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From [email protected] Thu Oct 27 15:12:19 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Glenn Carnagey <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.info,alt.comics.elfquest,alt.fan.furry,alt.fan.tank-girl,alt.zines
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.comics.alternative
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		     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
		     rec.arts.comics.alternative


Purpose:	For the discussion of alternative (non-mainstream,
--------	non-superhero) comic books.

Status: 	Unmoderated.
------

Rationale:	The group rec.arts.comics.alternative is proposed to
----------	replace the group alt.comics.alternative, due to the
		propogation problems of that group: many people would
like to read the group and cannot, but do have access to the rec
heirarchy.  The group rec.arts.comics.misc is heavy-traffic, and is
overwhelmingly dominated by the discussion of color superhero comic
books not ordinarily of interest to many readers of alternative comic
books.  In addition, creation of rec.arts.comics.alternative would
considerably boost the visibility of the discussion of alternative
comic books.

Charter:	The purpose of rec.arts.comics.alternative is to
--------	provide a forum for the discussion of alternative
		comic books, which follow in the footsteps of the
1960s' underground comics, in that they defy the common perceptions
that all comics are for children, and that almost all feature
four-color super-heroes.  Comics which easily fall into those genres
well-represented by the comic book industry's mainstream (such as
superheroes, science fiction/fantasy/horror, comics for kids and
teens, and comics based on popular movies or bestsellers) are rarely
considered "alternative."  Alternative comic books treat subjects
unusual for comic books, or sometimes common subjects in unusual ways.
They're most often published in black and white, in much smaller
numbers, and by smaller presses.  They're normally owned by their
creators, and many times even published by them.  Comic books that you
could buy at a convenience store or a newstand are highly unlikely to
be considered alternative.

RFD:	Discussion will last 21 days.  If appropriate, a revised RFD 
----	will be posted after 14 days, reflecting suggestions and 
	opinions provided by the discussion.  After 21 days, or a
period of days suggested by the moderator of the group
news.announce.newgroups, or after an extension of 7 days, a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be issued.  

Distribution:	This RFD is being cross-posted to the following groups:
-------------

The moderated news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, the moderated
rec.arts.comics.info, rec.arts.comics.misc, alt.comics.alternative,
rec.arts.comics.x-books, rec.arts.comics.strips,
rec.arts.comics.marketplace, rec.arts.comics.creative, alt.comics.lnh,
alt.comics.superman, alt.comics.batman, alt.comics.elfquest,
alt.fan.albedo, alt.fan.bugtown, alt.fan.furry,
alt.fan.tank-girl, alt.punk, alt.zines, rec.arts.books,
alt.soc.generation-x, alt.postmodern.

It will also be sent to the Comix mailing list ([email protected]),
the cerebus mailing list ([email protected]), the 2000AD
mailing list ([email protected]), the Bone mailing list
([email protected]), the Poison Elves mailing list
([email protected]), the Elfquest mailing list
([email protected]), and the Small Press mailing list
([email protected]).

	All follow-ups go to news.groups.  Please direct e-mail
correspondence to [email protected], who will forward it to
all the authors listed below.  Please relay this proposal to anyone
you feel may be interested.

written by: Bart Beaty, Glenn Carnagey, Michael Chary, Jim Drew,
Ennead, Lazlo Nibble, Tonio Roque, Francis Uy, and Todd VerBeek
-- 
		 Glenn Carnagey, Data Systems Manager
		   Center for Population Economics
	      1101 E. 58th St., Chicago, IL, 60637-1511
       EMAIL: [email protected], [email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Nov 22 10:59:58 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Glenn Carnagey <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.info,alt.comics.elfquest,alt.fan.furry,alt.fan.tank-girl,alt.zines
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.arts.comics.alternative
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Date: 22 Nov 1994 10:46:16 -0500
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		   2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
		     rec.arts.comics.alternative

Changes to the 1st RFD for this group include:
	1) "non-superhero" was deleted from the "Purpose:" line
	2)  Several changes were made to the charter that involved making
		the descriptions of alternative comic books and
		mainstream comic books more explicit and somewhat
		more quantifiable, to wit:
	    - Delineation of the chief mainstream publishers
	    - Quantifier added to the term "smaller circulation"
	    - General structure of description of alternative comics
		changed
	3) Statement on what to do in case of confusion and the relationship
		of the new group to rec.arts.comics.misc added
	4) A few more minor language and punctuation changes to
		the charter in the interest of clarity
	5) Other sections remain intact and identical to corresponding
		sections in the 1st RFD

Purpose:	For the discussion of alternative (non-mainstream)
--------	comic books.

