email protected]        (n,n,n,n)
Jeffrey Hanyu                   [email protected]           (y,y,y,n)
Matt Power                      [email protected]         (n,n,n,n)
Eugene Lee                      [email protected]        (y,y,y,n)
Charles Loo                     [email protected]      (y,a,y,n)
Iain Sinclair                   [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
Hank Harken                     [email protected]      (y,y,y,y)
Myong Choo                      [email protected](y,y,y,y)
Luther Frisch                   [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
Steffen Kremser                 [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Richard Vermaas                 [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Mike Arms                       [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
Dave Carr                       [email protected]          (n,n,n,n)
Paul Ortega                     [email protected]              (y,n,y,y)
Jason Juta                      [email protected]          (y,y,y,y)
Thomas Wang                     [email protected]       (y,y,a,n)
David F. Lauder                 [email protected]  (y,y,y,y)
Edward Lee                      [email protected]            (y,y,y,n)
Samuel S. Tai                   [email protected]         (y,y,y,y)
Richard L. Butler       [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Emru Townsend           [email protected]                           (y,y,y,y)
Enrique Conty           [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
James C. Tilton         [email protected]                          (y,y,y,y)
Vaughn Gross            [email protected]                    (y,y,y,y)
Eugene Lee              [email protected]                (y,y,y,n)
Chih-Ping Kuo           [email protected]                       (y,y,y,y)
Stephen Lau             [email protected]                         (n,n,n,n)
Eric J. Olson           [email protected]                 (n,n,n,a)
Martin Rose             [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Mark 'Mark' Sachs       [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Brian Bikowicz          [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Adam Houck              [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Eric Townsend           [email protected]                       (y,y,y,y)
Eiji Hirai              [email protected]                (y,y,y,y)
Patrick Chester         [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Phillip Hume            [email protected]                 (n,n,n,n)
Bill Owens              [email protected]     (y,y,y,y)
Greg Vilardi            [email protected]              (y,y,y,n)
K R Maxson              [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Ernest A. Cline         [email protected]         (n,n,n,a)
Herbert M Petro         [email protected]                (n,n,n,n)
Gary Moh                [email protected]                    (y,y,y,y)
Michael Conde           [email protected]                 (y,y,y,y)
Chris Miller            [email protected]                     (y,y,y,y)
Richard H. Miller       [email protected]           (n,n,n,n)
Larry Virden            [email protected]                          (y,y,y,y)
David C Blume           [email protected]                 (y,y,y,y)
Brian Edmonds           [email protected]                      (y,y,y,y)
Robert Deloura          [email protected]                   (n,n,n,n)
Sean Givan              [email protected]         (n,y,y,n)
James L. Brookes        [email protected]               (y,y,y,y)
David Goldsmith         [email protected]           (y,a,y,y)
Brett M. Linbo-Terhaar  [email protected]                     (y,y,y,y)
Michael J. Edwards      [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Chadwick Ngan           [email protected]                 (y,n,y,n)
Samuel Crider           [email protected]            (y,y,y,y)
Albert H Nakano         [email protected]               (y,n,n,y)
Lenny Lim Kiong Peng    [email protected]                       (y,y,a,y)
Roderick Lee            [email protected]                      (y,y,y,y)
Marc Moorcroft          [email protected]                 (n,a,n,n)
Christopher J Biggs     [email protected]                        (y,y,y,y)
ITO Takayuki            [email protected]                (y,y,y,y)
Euclid K.               [email protected]            (y,y,y,y)
Amberle Ferrian         [email protected]                (n,n,n,n)
Stephan Szabo           [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
jeffrey weiss           [email protected]                    (y,y,y,y)
Benjamin Wai            [email protected]                 (y,n,y,n)
Andy Combs              [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Christopher Leung       [email protected]           (y,n,y,y)
Harold Ancell           [email protected]                     (y,y,y,y)
Casey Carter            [email protected]                      (n,n,n,n)
Dan Meacham             [email protected]         (n,y,n,n)
Rob Follo               [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Ronald L Yap            [email protected]             (y,n,y,y)
Daneel Pang             [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a      [email protected] (n,n,n,n)
Jim Ogle                [email protected]                     (n,n,n,n)
Sean Malloy             [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
R Mark Chilenskas       [email protected]                           (y,y,y,y)