Status: 	Unmoderated.
------

Rationale:	The group rec.arts.comics.alternative is proposed to
----------	replace the group alt.comics.alternative due to the
		propogation problems of that group: many people would
like to read the group and cannot, but do have access to the rec
hierarchy.  The group rec.arts.comics.misc is heavy-traffic, and is
overwhelmingly dominated by the discussion of mainstream comic books
not ordinarily of interest to many readers of alternative comic books.
In addition, creation of rec.arts.comics.alternative would
considerably boost the visibility of the discussion of alternative
comic books.

Charter:	The purpose of rec.arts.comics.alternative is to
--------	provide a forum for the discussion of alternative
		comic books, which follow in the footsteps of the
1960s' underground comics in that they defy the common perceptions
that all comics are for children and that almost all feature
four-color superheroes.  Comics which easily fall into genres
well-represented by the comic book industry's mainstream (such as
superheroes, science fiction/fantasy/horror, comics for kids and
teens, and comics based on popular movies or bestsellers) are not
considered "alternative" unless they fit the following description of
alternative comic books:
	In contrast to over 80% of comic books today, they are not
published by the chief imprint of the biggest mainstream companies
(DC, Marvel, Image, Valiant, Archie and Disney); comic books that you
could buy at a convenience store or a newsstand would not be
considered alternative.	Alternative comic books focus on subjects not
typically found in comic books or focus on typical subjects in
atypical and innovative ways.  These two qualities are essential.
They are additionally most often published in black and white, in
small circulations (roughly less than 10 of the index currently used
by the major distributors), and are published by the smaller
publishers (i.e. are not delineated above).  They are normally owned by
their creators and many times even published by them.  A majority of
these qualities should be present.
	If a comic doesn't obviously belong in any other group,
including rec.arts.comics.alternative, it should be discussed in the
RAC.misc group.  If you can't tell if a comic belongs in
RAC.alternative, then don't discuss it there; if you can tell, then
discuss away.

RFD:	Discussion will last 22 days from the time of the 1st RFD.
----    After 22 days, or a period of days suggested by the moderator
	of news.announce.newgroups, a Call For Votes (CFV) will be issued.

Distribution:	This RFD is being cross-posted to the following groups:
-------------

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, alt.comics.alternative,
rec.arts.comics.misc, rec.arts.comics.info, alt.comics.elfquest,
alt.fan.bugtown, alt.fan.furry, alt.fan.tank-girl, alt.zines

It will also be sent to the Comix mailing list ([email protected]),
the cerebus mailing list ([email protected]), the 2000AD
mailing list ([email protected]), the Bone mailing list
([email protected]), the Poison Elves mailing list
([email protected]), and the Small Press mailing list
([email protected]).

	All follow-ups go to news.groups.  Please direct e-mail
correspondence to [email protected], who will forward it to
all the authors listed below.  Please relay this proposal to anyone
you feel may be interested.

written by: Bart Beaty, Glenn Carnagey, Michael Chary, Jim Drew,
Ennead, Lazlo Nibble, Tonio Roque, Francis Uy, and Todd VerBeek
-- 
		 Glenn Carnagey, Data Systems Manager
		   Center for Population Economics
	      1101 E. 58th St., Chicago, IL, 60637-1511
       EMAIL: [email protected], [email protected]

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 15:36:12 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.info,alt.comics.elfquest,alt.fan.furry,alt.fan.tank-girl,alt.zines
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.comics.alternative
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.alternative

Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.alternative	alternative (non-mainstream) comic books.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists the Comix mailing list
<[email protected]>, COMICS-L Digest
<[email protected]>, the cerebus mailing list
<[email protected]>, the 2000AD mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Bone mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Otis mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Poison Elves mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Small Press mailing list
<[email protected]>.


This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Glenn Carnagey <[email protected]>


Charter:	The purpose of rec.arts.comics.alternative is to
--------	provide a forum for the discussion of alternative
		comic books, which follow in the footsteps of the
1960s' underground comics in that they defy the common perceptions
that all comics are for children and that almost all feature
four-color superheroes.  Comics which easily fall into genres
well-represented by the comic book industry's mainstream (such as
superheroes, science fiction/fantasy/horror, comics for kids and
teens, and comics based on popular movies or bestsellers) are not
considered "alternative" unless they fit the following description of
alternative comic books:
	In contrast to over 80% of comic books today, they are not
published by the chief imprint of the biggest mainstream companies
(DC, Marvel, Image, Valiant, Archie and Disney); comic books that you
could buy at a convenience store or a newsstand would not be
considered alternative.	Alternative comic books focus on subjects not
typically found in comic books or focus on typical subjects in
atypical and innovative ways.  These two qualities are essential.
They are additionally most often published in black and white, in
small circulations (roughly less than 10 of the index currently used
by the major distributors), and are published by the smaller
publishers (i.e. are not delineated above).  They are normally owned by
their creators and many times even published by them.  A majority of
these qualities should be present.
	If a comic doesn't obviously belong in any other group,
including rec.arts.comics.alternative, it should be discussed in the
RAC.misc group.  If you can't tell if a comic belongs in
RAC.alternative, then don't discuss it there; if you can tell, then
discuss away.


Rationale:	The group rec.arts.comics.alternative is proposed to
----------	replace the group alt.comics.alternative, due to the
		propogation problems of that group: many people would
like to read the group and cannot, but do have access to the rec
hierarchy.  The group rec.arts.comics.misc is heavy-traffic, and is
overwhelmingly dominated by the discussion of mainstream comic books
not ordinarily of interest to many readers of alternative comic books.
In addition, creation of rec.arts.comics.alternative would
considerably boost the visibility of the discussion of alternative
comic books.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on rec.arts.comics.alternative
      I vote NO on rec.arts.comics.alternative

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Dec 14 15:15:49 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.info,alt.comics.elfquest,alt.fan.furry,alt.fan.tank-girl,alt.zines
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.comics.alternative
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.alternative

Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.alternative     alternative (non-mainstream) comic books.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists the Comix mailing list
<[email protected]>, COMICS-L Digest
<[email protected]>, the cerebus mailing list
<[email protected]>, the 2000AD mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Bone mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Otis mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Poison Elves mailing list
<[email protected]>, the Small Press mailing list
<[email protected]>.


This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Glenn Carnagey <[email protected]>


Charter:        The purpose of rec.arts.comics.alternative is to
--------        provide a forum for the discussion of alternative
                comic books, which follow in the footsteps of the
1960s' underground comics in that they defy the common perceptions
that all comics are for children and that almost all feature
four-color superheroes.  Comics which easily fall into genres
well-represented by the comic book industry's mainstream (such as
superheroes, science fiction/fantasy/horror, comics for kids and
teens, and comics based on popular movies or bestsellers) are not
considered "alternative" unless they fit the following description of
alternative comic books:
        In contrast to over 80% of comic books today, they are not
published by the chief imprint of the biggest mainstream companies
(DC, Marvel, Image, Valiant, Archie and Disney); comic books that you
could buy at a convenience store or a newsstand would not be
considered alternative. Alternative comic books focus on subjects not
typically found in comic books or focus on typical subjects in
atypical and innovative ways.  These two qualities are essential.
They are additionally most often published in black and white, in
small circulations (roughly less than 10 of the index currently used
by the major distributors), and are published by the smaller
publishers (i.e. are not delineated above).  They are normally owned by
their creators and many times even published by them.  A majority of
these qualities should be present.
        If a comic doesn't obviously belong in any other group,
including rec.arts.comics.alternative, it should be discussed in the
RAC.misc group.  If you can't tell if a comic belongs in
RAC.alternative, then don't discuss it there; if you can tell, then
discuss away.