Matthias Urlichs        [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Julian H Fong           [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Ben Cohen               [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Russell G. Almond       [email protected]i.com                     (y,y,y,y)
Stu Labovitz            [email protected]               (y,y,y,y)
Christian Balzer        [email protected]                       (y,y,y,y)
Brian Tao               [email protected]                    (y,y,y,y)
Chris Payne             [email protected]            (n,n,n,n)
Mark Atwood             [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Dave Van Cleef          [email protected]                   (y,n,n,n)
Todd Thomas             [email protected]                         (y,n,n,y)
Dave Deitrich           [email protected]              (y,y,y,n)
Viktor Mraz             [email protected]             (y,y,y,n)
Alex Howell             [email protected]                (y,y,y,n)
Christian Gadeken       [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
William W. Arnold       [email protected]                (y,y,y,y)
K.T. Wong               [email protected]                  (n,y,y,y)
Hitoshi Doi             [email protected]                        (y,y,y,y)
Wilbur Y Kuo            [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Joe Smith               [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Gary Eng                [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
Don Wakefield           [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Burt N Holzman          [email protected]                          (n,n,n,n)
Jeff Meyer              [email protected]                  (n,n,n,n)
Stephen R Chen          [email protected]               (y,y,y,y)
Richard Hempsey         [email protected]      (y,y,y,y)
Sascha Wildner          [email protected]               (y,y,y,y)
Frank Tore Johansen     [email protected]                      (y,y,y,y)
Randy Hardcorn          [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Jason Harvey            [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Geir Friestad           [email protected]                   (n,n,n,n)
Sean Ryan               [email protected]                (y,y,n,y)
Yvonne Y. Yang          [email protected]          (y,y,y,y)
David Wald              [email protected]                (a,a,a,y)
T.S. Davies             [email protected]               (y,y,y,y)
Andrew Huie             [email protected]                      (y,y,y,n)
Christopher Chan        [email protected]                    (y,y,y,y)
Nat Fairbanks           [email protected]                     (y,y,y,y)
Scott Baker             [email protected]                 (y,y,y,y)
Edward Mihara           [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Jacob Trenta            [email protected]            (y,y,y,y)
Victor Chan             [email protected]           (y,n,y,n)
Aleksandr Sergeyev      [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Wes Harrell             [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Caroline Kierstead      [email protected]   (y,y,y,y)
Mark Longridge          [email protected]              (y,n,y,n)
Rick Fung               [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Andy Lipscomb           [email protected]         (y,n,y,y)
Albert Wong             [email protected]                     (y,n,n,y)
Alan Takahashi          [email protected]                     (y,n,n,n)
Keith A. Crabb          [email protected]                           (y,y,y,y)
Francis Uy              [email protected]                      (y,a,a,y)
GEOFF WESSEL            [email protected]                (y,y,y,n)
Mike M. Tatsugawa       [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
David Mou               [email protected]           (y,y,y,y)
Dana M. Weaver          [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Sarah Skovronsky        [email protected]              (y,y,y,y)
Richard Hartman         [email protected]                     (y,y,y,y)
Michael Stoodt          [email protected]                  (y,y,y,y)
Geoffery V. Bronner     [email protected]       (n,n,n,n)
David Cotterill         [email protected]                      (y,y,y,n)
Julian Macassey         [email protected]                  (n,n,n,n)
Gordon Engel            [email protected]             (y,n,n,a)
David Kwong             [email protected]             (y,y,y,n)
Joe Leitsch             [email protected]         (y,y,y,n)
Michael Studte          [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Rob Knauerhase          [email protected]                     (n,n,n,n)
Chris Meadows           [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Yamashiki Tsuyoshi      [email protected]       (y,y,y,y)
David DeSimone          [email protected]                         (y,y,y,y)
Tom Payne               [email protected]  (y,y,y,y)
Michael Louie           [email protected]             (y,y,y,y)
Wayde Higuchi           [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
David M. Bateson        [email protected]            (y,y,y,y)
Thien Dinh              [email protected]         (y,y,y,y)
Samer Meshreki          [email protected]                   (y,y,y,y)
Sean Riesch             [email protected]                 (y,y,y,y)
Manuel.a.Castro"        [email protected]                    (y,y,y,y)
Kelly St.Clair          [email protected]        (y,y,y,y)
John Dennis             [email protected]                 (y,y,y,y)


 
USENET FACT: Big-8
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