Rationale:      The group rec.arts.comics.alternative is proposed to
----------      replace the group alt.comics.alternative, due to the
                propogation problems of that group: many people would
like to read the group and cannot, but do have access to the rec
hierarchy.  The group rec.arts.comics.misc is heavy-traffic, and is
overwhelmingly dominated by the discussion of mainstream comic books
not ordinarily of interest to many readers of alternative comic books.
In addition, creation of rec.arts.comics.alternative would
considerably boost the visibility of the discussion of alternative
comic books.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on rec.arts.comics.alternative
      I vote NO on rec.arts.comics.alternative

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



rec.arts.comics.alternative Bounce List - No need to revote
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No bounced votes at this time

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Jan  5 14:28:58 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.info,alt.comics.elfquest,alt.fan.furry,alt.fan.tank-girl,alt.zines
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.comics.alternative passes 402:81
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                                    RESULT
     unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.alternative passes 402:81

There were 402 YES votes and 81 NO votes, for a total of 483 valid votes. 
There were 3 abstains.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.alternative     alternative (non-mainstream) comic books.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Glenn Carnagey <[email protected]>


Charter:        The purpose of rec.arts.comics.alternative is to
--------        provide a forum for the discussion of alternative
                comic books, which follow in the footsteps of the
1960s' underground comics in that they defy the common perceptions
that all comics are for children and that almost all feature
four-color superheroes.  Comics which easily fall into genres
well-represented by the comic book industry's mainstream (such as
superheroes, science fiction/fantasy/horror, comics for kids and
teens, and comics based on popular movies or bestsellers) are not
considered "alternative" unless they fit the following description of
alternative comic books:
        In contrast to over 80% of comic books today, they are not
published by the chief imprint of the biggest mainstream companies
(DC, Marvel, Image, Valiant, Archie and Disney); comic books that you
could buy at a convenience store or a newsstand would not be
considered alternative. Alternative comic books focus on subjects not
typically found in comic books or focus on typical subjects in
atypical and innovative ways.  These two qualities are essential.
They are additionally most often published in black and white, in
small circulations (roughly less than 10 of the index currently used
by the major distributors), and are published by the smaller
publishers (i.e. are not delineated above).  They are normally owned by
their creators and many times even published by them.  A majority of
these qualities should be present.
        If a comic doesn't obviously belong in any other group,
including rec.arts.comics.alternative, it should be discussed in the
RAC.misc group.  If you can't tell if a comic belongs in
RAC.alternative, then don't discuss it there; if you can tell, then
discuss away.


Rationale:      The group rec.arts.comics.alternative is proposed to
----------      replace the group alt.comics.alternative, due to the
                propogation problems of that group: many people would
like to read the group and cannot, but do have access to the rec
hierarchy.  The group rec.arts.comics.misc is heavy-traffic, and is
overwhelmingly dominated by the discussion of mainstream comic books
not ordinarily of interest to many readers of alternative comic books.
In addition, creation of rec.arts.comics.alternative would
considerably boost the visibility of the discussion of alternative
comic books.


rec.arts.comics.alternative Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                          Iain Adams
[email protected]                                         Steve Lieber
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                     Michael F. Rizzo
[email protected]                                 Oliver Postlethwaite
[email protected]                                           Peter Sfat
[email protected]                                        cato art ( bse ceng)
[email protected]                                Alejandros Diamandidis
[email protected]                                             AJAY TALLAM
[email protected]                                 Alan Brown
[email protected]                                       Iain D. Bowen
[email protected]                                                 Samuel Crider
[email protected]                                       Suenteus Po
[email protected]                                  Austin George Loomis
[email protected]                                           Sargasso
[email protected]                      Alain Tanguay - Sylvie Berube (depends...)
[email protected]                                                            Azizi
[email protected]                        Andreas Neubacher
[email protected]                                       Andrew Dilley
[email protected]                                Andrew W. Williams
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                      Glenn "Mr. X" Austin
[email protected]                                      Andrew David Weiland
[email protected]                                       Anthony John Bailey
[email protected]                                                 Jeremy York
[email protected]                                        Bruce Berger
[email protected]                Ben C. O. Grimm - Praesidium Libertatis NL -
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                        Iain A. Bertram
[email protected]                                    Robert J. Hartung
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                  Bill Field
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[email protected]                                                     David Smith
[email protected]                                          Niels Olof Bouvin
[email protected]                                Bram Buitendijk
[email protected]                                          Marcus N Brazil
[email protected]                                            SCOTT PAUL
[email protected]                                        Bruce Richman
[email protected]                                    Bruce Macintosh
[email protected]                                                   John Bullough
[email protected]                                Brent Veitch
[email protected]                                             Bebe Williams
[email protected]                                                   Byron C. Go
[email protected]                                   Christopher Gibbs
[email protected]                                                 
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                                 Kent Freeman
[email protected]                                            Bazza
[email protected]                            Horace 'The Eye' Buntley
[email protected]                                       Craig E Warsaw
[email protected]                                          Jen Doyle
[email protected]                                             Charles Haine
[email protected]                                         Jim Manchester
[email protected]                                              Chris Conway
[email protected]                                           Chris Hughes
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                             Heinrich Goetz
[email protected]                                           Chris Baird
[email protected]                             Christopher Jackson - Special Projects
[email protected]                                         Cory L. Scott
[email protected]                                       Chantinelle
[email protected]                                                    Enrique Conty
[email protected]                                                                 
[email protected]                    Cristina =?iso-8859-1?Q?Myreb=F8e?=
[email protected]                                        Greg Crockatt
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                             Keith Langdon
[email protected]                                   Comp_Svcs Temp Account
[email protected]                                                           
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                            Craig W Naples
[email protected]                                             Gary Kennedy
[email protected]                                                  Rebecca
[email protected]                                                Dave Bell
[email protected]                                           Dave Knott
[email protected]                                                Dave Sag
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[email protected]                                            Dr. Genesis
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[email protected]                                              Damir Prcic
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[email protected]                                         Eric Garbos N29675
[email protected]                                   Eivind Gladheim \streng
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[email protected]                                             Jonathan Cooper
[email protected]                                         Edward John Sabol
[email protected]                                        Erica Sherman
[email protected]                                   Joshua T. Duffin
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[email protected]                                       Dan Fain
[email protected]                                     Steve Soenksen
[email protected]                                fredrick b. chary
[email protected]                                                Elissa Feit
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[email protected]                                             Jerry Franke
[email protected]                                  francisco luis roque
[email protected]                                      Frits Daalmans
[email protected]                                                  Francis A Uy
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[email protected]                                          David Garrett
[email protected]                                                    Richard Gagnon
[email protected]                                                       Guus Bosch
[email protected]                                       EuGene epetai-Tramaglino
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[email protected]                                      Gerson V Koenig
[email protected]                                        Pat Gonzales
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[email protected]                                 Mike 'Hrivy' Friedman
[email protected]                                          Jon Hall (sar)
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[email protected]                                                  Ian Lance Taylor
[email protected]                                Bananananafofanna
[email protected]                                        Igor Goldkind
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[email protected]                                       Jeff Fabijanic
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[email protected]                                        John Abbe aka Rademir
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[email protected]                                  Geoffrey Robert Mason
[email protected]                                  Joel Isaac Singer
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[email protected]                                        Juan M. Triana
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[email protected]                                 James W. Bailey
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[email protected]                                  Dietrich J. Kappe
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[email protected]                                       Katie Schwarz
[email protected]                                              John Moravec
[email protected]                                           K. Lena Bennett
[email protected]                                      Robert M Keefe
[email protected]                                  Edward Harley
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[email protected]                                                     Ken Small
[email protected]                                         Kevin Schramer
[email protected]                                     Kevin Maguire
[email protected]                                    Konstantin Georgokitsos
[email protected]                                         Ian Alexander King
[email protected]                                                Kirby Krueger
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[email protected]                                    Kladopoulos Kostas
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[email protected]                                       Rob Knauerhase
[email protected]                                                       David Knott
koji%[email protected]                               G. Koji Sonoda
[email protected]                                                Kevin S. Lee
[email protected]                                               Casper Kvan Clausen
[email protected]                                              Lantz Rowland
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[email protected]                                      Lenara I. S. Verle
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[email protected]                                               Wendi Dunlap
[email protected]                                           Doctor Lizardo
[email protected]                                               Laurie Gerholz
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[email protected]                                       Arturo Magidin
[email protected]                                                  Marc Singer
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[email protected]                                Markus Torpvret
[email protected]                             Kellie Matthews-Simmons
[email protected]                                     Matt Downer
[email protected]                                             Richard Chandler
[email protected]                                         Michael Bauser
[email protected]                                  Dean McWhorter
[email protected]                               Michael Fragassi
[email protected]                                     Michael A. Gelman
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[email protected]                                        michael kelly
[email protected]                                               Mike Liechty
[email protected]                                              Matthew Maxwell
[email protected]                                                     Modemac
[email protected]                                              Greg Morrow
[email protected]                                        Matthew Swope
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[email protected]                                       Nevins Mark
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[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
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[email protected]                                                          nkatz
[email protected]                                              Marv
[email protected]                                                   Neal Menkus
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[email protected]                                        Norm Tyler x32287
[email protected]                                        Sarah Nowlin
[email protected]                                              Bill Nowlin
[email protected]                                      Nicholas Whyte
[email protected]                           Oliver Burnett-Hall
[email protected]                                            Olaf Laczak
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[email protected]                                   Francesca Pardo
[email protected]                                           Amit Parghi
[email protected]                                           Paul Olav Tvete
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[email protected]                              Piers Cawley -- System Admin
[email protected]                                      Peter Sullivan
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[email protected]                                       Rick Pikul
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                                     Edward Piou
[email protected]                                    Peter J. Kappesser
[email protected]                                     Philipp Jocham
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[email protected]                                     Rich Johnston
[email protected]                                                 Robert Hubby
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[email protected]                                         Randall James Paske
[email protected]                                 Ranjit Bhatnagar
[email protected]                                     The Rubber Buccaneer
[email protected]                                            Rodrigo Baeza(VP)
[email protected]                                            Richard Baron
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[email protected]                              Robert Fernandez (ENG)
[email protected]                                  ronald garcia
[email protected]                           Roeland H. van der Gaag
[email protected]                                               Richard R. Harms
[email protected]                                                     Dedalus
[email protected]                                         Rick Mctavish
[email protected]                                               Robert Kelly
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[email protected]                                         Rosalind Finney
[email protected]                                               Rod Shelton
[email protected]                                               Russ Allbery
[email protected]                           R. Scott Smith
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[email protected]                                            Sally A. Adler
[email protected]                                                 Sam Chard
[email protected]                                           Sapphyr
[email protected]                                     Sarah Villarico Liberman
[email protected]                                                 Adam
[email protected]                                       Stewart Brower
[email protected]                                   Mark Schlesinger
[email protected]                                                  Greg Schwartz
[email protected]                                   Scott E. Forschler
[email protected]                                          Scott Faulkner
[email protected]                                           Scott Milliken
[email protected]                                                Lance Boil
[email protected]                                        Derek R. Spencer
[email protected]                                            Alan Seager
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[email protected]                                        Wayne A. Wong
[email protected]                                   Johanna Draper
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[email protected]                                      Shannon K. Goecke
[email protected]                                       Henry Shahrouz
[email protected]                                 The Great Pumpkin
[email protected]                                               Dick Sidbury
[email protected]                                                 Bob Simpson
[email protected]                                              mike flugennock
[email protected]                                          Steven J. Bowen
[email protected]                                              Scott Harris
[email protected]                                                    Jim Murdoch
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[email protected]                                                Jason B Speck
[email protected]                              Spencer PriceNash
[email protected]                                              SSK7882
[email protected]                                         Per Starback
[email protected]                                     Noel S. McFerran
[email protected]                                             Stein Roervik
[email protected]                          BURA Steffen 40 24 27 59
STEVE%[email protected]                                     Steven C. Kuhlken
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[email protected]                      STEVENS  JENNIFER SUE SHERRELL
[email protected]                                        Andrew Salmond
[email protected]                           Far East - Strain, Matt
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[email protected]                                      G W Sutcliffe
[email protected]                                         ron
[email protected]                                  Greg McElhatton
[email protected]                                         Subrata Sircar
[email protected]                                           Steven Garman
[email protected]                                      BERTIN PEETERS
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[email protected]                                                Timothy Clarke
[email protected]                                                  Edward Floden
[email protected]                                    Mark Thompson
[email protected]                                              Thought Factory
[email protected]                                             Tim Brutton
[email protected]                                                Tim Tjarks
[email protected]                                      Tim Klassen
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[email protected]                                 Timothy Miller (EE)
[email protected]                                   Todd M Quinton
[email protected]                                            Tom R.Hageman
[email protected]                                           Tatsuya Murase
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[email protected]                                                   Antonio Roque
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[email protected]                                          umknauer
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[email protected]                                    Todd VerBeek, GWM
[email protected]                                            Matt
[email protected]                                     Gilberto Carlos Walker
[email protected]                                                 Harlan Wallach
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[email protected]                                             Wayne Bennett
[email protected]                                                    Warren Craig
[email protected]                                       Tom Wentzel
[email protected]                              Eugene Chuan-Huai Wei
[email protected]                                           Chris Wiberg
[email protected]                                 Windigo The Feral (NYAR!)
[email protected]                                               Bill Hay
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[email protected]                                         William Kaufman
[email protected]                                   Christopher M. Conway
[email protected]                                        Walter Scott
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[email protected]                                          Thomas E Wulf
[email protected]                                               Xopamondo
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[email protected]                               Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                             Yngvar Foelling
[email protected]                                     Bill Jennings

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[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                           Ed Bailey
[email protected]                                                 Dr. Perky
[email protected]                                             MechaPea-Boy
[email protected]                                      Jeremy Billones
[email protected]                                              Red Bird Slice
[email protected]                                                   Burt N Holzman
[email protected]                                                      Carl Fink
[email protected]                                         Carlo Mattoni
[email protected]                                        Craig Garnett
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
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[email protected]                                        Ray J Cornwall
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
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[email protected]                                             David
[email protected]                                                  David Kirby
[email protected]                                                Don Brinker
[email protected]                                         david hughes
[email protected]                                            Dave Thacker
[email protected]                             Dave Van Domelen
[email protected]                                                   
[email protected]                                             Christopher Estep
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                   Craig Burley
[email protected]                                           John Harrison Gregg
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                            Brian V. Hughes
[email protected]                                                       Matt Hucke
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                          Ian O'Brien
[email protected]                                                  Jamie Andrews
[email protected]                                    Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                              Jim Wong
[email protected]                                          Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)
[email protected]                                               The Spider
[email protected]                                             John Zmaczynski
[email protected]                                                 K. M. Bose
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                      lawanna j casto
[email protected]                                     Lance \"Squiddie\" Smith
[email protected]                                                 Marcus Breiing
[email protected]                                        R Mendez 40866
[email protected]                                            Mike Meyer
[email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb
[email protected]                                               Michael G. McKellar
[email protected]                                           Windsor Morgan
[email protected]                                   Marjorie R. Stamper
[email protected]                                               Michael S. Schiffer
[email protected]                                             Nathan Mehl
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[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                         Randy Jay Yarger
[email protected]                                    Andrew Raphael
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                The Mystic Mongoose
[email protected]                                                       
[email protected]                         SCAVENGER--The Next Generation
[email protected]                            Scowling Jim Cowling
[email protected]                                      timothy shimeall
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                            Steersy
[email protected]                                              Steve Mitchell
[email protected]                                                   Tony Basoglu
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                                        Papa Funk
[email protected]                                         Tom Galloway
[email protected]                                             David Wald
[email protected]                                                        Bill May
[email protected]                                          William Paul Hahn
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[email protected]                                                       zombie

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